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Are bi-men welcome in swing clubs?

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A friend of mine has just told me that bi-guys don't seem to be welcome in swinging clubs - I was a bit surprised at that, because I thought that swingers were usually quite enlightened people and generally tolerant to most sexualities and kinks.
Now, not being bi, and not frequenting clubs I had no idea about this. I'd be quite surprised if it were true.
Has anyone got any experience of any prejudice against bi-guys at clubs, or is my friend talking out of her posterior?
Everyone's bi. We just pretend to be hetero or gay to get into the right clubs.
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Everyone's bi. We just pretend to be hetero or gay to get into the right clubs.

That may well be so biggrin
...but I'm asking if there's any prejudice or 'dislike' of bi-guys at swinging clubs...
(Duncan: Love your sig quote by the way - I use that quite a lot myself... lol )
There's the usual prejudice from people who don't know you. Then when you convince them you are going about things genuinely they lose their prejudice. There are still some people who can't quite conceive it all and it causes problems for them. Inevitably they may well try taking out their frustrations on bi's or whoever. Also most bi's are more discreet and less obvious than say camp, or openly gay peeps.
phil, generally speaking, while you're right you'd expect people to be more open minded, no, it's kind of not done.
some clubs have bi-nights specifically, others are a bit more bi-friendly, but again, generally speaking, bi activity isn't done out in the open quite as much as you'd expect. closed doors!
bi-females are MORE than welcome, but i think a bi-guy is somehow a bit threatening to some? not like we're gonna jump on the guy if we end up playing with a couple is it?
odd ain't it? confused
neil x x x ;)
I think the answer is that actual bi playing is probably going to get a negative reaction unless it's at an event specifically advertised as a bi night, but if you are not particpating in anything bisexual, how is anyone to know what your preferences are?
Ta for responding guys!
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There are still some people who can't quite conceive it all and it causes problems for them. Inevitably they may well try taking out their frustrations on bi's or whoever.

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phil, generally speaking, while you're right you'd expect people to be more open minded, no, it's kind of not done.

I have to admit that I find it very odd that people will accept bi-females but not bi-guys. Some double standards going on there, methinks!
I found a website that said:
prejudice towards gay people and homosexuality can be influenced by the person:
1. Reporting no homosexual experiences or feelings.
2. Being negative about types of sexual behaviour and relationships which are neither procreative nor take place within marriage.
3. Having a lower educational and social status, for example the lower a person's level of educational attainment and social class the more negative their attitudes are towards homosexuality.
4. Having and adhering to strong religious beliefs which disapprove of sex and/or homosexuality.
5. Having little/no social contact with lesbian and gay people.

Another site said:
Kinsey claimed that as many as 37% of men had some kind of homosexual experience after adolescence

Which means that a third of people don't qualify on point 1 above - I can't believe that swingers would believe in point 2 - Number 4 is likely to be out too - so it's more likely to be reasons 3 and/or 5 then.
Hmmmm... Interesting...
Well of course Kinsey was interested in the 100% before.
in some clubs we go to
c/d t/v come now and again
they seem to take more
care
and dress better than
some of the straight guys
It seems to me thet there are still some men out there - even among swingers possibly - who have doubts and insecurities about their manly status. There is still a groundswell of homophobia out and about, and actually being seen to ENJOY another male's attentions is simply too much for some. If the guys could lose the insecurity and just learn to feel with their bodies without the censure of the mind, they would find greater depths of enjoyment, I hope.
It would also seem that the girls are out in front on this point, but probably only due to the prevailing level of public acceptance. In my view girls have many other insecurities that would benefit from being dealt with. More of that another time, maybe.
Sorry to philosophise, but someone else started it....!
Jane x
rolleyes
Jane,
Excellently and succinctly put!
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