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Duncan / Mallock: I agrred with you but was pointing out that such slanted behaviour does not have to be explicit.
But I wasnt talking to you
I was talking to jaymar........
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Are there any Asain(Indian) Clubs out there?
Sex God
can i ask the op in what way he thinks asians are made to feel uncomfortabel in clubs?
is it that you feel you are ignored?
or people are actually rude to you?
is it that you feel you are ignored?
or people are actually rude to you?
Sex God
i think i have found the problem.
looking at the profile it states asian only, so that limits it to 5 percent of the poulation.
it then says male,( half of the abover 5 percent are fems) so thats limits it to 2.5 percent.
it then says straight ( around 1 in five of the above are bi or gay) so that would limit it to 2 percent of the polulation.
it then says 34 or under.
now bearing in mind the lower age for a member of club is 18, i would say 18-34 years of age is at the MOST a quater of the population, which then brings you down to a quater of two percent, 0.5 percent, so that limits you to half a percent of the polulation.
ie. only 1 person in ever 200 will fit what you are looking for!
no if we consider a swingers club to be made up along the same lines as the general population, then in a
normal sized club holding 100 people you should meet half a person satisfying your criteria.
or in a VERY packed club on a very busy night there should statistically be ONE person who satisfies your criteria.
and this does not even start to take into account what they may not be physically attractive, if we say theat of the people who satisfy what you want, 1 in 5 you fancy.... welll, lets just say you are fucked! (or not as it seems)
if you happen to have looked the other direction when they walked past you you have blown it.
:shock:
disclamer, this was not a certified study carried out under propper conditions, it was me on my day off!!!
looking at the profile it states asian only, so that limits it to 5 percent of the poulation.
it then says male,( half of the abover 5 percent are fems) so thats limits it to 2.5 percent.
it then says straight ( around 1 in five of the above are bi or gay) so that would limit it to 2 percent of the polulation.
it then says 34 or under.
now bearing in mind the lower age for a member of club is 18, i would say 18-34 years of age is at the MOST a quater of the population, which then brings you down to a quater of two percent, 0.5 percent, so that limits you to half a percent of the polulation.
ie. only 1 person in ever 200 will fit what you are looking for!
no if we consider a swingers club to be made up along the same lines as the general population, then in a
normal sized club holding 100 people you should meet half a person satisfying your criteria.
or in a VERY packed club on a very busy night there should statistically be ONE person who satisfies your criteria.
and this does not even start to take into account what they may not be physically attractive, if we say theat of the people who satisfy what you want, 1 in 5 you fancy.... welll, lets just say you are fucked! (or not as it seems)
if you happen to have looked the other direction when they walked past you you have blown it.
:shock:
disclamer, this was not a certified study carried out under propper conditions, it was me on my day off!!!
Sex God
ah sorry! my bad
i did not read the names and thought it was the origional poster who had played the " being predudice" card.
i appologise to the OP, its flame hot who i was asking the question of.
i did not read the names and thought it was the origional poster who had played the " being predudice" card.
i appologise to the OP, its flame hot who i was asking the question of.
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I have been to Liaisons but that was 6 yrs ago I think, so possibly different now. True re Asian women & indeed most of that is cultural but even allowing for that there is a discrepancy.
We were going to Liaisons then and 6 years ago there were a higher proportion of Asians attending than there were in the general population, so I would say that that is one club that you have been to where Asians seem to be happy to attend. However, they were invariably male so maybe you didn't notice them.
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Mr Powers: Again you misunderstand. You are mixing up two separate points.
NW cpl: Possibly, which is why I expressed it as in my experience & as my opinion, not a total statement of fact. And I did also say that there are good people around too. I have been to Liaisons but that was 6 yrs ago I think, so possibly different now. True re Asian women & indeed most of that is cultural but even allowing for that there is a discrepancy.
Duncan / Mallock: I agreed with you but was pointing out that such slanted behaviour does not have to be explicit.
i just wanted to ask a question on something that NW cpl brought up.
the majority of asians that frequent swing clubs are male...why is this?...you say single asian females don't attend clubs as this is a cultural thing...i have a rough idea why...but would you care to elaborate why asian women don't attend clubs?
Warming the Bed
I wrote a very long answer & promptly lost it when my browser login timed out :-( Grrr Safari.
Duncan / Mallock: Butting out of that sub-conversation.
NW Cpl: Maybe. But it is not the attendance but the interactions & success rate that count.
WBBabe: In answer to your questions, both. But for the benefit of readers I have to reiterate now that it is not my profile or ad that states racial requirements but that of the OP. And as those who have seen my profile can confirm, I am fairly selective myself. Swinging to me is about sharing, not a drive-by. I tried out a fair number of clubs a while ago. Your calculations are wrong. You need to calculate the relative ratios of Asians at the clubs to their success rates compared to those of other groups. The only definitive way of proving this would on the net would be to make up dummy profiles identical except for pics & race & send messages out, totting up just how many struck gold. That however is too much like work. And it can't be done for meets, which is why I asked for peoples experiences & opinions.
Mr Powers: Not just fewer single Asian women, couples too are under-represented compared to the males. And possibly that is for societal & cultural reasons i.e. depends on their familial circumstances etc. It could be that the Madonna syndrome is more common, maybe that they are less comfortable in public, maybe even that they are less exposed to the knowledge & opportunity. And even fewer of those that swing go to clubs was the point. Since I am male I can only go by impressions & what I have been told but the reasons range from general comfort levels to interactions with others.
Duncan / Mallock: Butting out of that sub-conversation.
NW Cpl: Maybe. But it is not the attendance but the interactions & success rate that count.
WBBabe: In answer to your questions, both. But for the benefit of readers I have to reiterate now that it is not my profile or ad that states racial requirements but that of the OP. And as those who have seen my profile can confirm, I am fairly selective myself. Swinging to me is about sharing, not a drive-by. I tried out a fair number of clubs a while ago. Your calculations are wrong. You need to calculate the relative ratios of Asians at the clubs to their success rates compared to those of other groups. The only definitive way of proving this would on the net would be to make up dummy profiles identical except for pics & race & send messages out, totting up just how many struck gold. That however is too much like work. And it can't be done for meets, which is why I asked for peoples experiences & opinions.
Mr Powers: Not just fewer single Asian women, couples too are under-represented compared to the males. And possibly that is for societal & cultural reasons i.e. depends on their familial circumstances etc. It could be that the Madonna syndrome is more common, maybe that they are less comfortable in public, maybe even that they are less exposed to the knowledge & opportunity. And even fewer of those that swing go to clubs was the point. Since I am male I can only go by impressions & what I have been told but the reasons range from general comfort levels to interactions with others.
Sex God
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WBBabe: In answer to your questions, both. But for the benefit of readers I have to reiterate now that it is not my profile or ad that states racial requirements but that of the OP. And as those who have seen my profile can confirm, I am fairly selective myself. Swinging to me is about sharing, not a drive-by. I tried out a fair number of clubs a while ago. Your calculations are wrong. You need to calculate the relative ratios of Asians at the clubs to their success rates compared to those of other groups. The only definitive way of proving this would on the net would be to make up dummy profiles identical except for pics & race & send messages out, totting up just how many struck gold. That however is too much like work. And it can't be done for meets, which is why I asked for peoples experiences & opinions.
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the orgional question was not posted by you, i replied to the origional question showing why there were not many of the people they were looking for.
working our the "ratio of asians at a club relative to their success rate" is quite frankly bullshit!
if there is one asian couple at a club and they dont get laid does that mean it is people not making asains welcome or could it just mean that thoes particular two people making up the couple are not the type of people that inspire people to want to play with them.
the attendence is a MASSIVE factor so it is YOU who is wrong.
it obvious that the more people of a certain "group" attend a club, the higher the numbers of them getting laid.
in any club not every couple pull, if say on an average night 40 percent( to be more than generous) of people in the club get laid, but asians account for only 1 percent of the attendees, they simple maths tells us that its more likely that the asian person will not have got laid.
you can not conduct a meaningfull survey on a minute population. FACT not many asians go to clubs, so it stands to reason that not many asians get laid in clubs!
would not have thought it was sooooo difficult to understand.
i am sure there are many european people who go to clubs and dont get laid, what predudice are we going to lay that on? or can we accept that some people just dont pull!
it sounds to me that you are a little bitter by your own experiences in clubs, maybe you get no attention and it sits better with you to think that people are racist and not interested in you because you are asain, rather than because they are just not interested in you as a person.
you think that you have your race against you with regards to your success in swinging, i would place money on the fact that its more likely your "woe is me" attitude.
Sex God
you know what has pissed me off, you have generallised so much, you have practiacally accused all the non - asian swingers in the clubs you and the "people you have spoken to" of making asians feel unwelcome, uncomfortable and unwanted.
if you go to many places where everyone seems to get on and is socialble with each other, yet you feel like you never fit in, just a thought but it might not always be everyone else who has the problem.
if you go to many places where everyone seems to get on and is socialble with each other, yet you feel like you never fit in, just a thought but it might not always be everyone else who has the problem.
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Mr Powers: Not just fewer single Asian women, couples too are under-represented compared to the males. And possibly that is for societal & cultural reasons i.e. depends on their familial circumstances etc. It could be that the Madonna syndrome is more common, maybe that they are less comfortable in public, maybe even that they are less exposed to the knowledge & opportunity. And even fewer of those that swing go to clubs was the point. Since I am male I can only go by impressions & what I have been told but the reasons range from general comfort levels to interactions with others.
would you like to see more single asian females attend clubs...or is that frowned upon and non-asian females are considered easier targets to have sex with?
Warming the Bed
would you like to see more single Asian females attend clubs...or is that frowned upon and non-Asian females are considered easier targets to have sex with?
That Mr Powers was what I meant by a stereotype. Would you ask a similar question of another group? Would it be ok to assume that because someone is black / white / rainbow coloured, they are a better / worse performer?
To me personally, it is up to each individual as to whether they do something, be it swing or attend a club. And I have had longish-term relationships with different ethnicities, so no problems there.
WBBabe: So why the vehemence? Your post of 2033 & 2038 make a few assumptions about me, none of which I am interested in disabusing you of. As I said earlier, I am very specific about what I am looking for & have no need to play "cards" of any kind. This was a comment & discussion. But I have a feeling that my grasp of statistics is better than yours. And your post of 1607 said that your questions were addressed to me, hence the answer. I shall leave you to your indignation.
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would you like to see more single Asian females attend clubs...or is that frowned upon and non-Asian females are considered easier targets to have sex with?
That Mr Powers was what I meant by a stereotype. Would you ask a similar question of another group? Would it be ok to assume that because someone is black / white / rainbow coloured, they are a better / worse performer?
To me personally, it is up to each individual as to whether they do something, be it swing or attend a club. And I have had longish-term relationships with different ethnicities, so no problems there.
its not a stereotype(and what as there race got to do to with their performance?)...its just a simple question...it doesn't matter to me wether your black,white,asian or chinese...i'm asking you because the matter of a the small amounts of asians attending clubs has been brought up...if a black or chinese wants to ask the same question...then i will ask them as well.
Warming the Bed
No Mr Powers, that was not what I was referring to. I meant the implication inherent in your question that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same. You might have not been aware of it but it is present just the same. With reference to my mention of colours & performance, I was giving you an example of a different stereotype where colour was linked to anatomy & performance. Stereotypes can be positive or negative, not necessarily just one way.
Sex God
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WBBabe: So why the vehemence? Your post of 2033 & 2038 make a few assumptions about me, none of which I am interested in disabusing you of. .
and almost ALL of your posts have made assumptions about a lot of people who go to clubs!
or is it a case of one rule for you and one for others?
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But I have a feeling that my grasp of statistics is better than yours..
yet anopther of your assumptions, you are getting quite good at it are you not?
i fear you would be shocked if i explained to you just how deep my grasp of stats goes, however, unlike you - i have no wish (or need) to try and prove a point.
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And your post of 1607 said that your questions were addressed to me, hence the answer..
the comments about the numbers of people available to the ops baesed on their own requirements were quite clearly address to them. you felt the need to involve yourself in that.
my one and only question to you was about your attitude and what reason you had to make a statement about how people treat asians in clubs.
a question i might add you have not actually answered, you have not given an example it all boils down to "people you have spoken to felt unwelcome".
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I shall leave you to your indignation.
no, it is i who shall leave you to yours, after all - everyone else ignores you because you are asian - or so you would have us believe.
Sex God
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No Mr Powers, that was not what I was referring to. I meant the implication inherent in your question that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same. You might have not been aware of it but it is present just the same. With reference to my mention of colours & performance, I was giving you an example of a different stereotype where colour was linked to anatomy & performance. Stereotypes can be positive or negative, not necessarily just one way.
i never said that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same...i was asking you for your views on the question i was asking!...remember i was asking a question not making a statement!
mr powers, just leave it, you will never win!
you ask a question and are accused of sterotyping, yet he can make comments that decent people at clubs are " very few and far between" and so on.
just leave him to wallow in his own self inflicted and misery and imagined suffering.
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No Mr Powers, that was not what I was referring to. I meant the implication inherent in your question that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same. You might have not been aware of it but it is present just the same. With reference to my mention of colours & performance, I was giving you an example of a different stereotype where colour was linked to anatomy & performance. Stereotypes can be positive or negative, not necessarily just one way.
well considering the lack of single asian females at clubs...i had to ask the question!
Sex God
anyway, i have other things to be occupying me now.
lovely chatting to you flame, perhaps we will meet in a club one day!
lovely chatting to you flame, perhaps we will meet in a club one day!
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No Mr Powers, that was not what I was referring to. I meant the implication inherent in your question that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same. You might have not been aware of it but it is present just the same. With reference to my mention of colours & performance, I was giving you an example of a different stereotype where colour was linked to anatomy & performance. Stereotypes can be positive or negative, not necessarily just one way.
i never said that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same...i was asking you for your views on the question i was asking!...remember i was asking a question not making a statement!
mr powers, just leave it, you will never win!
you ask a question and are accused of sterotyping, yet he can make comments that decent people at clubs are " very few and far between" and so on.
just leave him to wallow in his own self inflicted and misery and imagined suffering.
i know what you mean....i still haven't an answer to one of my questions that i'm happy with!
Warming the Bed
Mr Powers: I passed no judgement on whether you believed that particular stereotype or not. But the question was still based on one & that is what I pointed out. And if you think I didn't answer your question of 2048, I refer you to my post of 2119, specifically the second paragraph. Or are there any others that you feel are left unanswered? If you feel that that question was innocuous, would you be prepared to answer mine?
I have no particular desire to have the last word or play games by encouraging / discouraging others from joining in the conversation.
I have no particular desire to have the last word or play games by encouraging / discouraging others from joining in the conversation.
In another thread, on 27-7-2006:
Nearly 1 year later it was resurrected on 3-7-2007:
Out of the 5 categories that the man put himself into, you chose to concentrate on the racial element. You chose not to wonder if it was his age or lack of experience etc that contributed to his lack of success. It was you that introduced the racial element into that thread and I have to wonder at your motives for doing that.
In your original post on this thread you said:
Which was the sweeping statement that seems to have raised a few hackles.
You also said:
Your qualification of “my experience” applies to prejudices and stereotypes, not the catchall statement about clubs.
The original poster in this thread did not say that he found prejudice in clubs. His first comment was that the majority of club goers were 45+ and then he said that there was little ethnic diversity and then he said that he preferred Asian brown skin – a completely acceptable personal preference. Again, it was you that raised the racial prejudice element in the thread.
Just so that I am clear:
We play with some Asian single guys but by no means all that come to the club, just as we play with some black guys and some mixed race guys but not all. Our reasons for our choices as to who we play with are personal, but quite clearly they are not based on ethnic origin. However, what defence do we have to the accusation by the Asian man, that we do not wish to play with when we are playing with several white guys, that we are excluding him on the grounds of his race. It might be that he hasn't washed, that he is ugly, he is pushy or just that he arrived at the scene too late - all reasons that we might knock white guys back for.
In our experience, the Asian guys who are successful with us, and there are many, are the ones who make the effort, just as the successful white guys and black guys and mixed race guys do. The unsuccessful ones sit in a corner and presumably blame someone else for their lack of success.
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What are the chances of meeting people of here when a) your young, b) your asian c) your not very well endowed but are average sized. d) attractive in your own little way! e) don't have a great amount of swinging experience?...no comments on my inexperience as i've already established that?
Nearly 1 year later it was resurrected on 3-7-2007:
Quote by Flamehot
So, a serious question. I wonder if any of the asian men / women on here would feel able to give their own views on the matter.
Out of the 5 categories that the man put himself into, you chose to concentrate on the racial element. You chose not to wonder if it was his age or lack of experience etc that contributed to his lack of success. It was you that introduced the racial element into that thread and I have to wonder at your motives for doing that.
In your original post on this thread you said:
Quote by Flamehot
There are few asian people at clubs because they are made to feel unwelcome.
Which was the sweeping statement that seems to have raised a few hackles.
You also said:
Quote by Flamehot
Prejudices & stereotypes are very common, atleast in my experience, so much so that I have given up going.
Your qualification of “my experience” applies to prejudices and stereotypes, not the catchall statement about clubs.
The original poster in this thread did not say that he found prejudice in clubs. His first comment was that the majority of club goers were 45+ and then he said that there was little ethnic diversity and then he said that he preferred Asian brown skin – a completely acceptable personal preference. Again, it was you that raised the racial prejudice element in the thread.
Just so that I am clear:
We play with some Asian single guys but by no means all that come to the club, just as we play with some black guys and some mixed race guys but not all. Our reasons for our choices as to who we play with are personal, but quite clearly they are not based on ethnic origin. However, what defence do we have to the accusation by the Asian man, that we do not wish to play with when we are playing with several white guys, that we are excluding him on the grounds of his race. It might be that he hasn't washed, that he is ugly, he is pushy or just that he arrived at the scene too late - all reasons that we might knock white guys back for.
In our experience, the Asian guys who are successful with us, and there are many, are the ones who make the effort, just as the successful white guys and black guys and mixed race guys do. The unsuccessful ones sit in a corner and presumably blame someone else for their lack of success.
Sex God
I really really wanted to leave this thread alone.... I saw it this morning... got a bit annoyed and decided to think about it before writing...
I'll say this....
as a big fat black bloke....and i think i can say that without anyone disputing it
..I would rather that people played with me because of me..and by that i mean my personality
some people are not going to want to play with me because I am black... I am not going to float everyones boat...that is life.... I move on
some people are not going to want to play with me because I am large....I am not going to float everyones boat....that is life....I move on
everyone is going to have there preferences.... it is called life......
would you play with someone a lot lot older/younger than you??? a lot/lot fatter/skinnier than you???? a lot taller/shorter that you????
I bet even you have a few preferences as well.....
now theres a thought........hmmmmmmmmm
I'll say this....
as a big fat black bloke....and i think i can say that without anyone disputing it
..I would rather that people played with me because of me..and by that i mean my personalitysome people are not going to want to play with me because I am black... I am not going to float everyones boat...that is life.... I move on
some people are not going to want to play with me because I am large....I am not going to float everyones boat....that is life....I move on
everyone is going to have there preferences.... it is called life......
would you play with someone a lot lot older/younger than you??? a lot/lot fatter/skinnier than you???? a lot taller/shorter that you????
I bet even you have a few preferences as well.....
now theres a thought........hmmmmmmmmm
Sex God
Would anyone play with:
Warming the Bed
NW Cpl
Er, I did not introduce it since it already existed. I chose to focus on that because it was the one I was interested in, so nothing to wonder there. Most of the other attributes the OP had mentioned were not applicable to me.
Forum / thread good practice includes not posting a new topic when there is already one encompassing it.
Which was the sweeping statement that seems to have raised a few hackles.
You also said:
Your qualification of “my experience” applies to prejudices and stereotypes, not the catchall statement about clubs.
It is a paragraph. Artificially separating those two sentences so that the qualifier applies just to one distorts the meaning.
He named the effect. I gave my opinion as to possible cause. Nothing hidden there.
As I said earlier, there is no definitive way of proving bias whether positive or negative except by a blinded trial & it is impossible to do so during personal meets. And there is no accusation or need to stand trial. You don't have to answer to anyone except yourself if you don't want to & if after genuine introspection you are happy that you didn't, then you say so. But if you know in your mind that the reason you won't play is because you think Asians have curry breath (without personal knowledge of that in this particular instance) (a random example), then it is up to you to be honest to yourself.
Shall I turn that comment around? Why is that person sat in that corner? Is it because of something you did or contributed to? Suppose it is a restaurant & a very raucous party have taken the place over on more than one occasion. So the customer who prefers their meal in quieter surrounds might decide it was not worth going there after a while. How about that analogy? That is what I am asking you to consider. Why is that such a stretch?
Fabio: This is the Cafe, I offered an opinion for discussion. I do not insist that people meet / play with me or anyone else for that matter. I gave my opinion as to why some might / might not. I do not even insist that people comment on this discussion. There appears however a desire on the part of some to stop such discussion. Why, I wonder!
Freckledbird: I appear to have been here on the forum longer than you, not counting my profile on the original site. If you feel that bringing up a difficult topic that you do not understand is trolling, you are welcome not to participate.
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In another thread, on 27-7-2006:
Out of the 5 categories that the man put himself into, you chose to concentrate on the racial element. You chose not to wonder if it was his age or lack of experience etc. that contributed to his lack of success. It was you that introduced the racial element into that thread and I have to wonder at your motives for doing that.
Er, I did not introduce it since it already existed. I chose to focus on that because it was the one I was interested in, so nothing to wonder there. Most of the other attributes the OP had mentioned were not applicable to me.
Forum / thread good practice includes not posting a new topic when there is already one encompassing it.
In your original post on this thread you said:
There are few Asian people at clubs because they are made to feel unwelcome.
Which was the sweeping statement that seems to have raised a few hackles.
You also said:
Quote by Flamehot
Prejudices & stereotypes are very common, at-least in my experience, so much so that I have given up going.
Your qualification of “my experience” applies to prejudices and stereotypes, not the catchall statement about clubs.
It is a paragraph. Artificially separating those two sentences so that the qualifier applies just to one distorts the meaning.
The original poster in this thread did not say that he found prejudice in clubs.
He named the effect. I gave my opinion as to possible cause. Nothing hidden there.
However, what defence do we have to the accusation by the Asian man, that we do not wish to play with when we are playing with several white guys, that we are excluding him on the grounds of his race.
As I said earlier, there is no definitive way of proving bias whether positive or negative except by a blinded trial & it is impossible to do so during personal meets. And there is no accusation or need to stand trial. You don't have to answer to anyone except yourself if you don't want to & if after genuine introspection you are happy that you didn't, then you say so. But if you know in your mind that the reason you won't play is because you think Asians have curry breath (without personal knowledge of that in this particular instance) (a random example), then it is up to you to be honest to yourself.
In our experience, the Asian guys who are successful with us, and there are many, are the ones who make the effort, just as the successful white guys and black guys and mixed race guys do. The unsuccessful ones sit in a corner and presumably blame someone else for their lack of success.
Shall I turn that comment around? Why is that person sat in that corner? Is it because of something you did or contributed to? Suppose it is a restaurant & a very raucous party have taken the place over on more than one occasion. So the customer who prefers their meal in quieter surrounds might decide it was not worth going there after a while. How about that analogy? That is what I am asking you to consider. Why is that such a stretch?
Fabio: This is the Cafe, I offered an opinion for discussion. I do not insist that people meet / play with me or anyone else for that matter. I gave my opinion as to why some might / might not. I do not even insist that people comment on this discussion. There appears however a desire on the part of some to stop such discussion. Why, I wonder!
Freckledbird: I appear to have been here on the forum longer than you, not counting my profile on the original site. If you feel that bringing up a difficult topic that you do not understand is trolling, you are welcome not to participate.
Sex God
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Freckledbird: I appear to have been here on the forum longer than you, not counting my profile on the original site. If you feel that bringing up a difficult topic that you do not understand is trolling, you are welcome not to participate.
Oh, I understand it just fine. It's a subject which i find interesting and I am inclined to involve myself in the discussion. But you're not really endearing yourself to many people and you're being quite evasive, answering questions with questions and the like. Can't really understand your motives. Troll-like behaviour at its best. I also don't think that how long one has been on the forum, or their post count, should be a consideration. We are all adults here and all entitled to express our opinions as we wish, as long as we do not go against the AUP. Oh, and I'm told we have to use emoticons too. So here's one:
In edit: I didn't actually say that I meant you were trolling, Flamehot - but if the cap fits...
Warming the Bed
{b}Freckledbird{/b]: You accused me of trolling, the only reasonable explanation for your post containing the image. Your edit to deny such intention is rather weak. My rejoinder was that I had been a member of the site / forum longer than you & the inference was that this wasn't typical troll behaviour. The fact that you don't understand my motives is your problem, not mine. And since you accuse me of evasion, fell free to point it out.
BTW it might interest you to know that premature / false accusations of trolling are also breaches of netiquette.
BTW it might interest you to know that premature / false accusations of trolling are also breaches of netiquette.
