Are we mugs?

11 Oct 2008

Quote by helnheaven
Any person making a claim has certain criteria to fulfil, if they dont fulfil the criteria, their claim wont be successful

So they can claim enough benefits to keep them in a £1.7 million mansion having paid nothing into the country but when I was unfortunate enough to be made redundant I was allocated a measley £57 per week having paid taxes since leaving school at 16.....
Yep...........Mugs indeed.....

11 Oct 2008

Quote by helnheaven

I say NO benefits to any immigrant that has NOT contributed to this country for at least 6 months. Why do these people travel through 5 or 6 countries to get here? For the benefits we give them....free.

I have to agree boink

It used to be that after a period of time unemployed that your benefits were reduced in an attempt to encourage you back to work....
Is this still the case dunno

You are sanctioned now. If you refuse to go to interviews/work placements/training courses, in other words, refuse help and refuse to help yourself, JSA is stopped
If i dont attend a 6 monthly interview my benefits just stop, but there is a bit more to it than that,
The last one i got was for pm?? erm yeah ok cant do that and phones to change it they tell me another appointment is in the post. Get the appointment now for after id explaned anytime between 3 and 4 was difficult for the kids coming home from school fair enough point i thought.
Rings up to say cant make that one, gets told if i DO NOT attend this interview my benefits will be stopped. Your punished if you cant make silly appointment times. So what am i supposed to do, why just take my son out of school early or arrange someone to watch him :doh:
Dont get me wrong i agree with the interviews but i am at home all day long why send appointments when they know kids are coming home from school
I know its difficult when you have small kids Tan. The problem is, the way the system is structured it offers no leeway. When you 'sign on' you are declaring that you are available for work at any time. The office who deals with claims, takes this statement quite literally and expects you to be available for anythingat any time. You could try asking to speak the the Manager and explain the situation but in my experience, you wont get very far sad

Its not signing on benefits or jobseekers, the benefits i receive are for the disability(es) of my son I could work full time with what i receive for him

11 Oct 2008

Quote by TanKinky

I say NO benefits to any immigrant that has NOT contributed to this country for at least 6 months. Why do these people travel through 5 or 6 countries to get here? For the benefits we give them....free.

I have to agree boink

It used to be that after a period of time unemployed that your benefits were reduced in an attempt to encourage you back to work....
Is this still the case dunno

You are sanctioned now. If you refuse to go to interviews/work placements/training courses, in other words, refuse help and refuse to help yourself, JSA is stopped
If i dont attend a 6 monthly interview my benefits just stop, but there is a bit more to it than that,
The last one i got was for pm?? erm yeah ok cant do that and phones to change it they tell me another appointment is in the post. Get the appointment now for after id explaned anytime between 3 and 4 was difficult for the kids coming home from school fair enough point i thought.
Rings up to say cant make that one, gets told if i DO NOT attend this interview my benefits will be stopped. Your punished if you cant make silly appointment times. So what am i supposed to do, why just take my son out of school early or arrange someone to watch him :doh:
Dont get me wrong i agree with the interviews but i am at home all day long why send appointments when they know kids are coming home from school
I know its difficult when you have small kids Tan. The problem is, the way the system is structured it offers no leeway. When you 'sign on' you are declaring that you are available for work at any time. The office who deals with claims, takes this statement quite literally and expects you to be available for anythingat any time. You could try asking to speak the the Manager and explain the situation but in my experience, you wont get very far sad

Its not signing on benefits or jobseekers, the benefits i receive are for the disability(es) of my son I could work full time with what i receive for him
Sorry Tan thought you were talking JSA. To claim any benefit, you have to be available for interview at any time. I would think in your case you have reasonable grounds for requesting an interview fits in with your routine. Try the Manager route and explain your circumstances.

11 Oct 2008

Quote by Steve

Any person making a claim has certain criteria to fulfil, if they dont fulfil the criteria, their claim wont be successful

So they can claim enough benefits to keep them in a £1.7 million mansion having paid nothing into the country but when I was unfortunate enough to be made redundant I was allocated a measley £57 per week having paid taxes since leaving school at 16.....
Yep...........Mugs indeed.....
I dont know, I dont make the rules :cry:
Are you bullying me? :giggle:

11 Oct 2008

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11 Oct 2008

Quote by helnheaven
So you all have these hoops you have to jump through in order to get your entitlement...
How come others can walk into the country,not having paid a penny,and get everything they need
Just doesnt seem right......Not to me anyway....

Erm, they cant and I havent a clue where the idea comes from that they can :dunno:
Any person making a claim has certain criteria to fulfil, if they dont fulfil the criteria, their claim wont be successful
But some criteria seems to include the fact that, if you are English (can't be British these days) and like Steve says have paid all your taxes and social payments since you started work - including your parents before you - you fail at the first post whereas others not hampered by this awful affliction can seemingly get what they want, when they want and in whatever quantity they want!

11 Oct 2008

This family that I highlighted do NOT speak English, that's English and not British. lol

So if a family comes here, just to point out here they would have had to come through 5 countries to get here, and they cannot speak the language, how the hell are they going to get a job? dunno

They go to the job centre where we have to lay on interpreters, another bunce of money, to explian things to them. She seems to understand Morrisons alright though. :shock:
My point here is why...yes the word why, do we allow these people to come here, when they do not speak the English, and have nowhere to live? The clue here is obvious to me. For somebody to go through 5 countries to get here, they are coming here for the benefit culture.
Welcome to free Britain. Paid nothing? Thats fine we give it all to you for free, courtesy of the British taxpayer. Lets be fair if we lived in a country like they did we would want to come here too. A nice house as you go top of the tree, seven kids, at least over there they would be from the same Father, unlike over here. :lol: :lol:
Are we mugs? Too right we are but...as the credit crunch hits us all, this kind of thing will just make people more and more angry. It just is not right. cool

11 Oct 2008

It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

11 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

I doubt it as those countries know, they are heading for the country of the free.
Wht would they want to stop in France? They would get nothing there. So straight to Blighty, a nice person shows them the way to Croydon. What a life eh? lol

11 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

I doubt it as those countries know, they are heading for the country of the free.
Wht would they want to stop in France? They would get nothing there. So straight to Blighty, a nice person shows them the way to Croydon. What a life eh? lol

Do you two work for the Sun? :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
Dave_Notts

11 Oct 2008

Quote by Dave__Notts
It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

I doubt it as those countries know, they are heading for the country of the free.
Wht would they want to stop in France? They would get nothing there. So straight to Blighty, a nice person shows them the way to Croydon. What a life eh? lol

Do you two work for the Sun? :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
Dave_Notts
Makes ya wonder dont it?? Ive already asked Kent777, he says not but then have you ever known a Sun reporter tell the truth? wink

:lol:
Oh and many a true word spoken in jest :wink:

11 Oct 2008

Quote by helnheaven
It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

I doubt it as those countries know, they are heading for the country of the free.
Wht would they want to stop in France? They would get nothing there. So straight to Blighty, a nice person shows them the way to Croydon. What a life eh? lol

Do you two work for the Sun? :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
Dave_Notts
Makes ya wonder dont it?? Ive already asked Kent777, he says not but then have you ever known a Sun reporter tell the truth? wink

:lol:
Oh and many a true word spoken in jest :wink:
Frequently, as they seem to be the only ones with any balls. :lol: :lol:
Mind you though, could be worse....I could read the Guardian. :lol:

11 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
It may not be right 777.. but you have to remember that the commissar gives them voting rights once they've put their mark on a scrappy piece of paper at the Town Hall giving them "citizenship". They can then stick two fingers up to everyone else and the commissar knows that he has another 15 votes in the postbag come the next election (I bet they are told to vote Labour at the next election too - they probably think their stay here is a contract with that as a condition).
As for the 5 European countries they pass through to get here, there must be a huge sigh of relief as they are waved out the departure gate of each successive one!

I doubt it as those countries know, they are heading for the country of the free.
Wht would they want to stop in France? They would get nothing there. So straight to Blighty, a nice person shows them the way to Croydon. What a life eh? lol

Do you two work for the Sun? :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
Dave_Notts
Makes ya wonder dont it?? Ive already asked Kent777, he says not but then have you ever known a Sun reporter tell the truth? wink

:lol:
Oh and many a true word spoken in jest :wink:
Frequently, as they seem to be the only ones with any balls. :lol: :lol:
Mind you though, could be worse....I could read the Guardian. :lol:
Yep! and thats what they use to think with :lol:

11 Oct 2008

Does anyone actually read the Guardian?

11 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
Does anyone actually read the Guardian?

Someone said they did the other day. lol

11 Oct 2008

Quote by flower411
Does anyone actually read the Guardian?

FB does !!! it`s the only place she can use her red pen in this PC world !!
You are soooo gonna be in trouble for that :giggle:

11 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Does anyone actually read the Guardian?

Someone said they did the other day. lol

Ahh!

12 Oct 2008

Quote by flower411
Does anyone actually read the Guardian?

FB does !!! it`s the only place she can use her red pen in this PC world !!
smackbottom

I don't read any newspaper.

12 Oct 2008

Well todays papers are out and yet more scandal about this lazy workshy, bunch of scroungers. lol

Two links here, have a fun week as you struggle tp pay your next gas or leccy bill peeps.

Nice telly they have though!! Knocked off too I bet. :lol:

12 Oct 2008

I've just read thise articles and the reader responses. Whilst I still agree that it's a disgusting situation, I had a bit of a giggle at some of the responses. The woman's children are mostly attending school, college or university. They'll probably leave with a better standard of English than most of the people writing those responses. Ironic, that. Those people writing should be ashamed of themselves.
I actually rolled my eyes at the one from 'Lynda' - 'I feel desperatly sorry for the futres of the youths of today! **** jobs! **** pay! **** over priced existance!
Where will it all END?? I will tell you! The same place as the financial marked!
When society crashes too, thats when the despondant people born of this Nation will take NO MORE! They will react in the only way left REVALOUTION!!'

12 Oct 2008

Quote by Freckledbird
I've just read thise articles and the reader responses. Whilst I still agree that it's a disgusting situation, I had a bit of a giggle at some of the responses. The woman's children are mostly attending school, college or university. They'll probably leave with a better standard of English than most of the people writing those responses. Ironic, that. Those people writing should be ashamed of themselves.
I actually rolled my eyes at the one from 'Lynda' - 'I feel desperatly sorry for the futres of the youths of today! **** jobs! **** pay! **** over priced existance!
Where will it all END?? I will tell you! The same place as the financial marked!
When society crashes too, thats when the despondant people born of this Nation will take NO MORE! They will react in the only way left REVALOUTION!!'

FB.....get ya red pen out girl. lol

Why is it that people leave school nowadays without the ability to read and write proper like?
Or be able to do simple sums, without the need of a calcualator? God help the future. :lol:
I have heard that this guy is looking for a bigger telly, as he is moaning a 50in one is too small for his LARGE living room. :sparring: :lol: