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Time for bed said Zebedee.
When I started this thread I never meant things to go this far .
All I was trying to do was point out that some people ( a very small minority) where committing overt sexual acts in toilets on dance floors and in stare wells .
I had heard about and seen some of this at the last two munches I went to .it didn’t so much shock me as iv been her for some time now . it just made me think what would other people think of use if they saw this? Swinging , from what I can tell in the vanilla community has a bad name .so newbies who where maybe trying out the scene and bar staff who had to be there where not seeing the best side of us .
I never wanted this thread to tern into an argument .
And least of all to have a thread pulled because of me just trying to point something out
I feel gutted that I have started this and im sorry for all the upset and raised voices iv coursed with this but I truly believed something had to be said about “ overt sexual behaviour “ not the boob or bum flashing which has now been dragged in . I was just trying to help that’s all
Phoenix i am truly sorry about your thread being pulled that was the last thing i wanted to happen :cry:
well its finally arrived....SH has gone Politically Correct!
For me the photo thread shouldn't have been taken off.
I know people would contact Phoenix asking him to take pics of them in raunchy poses. Everyone knew he was safe and respectful. For an adult site I thought he struck the right level. It was fun and people got to know each other more. But hey ho ... I think the community has chucked something good away through over reaction.
Just my opinion. Shame really cause I know of all people the amount of time Phoenix put into the threads with no personal gain for himself other than the pleasure of doing it and to cover his own shyness originally at Munches and Socials.
Well .. its the peoples lose DD
This thread was started to decide what was considered appropriate behaviour at a Munch....after some incidents that have occurred at a couple of munches of late...it somehow got out of control...thats an understatement....now i believe all common sense went out of the window when a thread that was started as abit of fun and non offensive...we all know the one has it has now been removed and more than likely deleted....so is it now inappropriate behaviour to go to a munch in a top that show's your cleavage or a skirt that show's a stocking top....now what the hell has that got to do with certain idiots performing sex acts or unwelcome groping....which this thread was really about?
Firstly the comments about ‘prudes’ etc – you don’t have to be a prude to understand there is a time and a place for certain behaviour… it is actually more about dignity, respect and decorum.
No, there is no harm (on the face of it) in a bit of breast flashing. However, I find it laughable that the examples used to justify munches being the appropriate place to flash ones jugs are reasons such as;
Drunken teenagers do it in nightclubs – well lots of other things happen in nightclubs too, but you wouldn’t want the fighting, drug taking, vomiting, glassings to also be happening at a munch.
You see tits in the tabloids – yes and you also see stories about swingers being depraved moral-lacking freaks… which usually results in an uproar on here about how wrongly swingers are represented by the press – yet now the tabloids are being used as an example of social/moral values for swingers to follow.
Munches are not nightclubs, beaches or newspapers – they are meant to be a relaxed, non-pressure social environment… more in keeping with gathering in a local pub than a cattle market style nightclub – but I didn’t see anyone saying they see tits being flashed all the time in their local Beefeater.
I don’t think I have expressed whether or not I am personally offended by flashing… but I will express that I know some people are made to feel uncomfortable by it. Not all swingers are exhibitionists and people will have varying standards of social etiquette.
Regardless of what my personal opinions on tit flashing are – what does it really say about people if they feel they can’t go out for a sociable drink without needing to have a clause written into a rule so they will be able to get their tits out? I do not proclaim to be an angel, but I don’t think people quite understand what it is they are saying when they claim that stopping tit flashing because of the behaviour of a small minority will spoil it for everyone – are you really saying that you can’t have a good night without someone flashing?
People have said the rule is clear enough and we are all adult enough to know where the line should be drawn… which kind of contradicts what is also being said by other people and the very reason for this thread… it is pretty obvious people don’t know where to draw the line. Behaviour breads behaviour.
It is not about labelling anyone who had a laugh in the past – it is about what is right for the future. It is about making munches a pleasant environment for everyone… not most, some, a few or those who don’t mind…. everyone. It is about not what we as individuals want or what we do and don’t find acceptable – but setting a clear standard for everyone to follow. Munches where once considered a major event if 40-50 people turned up, they have gone well beyond that now. Personally, for the sake of clarity, I think for the future it would be much simpler if there were no exceptions… No Flashing anything. Then there is no room for arguments on what was a flash and what was a parade. No one will need to worry about alcohol getting the better of them and effecting their judgement (as has been suggested as a cause) and nobody will get the wrong impression.
If munches are going to become so PC in future, that only behavior found in your local pub/family pub is tolerated -
That means no skimpy outfits, no flashing, no discreet (and consenting) groping of each other etc etc it also means that there is to be no snogging of other peoples partners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After all this is NOT acceptable behavior in your local pub, therefore if we are to go down that route it is NOT acceptable behavior at a munch.
I suppose a discreet peck on the cheek and a quick hug is the only thing that is PC
I hope the current and any future munch organizers can run munches of this basis, as there will be more people policing the events than attending to be able to keep up with it all.
) I was still very discrete in my actions.
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