And I thought it was bad in my days...

25 Aug 2004

More kids want help against bullies

A record number of youngsters are calling the Childline charity for advice because they are being bullied.
In the twelve months up until March, more than 31,000 children dialled up for help.
Around 2,300 children every day speak to one of the charity's trained volunteers about whatever is concerning them.
Bullying is the single biggest reason why youngsters contact the charity - accounting for one in four calls to the free, 24-hour helpline.
The enormous demand means that hundreds more youngsters each day are unable to get through and hear a message asking them to call again later.
ChildLine is looking to raise funds to deal with the extra demand for its services

This is part of a page on bullying 2004. It also says the kids get text messages from the people involved with threats and the likes. I think it is terrible, and I think the mobile phones should come with some policing service to cut off the persistant offenders like they do on the normal phones. If you can PROOVE them to be guilty, then end the sim card...drastic but gets them off the threats...
I hate people who bully kids because we ALL know they are always more than three involved, and make life hell, but one to one is rare because they need back-up. My resolve was to catch the ringleader alone and paste seven bels of crap out of him...but I guess it is not really legal now? Pity...

25 Aug 2004

Some mobile phones can block certain callers, but they're the more expensive types that most people can't afford for their kids.
I was bullied as a child and as an adult. It's horrible. sad

I don't know what the answer is but from talking to people I know whose kids have been bullied, it seems most school's bullying policy is crap, basically. More bullied kids are taken out of schools than the bullying kids. mad

26 Aug 2004

It just seems to be the modern society. I cant remember it being vindictive in my time, because we all had the same stuff, so not because you did not fit the latest trend. In fact it was pure one to one spite often, and I just feel that maybe schools are becoming concious of the law too much in logging of the problem. I know teachers have a hell of a problem with them in classes, but I do feel genuinely sorry, when I see some child kill itself because of some asshole who bullies them. I just hope that in later life they too suffer, I know many dont, but the few that do get karma.

26 Aug 2004

26 Aug 2004

You are quite right about the schools, and often it is the parents problem in their lack of discipline. How many gobby 10 year olds do you see on the streets these days? they have no respect in gangs, and I know not all the same, but the know what can be done to stop them and what they can get away with.
Kids I think are more cruel, adults are just bad. I used to have it bad till I discovered sarcasm. Not many tackle me now, and I go for the ones who pick on the weaker ones at work, because as a child I had every name you can be called in my face, and not much ever upsets me now...apart from cruelty to animals which always results in my bad side.

26 Aug 2004

i was bullied from my first day at primary school all the way through till i left secondary in 1985 by the same four boys who lived in the little village i lived in.
all through the school bullying the teachers just told me to stick up for myself(against 4 boys)and i was made to feel a GRASS by teachers and pupils alike.
outside of school even though i recived some quite serious injurys the police and local authorites told me to stand up for myself.
these lads bullied me all through my adult life( i had no confidence or self respect by this time) untill i moved away.
i took up martial arts bout 6years ago,even though i have a 1st degree black belt in ju-jitsu and am a very good kickboxer in some situations those old feelings come back to haunt me,at least i know deep down if anyone starts on me, i will be the only one left standing. mad

things are slowly getting better but at the pub i work at i get colleauges asking me to teach there kids kickboxing because they fear there getting bullied.
i have a 2yr old son(well 2 on oct 5th)and i am alredy teaching him how to DEFEND himself,he knows how to kick and punch and he will also learn NOT to be a bully i will make dam sure of that.
the schools and authorities can only do so much,its the parents that need educating. :!: :!:

26 Aug 2004

That is the way I am going too. It becomes a problem if the kids only learn the arts to be tougher. I think learning kids the disciplines are the way. It is also about confidence in knowing how to tackle a situation that counts. maybe it is society as it is now that is to blame, with the I can buy it now life many lead, and we dont spend enough time with our kids, to know them as little adults, and so we never know what troubles them before it is a bit late? Most kids loose interest when they find most martial arts are actually about NOT fighting, than belting someone senseless! I dont do martial arts bye the way, but I know a few who do, all have been bullied and the best ones are those who get away from the trouble and only use it in the last instance. I think your past experiences make you the IDEAL teacher, and i would say go for it because it needs to be taught properly not for aggression but to be their if needed.

26 Aug 2004

yin yang, you have chosen an interesting topic for a thread and which is a good topic to debate on.
I do think and this is purely my opinion ................ rolleyes

That there is something missing in a bullies life, that makes them act in this way. Parenthood is not the same anymore and the family unit has all but gone, respect and values have gone to the wayside for some young adults, and small children as well.
My daughter was bullied and the mother didn't want to know, which is sadly the case in most cases.
I have always brought my children up to respect and think of others feelings before deciding to act on ill feelings. Sometimes it doesn't always work, but for the most part they don't like bullies or to here of anyone being bullied.
Fighters they are not , but I think that families and society needs to set boundaries for these young adults and children, as it has all gone to pot. rolleyes

I hope this has come out right and I haven't offended anybody in what I have written.

26 Aug 2004

By no means has it come out right. I think family is the key word here. If your kids cant talk to you, have fun with you, accept punishment when it is due, accept praise when it is due and feel both love, respect to THEM, a family feeling and the likes, then they learn form those who surrond them and make them family. It often becomes other bad people and it is how they start. If people comment on how pleasant and thoughtful YOUR kids are, you should feel proud, and make them feel it too with an extra treat, because that is a just reward...
GOOD on you... wink

26 Aug 2004

P.S

I'm not sticking up for them..... confused

as I'm no softy.... where bullying and bad manners and rudeness are concerned....just an observation confused

26 Aug 2004

MrsFC! as a non-parent, but as someone who does the parental role thing most weekends, i have to agree with you, and think what you said came out entirely right.
i live in the kind of place where being "hard" and "dominant", even at the expense of others, is valued far more than being "intelligent" "respectful" "empathetic" "accepting" and any other qualities we'd like to see more of! can only say i've had my fair share of it. not a good place to be, and as Satin says, it destroys lives! literally! i saw a beautiful 14 year friend of mine O/D because of it!
as for mobile phone bullying . . . am i right in thinking the blue tooth phones there's a craze for allow anonymous messages to be sent to a nearby phone? can see a problem there if our kids have got 'em?

and from a completely opposite direction . . . i have seen an old school friend beaten to death because he was brought up to value the qualities that made him a bully in other peoples eyes . . . final thoughts . . . .
neil x x x ;-)

26 Aug 2004

I completely agree with MrsFc there,
Steves son was bullied at school,in the end it took hin tripping the kid up when he was running past him for the bullying to stop..
I think that ultimately it is the parents responsibilty,and that yes,quite often in these situations the bully themselves has serious personal issues,be they child or adult!
Also sometimes the child that was bullied grows up to be the one bullying.
It is an awful situation and i think that awareness in schools definately needs to be improved upon,on occasion the parents arent at fault,and the school needs to do as much as possible..

26 Aug 2004

Anyone personally effected or just interested might like to take a look at this site -
Venusxxx