Apostrophes!

8 Feb 2007

Bugger!!

:x :x
I can't believe that I had a free evening last night and decided to go to bed early instead of logging on - and missed a whole thread on apostrophes and punctuation! banghead

To make matters worse, I just typed a long pot and pressed 'submit' only to find that my login had timed out (told you it was long! redface

). Looks like you've all had a lucky escape! lol

Will

8 Feb 2007

Quote by felixx1416
Acutually i have not found this thread funny in fact i have found it very insulting, i am so self concious about my spelling grammer and punctuation that it takes me ages to write something, times i have been and some time still do burst in to tears because even though i can speak english not matter how much i try in never seems to come out in written word the same as i think it and i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life and this thread has really knock so much of confidece with posting in this forum some of us do not have a choice when it comes to grammer or punctuation i am now feeling that people are still laughing at me behind my back at my appaling grammer etc
This is me this is how i write this is my personality this is part of me being a whole person i cant write very well big deal it dosent stop me being a person with feeling i would give my right arm to be able to spell etc

:thumbup: Well said Felix, I had mentioned this earlier on, this is a site for fun, debates (heated or otherwise) chit chat and horny play not an english lesson!

8 Feb 2007

Quote by jaymar
Acutually i have not found this thread funny in fact i have found it very insulting, i am so self concious about my spelling grammer and punctuation that it takes me ages to write something, times i have been and some time still do burst in to tears because even though i can speak english not matter how much i try in never seems to come out in written word the same as i think it and i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life and this thread has really knock so much of confidece with posting in this forum some of us do not have a choice when it comes to grammer or punctuation i am now feeling that people are still laughing at me behind my back at my appaling grammer etc
This is me this is how i write this is my personality this is part of me being a whole person i cant write very well big deal it dosent stop me being a person with feeling i would give my right arm to be able to spell etc

:thumbup: Well said Felix, I had mentioned this earlier on, this is a site for fun, debates (heated or otherwise) chit chat and horny play not an english lesson!
On the whole I agree.
But The thread started with a comment about someone calling others 'morrons' without spelling it right. This I think is worthy of comment.

8 Feb 2007

Quote by keeno
Acutually i have not found this thread funny in fact i have found it very insulting, i am so self concious about my spelling grammer and punctuation that it takes me ages to write something, times i have been and some time still do burst in to tears because even though i can speak english not matter how much i try in never seems to come out in written word the same as i think it and i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life and this thread has really knock so much of confidece with posting in this forum some of us do not have a choice when it comes to grammer or punctuation i am now feeling that people are still laughing at me behind my back at my appaling grammer etc
This is me this is how i write this is my personality this is part of me being a whole person i cant write very well big deal it dosent stop me being a person with feeling i would give my right arm to be able to spell etc

:thumbup: Well said Felix, I had mentioned this earlier on, this is a site for fun, debates (heated or otherwise) chit chat and horny play not an english lesson!
On the whole I agree.
But The thread started with a comment about someone calling others 'morrons' without spelling it right. This I think is worthy of comment.
Certainly agree, did you see my posting in reply earlier on in the thread? smile

8 Feb 2007

Quote by jaymar
Acutually i have not found this thread funny in fact i have found it very insulting, i am so self concious about my spelling grammer and punctuation that it takes me ages to write something, times i have been and some time still do burst in to tears because even though i can speak english not matter how much i try in never seems to come out in written word the same as i think it and i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life and this thread has really knock so much of confidece with posting in this forum some of us do not have a choice when it comes to grammer or punctuation i am now feeling that people are still laughing at me behind my back at my appaling grammer etc
This is me this is how i write this is my personality this is part of me being a whole person i cant write very well big deal it dosent stop me being a person with feeling i would give my right arm to be able to spell etc

:thumbup: Well said Felix, I had mentioned this earlier on, this is a site for fun, debates (heated or otherwise) chit chat and horny play not an english lesson!
On the whole I agree.
But The thread started with a comment about someone calling others 'morrons' without spelling it right. This I think is worthy of comment.
Certainly agree, did you see my posting in reply earlier on in the thread? smile

If I'm going to be insulted I like it to be done properly biggrin

8 Feb 2007

Quote by keeno
Acutually i have not found this thread funny in fact i have found it very insulting, i am so self concious about my spelling grammer and punctuation that it takes me ages to write something, times i have been and some time still do burst in to tears because even though i can speak english not matter how much i try in never seems to come out in written word the same as i think it and i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life and this thread has really knock so much of confidece with posting in this forum some of us do not have a choice when it comes to grammer or punctuation i am now feeling that people are still laughing at me behind my back at my appaling grammer etc
This is me this is how i write this is my personality this is part of me being a whole person i cant write very well big deal it dosent stop me being a person with feeling i would give my right arm to be able to spell etc

:thumbup: Well said Felix, I had mentioned this earlier on, this is a site for fun, debates (heated or otherwise) chit chat and horny play not an english lesson!
On the whole I agree.
But The thread started with a comment about someone calling others 'morrons' without spelling it right. This I think is worthy of comment.
Certainly agree, did you see my posting in reply earlier on in the thread? smile

If I'm going to be insulted I like it to be done properly biggrin

:violin:

8 Feb 2007

Felixx,
In that case, quite clearly, the opening post of mine was not directed at you. You should not have seen yourself in anything I said.
Richard

8 Feb 2007

Couldn't fucking care less Richard.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Stones. Greenhouses. Throw.

You couldn't? You're doing a good job of pretending that you do. If the last sentence refers to me, what precisely are you talking about? I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on this, especially if they are as well-considered and expressed as the ones above.
Richard

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Screwtape
But does that kind of thing bother you as much as it does me? I think it's the willful ignorance that irritates me so. There really is no excuse these days. We all write emails and posts and whatever else pretty much every day. We all make typos and genuine mistakes but to me peppering your correspondence with child-like errors is just laziness and lacking in respect for the person doing the reading.

It doesn't bother me as much as people that find fault in other's writing. I have yet to find a post that I cannot read. Sometimes it does take more than one reading, but I, as a reader, am not lazy and am prepared to put in a little effort. I am also willing to give the writer respect by not drawing attention to their mistakes. Personally, I find the complaints about unreadable writing more a reflection on the poor skills of the reader than the writer.
If we do not criticise regional accents and dialogue that often make conversation difficult in spoken English, why is it necessary to find fault in variations of written English. Those erudite members who criticise others writing should be grateful that their education has allowed them to be so ‘correct’ in their penmanship.
On a swinger’s site, does it really matter if the writing does not reach English Language A level standard but merely reflects the writing abilities of the population at large? Surprisingly, we have never been asked to do a written exam before playing, neither have we checked anyone else’s handwriting. rolleyes

8 Feb 2007

Quote by felixx1416
... i am sick to death of people say about being lazy i'm not lazy i have work bloody hard to get where i am in life ...

You may not be lazy, some people are though.

8 Feb 2007

Quote by northwest-cpl
On a swinger’s site, does it really matter if the writing does not reach English Language A level standard but merely reflects the writing abilities of the population at large? Surprisingly, we have never been asked to do a written exam before playing, neither have we checked anyone else’s handwriting.

Does it matter?
It seems to matter when someone sends winks - that are viewed as lazy by many people.
It seems to matter when someone sends a one-liner PM in reply to an ad.
It seems to matter when people use text speak.
So in some cases it does seem to matter to some people.
Is it OK for it to matter in those cases, but not for it to matter in others?
Isn't it just another case of personal choice and preference?

8 Feb 2007

I am

when it comes to writing at least... on an informal forum such as this.
Posting on a *spur of the moment* basis mainly... and feeling that my >admitted< poor spelling, punctuation etc is evident...
but hey!... we're here for fun are we not?
lp >styg to be<

8 Feb 2007

I am also willing to give the writer respect by not drawing attention to their mistakes.

This really is getting beyond a joke. I criticised ONLY the guy who referred to others as morons while not spelling it correctly. I criticised NO ONE else for their writing ability. NO ONE! It seems many took what I said personally but I cannot help that and it was certainly not intended.
I made it clear in my initial posts that we all make mistakes and commit typos. Why, oh why is everyone persisting in this idea that I am criticising people for their mistakes when I said in first place I was doing no such thing?
I criticised only the laziness that expects others to sift through their writing on their behalf for some semblance of meaning.
I have no idea why this is so difficult to understand. I would not mind quite so much but in misrepresenting my initial post Felixx ends up upset over something that was never actually said in the first place and that I regret.
I wish people would just read what I said. Instead we get false assumptions and then other members picking them up and following them like sheep. Corrections get totally disregarded and when I point that out I get sworn at. Slanging matches I was never involved in get invented and best of all is the claim that tolerance is the big thing here but then someone expressing an honest opinion and explaining it while not mentioning any individual is shown anything but tolerance for doing so.
This is too ridiculous for any more words on the subject. I have said everything, more than once, and I cannot possibly make it any clearer. Read into what I said whatever you want. Make it up! Put words into my mouth. Have a ball.
Richard

8 Feb 2007

its an odd thing, but my writing has never been blob on when it comes to the finer points of sticking the bits n bobs in, yet I've never been pulled up in the three years that I've been bashing keys on here, could it be that I stick in enough to pass muster? am I 'old school' enough to get away with it? don't really know why I can get away with it and others get tugged dunno

I don't knock them that like it right and point it out, so I'm not falling in any camp here, just blatting away so to speak.
For the most part I don't take a blind bit of notice whether or not this squiggle or that squiggle is in the right place or even missing altogether, I'm another one who has never seen a post I can't read and decipher and in all honesty, for me, if they were all spot on it would take a bit away from posts.
When I write I try and write in the same way that I speak, I'm trying to speak to folk on here with me posting (see me posting ain't right but its what I said in my head as I typed) now I can't get across my nicely clipped middle class accent, but I do think I can probably get a bit more of me across if I duck around the rights and wrongs and try and type it as if I were saying it.
Am I making any sense or is it just bollocks and if anyone else raised the same point, sorry I haven't been back and read everything.

8 Feb 2007

don't really know why I can get away with it and others get tugged

No one got 'tugged'. No one. Well, except the guy who called other people morons. I still think he deserved it.
Richard

8 Feb 2007

when all's said and done Screwie, it's made a rather interesting thread, innit?
stygie>lp<

8 Feb 2007

Screwtape - this is classic 'let's jump on the band waggon, stone the new person and follow like the sheep that we are' type stuff. Ignore it and them, you've really done nothing wrong as far as I can see - the 'sheep' have created the issue here and not you. The 'sheep' will all have a new bandwaggon to jump on soon and will no doubt contradict what they have written here.
Just my opinion.

8 Feb 2007

LondonPlaything,
You may find it interesting! I prefer to be disagreed with for something I actually said or thought. ;)
Richard

8 Feb 2007

I do hope this 'forumgate' resolves itself before the snow melts down here. rolleyes

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Liaisons
I do hope this 'forumgate' resolves itself before the snow melts down here.

Why? :roll:

8 Feb 2007

Quote by davej
Am I making any sense or is it just bollocks and if anyone else raised the same point, sorry I haven't been back and read everything.

makes ''... sensense here davej, I type as I think too.... though am obviously hindered by a chaotic/sporadic thinking process.... plus an apparent poor link twixt thunk & thumped
lp>styg<

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Screwtape
don't really know why I can get away with it and others get tugged

No one got 'tugged'. No one. Well, except the guy who called other people morons. I still think he deserved it.
Richard
Like I said Mr Screw I didn't read all of this thread, I was making general comment over what I've seen over time, if this thread was more specific then I guess my post don't fit, taint no great shakes.

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Bloke2005
Screwtape - this is classic 'let's jump on the band waggon, stone the new person and follow like the sheep that we are' type stuff. Ignore it and them, you've really done nothing wrong as far as I can see - the 'sheep' have created the issue here and not you. The 'sheep' will all have a new bandwaggon to jump on soon and will no doubt contradict what they have written here.
Just my opinion.

Guess this confirms it, the thread is more specific and my general comments outa place.....anyone know where there's a mod who can edit me.

8 Feb 2007

You know, it has occurred to me that this has bugger all to do with grammar or what I did/didn't say. I am not even going to get into what I think it really is about. But the idea that it is I who is doing the judging here is laughable.
Richard

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Screwtape
You know, it has occurred to me that this has bugger all to do with grammar or what I did/didn't say. I am not even going to get into what I think it really is about. But the idea that it is I who is doing the judging here is laughable.
Richard

Bingo :thumbup:

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Kiss
I do hope this 'forumgate' resolves itself before the snow melts down here.

Why? :roll:
Kiss its not going anywhere IMO.
BTW please bring back you dress and shoulders avitar

8 Feb 2007

Quote by Liaisons
I do hope this 'forumgate' resolves itself before the snow melts down here.

Why? :roll:
Kiss its not going anywhere IMO.
BTW please bring back you dress and shoulders avitar
It will stop when they are sure that he is dead.... I can see the vultures hovering now :roll:

8 Feb 2007

It will stop when they are sure that he is dead.... I can see the vultures hovering now

I'll play dead if it keeps the peace. (Face down, for you.)
Richard

8 Feb 2007

Quote by davej
its an odd thing, but my writing has never been blob on when it comes to the finer points of sticking the bits n bobs in, yet I've never been pulled up in the three years that I've been bashing keys on here, could it be that I stick in enough to pass muster? am I 'old school' enough to get away with it? don't really know why I can get away with it and others get tugged
I don't knock them that like it right and point it out, so I'm not falling in any camp here, just blatting away so to speak.
For the most part I don't take a blind bit of notice whether or not this squiggle or that squiggle is in the right place or even missing altogether, I'm another one who has never seen a post I can't read and decipher and in all honesty, for me, if they were all spot on it would take a bit away from posts.
When I write I try and write in the same way that I speak, I'm trying to speak to folk on here with me posting (see me posting ain't right but its what I said in my head as I typed) now I can't get across my nicely clipped middle class accent, but I do think I can probably get a bit more of me across if I duck around the rights and wrongs and try and type it as if I were saying it.
Am I making any sense or is it just bollocks and if anyone else raised the same point, sorry I haven't been back and read everything.

Trust Dave to come in with a very valid point out of the blue. wave

A lot of people type on here exactly as they speak and that helps something of their personality come across and, as Dave says, puts some variety into the forum.
I make no apology for being pedantic in my language (both written and spoken) as it is part of who I am. However, I don't necessarily expect others to be as precise. Pete_sw posted on this thread and mentioned his own shortcomings. I have swapped many PMs and posts with Pete and spent several hours with him in MSN and I can't say that I have ever really noticed many grammatical or spelling errors. From what he says they were probably there, but because he has always been able to get his meaning across perfectly clearly they haven't really mattered.
I HAVE flamed people on here for their language in the past. However, that was invariably because they were behaving like twats and irritating the forum in general by their behaviour (and NOT just their spelling/punctuation/grammar). Genuine members who are joining in the spirit of the place but making some mistakes will never get any grief from me.
I DO think that calling someone a 'moron' - and then spelling it incorrectly is ironic, and I think THAT was the point of Screwtape's thread.
Will

8 Feb 2007

I'm sure it'll die if I keep posting in here...
(thread killer extraordinaire)... haven't paid full attention to the thread, but what I've seen has raised eyebrows a tad on the thoughts/importance placed on grammar etc...
seems also there are two or more aspects to the thread... I'm nt getting into that, and certainly not criticising anyone for owt... just stepping in late in the day and making a fool of myself no doubt.
so... have I killed it yet?.. I could be doing a service...hehe
lp>styg<