Bloody fuel prices.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by Steve

the other thing to take into account when buying fuel is there is different quality Morrison's and sainsburys buy a cheap grade of fuel
during the process of making fuel contaminated fuel raises to the top this is skimmed off and re-refined
this lower grade fuel is then sold cheaply to the likes of sainsburys and Morrison's
who are able to keep prices low

All the supermarkets pull fuel from the same gantry's at the same fuel terminals as the larger fuel companies...
I've spent enough time working @ Kingsbury fuel terminal to know that....
are you sure that's the case for all fuel depot's as problems with fuel a couple of years back only affected morrisons ,asda .and tesco's

an old friend worked at bunsfeild as a refine engineer and always stated the place was a time bomb
but also used to love telling about the refining process and who got what

14 Aug 2010

This contaminated petrol story is fascinating. In some reports tesco published a newspaper apology in others it was a rebuttal. I cant find the newspaper ad or the press release one would expect.
I cant find the results of the reported "trading standards investigation". No reports of compensation being paid are forthcoming. Even my usual internet hoax busting sites are drawing up a blank.
There must be somebody better at this than me who knows the ins and outs.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
This contaminated petrol story is fascinating. In some reports tesco published a newspaper apology in others it was a rebuttal. I cant find the newspaper ad or the press release one would expect.
I cant find the results of the reported "trading standards investigation". No reports of compensation being paid are forthcoming. Even my usual internet hoax busting sites are drawing up a blank.
There must be somebody better at this than me who knows the ins and outs.

try here bengy

even tells you how much they paid out beng
although this is a blog i do believe this was taken from the tesco website at the time
and shortly after this, tesco snuggled up to esso

14 Aug 2010

Thank you, seems genuine enough. The PR dept must have been chuffed it didnt make more of a splash.
So going back to the discussion, do supermarkets use different distribution centres and grades or not. I find this whole thing fascinating.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Whilst out on me bike today I filled up with petrol near to where I live, and it was £113 a litre.
Whilst I was out I noticed a huge difference in the price of fuel depending on the area.
The highest I saw was " 124 a litre which is a huge difference to where I filled up.
Why are the garages charging such a big difference in price?
When it was done in gallons a few years back a difference of 10p a gallon would be deemed a lot, but seeing as there are four and a half litres to a gallon, the difference in price equates to nearly 50p nowadays in the prices I saw today.A huge ammount if you are saying putting in 50 quids worth of fuel.
I cannot help thinking that unless the cost of selling petrol is higher in certain areas,why do some garages charge so much more? Is it simply greed or are there other reasons?

You cant be a capitalist and complain about the market. Garages charge what the customer will pay, as a Thatcherite you should know better. Or are you just another shister complainer who loves to knock anything you dont fully understand. Don't go quoting conservative rhetoric and then complain about the very mechanism that gives them any meaning at all. After all if the conservatives had their way the UK would not have clean water or plumbing, affordable housing, education for all, ladies would not be allowed the vote, stealing a loaf of bread would be a hanging offence, the NHS would not exist and the list goes on. Even a university of life graduate such as yourself "should" be able to read the history books to see how right I am, eventualy, just start with the smaller words like cat, mat and work up,,,, youll get there ,,,, eventualy
Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
Thank you, seems genuine enough. The PR dept must have been chuffed it didnt make more of a splash.
So going back to the discussion, do supermarkets use different distribution centres and grades or not. I find this whole thing fascinating.

there not specifically different grades bengy
bp shell and esso are not the only refiners its a bit like having a free of tie pub
supermarkets are free to buy from where they like (normally the cheapest supplier it is business you know ) and some of the smaller cheaper refineries double refine the waste that the bigger companies discard for other uses
and that is why tesco's morrisons and asda have had problems and the likes of bp shell and esso does not

14 Aug 2010

I had always assumed that petrol had to be a certain quality to be marketed as such.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
I had always assumed that petrol had to be a certain quality to be marketed as such.

it does bengy
as gu points out
All fuel sold in the UK must meet the ISO standards of:-

BS EN 590 Diesel
BS4040 Unleaded Petrol
BS7800 Super Unleaded Petrol

hot food in restaurants like buffets must be kept a certain temperature but if you goggle food poisoning statistics you`ll get a shock
there are many variants of the distilling process from whiskey to petrol all are different
prob best discuss with your local mechanic if he`s any good
all i know is i'm happy to buy the more expensive/quality fuel for my car and would never put supermarket fuel in it

14 Aug 2010

Pays your money and you take yer choice I spose.
The only problem I have encountered with a fuel retailer was down in the SE where a smaller indy was adulterating the diesel with paraffin.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by GnV
Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

Well written GNV. lol

Yes I have voted Labour when Blair was first voted in, so not a complete Tory through and through. A real Tory would never ever ever vote Labour, but I did. So your arguement Islandcpl1 really holds about as much water as a tea cup.

14 Aug 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
.........A real Tory would never ever ever vote Labour..........

A true Tory believes in the values of capitalism, where everything is for sale ........ including, morals, scruples and political persuasions. On that basis I think you can hold your head high next time you happen to walk past the Conservative club. ;) :lol2:
Lets face it, New Labour was pretty much Conservatism with a different coloured bow, that's how they managed to win the election, by seducing Tory voters. Did you realise you'd been seduced by Tony Blair when you voted New Labour? :shock: :giggle:

14 Aug 2010

Quote by easy
Did you realise you'd been seduced by Tony Blair when you voted New Labour?

Seduced? No I do not think so.
I was sick and tired of years of Tory spin and blatant lies and general bollox.
Then I voted for what looked to be someone fresh in Tony Blair. They called it New Labour when in reality it was the same old tale but with different spin attached.
We all now know what he did to this country, now he is roaming the world as a fucking peace envoy ffs. Of all the jobs I would have thought he would not be given, and there he is bold as shite. One day that smug grin will be wiped off his ugly mug.
As has been said all the parties are the same, with a few little tiny differences.
I for one think that Cameron is a decent geezer to be honest but time will tell if he is also full of shite.
IF he gets the scroungers out of bed and back into work, and reforms the welfare system, from hot and cold running benefits to making people earn their way, then my vote will certainly have been worth the X next to the Tory box, as under New Labour it was going from shite to abysmal.

15 Aug 2010

Quote by GnV
Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

To be fair it wasn't as if they leapt at the chance to give women an equal say ......there was as I remember a certain amount of pressure applied by certain parties

16 Aug 2010

Regardless of that....equal rights they got.

16 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
hot food in restaurants like buffets must be kept a certain temperature but if you goggle food poisoning statistics you`ll get a shock

Is hot-holding the main source of food poisoning then?
Dave_Notts

16 Aug 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB

Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

To be fair it wasn't as if they leapt at the chance to give women an equal say ......there was as I remember a certain amount of pressure applied by certain parties
You remember the pressure being applied when the The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 was introduced?
I had no idea of your age, for someone to have lived through so much history that I have only read about, is wonderful.
You have my respect.

16 Aug 2010

Quote by essex34m

Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

To be fair it wasn't as if they leapt at the chance to give women an equal say ......there was as I remember a certain amount of pressure applied by certain parties
You remember the pressure being applied when the The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 was introduced?
I had no idea of your age, for someone to have lived through so much history that I have only read about, is wonderful.
You have my respect.
I have a large blue box in my spare room

16 Aug 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB

Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

To be fair it wasn't as if they leapt at the chance to give women an equal say ......there was as I remember a certain amount of pressure applied by certain parties
You remember the pressure being applied when the The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 was introduced?
I had no idea of your age, for someone to have lived through so much history that I have only read about, is wonderful.
You have my respect.
I have a large blue box in my spare room

16 Aug 2010

Quote by essex34m

Get your facts right son before slagging off the Tories... it was a Conservative Government which passed The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 giving females the same rights as men electorally.

To be fair it wasn't as if they leapt at the chance to give women an equal say ......there was as I remember a certain amount of pressure applied by certain parties
You remember the pressure being applied when the The Representation of the People (Equal Franchise) Act 1928 was introduced?
I had no idea of your age, for someone to have lived through so much history that I have only read about, is wonderful.
You have my respect.
Staggers remembers the regulations that came in for chariot wheel nut torques when Boudicca set them lol

Dave_Notts

16 Aug 2010

Surely saxon chariot wheels had spigots not nuts.

16 Aug 2010

Boudicca saxon?

16 Aug 2010

Was he a roman then?

16 Aug 2010

Quote by Dave__Notts

hot food in restaurants like buffets must be kept a certain temperature but if you goggle food poisoning statistics you`ll get a shock

Is hot-holding the main source of food poisoning then?
Dave_Notts
quite the opposite dave my point was although the rules state food must be kept within a certain temperature
quite often its not the case ending in food poisoning
same with the quality of petrol there is a standard but do all keep to that standard rolleyes

16 Aug 2010

Iceni........oh how we used to joke about that name