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Are men expected to make the same effort to look good

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A while back H started a thread about putting make up on to nip to the shops, well I was wondering do us males get noticed if we don't make the effort.
Normally when I go out, as in proper out drink/club etc.............I look pretty crisp (at the start of the evening at least) and make a huge effort and even when about the house I try to look tidy if PK is about. But this week I'm on nights and she only see's me when I'm asleep. So I've just nipped out to the shops with 3 days worth of stubble that looks a lot more as I'm quite hairy for a fair haired person, and was wearing tracksuit bottoms a old t-shirt and havn't touched my hair since 5PM last night :shock: all I did in the name of vanity was to chuck on a pair of sunglasses to cover up the bags under my eyes due to only having 3 hours sleep last night.
Now would I have stood out as scruffy to all the shoppers or did I just look like a typical day time male and did the ladies think any less of me for looking a tad untidy?
I looked much like that today
I went to the supermarket dressed in tracky bottoms and t shirt with a coat and 2 days off stubble and in need of a haircut.
When in the i suddenly became very concious of this fact and went round as quick as i could.
I've said in H's thread how i notice nicely made up women when at the supermarket so i would imagine they to be the same.
I'm only guessing though.
Personally I'm a generally untidy person..
I'd like to feel I didnt look tooo horrific when just out and about in day to day life...
... and as for my work... practicaliy is of much more importance that *looking good*, thats if you dont mind loosing too many items of clothing to cleaning agents, bodily excretions etc etc >I wont go into that<
quite honestly, being single and living alone, most of the time, my appearance is for me alone, and my own image of myself is not that high, so won't usually put in the effort... bad, I know...
However, of course there are times when its nice to make a change, crisp, clean clothes, polished shoes...all that jazz...
but then... the balance of still feeling like *me*.. or whether or not I'm presenting a false front comes to mind... and if not carefull, get very self conscious, and uncomfortable.
But!!!... I'd like to have a snappy suit, or even the occassion to wear it (no more funerals please).. feel good about myself, and in good the company I may be keeping....
cant get my head around the fact though, that generally...*i'm NOT worth it*
dreery? me?
LP
Ian wears suits or a shirt and tie every working day. At a weekend he'll be in tracky bottoms, jeans, shorts and old t-shirts. He will only shave if we are going out somewhere of an evening or if I ask nicely rolleyes
Thats exactly how he looks right now because he is in Tesco's :lol2:
I once remember someone telling me, I couldn't kiss them, till they had had a shower and shave.
:shock:
One shower and shave later normal service as resumed
I'm somewhere in between. I went to Tescos today so I washed my hair and put some make-up on etc. (Not much, just some mascara and some concealer). I wear a suit everyday to work so I can't be arsed to dress up to do the food shop, so jeans and a t-shirt. I personally couldn't have a relationship with somebody who was really, really vain but I an effort should be made.
When I lived in Cambridge I knew this gorgeous girl who was studying orchestral percussion, she was pretty AND played the drums - a dream date! However when I suggested she come camping with me and my friends for the weeked, she asked me, in all honesty, if she could bring her hair dryer! When I told her we would be roughing it for a couple of days her mouth dropped open and she said she wouldn't be intersted because she can't cope with not being able to do her hair and not looking great. :doh: lol
I don't give a crap what I look like when going to places like a supermarket. I don't shower that often and I never shave if I am not going anywhere that I would consider "out". TBH, I only brush my (long) hair on a daily basis so I do not have to cut out the knots, like I did in the past... such a hard learning curve that was wink . One thing I do often is clean my teeth, I am rather obsessive about that confused Clothing-wise, it's just whatever is hanging around on the floor really, most of my clothes came from charity shops so even if they're clean they always look scruffy. If I am going to work I make slightly more of an effort. That is, I wash my face before I go. That's pretty much the sum total of my effort though as I am a lazy bastard and I do not have to look smart for work. In fact I look that bad, I got offered money on a bus station once on the way home from wrk cos some kind soul thought I was homeless lol lol lol
If I am going "out" as in going to get a shag I will havbe a shower and a shave and wear clean clothes. Said clothes might match or they might not... depends on whether I give a shit or not lol lol . If I am going to a cliub it matters not anyway as I will be going in the jacuzzi pretty much as soon as I get there lol lol lol
In partners, I don't care if they look scruffy on a day to day basis, wh gives a crap anyway rolleyes . I wouldn't fuck them if they smelt and it is nice if they have a good shave and dress up all sexy for me now and again, but hey there's more to life and more important things to do normally so scruffy is generally the way to go lol lol lol
Quote by bluexxx
I got offered money on a bus station once on the way home from wrk cos some kind soul thought I was homeless lol lol lol

haha!
That reminds me...
a good few years ago, at the *hieght* of what was then a supposed glittering and promising carreer >before the preverbial sh*t & fan< I was leaving Turnpike Lane tube station, after a hard days work >creative, doncha know< and a little late drinking ... when a chap sat on the steps, asking others for spare cash, paused in his mantra, and offered me directions to local Salvation Army Shop/Charity gaff.
Apparently, I could get myself some decent second hand strides, and some good quality blankets!
The Swine!.. Couldn't he see I was a young, gifted talent on the up and up? Simply dressing as I chose?
Ok, so I was a little scruffy... >just a tad< but hey!.. I was hippy/goth crossover type thingie...
Mind you, there came a time a couple of years later, that the blankets and the strides may have been much appreciated!
>adjusts tie, and swaggers from the room<
LP
Quote by LondonPlaything
I got offered money on a bus station once on the way home from wrk cos some kind soul thought I was homeless lol lol lol

haha!
That reminds me...
a good few years ago, at the *hieght* of what was then a supposed glittering and promising carreer >before the preverbial sh*t & fan< I was leaving Turnpike Lane tube station, after a hard days work >creative, doncha know< and a little late drinking ... when a chap sat on the steps, asking others for spare cash, paused in his mantra, and offered me directions to local Salvation Army Shop/Charity gaff.
Apparently, I could get myself some decent second hand strides, and some good quality blankets!
The Swine!.. Couldn't he see I was a young, gifted talent on the up and up? Simply dressing as I chose?
Ok, so I was a little scruffy... >just a tad< but hey!.. I was hippy/goth crossover type thingie...
Mind you, there came a time a couple of years later, that the blankets and the strides may have been much appreciated!
>adjusts tie, and swaggers from the room<
LP
You are Russell Brand, aren't you? wink
redface
For me, the difficulty here is that no matter what you do, you just don’t look as smart as the next guy.
I have met some guys that no matter what they wear, they will look smart, others (like me) who could purchase and wear something smart, shave, all that good stuff, will still not look that good. This can even extend to choice of attire. Personally I have no idea about co-ordination and colour. The only thing I do know is I don’t have the physical attributes to wear a top with horizontal stripes, always a vertical for me.
It is for me, not about looks, body shape, indeed anything physical, but possibly that inner confidence that some individuals have.
Maybe over time, any confidence that we did have gets eroded due to a multitude of events. Similarly, if we don’t have that confidence, then it takes something really special in your life to regain that confidence.
As for actually making an effort, that would depend on the situation. In my work life, my attempt is smart but casual – end result a mess.
If I am going out to meet anybody sociably, then I will always make an effort, but again, the result is the same. As for the weekly shopping etc etc, I really can’t be bothered. As long as I don’t smell and my hair is not greasy, then in effect, I perceive myself “fit for purpose” – that purpose being shopping.
In my book you should only not make an effort if you are so cool that 'not making an effort' looks cool. If that makes sense.
hence i try to make an effort!
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Quote by bluexxx
I got offered money on a bus station once on the way home from wrk cos some kind soul thought I was homeless lol lol lol

haha!
That reminds me...
a good few years ago, at the *hieght* of what was then a supposed glittering and promising carreer >before the preverbial sh*t & fan< I was leaving Turnpike Lane tube station, after a hard days work >creative, doncha know< and a little late drinking ... when a chap sat on the steps, asking others for spare cash, paused in his mantra, and offered me directions to local Salvation Army Shop/Charity gaff.
Apparently, I could get myself some decent second hand strides, and some good quality blankets!
The Swine!.. Couldn't he see I was a young, gifted talenton the up and up? Simply dressing as I chose?
Ok, so I was a little scruffy... >just a tad< but hey!.. I was hippy/goth crossover type thingie...
Mind you, there came a time a couple of years later, that the blankets and the strides may have been much appreciated!
>adjusts tie, and swaggers from the room<
LP
You are Russell Brand, aren't you? wink
you obviously missed the bit i've highlighed, Blue. I've flushed more talented things than that muppet
hehe
I'm more likely to notice a guy who's made an effort than one who looks like he's just crawled from under the bed. It doesn't matter what he's wearing so long as he's clean and his clothes look clean. I've got a thing against BO and have openly backed away from guys who stink.
Clothes should reflect where you are, what you're doing and of course, what your own style is.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
It doesn't matter what he's wearing so long as he's clean and his clothes look clean.

:thumbup:
i like to see a bloke who's made an effort - i dont like 'pristine' and over-dressed, but clean and tidy is good. I'm not one for manicured nails and such like either - i like a 'manly man' , with some nice aftershave to finish off biggrin
Quote by Darkfire
It doesn't matter what he's wearing so long as he's clean and his clothes look clean.

:thumbup:
i like to see a bloke who's made an effort - i dont like 'pristine' and over-dressed, but clean and tidy is good. I'm not one for manicured nails and such like either - i like a 'manly man' , with some nice aftershave to finish off biggrin
see, told you the tux was a one off......
Doesn’t seem to matter what I wear or how hard I try to look neat, trendy and stylish, I always end up looking like a bag of spanners dunno
I think I must be a weird shape rolleyes
I wear a uniform every day / night (depends on shift) so tracky’s and t’shirt are usually order of the day for me. Unless the weather is like its been for the last couple of months, in which case its shorts and beer belly :cheers:
Quote by essex34m
i dont like 'pristine' and over-dressed, but clean and tidy is good.

see, told you the tux was a one off......
wide-boy that was just a theme, you're excused lol
The thing that bugs me is when going out, and I'm not sure if this is just a South Wales thing, the women seem to throw every item of jewellery; all their make-up; the best part of a bottle of perfume; enough hair spray to encase a small rhino and the smallest item in their wardrobe on. The men wear jeans and T-shirts (usually wrapped round a beer gut) and then sneer at me cos I 'haven't made an effort'
H.x
Quote by H-x
The thing that bugs me is when going out, and I'm not sure if this is just a South Wales thing, the women seem to throw every item of jewellery; all their make-up; the best part of a bottle of perfume; enough hair spray to encase a small rhino and the smallest item in their wardrobe on. The men wear jeans and T-shirts (usually wrapped round a beer gut) and then sneer at me cos I 'haven't made an effort'
H.x

I'm never coming to Wales! :scared:
:giggle:
Quote by H-x
The thing that bugs me is when going out, and I'm not sure if this is just a South Wales thing, the women seem to throw every item of jewellery; all their make-up; the best part of a bottle of perfume; enough hair spray to encase a small rhino and the smallest item in their wardrobe on. The men wear jeans and T-shirts (usually wrapped round a beer gut) and then sneer at me cos I 'haven't made an effort'
H.x

It happens here in Essex, H-x, why do you think i make the effort to go to munches, so i can see some class, such as yourself smile
Quote by H-x
The thing that bugs me is when going out, and I'm not sure if this is just a South Wales thing, the women seem to throw every item of jewellery; all their make-up; the best part of a bottle of perfume; enough hair spray to encase a small rhino and the smallest item in their wardrobe on. The men wear jeans and T-shirts (usually wrapped round a beer gut) and then sneer at me cos I 'haven't made an effort'
H.x

That's just the Valleys Slappers at large hunni rolleyes
Kiss, I hasten to add, we're not ALL like that wink