I class my sexuality as straight. I'm certain I am not homosexual.
By my idea of what bi-sexuality is, I'm sure I am not that either.
What I do increasingly find is that I am quite curious to know what another mans body feels like to touch. Primarily the genitals if I'm honest.
I don't wish to be doing this alone with another man, but more of a group situation.
ie. with a male-female couple where it was not the main focus of the activity
So, I'm I bi-curious or just plain curious. Perhaps I am "Straight-Curious".
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Sex God
In my book your bi curious, others will say different. People will say what does it matter? which is true, but by definition in my book your bi curious. I find this quite easy for me others find it more complicated. I dont feel the urge to have any sexual contact with other men, I class myself straight 
Main thing is dont worry about it and do whatever you want
Main thing is dont worry about it and do whatever you want
Sex God
How about hetero-flexible?
Or bi-comfy?
Or, my own favourite, situationally bi?
Or bi-comfy?
Or, my own favourite, situationally bi?
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I kinda got the T shirt on this one.
I describe myself as BI not because of what I do or what I intend to do but because of what I feel comfortable with the thought of doing.
I warn ya tho the words bi curious or bi on a male profile does put some folk off.
add it and be damned..
on a plus point ..we find all the best people are damned with us and its one hell of a party down here!
Bi curious male .. someone that is unsure of their sexuality in one or more ways pertaining to play with another male, its not a limit on your sexual activities, in my book, although to many that will happily suck cock but not get fucked they say they are bi curious.. how odd .. to me thats as bi as mr bi the cock sucking Mayor of BI ville..
fucking labels eh who needs em.
DO WHAT MOST BLOKES DO SAY THEY ARE STRAIGHT ON THEIR PROFILE AND NEVER ADMIT ANYTHING IN A CHAT ROOM :cool:
Sex God
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How about hetero-flexible?
Or bi-comfy?
Or, my own favourite, situationally bi?
We have been here before.
how about, 'don't know my own mind'?
Sex God
My take is that all sexuality is a continuum :thumbup:
Sex God
You know, as a bisexual man who struggled for years with his own latent homosexuality, bi-curiosity, whatever you wanna call it, suffered some of the consequences of other people's homophobia on more than one occasion, and only recently came to full acceptance of it relatively speaking, I wonder sometimes if the whole issue of labels and explanations along the lines of sexuality as some sort of continuum is an unnecessary abstraction that actually serves to reinforce negative attitudes.
The older I get the more I find myself wondering if Behaviourists like Pavlov and Skinner had it right all along, and that trying to put labels on, or bolt subjective mental / emotional models to what are in essence nothing more than conditioned responses to sensory data derived from physical stimuli is stupidly, positively wrong-headed and self-defeating.
What I mean is this. I have here in my possession a quite marvellous suit wot I have just invented that enables me to deprive you of your senses at will. I'm not gonna explain how it works, partly cos it's very, very technical and I wouldn't want to bore you with the details, partly cos it's very, very clever and I don't want Apple to steal the idea and lock it down so you can only use it with their particular proprietary kind of fondle-slab requiring a very expensive download from the App Store. Suffice to say, while wearing it you will not be able to see, hear, smell, touch or taste anything whatsoever, except that which I allow. The bit I'm gonna allow for the purposes of this particular experiment is your cock / clitoris* ((( *Delete as appropriate, obviously. ))) It just so happens that my lovely scientific assistant has a quite unique skill. Through a long and arduous process of scientific research requiring years of study in a Tantric monastery in Tibet, they have acquired the most wonderously dextrous set of chops in the history of oral sex. They can bring even the most flaccid / frigid among you to screaming, pant-wetting, toe-curling, mattress-shredding orgasm in seconds with the merest flick of their tongue if they so choose. You'll note that I haven't told you whether they're male or female yet. It's not all that important for the purposes of this experiment, honestly. It really, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is whether you decide, while wearing this suit being fellated / cunnilingussed ((( sp? ))) to find the experience pleasurable or not. That's all. It's a simple choice for you to make. You can choose to believe whatever makes you most comfortable. Noone need ever know, least of all you yourself if that makes things easier.
There is no, and can be no qualititative difference whatsoever between the mouth of a man and the mouth of a woman when applied to the end of a cock, or curled round a clitoris. That is absolutely, no question or room for doubt or further argument, 100% irrefutable. The only thing that determines whether the experience is pleasurable or not is the choice made along the lines of 'things I enjoy' and 'things I don't enjoy'. I'm sure the world would be a whole lot happier place to live in if we all just accepted that to be the undisputable fact that it is, and let everyone else get on with it. It's just sex. It feels bloody nice.
N x x x ;)
The older I get the more I find myself wondering if Behaviourists like Pavlov and Skinner had it right all along, and that trying to put labels on, or bolt subjective mental / emotional models to what are in essence nothing more than conditioned responses to sensory data derived from physical stimuli is stupidly, positively wrong-headed and self-defeating.
What I mean is this. I have here in my possession a quite marvellous suit wot I have just invented that enables me to deprive you of your senses at will. I'm not gonna explain how it works, partly cos it's very, very technical and I wouldn't want to bore you with the details, partly cos it's very, very clever and I don't want Apple to steal the idea and lock it down so you can only use it with their particular proprietary kind of fondle-slab requiring a very expensive download from the App Store. Suffice to say, while wearing it you will not be able to see, hear, smell, touch or taste anything whatsoever, except that which I allow. The bit I'm gonna allow for the purposes of this particular experiment is your cock / clitoris* ((( *Delete as appropriate, obviously. ))) It just so happens that my lovely scientific assistant has a quite unique skill. Through a long and arduous process of scientific research requiring years of study in a Tantric monastery in Tibet, they have acquired the most wonderously dextrous set of chops in the history of oral sex. They can bring even the most flaccid / frigid among you to screaming, pant-wetting, toe-curling, mattress-shredding orgasm in seconds with the merest flick of their tongue if they so choose. You'll note that I haven't told you whether they're male or female yet. It's not all that important for the purposes of this experiment, honestly. It really, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is whether you decide, while wearing this suit being fellated / cunnilingussed ((( sp?
))) to find the experience pleasurable or not. That's all. It's a simple choice for you to make. You can choose to believe whatever makes you most comfortable. Noone need ever know, least of all you yourself if that makes things easier. There is no, and can be no qualititative difference whatsoever between the mouth of a man and the mouth of a woman when applied to the end of a cock, or curled round a clitoris. That is absolutely, no question or room for doubt or further argument, 100% irrefutable. The only thing that determines whether the experience is pleasurable or not is the choice made along the lines of 'things I enjoy' and 'things I don't enjoy'. I'm sure the world would be a whole lot happier place to live in if we all just accepted that to be the undisputable fact that it is, and let everyone else get on with it. It's just sex. It feels bloody nice.
N x x x ;)
Sex God
Ahhh Pavlov. Wasn't he the one who experimented with Meringues and food and bells and things.
I guess my interpretation is that sexuality is possibly primordial in origin possibly for the sake of the species. You know sowing the seed in as many females as possible to ensure the continuation of humano humans and through things such as fairymoans given out then possibly on a biologically instinctual level man is drawn towards woman. Obviously historically this was a good thing as we're still here, not saying homosexuality is not good just that it would of been historically of no useful significance. so in essence heterosexuality, going back far enough, was a biological psychological fundamental fact not a choice
So. the species is now assured bar disasters and the need to procreate, in the fashion that once was, is now not the case. It could be that evolution now dictates to us that pleasure through sex is taking on a role that is possibly far more important than procreation, as that can be done using other means, through the conception part and a little beyond now, at least, and who knows how far beyond and how soon even.
We still have the remnants within us of our ancestors, we still have our seperate male and female scents for instance, maybe be that harks back to those times. Maybe this is why some of us don't have a choice in being heterosexual it's what we are biologically programmed to be. Lets face it we're now confronted with different stimuli to activate our sex thought processes. things such as clothing, hairstyles, fashion, body shape, money perfumes, (realising that some of these do have crossovers here btw).
So these unconscious choice things may for some of us be getting blurred or in evolutionary terms unnecessary. This surely bares out that society is now more accepting of different ways of being sexual and or loving than it ever was. OK, still away to go maybe, but developing alongside our human evolution.
I guess my interpretation is that sexuality is possibly primordial in origin possibly for the sake of the species. You know sowing the seed in as many females as possible to ensure the continuation of humano humans and through things such as fairymoans given out then possibly on a biologically instinctual level man is drawn towards woman. Obviously historically this was a good thing as we're still here, not saying homosexuality is not good just that it would of been historically of no useful significance. so in essence heterosexuality, going back far enough, was a biological psychological fundamental fact not a choice
So. the species is now assured bar disasters and the need to procreate, in the fashion that once was, is now not the case. It could be that evolution now dictates to us that pleasure through sex is taking on a role that is possibly far more important than procreation, as that can be done using other means, through the conception part and a little beyond now, at least, and who knows how far beyond and how soon even.
We still have the remnants within us of our ancestors, we still have our seperate male and female scents for instance, maybe be that harks back to those times. Maybe this is why some of us don't have a choice in being heterosexual it's what we are biologically programmed to be. Lets face it we're now confronted with different stimuli to activate our sex thought processes. things such as clothing, hairstyles, fashion, body shape, money perfumes, (realising that some of these do have crossovers here btw).
So these unconscious choice things may for some of us be getting blurred or in evolutionary terms unnecessary. This surely bares out that society is now more accepting of different ways of being sexual and or loving than it ever was. OK, still away to go maybe, but developing alongside our human evolution.
Sex God
Ha haaaaaaa! Thank you Losty for so neatly and eruditely steering the subject round to the very mental trap I wanted to come onto next . . . .
'Oh shit, I haven't have I?' I hear you cry! Sorry, but yes, yes you have.
;)
What you've done there Losty if I may say so is confuse and conflate two entirely distinct and seperate functions in a way that assumes that they are simply two sides of the same coin; part and parcel of one and the same thing. That's in now way a criticism of you Losty, because everyone does it. It seems to be such an obvious and natural truism that the two go hand in hand, inseperably, that we rarely stop to even think about it, or question it. That is wrong IMO.
On the one hand you have the evolutionarily determined biological imperative to reproduce, and the physical, hard-wired mechanisms that enable that purely biological function. I'm thinking cock and balls and sperm and wombs and ova and the mechanical coming together of the various reproductive organs. OTOH there is the learned response to sexual mental and physical stimuli that we find either sexually arousing, or sexually repellant. One is innate to the body and unchanging, the other is a learned response that is fluidly changeable at will! They are not the same thing.
Neil x x x ;)
'Oh shit, I haven't have I?' I hear you cry! Sorry, but yes, yes you have.
;)What you've done there Losty if I may say so is confuse and conflate two entirely distinct and seperate functions in a way that assumes that they are simply two sides of the same coin; part and parcel of one and the same thing. That's in now way a criticism of you Losty, because everyone does it. It seems to be such an obvious and natural truism that the two go hand in hand, inseperably, that we rarely stop to even think about it, or question it. That is wrong IMO.
On the one hand you have the evolutionarily determined biological imperative to reproduce, and the physical, hard-wired mechanisms that enable that purely biological function. I'm thinking cock and balls and sperm and wombs and ova and the mechanical coming together of the various reproductive organs. OTOH there is the learned response to sexual mental and physical stimuli that we find either sexually arousing, or sexually repellant. One is innate to the body and unchanging, the other is a learned response that is fluidly changeable at will! They are not the same thing.
Neil x x x ;)
Sex God
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Ha haaaaaaa! Thank you Losty for so neatly and eruditely steering the subject round to the very mental trap I wanted to come onto next . . . .
'Oh shit, I haven't have I?' I hear you cry! Sorry, but yes, yes you have.
Neil x x x ;)
But but but I haven't necessarily, and i wuvs you neil for your interesting stuff of words. Your point is that it is a learnedresponse and I agree that is but you also omit in your posts how the individual thinks about what is happening when having donned your suit. the stimuli that may help or provide the pleasure one gains from said fellatio or cunnninlinininggus may very well come from the mind not the physical. I for instance would think its a nubile yummy piece of female tartar all pointing and heaving chest aching for me to blow my nectar like splooge down her slender throat. Conversely if I was to have in my mind that a big hairy guy was going gorge himself on my for women only love bat then I'm afraid it would be erectus disappearus quickus. And as is so drummed into us regularly is that the mind is the most important sex organ then how you going to cover that in a suit.
I don't think the two things you allude to being the hard wired response and the learned response are mutually exclusive. Nature nurture, nurture nature maybe. The primordial need to procreate provides the chemicals such as the pheromones exclusive to each sex to trigger mental reactions to then trigger the appropriate physical reaction, sympathetic and parasympathetic blah de blah de blah
As evolution progresses the primal need, as I see it does become less as our species is fantastically successful and the need for purely physical and mental pleasure supersedes that of the need to ensure survival and so the idea of sexuality being one thing or another lessens. Maybe too nothing in the future, we can at least all hope.
What would be an interesting experiment would be too have so said suit donned by a group, albeit let them have the sense of smell remain and then have a control group of males and females bathed n scrubbed and then have them not bath or wash for a control amount of time then said suit wearing individual be allowed to pick out having only the sense of smell someone to administer to them the suggested sexual activities
Master of Sex
The way I look at it is, if you fall in love with someone of your own sex then you are gay. If you don't fall in love with them but simply play with their bits for fun then you're merely randy. Some people enjoy playing with the bits of their own sex, some don't. I don't see any problem with any of these behaviours. People are classification you try and fit people into someone will not fit in tidily. Thanks be to His Noodliness for that.
It can also depend on how far back you consider your sexuality. Most kids will play in a limited sexual way with each other without thinking. This is as and when sex comes about. I can remember it happening several times with both girls and boys.
as teenage approaches our ideas become conditioned. then we make a decision, which in most cases is hetero.
the expression bi curious has gotten about and i think people ae looking for the evidence to fit the theory. we were all curious about hetero and homo sexuality, and many people still are now, more so the younger because of the above. most of us also went through being bi, but conditioned ourselves away from it.
bi curious? not really. just a lot of people reflecting on what they ignored, avoided or missed.
as teenage approaches our ideas become conditioned. then we make a decision, which in most cases is hetero.
the expression bi curious has gotten about and i think people ae looking for the evidence to fit the theory. we were all curious about hetero and homo sexuality, and many people still are now, more so the younger because of the above. most of us also went through being bi, but conditioned ourselves away from it.
bi curious? not really. just a lot of people reflecting on what they ignored, avoided or missed.
Sex God
Quote by capricornten
well as one that was once curious but now no longer would have to say 'don't knock it 'till you've tried it'.
bit like Marmite eh?
Orgasminator
Quote by neilinleeds
You know... (a very good post that sadly had to be cut short) ...it feels bloody nice.
N x x x ;)
Great post neil, but I have one point to make... Stubble lol.
Either way, I'm with you - a good blow job, from either sex is good in my book!
*Him*
Sexpert
For me, personaly, my bisexuality is an important part of my identity. I spent years confused about whether I was straight or gay, and flitted between the two entirely dependent on the gender of whatever partner I was with at the time, and I was miserable. I couldn't tell my straight friends or my gay friends I was bi, because I thought they would just see that as me being undecided or worse - promiscuous.
But I bloody well _am_ promiscuous! And I like boys and I like girls! (I fancy boys slightly more, but like sex with girls slightly more) - but it was YONKS before I could admit - even to myself - that hey - I'm bisexual. Not curious (unless performing oral sex on countless people of all genders counts as curiosity) - bisexual.
The fact I was pissed off when I finally just came out as bi and all my friends were, like, 'Oh, We've all known that for AGES - the gender of your partners over the years kind of gave it away' is my own issue
But I bloody well _am_ promiscuous! And I like boys and I like girls! (I fancy boys slightly more, but like sex with girls slightly more) - but it was YONKS before I could admit - even to myself - that hey - I'm bisexual. Not curious (unless performing oral sex on countless people of all genders counts as curiosity) - bisexual.
The fact I was pissed off when I finally just came out as bi and all my friends were, like, 'Oh, We've all known that for AGES - the gender of your partners over the years kind of gave it away' is my own issue
It's a hard question to answer.
I always considered myself bi-curious until I dabbled, now I'm bi.
Unfortunately some people think being bi is being greedy and being bi your putting both sides at risk.
When I play albeit with either female or a guy, I insist on Safe Sex only.
I wish your adventure well mate.
Paddy
I always considered myself bi-curious until I dabbled, now I'm bi.
Unfortunately some people think being bi is being greedy and being bi your putting both sides at risk.
When I play albeit with either female or a guy, I insist on Safe Sex only.
I wish your adventure well mate.
Paddy
Sex God
Quote by couplefunuk
You know... (a very good post that sadly had to be cut short) ...it feels bloody nice.
N x x x ;)
Great post neil, but I have one point to make... Stubble lol.
Either way, I'm with you - a good blow job, from either sex is good in my book!
*Him*
I'd just like to say thanks very much... I now have a particularly damp image of Nellie and *him* sucking cock!
Marvellous! :rascal:
Warming the Bed
Can I just say that Bi men turn me on.... It don't matter what sexuality you are but how comfortable you are with your sexuality if that makes sense. I have known I was bi when I was at school but did not act on it until I was 30.
I find the whole man on man thing so horny and so free so don't worry what others think but embrace the moment that what feels right is right at that time.. xx
I find the whole man on man thing so horny and so free so don't worry what others think but embrace the moment that what feels right is right at that time.. xx
