so another child has been savaged by a rotwieller dog..
this subject raises it head more and more frequently these days, as a dog owner Im not anti dog . But also as a parent of young children Im concerned, very concerned.
In allmost all cases the dog has been described as " a big freindly dog " , " would not hurt anyone " .
But they did .....
What is the answer?.
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Quote by leroy1867
The question had to be asked why the dog did what it did.....
Was the child provoking it?
Did it have that nature?
Was the dog really friendly at all?
I think untill this can be answered we can't explain anything about what happened.
In the most recent attack which I think mezagog is refering too the child was 5 months old and not in the immediate area of the dogs. Apparently they went from the roof into the living quarters and dragged the child back onto the roof.
Quote by BiWelshMinx
The question had to be asked why the dog did what it did.....
Was the child provoking it?
Did it have that nature?
Was the dog really friendly at all?
I think untill this can be answered we can't explain anything about what happened.
In the most recent attack which I think mezagog is refering too the child was 5 months old and not in the immediate area of the dogs. Apparently they went from the roof into the living quarters and dragged the child back onto the roof.
The first child was 5 months and asleep at the time,the second child was two.....so was the children provoking these dogs.....its highly unlikely!
Sexlightened
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
Sexlightened
Quote by BiWelshMinx
The question had to be asked why the dog did what it did.....
Was the child provoking it?
Did it have that nature?
Was the dog really friendly at all?
I think untill this can be answered we can't explain anything about what happened.
In the most recent attack which I think mezagog is refering too the child was 5 months old and not in the immediate area of the dogs. Apparently they went from the roof into the living quarters and dragged the child back onto the roof.
I heard the dog was in the house or pub with the child, then took the child upto the roof
and as far as i know the 2nd little boy was one yr old
Quote by BiWelshMinx
The question had to be asked why the dog did what it did.....
Was the child provoking it?
Did it have that nature?
Was the dog really friendly at all?
I think untill this can be answered we can't explain anything about what happened.
In the most recent attack which I think mezagog is refering too the child was 5 months old and not in the immediate area of the dogs. Apparently they went from the roof into the living quarters and dragged the child back onto the roof.
Just an update there has been another attack last night , again the dog got out from where it was supposed to be and attacked a child further down the road . A nieghbour beat the dog off the child with a hammer, the child is in serious condition in hospital.
Quote by Young_Swingers
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
Quote by da69ve
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
As I said we have a dog ,she is old and now not very mobile , We had her before the kids were even thought about . The fact is we have made the decision allready that we wont have another as our children and their safety have to come first
Sexlightened
Quote by da69ve
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
u have to be coutious with any dog around any child, no matter if its a rotweiller or yorki, all dogs CAN be dangerous, but like i said i would never leave my child alone, where as these children where alone when the attach began
Quote by Young_Swingers
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no circumstances would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
I don't blame you for being cautious, it's sensible, but every Rotweiller I have ever met has been a charming and wonderful dog, (I like dogs, they like me). I think there are two criteria here:
1. The dogs owners. Dogs kept purely as guard dogs are more likely to be difficult, damn difficult, than those kept indoors as pets. 99% of the time it's the owner who ultimately causes the problem. Like Alsatians, always worry about the owner and therefore the dogs when they are called Prince or King!
2. Keeping two dogs together of the same breed is asking for it if they are big dogs. They become a pack and you are not necessarily pack leader when push comes to shove. I approve of keeping two dogs together and don't like the idea of a dog kept without companionship of its own kind, but choose dogs with different character traits, it's much safer.
Quote by da69ve
The question had to be asked why the dog did what it did.....
Was the child provoking it?
Did it have that nature?
Was the dog really friendly at all?
I think untill this can be answered we can't explain anything about what happened.
In the most recent attack which I think mezagog is refering too the child was 5 months old and not in the immediate area of the dogs. Apparently they went from the roof into the living quarters and dragged the child back onto the roof.
The first child was 5 months and asleep at the time,the second child was two.....so was the children provoking these dogs.....its highly unlikely!
Fair point however I didnt know these details when I posted. Now you have to wonder why the dog did it.
Quote by Young_Swingers
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
u have to be coutious with any dog around any child, no matter if its a rotweiller or yorki, all dogs CAN be dangerous, but like i said i would never leave my child alone, where as these children where alone when the attach began
in the latest attack the dog went down the road into someones garden to get to the child, thats not really leaving the child alone with the dog. it was not their dog
Sexlightened
1. The dogs owners. Dogs kept purely as guard dogs are more likely to be difficult, damn difficult, than those kept indoors as pets. 99% of the time it's the owner who ultimately causes the problem. Like Alsatians, always worry about the owner and therefore the dogs when they are called Prince or King!
2. Keeping two dogs together of the same breed is asking for it if they are big dogs. They become a pack and you are not necessarily pack leader when push comes to shove. I approve of keeping two dogs together and don't like the idea of a dog kept without companionship of its own kind, but choose dogs with different character traits, it's much safer.
I agree but our dogs are not big breed of rotty, there smaller than labs and they are pets not guard dogs, the 1st child that was attcked was attcked by guard dogs, but they havent said weather the second one was or wasnt
2. Keeping two dogs together of the same breed is asking for it if they are big dogs. They become a pack and you are not necessarily pack leader when push comes to shove. I approve of keeping two dogs together and don't like the idea of a dog kept without companionship of its own kind, but choose dogs with different character traits, it's much safer.
I agree but our dogs are not big breed of rotty, there smaller than labs and they are pets not guard dogs, the 1st child that was attcked was attcked by guard dogs, but they havent said weather the second one was or wasnt
Quote by leroy1867
Fair point however I didnt know these details when I posted. Now you have to wonder why the dog did it.
Because it's a dog. Although it may have been domesticated it is still an animal.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Quote by Young_Swingers
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
u have to be coutious with any dog around any child, no matter if its a rotweiller or yorki, all dogs CAN be dangerous, but like i said i would never leave my child alone, where as these children where alone when the attach began
The dogs were not left alone with the 5 month old child.....one got off the flat roof they were on and found the child asleep in a room.....and dragged it back on the roof...are you telling me you've never had to leave the room at anytime while the dogs were with your child?
Quote by Young_Swingers
1. The dogs owners. Dogs kept purely as guard dogs are more likely to be difficult, damn difficult, than those kept indoors as pets. 99% of the time it's the owner who ultimately causes the problem. Like Alsatians, always worry about the owner and therefore the dogs when they are called Prince or King!
2. Keeping two dogs together of the same breed is asking for it if they are big dogs. They become a pack and you are not necessarily pack leader when push comes to shove. I approve of keeping two dogs together and don't like the idea of a dog kept without companionship of its own kind, but choose dogs with different character traits, it's much safer.
I agree but our dogs are not big breed of rotty, there smaller than labs and they are pets not guard dogs, the 1st child that was attcked was attcked by guard dogs, but they havent said weather the second one was or wasnt
from the reports it looks as if it may be a gaurd dog,, nieghbors say it was usually chained up
Quote by Kiss
Fair point however I didnt know these details when I posted. Now you have to wonder why the dog did it.
Because it's a dog. Although it may have been domesticated it is still an animal.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Agreed Kiss......
Sexlightened
Quote by mezagog
1. The dogs owners. Dogs kept purely as guard dogs are more likely to be difficult, damn difficult, than those kept indoors as pets. 99% of the time it's the owner who ultimately causes the problem. Like Alsatians, always worry about the owner and therefore the dogs when they are called Prince or King!
2. Keeping two dogs together of the same breed is asking for it if they are big dogs. They become a pack and you are not necessarily pack leader when push comes to shove. I approve of keeping two dogs together and don't like the idea of a dog kept without companionship of its own kind, but choose dogs with different character traits, it's much safer.
I agree but our dogs are not big breed of rotty, there smaller than labs and they are pets not guard dogs, the 1st child that was attcked was attcked by guard dogs, but they havent said weather the second one was or wasnt
from the reports it looks as if it may be a gaurd dog,, nieghbors say it was usually chained up
I have heard of alot of reports about people beating there dogs to make them more aggresive, and it makes u wonder y they attack :confused:
Because it's a dog. Although it may have been domesticated it is still an animal.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Is this not getting into a whole debate about why animals and people do anything? Why did the dog attack the child, why did it choose to go into a room and attack a little baby who presumably it was ment to be guarding?
Thats a question to answer but on a larger scale why do people commit murder or robbery or such like, there must be an overall reason for something to happen.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Is this not getting into a whole debate about why animals and people do anything? Why did the dog attack the child, why did it choose to go into a room and attack a little baby who presumably it was ment to be guarding?
Thats a question to answer but on a larger scale why do people commit murder or robbery or such like, there must be an overall reason for something to happen.
Sexlightened
Quote by da69ve
We have 2 Rotweillers and a young child and under no cercumstancies would i ever leave my daughter alone with them, my dogs are soooooo soft natured and would give u a nasty lick rather than a bite but you can never take that chance with any dogs.
But i think something must have happened for the dog to do what it did.
this is what make me shake my head!...so you have two Rottweilers and a young child but as you said you would never leave them alone with the child.....so the thought is always there that they could do something?....why take that chance?
u have to be coutious with any dog around any child, no matter if its a rotweiller or yorki, all dogs CAN be dangerous, but like i said i would never leave my child alone, where as these children where alone when the attach began
The dogs were not left alone with the 5 month old child.....one got off the flat roof they were on and found the child asleep in a room.....and dragged it back on the roof...are you telling me you've never had to leave the room at anytime while the dogs were with your child?
Rite ok, so if these dogs where outside on the flat roof, how did they get in?? Obviously a door must have been left open, knowing the dogs cud get in and the child being asleep alone
Quote by leroy1867
Because it's a dog. Although it may have been domesticated it is still an animal.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Is this not getting into a whole debate about why animals and people do anything? Why did the dog attack the child, why did it choose to go into a room and attack a little baby who presumably it was ment to be guarding?
Thats a question to answer but on a larger scale why do people commit murder or robbery or such like, there must be an overall reason for something to happen.
the dogs were not guarding the baby...it was guarding the pub!
Quote by leroy1867
Because it's a dog. Although it may have been domesticated it is still an animal.
Apparently what makes Rotweillers so dangerous is they don't give much (if any) warning before attacking. Unlike some breeds that bare their teeth and growl etc.
I'm not frightened of dogs at all, however I was bitten (and scarred!) whilst I was in my pushchair and left outside a shop. Also I grew up on a council estate where dogs were let out to roam all day, consequently the pack mentality soon appeared and you had groups of dogs roaming the streets.
Is this not getting into a whole debate about why animals and people do anything? Why did the dog attack the child, why did it choose to go into a room and attack a little baby who presumably it was ment to be guarding?
Thats a question to answer but on a larger scale why do people commit murder or robbery or such like, there must be an overall reason for something to happen.
the original question I was asking is ,
Whats the answer to this problem ?
Yes we a dangerous dogs act ,,the dog cant read it ffs
do we need more legislation on how dogs kept purley as gaurd dogs are handled and kept?
Im sorry ,I cant think how anything can stop this but something has to be done
Sexlightened
Dont no what the answer is but guard dogs attack, thats y there there to attack and to warn off intruders, guard dogs dont get walks, treats, love and attention, they get dumped outside with a chain around there neck, dont see anyone, so they dont no how to react around people,
Quote by da69ve
This isn't purely a problem with guard dogs only!
very true
but its gaurd dogs that have hit the headlines mostly and as far as I can see are the only ones that can have some sort of legislation on them , domestic pets would be minefield ,, but then again Its all a minefield really
Sex God
Quote by Young_Swingers
Dont no what the answer is but guard dogs attack, thats y there there to attack and to warn off intruders, guard dogs dont get walks, treats, love and attention,
Quote by da69ve
This isn't purely a problem with guard dogs only!
That's true. My neighbour's child was attacked at the age of 20 months and scarred for life after the family pet tore half her face off in an unprovoked attack.
It was a Border collie and subsequently destroyed, but the child will carry the scars forever, both mentally and physically.
When she started school just over a year ago, she went through hell with all the other kids asking what was wrong with her face and it bought it all back to her
Dogs can never be trusted whether they are pets or otherwise. A dog is an animal and as such unpredictable, no matter how much love, attention and treats they get given
TJ
Quote by mezagog
This isn't purely a problem with guard dogs only!
very true
but its gaurd dogs that have hit the headlines mostly and as far as I can see are the only ones that can have some sort of legislation on them , domestic pets would be minefield ,, but then again Its all a minefield really
There not really proper guard dogs though are they......i mean properly trained guard dogs....just big ,mean ,dangerous animals.......with no training in the task they have been given.
