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Quote by deancannock
What about you went down the pub,....and they said sorry we have more men than women in here and we trying to encourage them in....so you as a male will have to pay three times more for your drink, than the female. Would you consider this be acceptable practise ?

i must say that if the pub/club has a bouncer they do at times stop groups of single males going in, if the mix isn't right in order to prevent "fights" over the single women.... i'm sure, that if they could charge extra for guys to curtail this, they would. however pubs/clubs are public venues as opposed to private members clubs who can charge what they want to who they want.
The Greenhouse has equal entrance fees for all and is only round the corner from Chams - go there, problem solved.
Dean you could easily be mistaken for a gal biggrin I think they should pay us to go these clubs :D never mind chargin us to get in!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
RSPCA is needed me thinks any one got there number biggrin
tend to agree with Dean, whenever we've been to chams - there has been a lack of single men, so perhaps the prices in clubs need to be reduced slightly
The attitude of some in this thread is symbolic of so many things that are wrong with attitudes in our country.
Let's be clear and honest about the real world -
Life is not fair !! You make your own luck, shit happens, just get on with it.
I am based in a place at the moment where every bar and nightclub advertises the folowing:
"Girls Drink Free" "Girls - No Cover & Drink For Free"
No point in moaning about it - it is their commercial decision to do that.
Oh - One more thing (well two actually)
Comparing a Swingers Club to a Pub?? Are you sure??
And the second thing for whoever was asking we will next be at Chams 2nd or 3rd Friday in November. We prefer Fridays cos there is a great mix of couples and singles - all happy and all up for some kind of sexy fun - which to us, is what a Swingers Club is all about.
Course - if the thought is to socialise - well yes £30 is a bit much to go someplace for a friendly chat.
(Dean not having a go at you honest - just thinkyou are a bit off the mark here - come on shake yourself out of the mindset!! cool
Quote by Too Hot
The attitude of some in this thread is symbolic of so many things that are wrong with attitudes in our country.
Let's be clear and honest about the real world -
Life is not fair !! You make your own luck, shit happens, just get on with it.

well thank the lord this country hasn't got that attitude. surely we fight and change the injustices. Perhaps you would have prefered women still didn't have right to vote.....or kids still went up chimneys...or we still had colour bars. Maybe its just life deal with it. NO...we openly say when things are wrong and deal with it.
If a club was saying " whites Only " would people stand by and say..its their commercial decision ..deal with it. No people would say it was wrong.
What some of the comments on here does smack of is ...
I'm alright jack..screw you.
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I dont care how much single guys pay but you would think that with the money that Chams take they would sort out the bloody key on a rubber band thing!
Its bad enough that single men line up and wait for action or stick like flies when a woman goes into the jucuzzi but why oh why do as soon as they start wanking...the key jingles faster and faster and really puts us off???
LEAVE YOUR KEY OFF if you need to wank!!! grrrrrrrr
Quote by Lassy09
I dont care how much single guys pay but you would think that with the money that Chams take they would sort out the bloody key on a rubber band thing!
Its bad enough that single men line up and wait for action or stick like flies when a woman goes into the jucuzzi but why oh why do as soon as they start wanking...the key jingles faster and faster and really puts us off???
LEAVE YOUR KEY OFF if you need to wank!!! grrrrrrrr

Maybe the key is there to warn others that a wanker is about .. bit like a bell on a cats coller warning birds bolt
lol well try i guess your my little pussy lol
no in all seriousness...I think single guys are getting a bit stupid now at Chams, when they pay to get in im sure they leave respect at the door (however im not talking all men here) but i was at Chams this week and they were even hanging around the showers just to see a naked woman! they dont give you room to move and you cant sit in the jucuzzi without a pack of them entering!
I think them paying more than a couple is fine to be honest as they spoil it for single women and couples by not allowing them space to move. If thats what some couples/women like then fair enough but many a time ive been there ive heard people complaining about the men clinging just for a bit of hope.
I don’t for one minute believe that having a higher entrance and membership fee for men deters them from joining a club. There are men out there that will pay what ever it takes in the hope of getting shag or have a perve. All it does is it makes a bigger short term profit for the club. What it does do is it deters a lot of genuine men who have respect for others and are capable of thinking with their heads and not their dicks or wallets. A club is for meeting others and not for the sole purpose of sex. I’m sure many people who go to clubs don’t always play while there, but still have an enjoyable time being with others i.e. meeting their friends.
Having the right type of people in any social situation creates a friendly and happy atmosphere and maybe the clubs should think about the people coming through their door. If the mixture of people is right, the bank balance can also be right by offering value for money without people feeling that they are being ripped off.
Since the couples and females are saying that most single men at clubs make them feel intimidated and uncomfortable then it is obvious that the wrong type of men are being attracted and the price policy is not working. Clubs need to think about the quality of the person not the quantity of his wallet
I havent read all the replies so apologies if this has been said before .
Couples often have to pay babysitters so they can go out. I know some single men do too, but the majority ( if they are really single ) don't have that expense. It is probably £20 ish a night.
Also couples spend twice as much at the bar , 2 people = 2 drinks , so they pay their revenue that way.
It works out about even if you really think about it .
If i owned a club i would look at what it costs to buy the place , what it costs to maintain it, what it costs to upgrade it, to clean it, to pay staff, to pay the electricity bill etc etc etc .
The guy who owns this is not a charitable organisation - he runs a profit making business and i bet hes laughing reading these threads.
Whilst i would love it to be cheaper so that i could go more often i also realise thay if i wasnt paid i wouldnt work.
If it was cheaper what standards would u get in there.
Come on fokes stop windging or do something about it - open your own club and charge everyone a fiver to get in.
Walk a mile in their shoes. I'm just glad we have a good club locally.
missing the point here midsprincess.....
not complaining at all about the cost.
commenting on..and questioning the differential in costs between single guys...and anyone else !!!
Quote by deancannock
missing the point here midsprincess.....
not complaining at all about the cost.
commenting on..and questioning the differential in costs between single guys...and anyone else !!!

I don't think midsp is missing the point at all dean.
It's called supply and demand. I realise that, as it's a free enterprise, you won't like it but it's there all the same. If the single men want a free perve and a wnak at someone else's expense, then let them open their own club wink
I think you should graciously accept defeat Dean - not sure why you have picked on this bone to shake around.
You are surely missing the point yourself aren't you? Imagine that you owned the Club, or a Club - how would you market it - to ensure that it was popular and earned you a good few quid as well.
Ideally you want single women so you need to encourage single women to come in, then you need couples because after all couples is where the heart of swinging is, and then you need a selection of single guys.
In an ideal socialist world where everything is pink and gorgeous and equal and smlls of roses, your argument is fine - but unfortunately, the real world is not like that and despite your objection to it - "life generally, is not fair," and it is up to each of us to make our own luck and accept that we sometimes just have to get on with things.
Just for your info - this is what a trip to Chams costs us as a couple:
babysitter friday night £25
petrol to/from Midlands £30
Overnight (minimum) £35
Entry £20
Why dont you just look at it as most people do - an occasional bit of fun for £30 - which is all it will cost you cos you live so local? when you compare that to the costs of other types of entertainment in the outside world it is a bargain.
Honestly Dean, you should be delighted that you have (arguably) the best facility of its kind in the UK and the fact that couples travel from all over the UK to go there. The guy that owns it - runs it just right and I hope he is making an absolute fortune because he has got it spot on.
Oh - BTW Some Clubs in France allow very well endowed black men in for FREE - we wont go down that road eh ??
Come on Dean - snap out of it biggrin
i think its very unfair that single guys pay such a high difference to get into a swinging club.
maybe this is down to me being a single female? i dunno.
ok here are my thoughts, and bear with me even i dont always understand the thoughts...
swinging isnt to me just couples swapping, its not called a swapping club.
i guess couples go who like to be watched
who like to have straight MMF
who like to have bi MMF
who like to watch their female half have sex with other guys.
i guess single females go who like to be watched.
who like to play with 1 guy
who like to play with 2 guys
who like to play with 3 guys... ok you get the way thats going lol
i guess males go who like to just watch couples have sex.
who like to have sex with couples, who like to have sex with males, who like to have sex with single females etc etc.
Now.. forgive me if im wrong but dont people have to join and become members of these clubs before they can go in?
To me a club i went to for sex would be pointless without a good selection of single males, so i dont see the problem with allowing single males in, and im guessing nor do the clubs,, so why the hell disrespect them and their actuall usefullness by charging them so much more different than a single female??
i again am guessing that the numbers of genders are toted up as people go in, so if the club feels there are enough of one type in the club they could/would refuse access , so why the need to charge more in the con of saying its to limit the numbers of single males??
I think i would actually feel very uncomfortable going and getting in for free if i knew guys were made to pay so much more, it would make me feel like a commodity.
xx fem xxx
Supply & demand fem - normal commercial practice. he Club owner runs it as a business and not a charity.
i demand lots of men lol i hope he can supply me lol
i actually did think in my innocence that with all the combinations a single guy could be good for would mean there is a demand.
it sucks xx fem xx
FEM - Go to France. Well endowed black men get in some of the Clubs for free. They have to prove it and the generally accepted thought is that very BBC will be an attraction.
At the Le Glamour foam party we went to in July women were queing to get their chops around this one guys appendage. I can honestly say I have never seen anything like it even in films and most women could hardly even get the head of it in their mouth !!
I have to say not really sure it has much to do with the cost issues as in chams as that is the example in op.
Surely if u have given for example 100 single memberships out to 100 men, whats to say that all these 100 men wish to attend every day of the week?
What my point is people have lifes outside of swinging, so by limiting the single males memberships u have no garentee if and when these guys are going to attend. For example, sticking with 100 membership for single males (know this is low just a simple round number)there is no garentee that all 100% of these guys are gonna turn up, 1 night it might be 25 , another time it could be 75%, but by limiting the memberships, u are restricted as to how many are then there.
The thing is aswell, even with the membership restriction, many times on many threads or reviews we have read that clubs are over run with single males? so surely ur never gonna win either way?
Not sure if this makes much sense but ive tried lol no doubt i be back to edit at least a few times lol
just being devils advocate here but heres a thought
so single guys pay £30 to get in and single fems only £5. This is sexest! Today single fems earn as much as single guys so why not charge them the same as single guys?
or why not charge every single person £15 to get in?
Or why not charge me nothin coz im broke?
or if u come in a big car or a new car charge them £50 little car £30, taxi £20 bus £10 walkers free theres a good system
do they take luncheon vouchers????
Quote by Lassy09
lol well try i guess your my little pussy lol
no in all seriousness...I think single guys are getting a bit stupid now at Chams, when they pay to get in im sure they leave respect at the door (however im not talking all men here) but i was at Chams this week and they were even hanging around the showers just to see a naked woman! they dont give you room to move and you cant sit in the jucuzzi without a pack of them entering!
I think them paying more than a couple is fine to be honest as they spoil it for single women and couples by not allowing them space to move. If thats what some couples/women like then fair enough but many a time ive been there ive heard people complaining about the men clinging just for a bit of hope.
we agree totally
brucie wrote:
problem is that single guys are also the number one complaint in clubs. I am very close to the management in one club and almost all their complaints are about single guys being rude or pushy.
i know its not all single guys but the stigma is there.
also charging single guys more is surely a form of prostitution? they are paying a premium for the promise of sex. what other reason can there be for charging them more? they use less electricity and hot water...

I wasn't aware clubs offered the promise of sex to anyone whether singles or couples (unless they employ working girls), or am I just disillusioned and misinformed.
The price structuring will always be a mistery as to how clubs justify the pricing ( all clubs offering different structures) but like it's ben said many times before the only way to do anything about it is either vote with your feet and stay away or open your own venues to address this issue.
I am fully aware the charge men more but there is no 'promise' of sex to them. If they choose to pay more in the hope of getting some fun then that's up to them.
I definately wouldn't say I'm niave, I was simple raising a point to you saying that clubs promise single guys sex. The only clubs I know to that do that are the ones who employ working girls.
Quote by brucie
ok, if you want to get picky, they imply a promise.

That would appear to be the case in your head. However, you'd best hope the aesthetically pleasing people are in the club that night so you can cash in on your promised shag! wink