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Quote by Lonni
The whole point is that I believe George is guilty

You keep saying that but can't come up with one shred of evidence for it.
Do you know that you could be potentially putting yourself and more importantly, this site at risk by repeatedly libelling Barry George? If he decided to sue you and SH for damages you would have to prove in court that he was guilty of Jill Dando's murder.
You wouldn't look so clever then!
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(And answer the question. What have you got against clever lawyers?)
I suggest you have a peep at my signature! It clearly states these are my opinions. That's all it is..an opinion. We are still allowed to have opinions in this country.
If that was the case then he would have to sue a lot of people including the police officer who was second in command on the case. :shock: Or go onto the Sun newspaper forum, blimey there are hundreds there with more to say than I have. dunno
Oh another question. Clever lawyers. They are the ones that can twist witnesses around to the point they don't even know their own course that can work both ways, on the prosecutor and the defence teams. It's their job to do that. I have nothing against lawyers at all.
Quote by kentswingers777
I suggest you have a peep at my signature! It clearly states these are my opinions. That's all it is..an opinion.

Why is it that those who bang on and on about law and order seem to know less about law and the judicial system than anyone else?
Go read the libel laws and in particular the liability of Internet Service Providers.
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Quote by Lonni
The whole point is that I believe George is guilty

You keep saying that but can't come up with one shred of evidence for it.
Do you know that you could be potentially putting yourself and more importantly, this site at risk by repeatedly libelling Barry George? If he decided to sue you and SH for damages you would have to prove in court that he was guilty of Jill Dando's murder.
You wouldn't look so clever then!
L
(And answer the question. What have you got against clever lawyers?)
How on earth can anyone who is stating their own opinion and I quote "The whole point is that I believe George is guilty" be making libellous comments? That is their opinion. They are not saying it is fact, they are not making any accusation, they are merely stating THEIR opinion on something.
I personally believe that there shouldnt be a monarchy in this country, does that mean I am libelling the Queen? Committing treason? Breaking any law? No, that would be silly to even suggest it. As it is silly to suggest, in MY opinion, that the site would called upon to PROVE Barry George is guilty because of the opinion stated in an open forum of one of its members!
An opinion, without accusation or prejudice, is just that.......an opinion! A personal opinion at that.
Right, back off my box smile
Quote by Shrek2
How on earth can anyone who is stating their own opinion and I quote "The whole point is that I believe George is guilty" be making libellous comments?

Because the law says they are.
If I stated in public (and yes, this forum is a public arena) that in my opinion Shrek2 is a and fiddles with kids you would be quite within your rights (and the law) to sue me for defamation of your character.
My defence would be either that I had never said it in the first place (difficult, as all posts are kept on a server somewhere) or that in fact you were a .
Where on earth do people get this idea that saying 'this is only my opinion' will absolve them and this website from a writ of libel?
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and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......
Quote by Shrek2
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

I give up! rolleyes
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Good lord looks like a bloodbath in here....
Quote by Phuckers
Good lord looks like a bloodbath in here....

See what you started? lol
Quote by kentswingers777
Good lord looks like a bloodbath in here....

See what you started? lol
Evening kent777 hope you had a nice day!
Quote by Phuckers
Good lord looks like a bloodbath in here....

See what you started? lol
Evening kent777 hope you had a nice day!
It was smashing ta. :lol: Never better.
Quote by Lonni
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

I give up! rolleyes
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Are you a Barrister?
Quote by Shrek2
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

Just because you believe it does not make it the truth. I don't agree with Lonni on a lot of things, but in this instance he's correct I'm afraid. The laws of libel are quite clear on this.
Quote by Peanut
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

Just because you believe it does not make it the truth. I don't agree with Lonni on a lot of things, but in this instance he's correct I'm afraid. The laws of libel are quite clear on this.
Well he will have the money soon to sue, he is more than welcome to try. But think he may well want to sue others who have made far worse statements that I have. Along with others things I also have no right of an opinion now. I refere you to my holidays in the UK thread. No wonder I want out. lol
As for libel things others should read other forums where it could be construed that deflamatory things have been said about others. If they decided to sue on every aspect that people thought was libel, you would have to build another thousand courts to deal with it all.
To be honest am seriously thinking of not posting on here no more as if I am not allowed an opinion what is the point? dunno Also I think enough has been said on this subject from me anyway, so am going to tape my hands up so I cannot type anymore. sad
Quote by helnheaven
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

I give up! rolleyes
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Are you a Barrister?
I've wondered that a few times, reading this thread!
well i'm sure with the money this creep will get...yes thats right CREEP!!...he will get back into his old ways ,stalking some blond bit!...in my opinion!
Quote by kentswingers777
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

Just because you believe it does not make it the truth. I don't agree with Lonni on a lot of things, but in this instance he's correct I'm afraid. The laws of libel are quite clear on this.
Well he will have the money soon to sue, he is more than welcome to try. But think he may well want to sue others who have made far worse statements that I have. Along with others things I also have no right of an opinion now. I refere you to my holidays in the UK thread. No wonder I want out. lol
As for libel things others should read other forums where it could be construed that deflamatory things have been said about others. If they decided to sue on every aspect that people thought was libel, you would have to build another thousand courts to deal with it all.
To be honest am seriously thinking of not posting on here no more as if I am not allowed an opinion what is the point? dunno Also I think enough has been said on this subject from me anyway, so am going to tape my hands up so I cannot type anymore.
sad
remember those clever lawyers you've been talking about...yes thats how they make their money,they can arrange 100 court cases a day
stop being a drama queen(king)you are responsible for everything you say, this is a public forum so you must be in a position to support and give evidence to everything you say about someone if asked in court...read SH rules again if you may!
Quote by kentswingers777
and it is MY belief that the law deals with facts...not opinions.......

Just because you believe it does not make it the truth. I don't agree with Lonni on a lot of things, but in this instance he's correct I'm afraid. The laws of libel are quite clear on this.
Well he will have the money soon to sue, he is more than welcome to try. But think he may well want to sue others who have made far worse statements that I have. Along with others things I also have no right of an opinion now. I refere you to my holidays in the UK thread. No wonder I want out. lol
As for libel things others should read other forums where it could be construed that deflamatory things have been said about others. If they decided to sue on every aspect that people thought was libel, you would have to build another thousand courts to deal with it all.
To be honest am seriously thinking of not posting on here no more as if I am not allowed an opinion what is the point? dunno Also I think enough has been said on this subject from me anyway, so am going to tape my hands up so I cannot type anymore. sad
The whole point, which you have spectacularly missed in the heat of your flounce, is that there is a very distinct difference in your right to having your opinion and your right to publish it.
Just because you prefix it with "I believe" does not make it any less of an accusation.
Yes okay the chances of you actually being sued is minimal to non-existence, but that doesn't detract from the fact that you are breaking the law.
Frankly I don't really care if you do or you don't but the fact that you are blase about it relative to other comments you have made in other threads could lead others to surmise that you ebb and flow with the tide so's to speak.
Quote by kentswingers777
so am going to tape my hands up so I cannot type anymore. sad

:shock:
Ya didnt mention you are into bondage :twisted:
what ever happend freedom of speech no wonder this country's gone mad...
Quote by Crazydimond
what ever happend freedom of speech no wonder this country's gone mad...

What makes you think we've ever had freedom of speech?
It's a myth.