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Quote by DeeCee
My opinion on it should be that who ever started the thread, should have the power to either delete a post or to be able to issue a warning.
This was my original thread and what started off as a debate, as usual goes off topic, and away from the question that I asked...exactly the same thing happened on my 9/11 thread.
If I open a chat room I have the power to kick members who are either abusive or nasty. You should be able to have those same powers in the forum IF it is your own thread.
I feel that would work and would I think stop the vast majority of the problems we now have. Two of my threads ended up going off topic and I could have easily stopped that from happening had I, as the poster had that option.
Maybe one for admin to look at at some stage in the future? dunno
Blimey....hijacking me own thread now. :shock:

but this is a forum................ not a chatroom.
secondly if admin/mods havn't even commented on a sensible, pragmatic approach like splitting the chatroom, they are hardly going to give the power of the "delete post" or "lock thread" to the OP a second thought they?
Deecee... it was only a suggestion. It may work it may not, but that is all it was...a suggestion.
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Quote by Peanut

People banging there heads against the wall in frustration doesn`t appear to me to be because they are in any way commenting on your opinion or views.

A cop out if ever there was one rolleyes
It is simply the fact that you constantly pick peoples threads apart line by line if they have the audacity to disagree with you.

Duh! That's what debate and discussion is.
Or put another way, if you don't want what you say to be picked up on then there's a simple answer... don't fucking say it! :roll:
Your constant nit-picking and total inability to allow somebody to express a differing opinion to your own is, at worst, a form of bullying and, at best, just plain boring.

Nit picking? I see it as attention to detail. Don't like it? Tough.
You only see me debating with someone who has a differing opinion as it tends to be somewhat of a mutual masturbation session if one chooses to debate with someone with the same opinion.
As for the bullying, well the answer to that is bollocks, you do talk some shite now and again, and if you're bored then the answer is simply to stay clear. There are a lot of threads and posts here that bore me. I don't pipe up and say that they are boring I simply steer clear. Something that you may be as well doing, if only for the sake of your blood pressure.
Now I can only perceive your post to be trolling as it has fuck all to do with the thread topic, is nothing but an essay on your personal beliefs about me personally and is generally a waste of space and close to breeching the AUP as it is nothing but a personal attack on me.
Now frankly I'm getting a bit pissed off by all these pops at me personally. And I'm sick to fucking death of hypocrites like you swanning into a thread, coming up with crap like this then expecting to be perceived as the voice of reason.
I hope that somebody really does now take the AUP into account. This has now been happening on a regular occasion, and I think admin should now step into this.
It has gone far enough and to be honest even I yes I am getting tired and bored of this kind of profanity, for the AUP is there for all to see.... no?
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Quote by kentswingers777
My opinion on it should be that who ever started the thread, should have the power to either delete a post or to be able to issue a warning.
This was my original thread and what started off as a debate, as usual goes off topic, and away from the question that I asked...exactly the same thing happened on my 9/11 thread.
If I open a chat room I have the power to kick members who are either abusive or nasty. You should be able to have those same powers in the forum IF it is your own thread.
I feel that would work and would I think stop the vast majority of the problems we now have. Two of my threads ended up going off topic and I could have easily stopped that from happening had I, as the poster had that option.
Maybe one for admin to look at at some stage in the future? dunno
Blimey....hijacking me own thread now. :shock:

but this is a forum................ not a chatroom.
secondly if admin/mods havn't even commented on a sensible, pragmatic approach like splitting the chatroom, they are hardly going to give the power of the "delete post" or "lock thread" to the OP a second thought they?
Deecee... it was only a suggestion. It may work it may not, but that is all it was...a suggestion.
i can see it was a suggestion.....no need to take it personally.... but your suggestion is a non-starter.... pretty much like mine... or possibly even more of a non-starter !!! ( can i say that without you or anyone else getting offended?)
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Quote by kentswingers777

People banging there heads against the wall in frustration doesn`t appear to me to be because they are in any way commenting on your opinion or views.

A cop out if ever there was one rolleyes
It is simply the fact that you constantly pick peoples threads apart line by line if they have the audacity to disagree with you.

Duh! That's what debate and discussion is.
Or put another way, if you don't want what you say to be picked up on then there's a simple answer... don't fucking say it! :roll:
Your constant nit-picking and total inability to allow somebody to express a differing opinion to your own is, at worst, a form of bullying and, at best, just plain boring.

Nit picking? I see it as attention to detail. Don't like it? Tough.
You only see me debating with someone who has a differing opinion as it tends to be somewhat of a mutual masturbation session if one chooses to debate with someone with the same opinion.
As for the bullying, well the answer to that is bollocks, you do talk some shite now and again, and if you're bored then the answer is simply to stay clear. There are a lot of threads and posts here that bore me. I don't pipe up and say that they are boring I simply steer clear. Something that you may be as well doing, if only for the sake of your blood pressure.
Now I can only perceive your post to be trolling as it has fuck all to do with the thread topic, is nothing but an essay on your personal beliefs about me personally and is generally a waste of space and close to breeching the AUP as it is nothing but a personal attack on me.
Now frankly I'm getting a bit pissed off by all these pops at me personally. And I'm sick to fucking death of hypocrites like you swanning into a thread, coming up with crap like this then expecting to be perceived as the voice of reason.
I hope that somebody really does now take the AUP into account. This has now been happening on a regular occasion, and I think admin should now step into this.
It has gone far enough and to be honest even I yes I am getting tired and bored of this kind of profanity, for the AUP is there for all to see.... no?
is this not like a football player trying to get another player sent off???
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Quote by DeeCee
My opinion on it should be that who ever started the thread, should have the power to either delete a post or to be able to issue a warning.
This was my original thread and what started off as a debate, as usual goes off topic, and away from the question that I asked...exactly the same thing happened on my 9/11 thread.
If I open a chat room I have the power to kick members who are either abusive or nasty. You should be able to have those same powers in the forum IF it is your own thread.
I feel that would work and would I think stop the vast majority of the problems we now have. Two of my threads ended up going off topic and I could have easily stopped that from happening had I, as the poster had that option.
Maybe one for admin to look at at some stage in the future? dunno
Blimey....hijacking me own thread now. :shock:

but this is a forum................ not a chatroom.
secondly if admin/mods havn't even commented on a sensible, pragmatic approach like splitting the chatroom, they are hardly going to give the power of the "delete post" or "lock thread" to the OP a second thought they?
Deecee... it was only a suggestion. It may work it may not, but that is all it was...a suggestion.
i can see it was a suggestion.....no need to take it personally.... but your suggestion is a non-starter.... pretty much like mine... or possibly even more of a non-starter !!! ( can i say that without you or anyone else getting offended?)
Sorry deecee, I did not take it personally. Appologise if it seemed that way.
Yes I know really it is a no starter, but I thought it was worth a mention to be honest.
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Quote by Theladyisaminx
My opinion on it should be that who ever started the thread, should have the power to either delete a post or to be able to issue a warning.
This was my original thread and what started off as a debate, as usual goes off topic, and away from the question that I asked...exactly the same thing happened on my 9/11 thread.
If I open a chat room I have the power to kick members who are either abusive or nasty. You should be able to have those same powers in the forum IF it is your own thread.
I feel that would work and would I think stop the vast majority of the problems we now have. Two of my threads ended up going off topic and I could have easily stopped that from happening had I, as the poster had that option.
Maybe one for admin to look at at some stage in the future? dunno
Blimey....hijacking me own thread now. :shock:

:shock: everyone including myself would be booted if they don't agree with you! lol
You would be left chatting to yourself! rotflmao
I would get the right answers though Minxy. :lol:
You and me very often have very different views, but have I never let you have your say? :dunno: I know you are wrong but at least I give you some air time Minxy. :lol: :lol:
Ya knows I loves ya really Minx. cool
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Quote by DeeCee

People banging there heads against the wall in frustration doesn`t appear to me to be because they are in any way commenting on your opinion or views.

A cop out if ever there was one rolleyes
It is simply the fact that you constantly pick peoples threads apart line by line if they have the audacity to disagree with you.

Duh! That's what debate and discussion is.
Or put another way, if you don't want what you say to be picked up on then there's a simple answer... don't fucking say it! :roll:
Your constant nit-picking and total inability to allow somebody to express a differing opinion to your own is, at worst, a form of bullying and, at best, just plain boring.

Nit picking? I see it as attention to detail. Don't like it? Tough.
You only see me debating with someone who has a differing opinion as it tends to be somewhat of a mutual masturbation session if one chooses to debate with someone with the same opinion.
As for the bullying, well the answer to that is bollocks, you do talk some shite now and again, and if you're bored then the answer is simply to stay clear. There are a lot of threads and posts here that bore me. I don't pipe up and say that they are boring I simply steer clear. Something that you may be as well doing, if only for the sake of your blood pressure.
Now I can only perceive your post to be trolling as it has fuck all to do with the thread topic, is nothing but an essay on your personal beliefs about me personally and is generally a waste of space and close to breeching the AUP as it is nothing but a personal attack on me.
Now frankly I'm getting a bit pissed off by all these pops at me personally. And I'm sick to fucking death of hypocrites like you swanning into a thread, coming up with crap like this then expecting to be perceived as the voice of reason.
I hope that somebody really does now take the AUP into account. This has now been happening on a regular occasion, and I think admin should now step into this.
It has gone far enough and to be honest even I yes I am getting tired and bored of this kind of profanity, for the AUP is there for all to see.... no?
is this not like a football player trying to get another player sent off???
Meaning? You dont think this has gone far enough now?
No doubt another good thread of mine going down the locked thread route. dunno
Peanut
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Discussion:
an act or instance of discussing; consideration or examination by argument, comment, etc., esp. to explore solutions; informal debate.
Debate:
to argue or discuss (a question, issue, or the like), as in a legislative or public assembly
For those who don't seem to understand
mr__powers1
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well i quite like Peanuts postings...i honestly think some are guilty of goading him,then play the victims!
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Quote by kentswingers777
Meaning? You dont think this has gone far enough now?
No doubt another good thread of mine going down the locked thread route. dunno

meaning provoking someone to lose their temper and then asking for them to be disciplined has many similarities to things ive seen (and not particularly liked)on a football pitch.
oh, and its happened on these forums too.
Theladyisaminx
Sex God
Quote by Mr-Powers
well i quite like Peanuts postings...i honestly think some are guilty of goading him,then play the victims!

I like peanuts postings too, a lot of the time he brings a good debate, he just needs to know when to step back as it isnt really worth getting the last word. I think it takes a real person to back off.
The strongest type of people, are the ones that can walk away.
I believe if people post, you can question their opinions.
An arguement can occur when you have questioned all their responses and still keep asking.
It is knowing when to stop!
And just accept!
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Quote by DeeCee

Meaning? You dont think this has gone far enough now?
No doubt another good thread of mine going down the locked thread route. dunno

meaning provoking someone to lose their temper and then asking for them to be disciplined has many similarities to things ive seen (and not particularly liked)on a football pitch.
oh, and its happened on these forums too.
Oh well..what can I say?
If people cannot lose their temper without using excessive profanity, then the only person in the wrong, is that person who has used it. There are better ways of expressing ones self, without the use of continued swearing.
You really think that a mod or admin are not aware of this thread? You really think by me saying something will make a difference? Think they will look at this themselves without any help from me.
People on here are too quick to critisise others, but dont like it when the tables are turned, and to be fair count myself amongst that too at times.
There is a difference between having a friendly banter and a full out slanging match. When I think it has gone far enough I either say something or leave the thread...check some of the past ones out.
Thats me gone. bolt
anais
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Following on sort of from Minxys thread, is Britain broken as so many now seem to think it is?
I am not sure if broken is the right word, I would say seriously fractured.
There was a meeting yesterday with people who have been affected by crime recently like, Mrs Newlove, who's husband was kicked to death by ferel thugs.
They were on a panel of people who was asking the question about broken were many influencial people there.
Have a look at the link and yes deecee it is from the Sun. lol
After reading the article in peoples opinions, is Britain broken?

If anyone has anything they would like to say about the above topic - carry on.
Otherwise this thread seems to have ran its course.
PS. In MHO of course!
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Some interesting points here, if anyone still interested. cool
anais
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Some interesting points here, if anyone still interested. cool

Interesting article - be interesting to hear young peoples view in the programme talked about.
What I find sad is that it takes a well known name to highlight this kind of thing an take issues forward. I totally agree with what was said tho, I do think politicians are out of touch of what its like on the ground - for local people/workers etc.
I remember Tony Blair coming to visit the community I worked in. One of the locals persuaded him to make a quick visit to what was called *the front line* where I worked. Plain clothes police moved the street gangs up the road from their normal spot - then stood on street corners with little walkie talkies - TB's car pulls up - he gets out - he sees the gangs - jumps back in car an drives off at full speed. 10 seconds he was out of that car! Enough time for a quick pic for the papers - luckily I got one with the look of fear on his face lol
What does that say to young people? They would have talked to him ok if he had only walked up to them an said hello, showed an interest, listened to what they had to say etc...
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Quote by anais
Some interesting points here, if anyone still interested. cool

Interesting article - be interesting to hear young peoples view in the programme talked about.
What I find sad is that it takes a well known name to highlight this kind of thing an take issues forward. I totally agree with what was said tho, I do think politicians are out of touch of what its like on the ground - for local people/workers etc.
I remember Tony Blair coming to visit the community I worked in. One of the locals persuaded him to make a quick visit to what was called *the front line* where I worked. Plain clothes police moved the street gangs up the road from their normal spot - then stood on street corners with little walkie talkies - TB's car pulls up - he gets out - he sees the gangs - jumps back in car an drives off at full speed. 10 seconds he was out of that car! Enough time for a quick pic for the papers - luckily I got one with the look of fear on his face lol
What does that say to young people? They would have talked to him ok if he had only walked up to them an said hello, showed an interest, listened to what they had to say etc...
Well im my paper today one in five youngsters under the age of 25 are looking to leave Britain.
Now that is a shocking statistic I feel. It was called the brain drain poll.
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by Theladyisaminx
well i quite like Peanuts postings...i honestly think some are guilty of goading him,then play the victims!

I like peanuts postings too, a lot of the time he brings a good debate, he just needs to know when to step back as it isnt really worth getting the last word. I think it takes a real person to back off.
The strongest type of people, are the ones that can walk away.
I believe if people post, you can question their opinions.
An arguement can occur when you have questioned all their responses and still keep asking.
It is knowing when to stop!
And just accept!
I agree but maybe britian is broken because people want the last word.... when they don't all can do is get abusive... i have been on the end of some postings... not being a victim... but certainly upset me. sad
anais
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Some interesting points here, if anyone still interested. cool

Interesting article - be interesting to hear young peoples view in the programme talked about.
What I find sad is that it takes a well known name to highlight this kind of thing an take issues forward. I totally agree with what was said tho, I do think politicians are out of touch of what its like on the ground - for local people/workers etc.
I remember Tony Blair coming to visit the community I worked in. One of the locals persuaded him to make a quick visit to what was called *the front line* where I worked. Plain clothes police moved the street gangs up the road from their normal spot - then stood on street corners with little walkie talkies - TB's car pulls up - he gets out - he sees the gangs - jumps back in car an drives off at full speed. 10 seconds he was out of that car! Enough time for a quick pic for the papers - luckily I got one with the look of fear on his face lol
What does that say to young people? They would have talked to him ok if he had only walked up to them an said hello, showed an interest, listened to what they had to say etc...
Well im my paper today one in five youngsters under the age of 25 are looking to leave Britain.
Now that is a shocking statistic I feel. It was called the brain drain poll.
I agree with you it is.
Many of the young people I worked with seemed to have lost all hope and felt they didn't have a future here. Most of them just want someone to believe in them again.
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by Hibernian
If I was to give my opinions on what is wrong with this country, I'd get flamed by those in ivory towers who like to sit in judgement and who half the time give a public opinion whilst privately holding a totally different one.
Enoch Powell had a point though.

Which point did Enoch Powell have?
Missy
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Quote by niceguysdoexist
I find myself having little respect for any politicians nowadays as presentation is now all that matters and content has precious little to do with anything . It seems the mantra is ...do as little as possible and thus avoid blame for f***ing it up.
Love her or loath her , and there are sound arguments for both, Thatcher changed britain hugely and maintained our place as a significant force in Europe.
Politicians have a difficult job to do as they can only tinker round the edges of a rampant and obscenely avaricious capitalism that has distorted economies and creates all powerful lobbyists that dictate government policy.
However, there is a role for national government, but alas, Tony and Gordon have conspired to create an unbalanced mixed economy whereby they solved unemployment problems by a combination of sleight of hand and goverment recruitment. This they had to underfund by tax rises, well they couldn't afford to fund it all (new labour indeed ha ha)both by raising direct taxes(Vat and pension fund taxes) and indirect covert taxes.. parking fees at hospitals, the full list of both of these is almost year after year after year they ran the country at a loss and have had to borrow money even after selling all our gold (at rock bottom prices). Now we are in a global crisis and they are forecasting huge borrowing requirements ....beware of national bankruptcy...does anyone recall what happened the last time we had to go to the IMF and hand over the running of our country to them.
In addition we have allowed an already creaking country to receive on purpose, and by deceipt, and by accident hundreds and hundreds of thousands of immigrants(whislt kicking the ghurka's out FFS .lunacy or what ...and that point has nothing at all to do with me fancying the pants off Joanna Lumley)
Immigration is having many many effects ...on housing stock , on labour rates , on unemployment ..oh and probably on benefits as the economy dawdles and we have to pay for their unemployment(well I assume we wont send them home )
There is so so much more I could put ..but I shall conclude with the total lack of foresight to prepare for the Energy crisis wit a strategy that replaced North Sea gas and above all we place our gas supply at the mercy of the Russians who we then (no doubt to keep the USA happy )proceed to tell how they should conduct their foreign affairs ...Putin must be rolling in the aisles.
Talking about diplomatic and capable Foreign policy Tony and Gordon took us on the back of a pack of pathetic lies into Iraq ...
and of course all this isn't Gordon's fault at all.
Sorry folks for that rant but for Gordon to say its unique world circumstances that has caused this crisis is nothing but smoke and mirrors and it makes me just a tad angry
mad :x :x
Back to swinging redface surprisedops:

Wow, bet you were like Liberace hammering that lot out, with such passion too worship
Bluddy brill post :worship:
anais
Sex God
Quote by Hibernian
If I was to give my opinions on what is wrong with this country, I'd get flamed by those in ivory towers who like to sit in judgement and who half the time give a public opinion whilst privately holding a totally different one.
Enoch Powell had a point though.

Heck, did you ever listen to his Rivers of Blood speech?
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by Zeddies
If I was to give my opinions on what is wrong with this country, I'd get flamed by those in ivory towers who like to sit in judgement and who half the time give a public opinion whilst privately holding a totally different one.
Enoch Powell had a point though.

Which point did Enoch Powell have?
Been looking at
but might need a clue?
But found this on there, not my view at all
"In the United Kingdom, particularly in England, "Enoch was right" is a phrase of political rhetoric, employed by the far right, inviting comparison of aspects of contemporary English society with the predictions made by Powell in the Rivers of Blood speech. The phrase implies criticism of racial quotas, immigration and multiculturalism."
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Quote by Zeddies
If I was to give my opinions on what is wrong with this country, I'd get flamed by those in ivory towers who like to sit in judgement and who half the time give a public opinion whilst privately holding a totally different one.
Enoch Powell had a point though.

Which point did Enoch Powell have?
His " rivers of blood " speech did happen in the 80's with mass riots in Brixton and Toxteth. He did say it would happen and it did. Also has happened in Bradford, and many places are like a powder keg now, waiting to go up.
He also said " Powell estimated that by the year 2000, the figure would be 5 to 7 million immigrants ". Which he may have been a few years out but that figure now in 2008 is not that far out, according to stats.
They are facts but does in no way say that I agreed or agree with his policies or his views.
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by kentswingers777
If I was to give my opinions on what is wrong with this country, I'd get flamed by those in ivory towers who like to sit in judgement and who half the time give a public opinion whilst privately holding a totally different one.
Enoch Powell had a point though.

Which point did Enoch Powell have?
His " rivers of blood " speech did happen in the 80's with mass riots in Brixton and Toxteth. He did say it would happen and it did. Also has happened in Bradford, and many places are like a powder keg now, waiting to go up.
They are facts but does in no way say that I agreed or agree with his policies or his views.
The full quotation:-
In the United Kingdom, particularly in England, "Enoch was right" is a phrase of political rhetoric, employed by the far right, inviting comparison of aspects of contemporary English society with the predictions made by Powell in the Rivers of Blood speech. The phrase implies criticism of racial quotas, immigration and multiculturalism. "Enoch was right" badges were available in the United Kingdom at one point, as were stickers bearing the slogan "Come back Enoch Powell – we should have listened". Following the St Pauls, Bristol, Brixton, Toxteth and Handsworth riots in the 1980s, Powell claimed that his "rivers of blood" prediction had come true.
I know about the Bradford riots well.... firstly the question that should be asked why did these riots start? The bradford riots had alot to do with the far right and anti-nazi league.
The white and Asian communities have become increasingly segregated, forming ghettoes within different areas of the city of bradford..... it is not because of multiculturalism, simply a lack of it.
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Quote by Hibernian
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

I certainly do NOT agree with that at all.
There are a massive ammount of immigrants who since the 60's have settled here, and are bloody brilliant for our country and our economy. I know of many and prefere most of them to the white indigenous people for sure. I am glad most of them are here, for what its worth.
I do not agree with the current trend of Eastern Europeans, with no limits as to how many can come here, simply because they are part of the european union. We simply cannot take them all, and it is not racist at all to say so.
We are full and it should stop now.
Unknown User
Quote by Hibernian
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

that is the most revolting thing I have ever seen on this forum
I wish I had never popped my head around this particular thread door.
anais
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

I certainly do NOT agree with that at all.
There are a massive ammount of immigrants who since the 60's have settled here, and are bloody brilliant for our country and our economy. I know of many and prefere most of them to the white indigenous people for sure. I am glad most of them are here, for what its worth.
I do not agree with the current trend of Eastern Europeans, with no limits as to how many can come here, simply because they are part of the european union. We simply cannot take them all, and it is not racist at all to say so.
We are full and it should stop now.
Heavens... we couldn't possibly send generations of families back, to where? Home? This is home!!
I do think if we have any more people were gonna sink confused :? :?
I do think we have done enough now regarding Europe for a number of reasons - our communities cannot cope - every spot of land going is being developed - we are losing what little facilities we had for housing - like pubs/garages etc. Where is it going to end?
anais
Sex God
Quote by Hibernian
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

I certainly do NOT agree with that at all.
There are a massive ammount of immigrants who since the 60's have settled here, and are bloody brilliant for our country and our economy. I know of many and prefere most of them to the white indigenous people for sure. I am glad most of them are here, for what its worth.
I do not agree with the current trend of Eastern Europeans, with no limits as to how many can come here, simply because they are part of the european union. We simply cannot take them all, and it is not racist at all to say so.
We are full and it should stop now.
Kent, that was my point, the country cannot support the vast influx.
I think you have misread what I said, I wasn't saying people "should be forced to leave" I was saying people "are being forced to leave" by the circumstance not by authority.
I read it wrong way as well Hib (didnt help you mentioned EP) - try an write a bit clearer eh?
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by kentswingers777
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

I certainly do NOT agree with that at all.
There are a massive ammount of immigrants who since the 60's have settled here, and are bloody brilliant for our country and our economy. I know of many and prefere most of them to the white indigenous people for sure. I am glad most of them are here, for what its worth.
I do not agree with the current trend of Eastern Europeans, with no limits as to how many can come here, simply because they are part of the european union. We simply cannot take them all, and it is not racist at all to say so.
We are full and it should stop now.
My Grand Parents and generations before that fought for the british... and along side them.
My parents currently retired used to have houses they worked hard to buy and rent. My father used to work 20hrs a day or more, in 3 different jobs, to get to where he was. He found that people started putting out tenents in order to take in people coming from europe and asylum seekers to get more rent. He argued the case why was his house's rent valued less than the couples house that was worse then his higher in rent. He was told because their rent is paid from a different set of money, if he want more money why doesn't he throuw out the low income white family living there and get asylum seeker in. He chose to keep the low income family. But it makes you question when someone comes from another country, works hard, faced racism daily when he tried to get somewhere, got his children education with helping fund them, still chose to help a british family, when some other british white people chose to throw there own out on the streets.
Zeddies
Casanova
Quote by anais
Simple fact is, the country can't cope with the vast levels of immigration, so the only option left is even for those that have roots going back generations is to leave, forced out.

I certainly do NOT agree with that at all.
There are a massive ammount of immigrants who since the 60's have settled here, and are bloody brilliant for our country and our economy. I know of many and prefere most of them to the white indigenous people for sure. I am glad most of them are here, for what its worth.
I do not agree with the current trend of Eastern Europeans, with no limits as to how many can come here, simply because they are part of the european union. We simply cannot take them all, and it is not racist at all to say so.
We are full and it should stop now.
Heavens... we couldn't possibly send generations of families back, to where? Home? This is home!!
I do think if we have any more people were gonna sink confused :? :?
I do think we have done enough now regarding Europe for a number of reasons - our communities cannot cope - every spot of land going is being developed - we are losing what little facilities we had for housing - like pubs/garages etc. Where is it going to end?
Personally when I go to kashmir I am seen as british not Kashmiri, I was born in Britain and this is my home.