changes...

21 Oct 2007

Hi Folks,
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved on sad

and new individuals/couples had joined :welcome:
Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcoming evil

and in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry:
This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found support flipa

It just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday smile

Snowhawk ;-)

21 Oct 2007

Quote by snowhawk
Hi Folks,
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved on and new individuals/couples had joined :welcome:
Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcoming and in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry:
This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found support It just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday
Snowhawk ;-)

Of course things have changed - they do, in every aspect of life. People move on, people have breaks then return. SH isn't unique; I don't think it claims to be though. If you've witnessed abuse, report it via the appropriate channels and I'm sure it will be dealt with.

21 Oct 2007

I don't know the reason why you went away from SH Snow, but obviously you did and so do others for a while or forever. For those who come back yes there are new people but let's be honest if everything was to always stay the same, what a boring world we would live in?
It's nice to see you back and my thoughts are just chill out and enjoy the banter with the new faces because you cannot live in the past nor bring the 'oldies' back again. lol

Chin up we're ok really wink

21 Oct 2007

Point of Order:
Moderators have no remit in the Chatrooms - that's what the Ops are for. Moderators work in the Forums.
:P

21 Oct 2007

Quote by Freckledbird
Hi Folks,
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved on and new individuals/couples had joined :welcome:
Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcoming and in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry:
This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found support It just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday
Snowhawk ;-)

Of course things have changed - they do, in every aspect of life. People move on, people have breaks then return. SH isn't unique; I don't think it claims to be though. If you've witnessed abuse, report it via the appropriate channels and I'm sure it will be dealt with.
I obviously failed to get my point across accurately, You're right that things change, and for the better in many cases. What I tried to say was that the chatrooms now seem alot less friendly places than in the past. Less welcoming and friendly. The abuse I spoke of, was reported by apparently, a number of people. So was the abuse at one of the people , well two actually, on cam. Obviously one doesn't expect to go into a room and have everyone greet them unless well known but time was that if you said 'Hi' or whatever people, at least some would answer. That wasn't what I saw or experienced over the last couple of days full rooms down to one other occupant silence. SH provides status signs if people are engaged but obviously they're not that widely used. anyway enough of the beefing. By the way I was away from SH simply thru pressure of work and eating & sleeping during my off times.
Cheers now
Snowhawk ;-)

21 Oct 2007

I can't tend to agree with you...but I can see what you are saying thought.....
In the days of when it was just the one chatroom, then yes, you kind of knew all the people in there... and those people tended to frequented the forum as well...
the chatroom on SH have exploded so the emphasis has changed a bit...more people on the site are using them...
the "generic" rooms are not always the most friendly places... however I have had not had many problems in the "local" chatrooms at all..... my thing at the mo is to spend time in the regional chatrooms all over the country... i love it, talking to new people all over the place......

21 Oct 2007

Quote by jaymar
I don't know the reason why you went away from SH Snow, but obviously you did and so do others for a while or forever. For those who come back yes there are new people but let's be honest if everything was to always stay the same, what a boring world we would live in?
It's nice to see you back and my thoughts are just chill out and enjoy the banter with the new faces because you cannot live in the past nor bring the 'oldies' back again.
Chin up we're ok really

Wow I came across as a real Grumpy old man didn't I :laugh above: I'm not honest, enjoy the same things as most other folk. boink

Although I have a confession to both you and Freckledbird later.. Anyhow I do like people and am happy with new people heck I sped most of everyday with em that wasn't what I meant but enough of that I'll talk to most anyone so see, you have a convert biggrin

oh the confession, oh yes, ............. okay, but remember that inside I'm a really nice person so my friends, (yes I do have them,) say, it's just that... well... I love Marmite !! :wink: bye xx
Snowhawk ;-)

21 Oct 2007

Quote by snowhawk
it's just that... well... I love Marmite !! bye xx
Snowhawk ;-)

:smackbottom: :smackbottom:

21 Oct 2007

Quote by snowhawk
I don't know the reason why you went away from SH Snow, but obviously you did and so do others for a while or forever. For those who come back yes there are new people but let's be honest if everything was to always stay the same, what a boring world we would live in?
It's nice to see you back and my thoughts are just chill out and enjoy the banter with the new faces because you cannot live in the past nor bring the 'oldies' back again.
Chin up we're ok really

Wow I came across as a real Grumpy old man didn't I :laugh above: I'm not honest, enjoy the same things as most other folk. boink

Although I have a confession to both you and Freckledbird later.. Anyhow I do like people and am happy with new people heck I sped most of everyday with em that wasn't what I meant but enough of that I'll talk to most anyone so see, you have a convert biggrin

oh the confession, oh yes, ............. okay, but remember that inside I'm a really nice person so my friends, (yes I do have them,) say, it's just that... well... I love Marmite !! :wink: bye xx
Snowhawk ;-)
:wink: I'm sure you are hinny kiss

now... confession??? :wary:

21 Oct 2007

It is interesting how changes affect different people in different ways.
I remember something Mark, the benevolent BBD, who originated the site said to me many moons ago.
Some of the older hands were complaining that things had changed and he said that they were used to things when they were slower, which is what it was like soon after the site was set up. It was more select and the pace was different - that's all.
The fact is - you join - you like what you see and experience. Then different people and a different environment ensue - you don't like it so much because it is just different.
I remember Davej, a wise man, say that new people and new things are the lifeblood of a place like this. He's right and it does involve things changing.
The moderators do a damn fine job here (creep, creep! rolleyes

) in keeping the Forums well balanced and civilised. It is always going to be more difficult in chat rooms, which are much bigger racier and multi-faceted than they ever used to be.
There've been people around longer than me, who, no doubt, will give you a better insight into changes.
The other big factor is when you've found yer feet in the Forums, you quite often spend lots of time in private conversation with people you've got to know. That can isolate you from getting to know those who are just coming into their full flush of enjoying the Forums (Fora for FB kiss

) and all of a sudden you are the stranger!! :shock:
Hehe - great fun innit!
I love this place.
Sorry for the verbal diarrhoea!!
.

21 Oct 2007

and of course there are the shy and retiring newbies, who INSIST on annoying the regs, by continually starting inane threads on drivel, and posting long and rambling posts in threads that they didnt start!!
wonder WHO on earth these people are :whistle: lol

21 Oct 2007

Quote by Bonedigger
... posting long and rambling posts in threads that they didnt start!!

ops: :oops:
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21 Oct 2007

LOL tune, i was referring to me hunny
lol

:lol: :lol: sometimes i worry that people may think I post too much redface

ops: :oops:

22 Oct 2007

I think the chatrooms can be a bit intimidating at first, but once you gird your loins and start chatting it gets a lot easier.
I agree with fabio in that the local/regional rooms can be very friendly and very supportive once you get to know the people and once they get to know you. And even if they don't know you, the regular chatters will not allow anyone to be insulting or derogative.
A strong room host can also be important, they do have a role to play and the ops and admin are generally pretty good in responding if someone has been abusive. Just make sure you copy the conversation and send it off to them, THEN ask the host to kick the person.
As a community it's up to all of us to make sure no one person can make anyone else feel intimidated or belittled and on the whole I think it works.
There will always be some idiots who have a go at people but i think that reflects far more on who they are than on the people they are attacking - the idiots come out of it looking pathetic and inadequate, it does them no good.
happy chatting biggrin

c & j xx

22 Oct 2007

Quote by curvynjackb
I think the chatrooms can be a bit intimidating at first, but once you gird your loins and start chatting it gets a lot easier.
I agree with fabio in that the local/regional rooms can be very friendly and very supportive once you get to know the people and once they get to know you. And even if they don't know you, the regular chatters will not allow anyone to be insulting or derogative.
A strong room host can also be important, they do have a role to play and the ops and admin are generally pretty good in responding if someone has been abusive. Just make sure you copy the conversation and send it off to them, THEN ask the host to kick the person.
As a community it's up to all of us to make sure no one person can make anyone else feel intimidated or belittled and on the whole I think it works.
There will always be some idiots who have a go at people but i think that reflects far more on who they are than on the people they are attacking - the idiots come out of it looking pathetic and inadequate, it does them no good.
happy chatting
c & j xx

It's just like being in the outside world. People can be scary. That's why I've decided to hide under my duvet.
:silly:

23 Oct 2007

I was away for almost a year and when I got back I felt the same, a stranger where in a place id been made to feel SOOO welcome in the past,Im known again in the chatroom, but most of the people I had fond memories of have moved on,but now know lots of new people, so persevere xxj

23 Oct 2007

Raz, i loves ya hunny kiss

:kiss: :kiss:

23 Oct 2007

Quote by Bonedigger
Raz, i loves ya hunny :kiss: :kiss:

awww fanxxxxxxx u 2 xxj

23 Oct 2007

Quote by curvynjackb
I think the chatrooms can be a bit intimidating at first, but once you gird your loins and start chatting it gets a lot easier.

Whey hey :rascal:
It's amazing how many people come and go, and then there are those that just wont go no matter how much you try to get them to :giggle:
It's a little daunting at first and you always want to go back to the "good ole days" but you eventually get used to it.... I miss some of the people from when I first joined but I do like the diversity of the new people joining as well... Wierd innit?? : :lol2: