Just picking up from another thread, something just caused me to ask this question
Can we be taught to manage people?
I was always under the impression that these skills would come naturally.
I have managed people but I have never been taught how to.
I have been taught the job in hand as to pass on my knowledge, I would have thought that is different than being taught to manage.
So can we be taught to do something that doesn’t come naturally?
When you find out... can you come teach my boss please?
I think duncanlondon summed him up perfectly in another thread! :giggle:
sometimes we handle things differently and can be educated in different ways to handle a situation.. is this the same thing .. perhaps.
most skills can be taught and lessons learned from yours or others mistakes its how you intergrate that into managing people and adapting what you do and say to them.
we all cannt get along with everyone and sometime personalities clash its how you handle the difficult situations with the difficult people is where the training comes into its own. i believe that if we dont get along with someone we rely on training not instinct on how to handle that person.
by training i mean either formal education or from a previous experience from a similar situation
i could do with being teached oooeeerrrr lol
Yes
Or there would be a helluva lot of people out of a job who teach on BSc (Hons) courses that have integrated management or the gurus that have seminars up and down the country.
Are some people natural managers? They may have an inner confidence to take the lead but how to do the job or to get the best out of the people under them is an art to be learnt over time.
It is similar to this common sense nonsense that is bandied about. There is no such thing as common sense. A child does not wake up and have the in built knowledge tha the fire is hot. They either put their hand in the fire and learn by experience that it is hot or they are told by their parent and learn by anothers experience. This becomes a common knowledge. So without being taught or learning yourself, you will never know.
Dave_Notts
I think most people can be taught, to do almost anything. I think its the same as guiding them in the right direction. I feel that the problem comes in when people are unwilling to be taught/guided.
We have a trainee manager at work, and to be honest hes stuck so far up his own backside that even if you try and explain things to him, he has little or no understanding of, he chooses not to listen and do things his own way. A few times this has caused more problems then there was in the first place. I understand that he has a hell of a lot to learn, and our department is a "specialist" department, and is classed as a skilled trade. However, even though he has no idea about the procedures that we use, and follow, he has no time to actually listen to what they are and go about things his own way. I am not sure if this is trying to teach him something or just trying to pass on info, but in my eyes its the same thing.
Blimey Minx it never ceases to amaze me how efficiently you manage to lift the rocks on the path of my own philosophical musings.
We all learn new skills all the time. In terms of managing people I think we tend to get thrown into the job and expected to pick it up as we go along. Its one of the reasons so many managers are absolutely shit at managing people. The examples provided on the telly don't help matters.
Most of the managers I've observed over the years haven't got a clue.
The problem with training people to manage is that the training offered reflects the culture of the organisation. Shifting an organisation that has a bullying overbearing management style towards inclusive, responsive respectful communication is incredibly difficult.
I personally believe a manager should like people, you can not teach people that, it is something from within.
If you don’t like people why manage?
I have worked with all types of manager ones of a lower ranking, at the same level, and senior.
I know a lot of managers that don’t like people, but enjoy having the power over them.
So ok you can teach people the job in hand, to pass on to teach others and make sure the job is getting done, but you can’t teach them to manage people.
Common knowledge is just that - knowledge that is commonly available through the population.
That said, the ability to manage people is NOT common knowledge. The opinion that they CAN manage people is sadly common among some people who, frankly, shouldn't be allowed to manage a paper napkin.
Managing people is a skill. It can be taught just like football or playing the piano can be taught. It doesn't mean the person taught can do it effectively. They will also need other skills (like stringing a sentence together, forward thinking, seeing big pictures and many others). And they need to want to do it. Many unfortunately confuse managing people with dominating people.
It breaks down to 2 things - knowledge of management techniques and ability to apply them effectively. You need both.
I would guess yes , but not to manage people can all be taught to do pretty much anything but to do anything well requires a degree of natural aptitude.
On further reading ......like she said.....oops!! must pay more attention
Im a manager...of sorts... no, really!
rediculous isnt it eh?
anyhow, Im also currently in a programme of management training... so the theory goes that yes, you can be taught management... I'll also agree with what was said above about 'how it is applied'... the same as any 'skill', it needs to be honed and improved upon through experience.
common sence... the first thing, and the bastard lesson-learned was:there is none... only yours.
sadly sence is only common to some and not all.
thier common sence is buildon different values and experiences.
management... me! rrreally!!!!
oh the humanity
lp
Yes. I've got a Management Diploma but I have to be honest a lot of it comes down to common sense, maturity and experience as well as being taught.