APOLLO 11

20 Jul 2009

Today, on the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, I was amazed to learn that just 8 years after the event, the command module pilot Michael Collins was working as a salesman in a car showroom!
Neil Armstrong is now a virtual recluse, Buzz Aldrin revels in the fame, while Collins, who was basically their ticket home is all but forgotten. So here's my "big up" for Michael Collins, the forgotten crew member of Apollo 11.

20 Jul 2009

To be honest I only really think of Aldrin and Armstrong when thinking of the Lunar landings. It is a shame however that the impetous for spece exploration through manned vehicles sort of petered out after Apollo 17 coming into the mid seventies.
Wouldn't it be great to see all the nations interested in space come together as one and maybe then we could afford to explore more and develope new combined ideas. Lets face it this world is small we need answers to questions about our future.
I know that people will say things such as "before Space lets save our own planet and people" I don't believe thats realistic but I do believe they should both be invested in.

20 Jul 2009

I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

20 Jul 2009

Quote by GnV
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

They definately went to the moon, Daddy Clanger said so! :rascal:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

20 Jul 2009

pmsl :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:

20 Jul 2009

Quote by GnV
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm with you on this one xx

20 Jul 2009

Quote by Funlovers2009
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm with you on this one xx
The new super high resolution photos coming back from the moon explorer show the lander, equipment left behind and their footprints on the lunar surface.

20 Jul 2009

Quote by Funlovers2009
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm with you on this one xx
I think the Russians would have spilled the beans long before now, not to mention the large number of people involved in Mission Control. wink

20 Jul 2009

Quote by Max777
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm with you on this one xx
I think the Russians would have spilled the beans long before now, not to mention the large number of people involved in Mission Control. wink

They didn't know anything different.. they honestly believed they were talking to men on the moon :wink:

20 Jul 2009

Quote by Rogue_trader
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm with you on this one xx
The new super high resolution photos coming back from the moon explorer show the lander, equipment left behind and their footprints on the lunar surface.
Have you ever seen some of the cams on SH? They could just as easily be streamed porno vids. :lol2:

20 Jul 2009

I don't believe they put a man on the moon.

20 Jul 2009

i dont believe it either ..i reckon all the crap that can still be seen up there was delivered by our postman and he aint human!

20 Jul 2009

Quote by Lost

I know that people will say things such as "before Space lets save our own planet and people" I don't believe thats realistic but I do believe they should both be invested in.

I would hazard a guess that without the satellites and other things that view our world from space we wouldn't actually know just how much we are kicking the s**t out of our poor planet !!

20 Jul 2009

The sixties was a decade full of conspiracy theories, JFK, Marylyn Monroe etc..
The Film " Capricorn 1" offers a pretty good version of a fake lunar landing.

20 Jul 2009

OOOOh don't get me started on this subject! bolt

20 Jul 2009

Buzz reveling in the fame is a polite way of saying he has battled with depression and alcoholism since that voyage. . possibly struggling to deal with the fact it was all a hoax. . I wonder?
confused

20 Jul 2009

Quote by GnV
Have you ever seen some of the cams on SH? They could just as easily be streamed porno vids. :lol2:

surely not... lol

21 Jul 2009

Conspiracy theory

21 Jul 2009

Quote by GnV
I'm with the conspirator theorists on this one...
Did they actually go to the moon or was it just a big hoax.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Is Elvis really dead? Has Jackson just done a bunk to escape his debts?
Is Tony Blair a Martian? More answers than questions there. wink

21 Jul 2009

Quote by GnV
Conspiracy theory here

And unusually for wikipedia, there's thorough and factually accurate debunking of pretty much all of the claims of the conspiracy theorists available all over the place:

More in depth information here:
The manned Apollo landings most definitely happened. ;)
Neil x x x ;)

21 Jul 2009

Don't forget neil that wikky is not written by experts but by all and sundry contributors without any shred of evidence to back up their theories in a format that purports to be as official as the Britannica Encyclopaedia is. wink

Quote by neilinleeds
The manned Apollo landings most definitely happened.

They most certainly happened.. in the Nevada Desert or MGM studios somewhere.. :grin:

21 Jul 2009

Oh I know GnV. If wikipedia told me it was raining I'd still check to make sure it weren't just someone pissing up me back! lol

;) They do cover most of the ground though, and for those who are interested they're a good starting point for more reading. Most of the 'evidence' put forward by conspiracy theorists is about as credible as the idea that the moon is made of green cheese when compared to proper rational explanations for all these so-called 'anomalies'. It's nonsense. ;)
N x x x ;)

21 Jul 2009

I dont know any theroies, I just think back to the 60s when nobody i knew had a telephone and wonder where this technology came from. And then I wonder why we never went back.

21 Jul 2009

Quote by neilinleeds
Oh I know GnV. If wikipedia told me it was raining I'd still check to make sure it weren't just someone pissing up me back! ;) They do cover most of the ground though, and for those who are interested they're a good starting point for more reading. Most of the 'evidence' put forward by conspiracy theorists is about as credible as the idea that the moon is made of green cheese when compared to proper rational explanations for all these so-called 'anomalies'. It's nonsense. ;)
N x x x ;)

What!!!!
You mean its not made of green cheese :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
* Makes mental note to contribute to wikky, attributed to neil, confirming that the moon is not made of green cheese *
:lol2:

21 Jul 2009

Quote by benrums0n
I dont know any theroies, I just think back to the 60s when nobody i knew had a telephone and wonder where this technology came from. And then I wonder why we never went back.

We did go back, I believe there were 6 manned Apollo missions that landed on the moon. There were computers back in the 60s.....albeit bloody huge things with less computing power than your average desk top ....but computers neverless.
The Soviets actually landed an unmanned craft on the moon in 1959, so it took a further 10 years to land a manned mission.

21 Jul 2009

I think was the device they used
or was it this one...

It must be right as IBM were using until the mid 1970's wink

21 Jul 2009

Fair point max but 40 years is a long time isnt it. Aeroplanes went from the Wright brothers to the Meteor in that time.
An another concern how did they get that shot of earth with the engine falling away when telstar for example could only transmit pictures of very very poor quality.

21 Jul 2009

Quote by benrums0n
Fair point max but 40 years is a long time isnt it. Aeroplanes went from the Wright brothers to the Meteor in that time.
An another concern how did they get that shot of earth with the engine falling away when telstar for example could only transmit pictures of very very poor quality.

You have to remember that it was a race between the two sueperpowers to be the first to land a man on the moon. Once the Americans had succeeded, the Russians lost interest and cancelled their moon programme. As for the USA, the race had been won and I believe the money dried up.
Telstar was several years before Apollo 11 ( the record by the Tornadoes was one of my earliest favourites smile

) and I'm sure the quality of the camera transmissions improved over that time.
Do you honestly believe that the Russians ( and other nations) were not monitoring the Appolo programme from start to finish? Had they have had any doubts whatsoever, they would have been the first to ask questions.

21 Jul 2009

Well ma given the crippling cost of space program to the soviet economy it was probably in their best interests to fake a loss perhaps?

21 Jul 2009

Quote by Max777
Fair point max but 40 years is a long time isnt it. Aeroplanes went from the Wright brothers to the Meteor in that time.
An another concern how did they get that shot of earth with the engine falling away when telstar for example could only transmit pictures of very very poor quality.

You have to remember that it was a race between the two sueperpowers to be the first to land a man on the moon. Once the Americans had succeeded, the Russians lost interest and cancelled their moon programme. As for the USA, the race had been won and I believe the money dried up.
Exactly this. Apollo was always as political as it was technological, in the context of the cold war, the arms race, the perceived US v USSR missile gap and alleged Russian superiority in heavy ICBMs, national prestige given Russian successes, yadda yadda ya. There was a political imperative to suceed and demonstrate US technological superiority at almost any cost. That imperative, and the funding that goes with it, no longer exist.
There's been little need to go back, because the moon is pretty much a dead end now. The investment needed to get us back there is simply too high given the likely return on that investment. We won't learn much that we can't learn quicker and cheaper with unmanned missions, and the money that would have gone on lunar missions has I'm sure been much better spent on things like Hubble, unmanned missions to the outer planets, etc, etc, etc.
N x x x smile