Bareback, or condoms, what are your honest opinions?

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
My view is that if a person does not respect themselves enough to protect their health (as far as possible), then sure as hell, they aint going to worry about protecting me.

I don't believe that's necessarily a written in stone truism, but I agree that it's analogous to the "treat every other driver as an idiot and you'll be a safer driver" and is a 'better safe than sorry' way to think about things.

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Peanut
My view is that if a person does not respect themselves enough to protect their health (as far as possible), then sure as hell, they aint going to worry about protecting me.

I don't believe that's necessarily a written in stone truism, but I agree that it's analogous to the "treat every other driver as an idiot and you'll be a safer driver" and is a 'better safe than sorry' way to think about things.
eh ? blink

31 Aug 2008

Quote by splendid_
My view is that if a person does not respect themselves enough to protect their health (as far as possible), then sure as hell, they aint going to worry about protecting me.

I don't believe that's necessarily a written in stone truism, but I agree that it's analogous to the "treat every other driver as an idiot and you'll be a safer driver" and is a 'better safe than sorry' way to think about things.
eh ? blink

Sun reader translation: evil

No I don't think it's true, but I do think it's a safe mantra nonetheless.

31 Aug 2008

Quote by sparky33
Translate for a Beano reader please :twisted:

No problem:
Go back to bed, you're far too young to hear things like this.

31 Aug 2008

Peanut

stop using big words.
I cant sat that it is the case for everyone, but I do think that if a person is not bothered about protecting their own health, then it is very unlikely they would actually be bothered about protecting me.
In an ideal world condoms would not be necessary, but it is not an ideal world and I dont want risk the rest of my life for 30 minutes of fun (ok, probably more like 10 minutes if you include the foreplay and after-sex-smoke) wink

Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

31 Aug 2008

The one thing in clubs that always surprises me no end is the amount of single guys who go to clubs without condoms.... and then when they get knocked back have the audacity to ask if anyone else has them...
isn't "being prepard" one of those things that should come naturally... for example, if you saw the forecast was going to rain, you wouldn't really go out without a brolly.......
but to bring it back to the conversation at hand..... I wouldn't think about playing without condoms.... and condoms is more about protecting myself.... no one else is going to look out for me......

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

Sorry to chop up your post NWC... but that bit covers it for me. And yes... when people post that they'd rather shag without, that saves both my time and theirs doing the whole PM thing! :mrgreen:

31 Aug 2008

well rather fittingly for the fact that this tread is running it was brought to my attention tonight that some1 i know from a chat room has been diagnosed HIV positive and has worked her way through a few members bareback i would never mention names not just cause i'd get banned but also as this could all just b gossip
i was truelly gobsmacked to hear this as some of those supposed to of had thier fun unprotected with her are peeps i actually know and truelly thought had way more common sense not to it has left me in real shock
i just can't get my head round y anybody in this day n age knowing what we know would wish to put themselves at risk its just crazy and beyond my comprehension
i have noticed that no1 has posted that they prefer without and tried to argue thier corner so they must know how stupid they are being
the best of it is the said woman has posted it on her msn greeting i mean wtf wat a way to tell peeps classy lady eh
i can't get over just how many peeps i have found out that i know that take thise risks and trust me i will b taking them to task over it
i got to b honest though i really am hoping that this is all just gossip n i'll find out in a few days that none of it is true
totally gob smacked

31 Aug 2008

Quote by bouncy332
well rather fittingly for the fact that this tread is running it was brought to my attention tonight that some1 i know from a chat room has been diagnosed HIV positive and has worked her way through a few members bareback i would never mention names not just cause i'd get banned but also as this could all just b gossip
i was truelly gobsmacked to hear this as some of those supposed to of had thier fun unprotected with her are peeps i actually know and truelly thought had way more common sense not to it has left me in real shock
i just can't get my head round y anybody in this day n age knowing what we know would wish to put themselves at risk its just crazy and beyond my comprehension
i have noticed that no1 has posted that they prefer without and tried to argue thier corner so they must know how stupid they are being
the best of it is the said woman has posted it on her msn greeting i mean wtf wat a way to tell peeps classy lady eh
i can't get over just how many peeps i have found out that i know that take thise risks and trust me i will b taking them to task over it
i got to b honest though i really am hoping that this is all just gossip n i'll find out in a few days that none of it is true
totally gob smacked

How can it be gossip if she's put it in her MSN greeting? Or don't you know that for a fact - in which case, why post? confused

Why would you take people to task over what they have done - unless you've played with them and it's affecting you?
And maybe the people who prefer without, haven't posted for fear of being ridiculed or taken to task about what is their choice and the choice of the people who play with them?

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Freckledbird
well rather fittingly for the fact that this tread is running it was brought to my attention tonight that some1 i know from a chat room has been diagnosed HIV positive and has worked her way through a few members bareback i would never mention names not just cause i'd get banned but also as this could all just b gossip
i was truelly gobsmacked to hear this as some of those supposed to of had thier fun unprotected with her are peeps i actually know and truelly thought had way more common sense not to it has left me in real shock
i just can't get my head round y anybody in this day n age knowing what we know would wish to put themselves at risk its just crazy and beyond my comprehension
i have noticed that no1 has posted that they prefer without and tried to argue thier corner so they must know how stupid they are being
the best of it is the said woman has posted it on her msn greeting i mean wtf wat a way to tell peeps classy lady eh
i can't get over just how many peeps i have found out that i know that take thise risks and trust me i will b taking them to task over it
i got to b honest though i really am hoping that this is all just gossip n i'll find out in a few days that none of it is true
totally gob smacked

How can it be gossip if she's put it in her MSN greeting? Or don't you know that for a fact - in which case, why post? confused

Why would you take people to task over what they have done - unless you've played with them and it's affecting you?
And maybe the people who prefer without, haven't posted for fear of being ridiculed or taken to task about what is their choice and the choice of the people who play with them?
i don't know it for fact thats y i said at the start of my post it might just b gossip and i do hope it is but incredibly evil gossip if it is and i posted cause i guess it left me so mind boggled i needed to vent and i thought that was wat the forums were for please forgive me if i got that wrong
and i would take friends to task over it because i care about them and thier health just as i would take a friend to task over something like binge drinkin as it affects thier health
as for those that prefer to play without being in fear of being ridiculed or taken to task i though it was a discussion and felt it would b good to see things from all sides as i feel this is the job of the forum for all opinions to be aired and then those reading get the opportunity to form new oppinions of thier own
omg could this b my first heated exchange on here not had one of those yet please let me know if it is this is fun lol

31 Aug 2008

Quote by bouncy332
i don't know it for fact thats y i said at the start of my post it might just b gossip and i do hope it is but incredibly evil gossip if it is and i posted cause i guess it left me so mind boggled i needed to vent and i thought that was wat the forums were for please forgive me if i got that wrong
and i would take friends to task over it because i care about them and thier health just as i would take a friend to task over something like binge drinkin as it affects thier health
as for those that prefer to play without being in fear of being ridiculed or taken to task i though it was a discussion and felt it would b good to see things from all sides as i feel this is the job of the forum for all opinions to be aired and then those reading get the opportunity to form new oppinions of thier own
omg could this b my first heated exchange on here not had one of those yet please let me know if it is this is fun

You're not getting a heated exchange from me confused

And you can't call people stupid for their personal choices.
FB walks away.

31 Aug 2008

well have an update already some1 more in the know just mailed me and told me it was all awfull gossip the poor girl concerned had her puter hacked and has unvolved the police she must b going through hell there r some very evil peeps out there so i hope it has been a wake up call to her in a way so she might value her health more and start playing safe
but it sure has highlighted for me even more the need for condoms especially now i know how many of my friends play bareback

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Freckledbird

i don't know it for fact thats y i said at the start of my post it might just b gossip and i do hope it is but incredibly evil gossip if it is and i posted cause i guess it left me so mind boggled i needed to vent and i thought that was wat the forums were for please forgive me if i got that wrong
and i would take friends to task over it because i care about them and thier health just as i would take a friend to task over something like binge drinkin as it affects thier health
as for those that prefer to play without being in fear of being ridiculed or taken to task i though it was a discussion and felt it would b good to see things from all sides as i feel this is the job of the forum for all opinions to be aired and then those reading get the opportunity to form new oppinions of thier own
omg could this b my first heated exchange on here not had one of those yet please let me know if it is this is fun

You're not getting a heated exchange from me confused

And you can't call people stupid for their personal choices.
FB walks away.
is it not oh well there goes my judgement then damn :lol: will i never have one wink

31 Aug 2008

Quote by bouncy332
well have an update already some1 more in the know just mailed me and told me it was all awfull gossip the poor girl concerned had her puter hacked and has unvolved the police she must b going through hell there r some very evil peeps out there so i hope it has been a wake up call to her in a way so she might value her health more and start playing safe
but it sure has highlighted for me even more the need for condoms especially now i know how many of my friends play bareback

At this moment in time I'd say she had more of a problem with computer security rather than going bareback or not!
But for all those pious condom users... please don't get too complacent, they aren't 100% for birth control and they are even less effective for infection control.
For example, you give a guy a handjob as a warm up. His pre-cum gets on your fingers, you then play with yourself.
End result several million bacteria/virii have just transferred themselves from his dick to your pussy. Wearing a condom afterwards is akin to locking the stable door after the zebra's fucked off with his mate the organ-utan to the local boozer.
So in other words, don't get cocky just because you wear condoms.

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Lost
Bouncy your post scares the living shit out of me for the sake of other people. I'm not so certain that the post doesn't cut it close as to scaremongering whether factual or not but its there now lets hope people learn from these sort of issues.
I believe that if someones preventable. personal choice not to employ condoms have a knock on and possibly detrimental effect on an innocent party? Then stupid would be an Ok word to use I think.
God only hope these people are OK. How absolutely devastating for them :sad:
Does anyone know if there is any decent sex software for Nintendo Wii : its got to come surely?

Selfish, uncaring, ignorant, blase are all more appropriate than "stupid". "Stupid" suggests that they don't know.
Likewise "stupid" can also be used for people who do wear condoms because they think they're totally safe. They aren't, all they are doing is reducing the odds. And the problem with odds is that the more you do something the more likely you'll lose.

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Peanut
Bouncy your post scares the living shit out of me for the sake of other people. I'm not so certain that the post doesn't cut it close as to scaremongering whether factual or not but its there now lets hope people learn from these sort of issues.
I believe that if someones preventable. personal choice not to employ condoms have a knock on and possibly detrimental effect on an innocent party? Then stupid would be an Ok word to use I think.
God only hope these people are OK. How absolutely devastating for them :sad:
Does anyone know if there is any decent sex software for Nintendo Wii : its got to come surely?

Selfish, uncaring, ignorant, blase are all more appropriate than "stupid". "Stupid" suggests that they don't know.
Likewise "stupid" can also be used for people who do wear condoms because they think they're totally safe. They aren't, all they are doing is reducing the odds. And the problem with odds is that the more you do something the more likely you'll lose.
first off totally agree hun
but secondly i got missin posts can only find losts post on your quote wtf is goin on :shock:

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Peanut
Bouncy your post scares the living shit out of me for the sake of other people. I'm not so certain that the post doesn't cut it close as to scaremongering whether factual or not but its there now lets hope people learn from these sort of issues.
I believe that if someones preventable. personal choice not to employ condoms have a knock on and possibly detrimental effect on an innocent party? Then stupid would be an Ok word to use I think.
God only hope these people are OK. How absolutely devastating for them :sad:
Does anyone know if there is any decent sex software for Nintendo Wii : its got to come surely?

Selfish, uncaring, ignorant, blase are all more appropriate than "stupid". "Stupid" suggests that they don't know.
Likewise "stupid" can also be used for people who do wear condoms because they think they're totally safe. They aren't, all they are doing is reducing the odds. And the problem with odds is that the more you do something the more likely you'll lose.
Making an attempt at responsibility is a good thing

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Peanut stop using big words.
I cant sat that it is the case for everyone, but I do think that if a person is not bothered about protecting their own health, then it is very unlikely they would actually be bothered about protecting me.
In an ideal world condoms would not be necessary, but it is not an ideal world and I dont want risk the rest of my life for 30 minutes of fun (ok, probably more like 10 minutes if you include the foreplay and after-sex-smoke)
Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

Its much better to use big words as us Sun readers cannot understand! lol

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Lost
Bouncy your post scares the living shit out of me for the sake of other people. I'm not so certain that the post doesn't cut it close as to scaremongering whether factual or not but its there now lets hope people learn from these sort of issues.
I believe that if someones preventable. personal choice not to employ condoms have a knock on and possibly detrimental effect on an innocent party? Then stupid would be an Ok word to use I think.
God only hope these people are OK. How absolutely devastating for them :sad:
Does anyone know if there is any decent sex software for Nintendo Wii : its got to come surely?

Selfish, uncaring, ignorant, blase are all more appropriate than "stupid". "Stupid" suggests that they don't know.
Likewise "stupid" can also be used for people who do wear condoms because they think they're totally safe. They aren't, all they are doing is reducing the odds. And the problem with odds is that the more you do something the more likely you'll lose.
Making an attempt at responsibility is a good thing
It all depends on whether that's all you think you have to do.
You make it sound like it's a marks out of 10 sort of thing. Sorry to burst your bubble but virii don't count and they really don't give a shit about attempts at responsibility.

31 Aug 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Peanut stop using big words.
I cant sat that it is the case for everyone, but I do think that if a person is not bothered about protecting their own health, then it is very unlikely they would actually be bothered about protecting me.
In an ideal world condoms would not be necessary, but it is not an ideal world and I dont want risk the rest of my life for 30 minutes of fun (ok, probably more like 10 minutes if you include the foreplay and after-sex-smoke)
Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

Its much better to use big words as us Sun readers cannot understand! lol

Just one of lots of things I gather :P

31 Aug 2008

Quote by Peanut
Peanut stop using big words.
I cant sat that it is the case for everyone, but I do think that if a person is not bothered about protecting their own health, then it is very unlikely they would actually be bothered about protecting me.
In an ideal world condoms would not be necessary, but it is not an ideal world and I dont want risk the rest of my life for 30 minutes of fun (ok, probably more like 10 minutes if you include the foreplay and after-sex-smoke)
Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

Its much better to use big words as us Sun readers cannot understand! lol

: Just one of lots of things I gather :P

31 Aug 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Peanut stop using big words.
I cant sat that it is the case for everyone, but I do think that if a person is not bothered about protecting their own health, then it is very unlikely they would actually be bothered about protecting me.
In an ideal world condoms would not be necessary, but it is not an ideal world and I dont want risk the rest of my life for 30 minutes of fun (ok, probably more like 10 minutes if you include the foreplay and after-sex-smoke)
Each to their own, and who am I to judge, but definately not my thing and I will not play with anyone who I know takes the risk.

Its much better to use big words as us Sun readers cannot understand! lol

: Just one of lots of things I gather :P
Well that's one more :P

31 Aug 2008

Quote by bouncy332
but secondly i got missin posts can only find losts post on your quote wtf is goin on :shock:

Nothing untoward is going on bouncy - i managed to delete my post having an educated guess what would be the result of it and thought it better to just not bother posting but Peanut must have already been putting his reply to my quote up. Net result my post got deleted on the thread but not on peanuts post. Just goes to show i should of not hit that 'submit' button so readily :sad:

1 Sep 2008

Quote by duncanlondon
Do you really check out your prospective partners, and to what extent can that be done? Did you really check out your current partner before doing bareback? For many the answer is obvious, no you didn't really check yourselves out.

I love to fuck bareback but I will never swing bareback!
If I have a regular swing/fuck then matters regarding sexual health must be discussed before any mutual barebacking will take place!
I've sat in a few G.U.M clinics all over London with four fuck buddies so far.
I get a regular checkup every six months without fail& I will include any current partners I am with in the process.
I do not play until the results are known to us both/all & even then it's a face to face chat if my partners wish to bareback & going bareback will never be my suggestion!
Going bareback is fun & spontaneous coz when the mood takes you it's baton down the hatches hold on to yer wig coz I'm cummin in!
I ain't gonna put my life or anyone else's for a bit o fun!
I wont fuck without without that knowledge my fuck buddy is taking the same precuation!
Someone else hit the nail on the head with an earlier posting...
STD's do exist at the back of the throat!
after checking some sexual health advice sites it's not clear cut if STD's can still be passed on through oral sex
:shock: FFS!!! how did it get there in the first place!!! :doh:
If you wanna swing... gangbang... fuck... or be exclusive to one partner... DO THE RIGHT BLOODY THING & GET YOURSELVES CHECKED OUT AT A GUM CLINIC & MAKE IT A REGULAR THING!

1 Sep 2008

Quote by redpantherman
Do you really check out your prospective partners, and to what extent can that be done? Did you really check out your current partner before doing bareback? For many the answer is obvious, no you didn't really check yourselves out.

I love to fuck bareback but I will never swing bareback!
If I have a regular swing/fuck then matters regarding sexual health must be discussed before any mutual barebacking will take place!
I've sat in a few G.U.M clinics all over London with four fuck buddies so far.
I get a regular checkup every six months without fail& I will include any current partners I am with in the process.
I do not play until the results are known to us both/all & even then it's a face to face chat if my partners wish to bareback & going bareback will never be my suggestion!
Going bareback is fun & spontaneous coz when the mood takes you it's baton down the hatches hold on to yer wig coz I'm cummin in!
I ain't gonna put my life or anyone else's for a bit o fun!
I wont fuck without without that knowledge my fuck buddy is taking the same precuation!
Someone else hit the nail on the head with an earlier posting...
STD's do exist at the back of the throat!
after checking some sexual health advice sites it's not clear cut if STD's can still be passed on through oral sex
:shock: FFS!!! how did it get there in the first place!!! :doh:
If you wanna swing... gangbang... fuck... or be exclusive to one partner... DO THE RIGHT BLOODY THING & GET YOURSELVES CHECKED OUT AT A GUM CLINIC & MAKE IT A REGULAR THING!
You are right RPM. New partners wishing to bareback all need to trot down to the clinic en-masse and get tests done.
This doesn't relate to you and/or your posting RPM
Perhaps sex clubs should have something similar to the rave clubs in Europe. There is a testing station in some clubs, for anyone wishing to verify the safety of the drugs before taking them.
This particular topic is somewhat notorious for talking around the subject.
Its all very well to say that people are going to clubs and indulging in bareback. But is this giving licence to the fact?
Is there any difference in standing by whilst someone is stabbed to death and knowing that an infected person is passing on a disease? Its marginally arguable but virtually equivalent.
Is anyone going to apprehend barebackers in a club and enquire whether or not they have been checked? Highly unlikely. So it looks like it an 'every man for himself' situation.

1 Sep 2008

Hmmm... I see no reason to 'apprehend' anyone who choses to bareback in a club or on this site.
We're all adults & we all have a choice & as such I will respect anyones choice to bareback with a stranger.
My choice is to wear a condom with a stranger in a club or with someone I knew on this site.
It will never be my choice to suggest to anyone that I will not wear a condom.
It's my choice to make an informed decision & act accordingly.
I would expect anyone to respect my choice & therefore I will respect theirs.
& that's my honest opinion! smile

1 Sep 2008

I'm surprised at the number of bareback or nothing votes, no way would I miss out rather do it without.
Yes, always without fail. 73%
I'm not fussy, it depends on the wishes of the playmate. 20%
If it's insisted upon, I'd rather not play, it's bareback or nothing. 6%
You need to remember that not everyone actually posts what they really think!!!
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

1 Sep 2008

Quote by flower411
Hmmm... I see no reason to 'apprehend' anyone who choses to bareback in a club or on this site.
We're all adults & we all have a choice & as such I will respect anyones choice to bareback with a stranger.
My choice is to wear a condom with a stranger in a club or with someone I knew on this site.
It will never be my choice to suggest to anyone that I will not wear a condom.
It's my choice to make an informed decision & act accordingly.
I would expect anyone to respect my choice & therefore I will respect theirs.
& that's my honest opinion!

I think the point some people are trying to make is that it is possible that somebody who barebacks with strangers may well meet with people who insist on the use of condoms......If they have been barebacking they have increased their chances of picking up infection.
As we all know, condoms are only a precaution that reduce the risk .....none of us knows by how much !! ....
It`s like wearing a seat belt .....it doesn`t guarantee survival but in certain situations may well save your life ...
So ....if anybody suggests barebacking to us ...they are out .. even if we reduce the risk by a tiny amount ......it`s still a reduction !
Swinging is an adult pastime yes?
So let them be adults and make their own minds up.
Your decision is to fuck them off, as is your right. Their decision is to risk themselves and anyone else they partner with. So long as they are up-front about it then as far as I can see they are doing nothing wrong. We all have the right to do what we want with our own bodies.
If they aren't up-front then may their dicks drop off and their anuses (anii?) heal up and develop a lifetime itch... on the inside.

1 Sep 2008

You will notice that I have stripped out this thread from the arguments over wording or punctuation. It doesn't matter if people don't have perfect English skills, most people are here for light-hearted fun!
Just pack it in and don't make me remove the thread completely because that’s becoming a habit that I am not keen on mad

1 Sep 2008

Good call Dawnie :thumbup:
I think in an ideal world if all involved in BB sex were to admit that then fair play then it would be a choice thing. However I don't believe that an ideal world exists and that there are liars and cheats. Given that there are such about I still believe that for someone somewhere it isn't going to be a choice.
I think flower put a good spin on the safety thing with the seat belt analogy. Sounds like sense to me.

Condoms, do you insist upon their use?