I know some schools ask parents to sign a disclaimer for the whole school year, that allows them to administer first aid or take action on behalf of the parent should something like that happen. Without that disclaimer I think they are on dodgy ground to make any decisions without the parents consent. I really don't see why they couldn't have asked her if she was ok with them getting an ambulance and arranging for her to meet him at the hospital though. Seems madness to me.
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When #3 child was pushed from the climbing frame onto the brand-new safety matting & broke her arm, the same thing happened. The teacher thought she'd broken it- it was bent- so maybe it is? 
Or there may be a call to parents to see what the can do first :dunno: I think they'd have to send a teechir with the child- so in a small skool it could cause issues? :dunno:
Hope he fixes soon - and doesn't get an itch
Or there may be a call to parents to see what the can do first :dunno: I think they'd have to send a teechir with the child- so in a small skool it could cause issues? :dunno:
Hope he fixes soon - and doesn't get an itch
Seems wrong to me Flower. It was a long time ago now, but when I was in school I tripped over a chair leg, fell over hitting my eye on a table corner. I had a bad gash over my eye. My teacher told me to walk to the secretary's office( ). When I got there the secretary called my mum and she had to take me to hospital.... I guess its something to do with insurance???
Hope he gets better soon x
). When I got there the secretary called my mum and she had to take me to hospital.... I guess its something to do with insurance???Hope he gets better soon x
Sex God
Hmmm, first thing we do with any serious injury at gymnastics is call an ambulance, then parents second!
Although, once, a kid stood on glass, which could've simply been pulled out, but unfortunately, in case a piece was left in, we couldn't touch it but instead had to call the parents, then advise them to take the child to A&E to have it removed- poor child had to wait 40 mins for parents to come collect them, cos we couldn't touch it!
It's so unfortunate that we live in a world now where trying to do good for someone can be turned against you for the want of money....
Although, once, a kid stood on glass, which could've simply been pulled out, but unfortunately, in case a piece was left in, we couldn't touch it but instead had to call the parents, then advise them to take the child to A&E to have it removed- poor child had to wait 40 mins for parents to come collect them, cos we couldn't touch it!
It's so unfortunate that we live in a world now where trying to do good for someone can be turned against you for the want of money....
Sex God
Having said that, who would go with the child? and how would they get back from the hospital? I doubt it the child would want to travel in the ambulance alone, but surely by the time ambulance was called and first aid administered, the parent would've arrived/ could meet at hospital?
Sex God
Our son hit his face on the corner of a table at school causing quite a nasty bleed. We got phoned and were over 50 miles away to tell us and ask us to collect him at the end of school which was about an hour and a half away rather than let him walk home as was/is usual. We got there a bit late too find him still at school which is all just as well.
All is fine other than a son with mass padding on his face fine until the deputy head says to us "I think you might want to take him to casualty as it keeps bleeding and it looks as though it might need a seeing to by them"
We were a little bemused that they had not done so themselves. It was a bit off we thought.
All is fine other than a son with mass padding on his face fine until the deputy head says to us "I think you might want to take him to casualty as it keeps bleeding and it looks as though it might need a seeing to by them"
We were a little bemused that they had not done so themselves. It was a bit off we thought.
Quote by Phuckers
where is the duty of care,do they call the parents when teens kids are fighting in school to break it,its not that they are asking permission from the parents to take off a limp or something...we are turning to be victims of over will be responsible if a poor child bleeds to death!
Phuckers, I think I love you. That just cracked me up- sorry!
Sex God
Im at a loss here.
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
Sex God
A few weeks ago school phoned me, to say son had to go to hospital ASAP and if i agreed a teacher was waiting to take him as they know i dont drive and would pick me up on the way (i had to give permission for son to get in teachers car). This is not usually the action taken but it was deemed necessary by the head teacher, Couldnt really fault them for that but realise it was beyond the call of duty.
Its a shame its come to this
Its a shame its come to this
Sex God
Quote by flower411
Im at a loss here.
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
Who at the school made the decision that after a fall that caused an arm to be fractured in two places, there was no internal bleeding of any kind ?
And if a parent could not be contacted, how long would it have been before the child was taken to hospital .....
AND !! Who the hell was qualified to make the decision that the injury wasn`t life threatening ??
Have no clue Flower and I can understand your upset but you didnt say all this originally. Maybe it was pretty obvious to whoever was trained in first aid that it was only a broken arm :dunno:
I wasnt there, I didnt do it, I cant answer your rant! :silly:
Sex God
Quote by flower411
I cant answer your rant! :silly:
:shock:
:therethere:
Sex God
Quote by flower411
Im at a loss here.
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
Who at the school made the decision that after a fall that caused an arm to be fractured in two places, there was no internal bleeding of any kind ?
And if a parent could not be contacted, how long would it have been before the child was taken to hospital .....
AND !! Who the hell was qualified to make the decision that the injury wasn`t life threatening ??
:thumbup: always better to err on the side of caution and in this situation, I don;t see why it wouldn't warrant an ambulance- it could potentially be more serious, ie if vascular or nervous system interrupted.
Always sensible to get paramedic, especially in terms of pain relief that can be administered quickly and safely to a small child who is most likely in distress and someone who is qualified to assess for the danger signs....
Sex God
Quote by mazandden
Im at a loss here.
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
Who at the school made the decision that after a fall that caused an arm to be fractured in two places, there was no internal bleeding of any kind ?
And if a parent could not be contacted, how long would it have been before the child was taken to hospital .....
AND !! Who the hell was qualified to make the decision that the injury wasn`t life threatening ??
:thumbup: always better to err on the side of caution and in this situation, I don;t see why it wouldn't warrant an ambulance- it could potentially be more serious, ie if vascular or nervous system interrupted.
Always sensible to get paramedic, especially in terms of pain relief that can be administered quickly and safely to a small child who is most likely in distress and someone who is qualified to assess for the danger signs....
Maybe Im just getting old eh!
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
, no problems with schools and broken arms and no rows with bus companies and children without oyster cards !
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
, no problems with schools and broken arms and no rows with bus companies and children without oyster cards !I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
Sex God
Quote by Sexysmilingeyes
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
Like I keep saying, what happened to common sense prevailing?
Thank you, Im pleased its not just me thinking on these lines, I was getting quite worried
:lol: Quote by winchwench
where is the duty of care,do they call the parents when teens kids are fighting in school to break it,its not that they are asking permission from the parents to take off a limp or something...we are turning to be victims of over will be responsible if a poor child bleeds to death!
Phuckers,I think I love you. That just cracked me up- sorry!
thats a step in the right direction
Sex God
Quote by helnheaven
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
Like I keep saying, what happened to common sense prevailing?
Thank you, Im pleased its not just me thinking on these lines, I was getting quite worried
:lol:OK now i'm sitting on the fence!
i can see it fom both points of view now it's put like that!
So i suppose, just have to take each 'case' individually and chat to the school about you concens
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this! :lol:
Quote by Sexysmilingeyes
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
we dont think,we know they are precious,i would sue the school if my daughter breaks a fingernail and bleeds to death, while they try to ring me but invain...this medical details should be updated and given to school at the begining of every term,the problem with the system is we wait until something awful happens then try impliment quick fit laws
Sex God
Quote by mazandden
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this!
Pefectly :lol:
Now that isan emegency :giggle:
Sex God
Quote by Phuckers
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
we dont think,we know they are precious,i would sue the school if my daughter breaks a fingernail and bleeds to death, while they try to ring me but invain...this medical details should be updated and given to school at the begining of every term,the problem with the system is we wait until something awful happens then try impliment quick fit laws
Yes our kids are precious but at what point do you stop wrapping them in cotton wool? Kids need to breath, they fall, they get cuts n bruises n broken limbs. Whats it comimg to when every parent screams litigation? The bloody world has gone bonkers!
And who do you sue when your kid falls n breaks her finger nail n bleeds to death whilst in your care?? Dont even go down the road of 'It wouldnt happen'! It can and does happen, kids have accidents no matter whose care they are in.
Quote by flower411
Im at a loss here.
A broken arm is painful and upsetting for a child but its not life threatening and surely it doesent warrant an ambulance. A broken leg maybe...
Who at the school made the decision that after a fall that caused an arm to be fractured in two places, there was no internal bleeding of any kind ?
And if a parent could not be contacted, how long would it have been before the child was taken to hospital .....
AND !! Who the hell was qualified to make the decision that the injury wasn`t life threatening ??
No comment on the actual incident, but there is very little blood loss involved when a young child breaks an upper limb (even if it's multiple). Most times the fracture is incomplete anyway (greenstick fracture).
Most times, if the arm has been splinted then there is no real need for an ambulance, especially if the parent is available quite soon and they have their own transport.
The exception to this is if it's an open fracture, in which case more specialised knowledge is required over and above a school first aider.
From the ambulance PoV a standard upper limb fracture of a child is not considered to be a life threatening urgent call.
Every case is different though, and I can't comment on Mrs F's little un with not knowing the details.
Quote by helnheaven
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
we dont think,we know they are precious,i would sue the school if my daughter breaks a fingernail and bleeds to death, while they try to ring me but invain...this medical details should be updated and given to school at the begining of every term,the problem with the system is we wait until something awful happens then try impliment quick fit laws
Yes our kids are precious but at what point do you stop wrapping them in cotton wool? Kids need to breath, they fall, they get cuts n bruises n broken limbs. Whats it comimg to when every parent screams litigation? The bloody world has gone bonkers!
well as you've said above common sense must prevail,its the teachers who called the parents not the child so i dont know where the cotton wool treatment is coming from,all teacher should have a first aid certificates not interruting parents with phone calls about cuts and bruises....
Sex God
Quote by Phuckers
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
we dont think,we know they are precious,i would sue the school if my daughter breaks a fingernail and bleeds to death, while they try to ring me but invain...this medical details should be updated and given to school at the begining of every term,the problem with the system is we wait until something awful happens then try impliment quick fit laws
Yes our kids are precious but at what point do you stop wrapping them in cotton wool? Kids need to breath, they fall, they get cuts n bruises n broken limbs. Whats it comimg to when every parent screams litigation? The bloody world has gone bonkers!
well as you've said above common sense must prevail,its the teachers who called the parents not the child so i dont know where the cotton wool treatment is coming from,all teacher should have a first aid certificates not interruting parents with phone calls about cuts and bruises....
I believe School have to call Parents when an incident has occured. Im sure someone will correct me if Im wrong.
The 'cotton wool treatment'as you put it, was mentioned because you mentioned sueing if your child so much as fell down and broke a finger nail and bled to death (which is highly unlikely). I was making the point that you cannot protect your children from everything and in my opinion threatening to sue the school would be bonkers.
Sex God
Quote by helnheaven
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this!
Pefectly :lol:
Now that isan emegency :giggle:
quick i need ugent medical attention- who will help a damsel in distess? i need my * * button back (tied it thee but it didn't wok!)
I feel quite faint- hu y docto!
wenchy- vey impessive!!!
hmmm, methinks i should substitut the lette fo something else??? maybe lette5?
Sex God
Quote by mazandden
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this!
Pefectly :lol:
Now that isan emegency :giggle:
quick i need ugent medical attention- who will help a damsel in distess? i need my * * button back (tied it thee but it didn't wok!)
I feel quite faint- hu y docto!
wenchy- vey impessive!!!
hmmm, methinks i should substitut the lette fo something else??? maybe lette5?
If you need an ambulance I'll give Hammy a shout for ya! :lol:
Quote by mazandden
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this!
Pefectly :lol:
Now that isan emegency :giggle:
quick i need ugent medical attention- who will help a damsel in distess? i need my * * button back (tied it thee but it didn't wok!)
I feel quite faint- hu y docto!
wenchy- vey impessive!!!
hmmm, methinks i should substitut the lette fo something else??? maybe lette5?
You could always use W as it's close to R and it just makes it sound like a cute speech impediment
Quote by Peanut
PS the lette between e and t on my keyboad has just packed in- sooo bloody annoying, but hope you can undestand this!
Pefectly :lol:
Now that isan emegency :giggle:
quick i need ugent medical attention- who will help a damsel in distess? i need my * * button back (tied it thee but it didn't wok!)
I feel quite faint- hu y docto!
wenchy- vey impessive!!!
hmmm, methinks i should substitut the lette fo something else??? maybe lette5?
You could always use W as it's close to R and it just makes it sound like a cute speech impediment
Let's hope she doesn't tell ou how highly ou rank
Quote by helnheaven
I think a lot of factors need to be looked - age of child, if parent works or is usually at home, any known allergies, previous medical history, how anxious the child is .... if a medical form has been completed prior to the term commencing, I could go on ....
Yes maybe at 1st glance on reading your post the ambulance should have been called but am sure the school acted in what they thought (given all the circumstances and legislation) was best for the child.... maybe rather than ranting here and finding just cause by the responses to get more irrate why dont you gather the facts and speak to the head teacher ? I am sure any genuine concerns would be dealt with .... I know from experience that some parents would rather they were called than an ambulance for something not life threatening.
Just to go slightly off on a tangent here but .... thank god I dont have kids
I know everyone who has children thinks they are very precious etc but schools and bus companies etc have tens / hundereds of children to think about - everything is done for a reason and usually following a similar incident or the like happening in the past. As a parent you know what you want to happen to your child but a teacher has to try and do this for 30 children and cant do right for doing wrong .... someone else would have said, 'I only live road they corner, I would have brought him, I'm his parent and want to be there not some teacher !'
we dont think,we know they are precious,i would sue the school if my daughter breaks a fingernail and bleeds to death, while they try to ring me but invain...this medical details should be updated and given to school at the begining of every term,the problem with the system is we wait until something awful happens then try impliment quick fit laws
Yes our kids are precious but at what point do you stop wrapping them in cotton wool? Kids need to breath, they fall, they get cuts n bruises n broken limbs. Whats it comimg to when every parent screams litigation? The bloody world has gone bonkers!
well as you've said above common sense must prevail,its the teachers who called the parents not the child so i dont know where the cotton wool treatment is coming from,all teacher should have a first aid certificates not interruting parents with phone calls about cuts and bruises....
I believe School have to call Parents when an incident has occured. Im sure someone will correct me if Im wrong.
The 'cotton wool treatment'as you put it, was mentioned because you mentioned sueing if your child so much as fell down and broke a finger nail and bled to death (which is highly unlikely). I was making the point that you cannot protect your children from everything and in my opinion threatening to sue the school would be bonkers.
this would depend on every case which always result to an inqury by the school itself ,of course a fingernail doesnt have blood
