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I saw my first set today.
Up and shining brightly in the window of a shop in SE London. The clocks haven't gone back yet. That means it's still technically Summer, FFS.
The way things are going, by 2025, Christmas will be a 12 month thing.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo! I like Xmas but the build up can't begin til December in my book.
It is frankly a load of bollox.
Supermarkets around here have started the usual crap around the end of October.....must be a bloody nightmare if you have kids.
They are simply just cashing in on the bandwagon.
Our town Christmas street lights, though not lit up yet, have been up for over a month now. Crazy as they were only taken down at the end of March! works out at only six months break. So crazy whoever decided this as it's not as though they're are that many or special in anyway, in fact they are, in comparison to most comparable towns, a locally talked about let down
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Our town Christmas street lights, though not lit up yet, have been up for over a month now. Crazy as they were only taken down at the end of March! works out at only six months break. So crazy whoever decided this as it's not as though they're are that many or special in anyway, in fact they are, in comparison to most comparable towns, a locally talked about let down

I can sort of understand councils putting up lights along the High Street or somesuch. They have to get them up and make sure they all work for the big switch on. The ones I saw earlier were just a display in a shop window. Far too early, imo.
Quote by Dave_Desert229
Our town Christmas street lights, though not lit up yet, have been up for over a month now. Crazy as they were only taken down at the end of March! works out at only six months break. So crazy whoever decided this as it's not as though they're are that many or special in anyway, in fact they are, in comparison to most comparable towns, a locally talked about let down

I can sort of understand councils putting up lights along the High Street or somesuch. They have to get them up and make sure they all work for the big switch on. The ones I saw earlier were just a display in a shop window. Far too early, imo.
Wasn't the local branch of xmaslights4u was it? lol
I did once make the mistake of going into a pet shop and asking the woman behind the counter if i could buy a wasp
'we don't sell wasps' she said
'well why have you got one in the window?' i asked?
:haha: bolt
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It is frankly a load of bollox.
Supermarkets around here have started the usual crap around the end of October.....must be a bloody nightmare if you have kids.
They are simply just cashing in on the bandwagon.

As I say year in and year out its a good job not everyone thinks as you do otherwise the economy really would be fucked up lol Some retailers take over 50% of their annual takings in the Christmas period and not the obvious ones either stores such as Comet and Currys. If it was not for the bollox you would be severely more limited on your choice of shopping locations.
Oh well on that crazy argumeny Tweeks.....let the shops have Christmas stuff all year round in their shops eh?
That way the shops can take advantage of Xmas trading from January 1st...
What a brilliant idea eh? loon
You obviously think it is ok to start selling Xmas stuff in October? With those attitudes I am then not suprised why shops cater for people like yourself.
Fuck as an idea let us have Easter eggs in the shops as well to help the shops eh? Then they can kill two birds with one stone.....excellent.
my 13 year old is not happy with the xmas stuff in shops he thinks its far too early and for a 13 year old to say that it must be early lol
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Oh well on that crazy argumeny Tweeks.....let the shops have Christmas stuff all year round in their shops eh?
That way the shops can take advantage of Xmas trading from January 1st...
What a brilliant idea eh? loon
You obviously think it is ok to start selling Xmas stuff in October? With those attitudes I am then not suprised why shops cater for people like yourself.
Fuck as an idea let us have Easter eggs in the shops as well to help the shops eh? Then they can kill two birds with one stone.....excellent.

There are certain times of year that certain items are sold. There are usually three distinct selling periods in retail. Simple business.
What would your idea for a business plan be then? This I would like to see, as all you have done is rubbished Tweeks point, even though it is a standard business plan that has worked for years in Britain.
Last years Christmas stock is usually sold upto and including February. Cristmas stock is starting to come into the wholesalers in the summer, ready for the smaller retailer to start putting it out in September/October. It gives the public the chance to buy the items a bit at a time. So we nearly have all year selling of Christmas stock, just you don't see it.
I can't see a problem in them doing this. As I prefer business to be consumer led then I like having the ability to shop for whatever I want whenever I want and not have some pratt of a businessman decide for me.
Dave__Notts
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Oh well on that crazy argumeny Tweeks.....let the shops have Christmas stuff all year round in their shops eh?
That way the shops can take advantage of Xmas trading from January 1st...
What a brilliant idea eh? loon
You obviously think it is ok to start selling Xmas stuff in October? With those attitudes I am then not suprised why shops cater for people like yourself.
Fuck as an idea let us have Easter eggs in the shops as well to help the shops eh? Then they can kill two birds with one stone.....excellent.

Well actually its their shop so they can do it whenever they like. You and I just have the choice of buy it or not biggrin LIke Dave said this is well known retail strategy and they need it badly. Not sure which one it was but either Curry's or Comet nearly went under a few years back simply on the lack of Christmas stock sold. Whats sold in January and February is often sold at no profit at all and is just to regain the capital that was invested. So dont be surprised to see it out earlier and earlier to get as much sold in time as possible.
OK to business plans and being consumer led, which is bollox really its more a case of the 'consumer being led' business plan. Having the stuff in the shops so early just panics a lot of people into buying so much more than maybe they want. Why do I know this? Because i'm one of those who starts early when the stuff comes into the market place thinking "I'll get it all sorted before the Christmas rush"
Good idea in principle but like most people, or at least most I know, I end up just getting carried along with it all and spending right up to the last minute then regretting it later when the bills come in. And before any smart arse says "That's you being weak" I fu*king know that! But i'm in good company with the majority of households around the country who are normal and bow down to peer pressure and not some of the gifted people who are never influenced by marketing and can brush off the hype without a second thought.
It's a bastard that consumerism and the credit debt that a lot of us end up in is what drives the economy just to let that debt bite us in the arse and get told that we all owe to much on credit and how silly we all are and then when we stop spending then the economy f*cks up. Rock and a hard place come to mind. and the cost is...Miserable/painful f*cking January and February.
As for products being available at Christmas. Its not as if things are not available throughout the year anyway as regards gifts, booze and food, which to my small brain is the average households main cost, it's the peropherals such as cards, lights decorations (although freely available on line 52weeks a year) and trees that are generally seasonal.
Theres a lot of us out there think like 777, for right or wrong, that Christmas trading starting so early is bollox it's talked about on all the mass media its a big talking point and bone of contention with millions of people around the world who like me are easily led by nefarious evil doings of the business market forces. I hate being a mug but realise I've not got much choice with that much weight of commerce against me unless I want to be a miserable Billy no mates. But hey to those sanctimonious self controlled free thinking un-persuadable people out there. At least I help them feel better about themselves for their own powers of restraint and forebearance at this jolly time of year we call Christmas.
F*ck market forces (won't happen in my lifetime unless the balloon goes up) December should be the month where Christmas should appear in the shops and on the streets and middle of January should be when its all done and dusted, including New years celebrating(unless, before anyone points out that other cultures religions etc, Are different)
I'm damned sure if there was a national poll that the government took the information from and implemented then Christmas would indeed be shorter. Won't happen because while we are all held by the balls credit wise we are a malleable docile flock keeping the capitalist dream(nightmare) alive.
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It is frankly a load of bollox.

Is it just me or is this Kent's opening gambit on every thread ? lol surely given the festive nature of this thread it should be changed to "Bah Humbug".
I agree that the decorations and celebrations seem to happen to early but then I don't have to join in do I. I tend to wait till December to get started but the shops have to be ready for me. The shops are merely meeting consumer demand, if the demand wasn't there they wouldn't be setting up for it.
What I object to most at Xmas is the amount of finger shredding packaging you get on kids toys these days, in particular the twisty metal ties.
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It is frankly a load of bollox.

Is it just me or is this Kent's opening gambit on every thread ? lol surely given the festive nature of this thread it should be changed to "Bah Humbug".
Bah humbug my arse.
If you have kids I am sure going out in the holidays like right now for kids, must be a nightmare for parents.
It is a festive thread, but in October ffs.
IF people want to shop for Xmas in October then fine, but there are plenty of people out there who DO think shops selling Xmas stuff in October is bollox.
Davey can say what he likes about consumer led, it is not led by the consumer....it is led by the shops trying to make extra money. Don't kid yourself it is for any other reason.
Quote by kentswingers777
It is frankly a load of bollox.

Is it just me or is this Kent's opening gambit on every thread ? lol surely given the festive nature of this thread it should be changed to "Bah Humbug".
Bah humbug my arse.
If you have kids I am sure going out in the holidays like right now for kids, must be a nightmare for parents.
It is a festive thread, but in October ffs.
IF people want to shop for Xmas in October then fine, but there are plenty of people out there who DO think shops selling Xmas stuff in October is bollox.
Davey can say what he likes about consumer led, it is not led by the consumer....it is led by the shops trying to make extra money. Don't kid yourself it is for any other reason.
Nah, there are plenty out there who dont like the rush and like to go out and do it all early. If it wasn't on offer in the high streets in October they would probably be moaning :lol: Horses for courses I guess. I always book off two days just after November pay day and get 95% of mine done then minus anything special for Mrs Tweeky or little Tweekys. This year with now a distinct lack of family or ones I like anyway :lol: I might be able to save a days leave :mrgreen:
There's nothing stopping anyone doing their Christmas shopping at any time of year. It doesn't need to be splattered across the shops at this time of year. There was Christmas wrapping paper for sale in the shops in Edinburgh in September. Do your shopping whenever you like, but surely it's not such a big problem to wait till Christmas time to buy your wrapping paper? Or buy it in the January sales for the following year if you need to count the pennies.
That's the choice of the people. The choice of the retail market is to do it as early as possible and exploit the minds of children and dement the minds of parents.
I bought a box of chocolates for a friend's birthday a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't till I got home and started wrapping them that I noticed that they were Christmas chocolates. The box was pale blue but had baubles on it. rolleyes
It'll teach me to be a little more observant but I don't want Christmas chocolates in October!
The Dome in George Street has had its Christmas decorations up for at least three weeks.
There's just no need. confused 1st December is plenty soon enough.
*firmly in the bah humbug camp*
december is def plenty soon enough to start
these days with it starting so early in the year i am completely pissed off with it by the time the actual day arrives
me a humbug ohh yes for sure
FB finds a comfy place in the bah humbug camp.
I only do the Tweeky camp I am one of Losts unaffected by advertising promotions and all that stuff people. Dont do fashion dont do buying the latest technology or any of that rubbish. If shops want Christmas decoration and sales stuff up do I care? I think not. Do I notice? Nah, I just get the bread and the cauliflower and head to the check out same as normal. Does it bother me that it annoys other people? No, in fact I find mildly amusing that it annoys other people :twisted: In fact I may just start humming Christmas tunes loudly as I skip around my local Asda.
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I hate being a mug but realise I've not got much choice with that much weight of commerce against me unless I want to be a miserable Billy no mates. But hey to those sanctimonious self controlled free thinking un-persuadable people out there. At least I help them feel better about themselves for their own powers of restraint and forebearance at this jolly time of year we call Christmas.

:thumbup: ...Yep thanks for that ...:thumbup:#
Just glad I could help biggrin
Quote by kentswingers777
It is frankly a load of bollox.

Is it just me or is this Kent's opening gambit on every thread ? lol surely given the festive nature of this thread it should be changed to "Bah Humbug".
Bah humbug my arse.
If you have kids I am sure going out in the holidays like right now for kids, must be a nightmare for parents.
It is a festive thread, but in October ffs.
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I do have kids, I'm a single dad, but they also know if I say no I mean it. IF they try and pressure me into anything it backfires on them, so they're pretty good. There's no nightmare here ( well maybe at Halloween )
I agree it's too soon for the Dec's but as I don't go to the shops that often it's not a big issue to me. The thing is if it didn't have an effect they wouldn't do it and the effect must be large enough to show on the finances or the top brass wouldn't care.
It is down to individuals and taking responsibility for their own lives.
It is so much easier to blame others than take responsibility for your own decisions. But thats the way we seem to be moving. Thankfully not everyone but enough for it to seem that lots are like that. Their weakness feeds the retailers who do what retailers do.....retail.
I plan and keep within my budget. When I buy is dependant on many factors but when they put it in the stores is not one of them. That is just a convenience to me.
Dave_Notts
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It is down to individuals and taking responsibility for their own lives.
It is so much easier to blame others than take responsibility for your own decisions. But thats the way we seem to be moving. Thankfully not everyone but enough for it to seem that lots are like that. Their weakness feeds the retailers who do what retailers do.....retail.
I plan and keep within my budget. When I buy is dependant on many factors but when they put it in the stores is not one of them. That is just a convenience to me.
Dave_Notts

Well all i can say Dave is by and large your in the f*cking minority. Come off it your telling me that no marketing and advertising effects the way you spend? I apologise for being cynical but that's hard to believe. Your telling me that smelling fresh bread in supermarkets has no subliminal effects or that a favourite racing driver advertises a car or car product cant influence you in how you make a purchase or pictures in magazines for holidays or the endless things it could be. Surely we are all victims of consumerism to a lesser or greater degree.
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It's a f*cking good job in a capitalist society that the populace is subject to the persuasions of commerce or else capitalism would be bolloxed and it most certainly isn't, its thriving. If a person has time to analyse everything they purchase or even extol the these things to others then they must live in some sort of million hour day.
Of course its all our own fault that we are subject to these things but hang on a minute. I can be persuaded by a quicker cleverer mind who can argue something better than me so I capitulate and end up agreeing with them but thats not to say they are right just that they are clever and quicker than me. So it is with advertising and business, they pick weaknesses and exploit them.
Who is at fault if one person is more clever or more persuasive than another and sells them something that maybe not needed but have been convinced they do? The quicker witted one for using their skill to advantage or the gullible one for having it happen to them eh? How do you classify the gullible one, in the wrong for not being as clever as the clever one? That smells of nasty to me.
Sometimes the self righteous people of the world should just so thank their lucky stars as its all just so easy and perfect for them. However, in my world we live with our faults and our foibles for good or bad but at least its not so wholesome a sanctimonious not to have come straight out of a bottle of Dettol as to be so clinical that if all of us were that way, Aldous Huxley and a myriad of other people, could not of written the books they did because we'd already be there living in them!
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Well all i can say Dave is by and large your in the f*cking minority. Come off it your telling me that no marketing and advertising effects the way you spend? I apologise for being cynical but that's hard to believe. Your telling me that smelling fresh bread in supermarkets has no subliminal effects or that a favourite racing driver advertises a car or car product cant influence you in how you make a purchase or pictures in magazines for holidays or the endless things it could be. Surely we are all victims of consumerism to a lesser or greater degree.

The difference between me and others Lost is that I recognise what they do. Do I fall for it? In some instances I will but I made that decision and I take responsibilty for that action. I do not blame others for that.
Being in the minority is not always a bad thing Lost lol
Dave_Notts
Oh, on the subject of Christmas lights, personally I prefer something prog rock based and spotted this

And to liven the debate up even more, and get all parents, etc. worried about what to get as presents whilst the kids are distracted by all the lights....
The full list of the predicted Christmas best-sellers is:
- City Airport ( )
- Fireman Sam Deluxe Fire Station Playset ( )
- FurReal Go Go Walking Pup ( )
- Jet Pack Buzz Lightyear ( )
- Kidizoom VideoCam ( )
- Monopoly Revolution ( )
- Moon Dough Barn ( )
- Nerf N Strike Stampede ECS ( )
- Paper Jamz Guitar ( )
- "Pumpaloons" - action game ( )
- Sylvanian Families Motorcycle and Sidecar ( )
- ZhuZhu Grooming Salon ( ).
Well that's what the industy expect to be top sellers, but what do they know lol
Quote by HnS
Oh, on the subject of Christmas lights, personally I prefer something prog rock based and spotted this

And to liven the debate up even more, and get all parents, etc. worried about what to get as presents whilst the kids are distracted by all the lights....
The full list of the predicted Christmas best-sellers is:
- City Airport ( )
- Fireman Sam Deluxe Fire Station Playset ( )
- FurReal Go Go Walking Pup ( )
- Jet Pack Buzz Lightyear ( )
- Kidizoom VideoCam ( )
- Monopoly Revolution ( )
- Moon Dough Barn ( )
- Nerf N Strike Stampede ECS ( )
- Paper Jamz Guitar ( )
- "Pumpaloons" - action game ( )
- Sylvanian Families Motorcycle and Sidecar ( )
- ZhuZhu Grooming Salon ( ).
Well that's what the industy expect to be top sellers, but what do they know lol

Well I guess I must be lucky cos just like me ( and Dave_Notts ) my kids aren't swayed by the add's as I've shown them how to see through the hype to what they want rather than what they're fed in the ad's. None of those things are on the kids radar.
It might not be xmas yet but I can still appreciate that vid though. good stuff :-)
Quote by motorcyclerob
Oh, on the subject of Christmas lights, personally I prefer something prog rock based and spotted this

And to liven the debate up even more, and get all parents, etc. worried about what to get as presents whilst the kids are distracted by all the lights....
The full list of the predicted Christmas best-sellers is:
- City Airport ( )
- Fireman Sam Deluxe Fire Station Playset ( )
- FurReal Go Go Walking Pup ( )
- Jet Pack Buzz Lightyear ( )
- Kidizoom VideoCam ( )
- Monopoly Revolution ( )
- Moon Dough Barn ( )
- Nerf N Strike Stampede ECS ( )
- Paper Jamz Guitar ( )
- "Pumpaloons" - action game ( )
- Sylvanian Families Motorcycle and Sidecar ( )
- ZhuZhu Grooming Salon ( ).
Well that's what the industy expect to be top sellers, but what do they know lol

Well I guess I must be lucky cos just like me ( and Dave_Notts ) my kids aren't swayed by the add's as I've shown them how to see through the hype to what they want rather than what they're fed in the ad's. None of those things are on the kids radar.
It might not be xmas yet but I can still appreciate that vid though. good stuff :-)
:thumbup: We have told mini Meeko that he is getting no presents this year. Santa has been made redundant due to the cuts in the public sector by the Tory goverment.
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We have told mini Meeko that he is getting no presents this year. Santa has been made redundant due to the cuts in the public sector by the Tory goverment.

You tight arse rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Its like the guy who took a twelve bore outside., shot into the air and told the kids that Santa has had a terrible accident so no presents this year.
Dave_Notts
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We have told mini Meeko that he is getting no presents this year. Santa has been made redundant due to the cuts in the public sector by the Tory goverment.

You tight arse rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Its like the guy who took a twelve bore outside., shot into the air and told the kids that Santa has had a terrible accident so no presents this year.
Dave_Notts
Bloody hell is nothing kept a secret in this house banghead
Remember when I was young and still believed in the fat bloke in the red suit my cousins used to be given there presents on xmas day then they were taken back off them the same night and put away for the next year.
Quote by Meeko
We have told mini Meeko that he is getting no presents this year. Santa has been made redundant due to the cuts in the public sector by the Tory goverment.

You tight arse rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Its like the guy who took a twelve bore outside., shot into the air and told the kids that Santa has had a terrible accident so no presents this year.
Dave_Notts
Bloody hell is nothing kept a secret in this house banghead
Remember when I was young and still believed in the fat bloke in the red suit my cousins used to be given there presents on xmas day then they were taken back off them the same night and put away for the next year.
I still believe ......he lives with me! :giggle: