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I've not been on a diet (except once on donuts to gain weight and that didn't work)
However as I understand it, if you deprive your body of enough calories it switches to a 'starvation' mode - as it feels that food is hard to come by. As a result it starts 'saving' any spare food for harder times and, yup, it get stored as fat. Which is why the yo-yo diet if a famous effect. Lose weight and prime your body to lay down more fat.
Not much help I know, but something to be aware of. In essence a calorie-restricted weight-loss never ends, if you get to your target weight and eat more again any extra calories will be converted to fat - sorry.
I'd suggest that you try to lose weight slowly (at the same time scale as you gained it) and by exercise. Eat less meat and processed foods (i.e. anything in a packet). run about a lot and only take a weekly or monthly rolling average of weight change (daily is too variable and encourages 'crash' diets). learn to hate convenience - cars, lifts, remote controls, TV and so on.... they are mostly American and mostly aimed at saving effort.
Don't buy 'low fat' products as they are usually full of sugar and vise versa. buy a wartime cookery book as they are the healthiest generation I know of.
and so on.....
:welcome: to the forum Mike. Some very sound advice there! Too sound, in fact. You sure you're not a woman lol
Quote by mike4sex
I've not been on a diet (except once on donuts to gain weight and that didn't work)
However as I understand it, if you deprive your body of enough calories it switches to a 'starvation' mode - as it feels that food is hard to come by. As a result it starts 'saving' any spare food for harder times and, yup, it get stored as fat. Which is why the yo-yo diet if a famous effect. Lose weight and prime your body to lay down more fat.
Not much help I know, but something to be aware of. In essence a calorie-restricted weight-loss never ends, if you get to your target weight and eat more again any extra calories will be converted to fat - sorry.
I'd suggest that you try to lose weight slowly (at the same time scale as you gained it) and by exercise. Eat less meat and processed foods (i.e. anything in a packet). run about a lot and only take a weekly or monthly rolling average of weight change (daily is too variable and encourages 'crash' diets). learn to hate convenience - cars, lifts, remote controls, TV and so on.... they are mostly American and mostly aimed at saving effort.
Don't buy 'low fat' products as they are usually full of sugar and vise versa. buy a wartime cookery book as they are the healthiest generation I know of.
and so on.....

:welcome: indeed Mike... cheers for the advice and support.
Nola x
:smug: I'm on day two of the diet.
I feel surprisingly virtuous... not to mention a tad smug.
rolleyes How long d'ya reckon it'll last?!
lol Nola x
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:smug: I'm on day two of the diet.
I feel surprisingly virtuous... not to mention a tad smug.
rolleyes How long d'ya reckon it'll last?!
lol Nola x

As long as your will power permits!
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:smug: I'm on day two of the diet.
I feel surprisingly virtuous... not to mention a tad smug.
rolleyes How long d'ya reckon it'll last?!
lol Nola x

As long as your will power permits!
See, now there's the problem.... :lol:
The best way to start any diet is to go back to basic biology 101.
Once you figure out how you put on weight. It’s a simple matter of stop doing it, easy.
In a nut shell, Insulin is the hormone responsible for storing body fat. Your Insulin levels rise when your blood sugars rises, your blood sugars rise when ya eat sugar.
The insulin’s job is to lower blood sugar as high blood sugars are dangerous, so insulin utilises some of the sugars as energy and then stores the rest in fat cells, the trouble is, once your blood sugars are low again there is still a lot of insulin in the body which carries on mopping up blood sugar and storing it as fat which brings your blood sugar low again which in turn causes you to be hungry again , so you eat something else and the cycle continues.
So the solution is, stop eating sugar. Very simple.
Now all you got to remember is sugar = carbohydrates. Doesn’t matter what it’s called, Starch, sugar, fructose, glucose, lactose, simple carbs, complex carbs, low GI, high Gi as far as your internal mechanisms are concerned it’s all turned into glucose and raises blood sugar.
So cut out the fruit and fruit juice, potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, and breakfast cereals and lose weight.
I’ve been following my own advice for the last few months and lost about 3 ½ stone.
Quote by mike4sex
I've not been on a diet (except once on donuts to gain weight and that didn't work)
However as I understand it, if you deprive your body of enough calories it switches to a 'starvation' mode - as it feels that food is hard to come by. As a result it starts 'saving' any spare food for harder times and, yup, it get stored as fat. Which is why the yo-yo diet if a famous effect. Lose weight and prime your body to lay down more fat.
Don't buy 'low fat' products as they are usually full of sugar and vise versa. buy a wartime cookery book as they are the healthiest generation I know of.
and so on.....

:thumbup: correct, and it takes 3 days to kick in. So you can basically get away with the 'starvation' diet for about 3 days then your body starts to say um nope not having this.
I also agree strongly with the low fat products... I found this out a few years ago, I was buying loads and wondered why I was running to the loo all the time.
And welcome Mike wink
I'd agree with the last few scientific reasonings.
I quit smoking 25 years ago, and stopped tea and coffee 18 months ago, and stopped alcohol 6 months ago. I now feel I am getting back to being like a youngster, who has not had any of those things. My energy is better and more consistent and I have lost weight. I do some basic exercises but I have an active job so I am usually lifting or exercising in some way. I would like to step up my exercising regime and see if I can get back some of the athleticism I had over 30 years ago.
I look back on those years of boozing and overindulging and think of how much time and effort I put into all that and how unrewarding it was. Admittedly there were a few times when it was the right thing to do and it was enjoyable, but now it seems so pointless. I really like feeling well and knowing that I can take on extra work and be okay with it.
The effect of doing without alcohol and caffeine has normalised my system, and things that are important such as liver functions and allowing your own energy to work uninterrupted by stimulants has really helped. In about a year I have lost nearly 2 stone.
So I think that if you can normalise your system and then get your diet and exercise right you will achieve a good health factor again.
Have kept away from this strand, there's been some good advice though. Basically it's a long term lifestyle change, excercise and use more fuel than you take in and the weight should slowly come down. Even better is that the body will tone itself up a little and the internal organs will recuperate.
One of the unfortunate pieces of advice that seem to be all over the place is cut out alcohol. Isn't a little supposed to be beneficial, red wine especially?
Is the independent ok to read?
Quote by jameybruce
Have kept away from this strand, there's been some good advice though. Basically it's a long term lifestyle change, excercise and use more fuel than you take in and the weight should slowly come down. Even better is that the body will tone itself up a little and the internal organs will recuperate.
One of the unfortunate pieces of advice that seem to be all over the place is cut out alcohol. Isn't a little supposed to be beneficial, red wine especially?
Is the independent ok to read?

Now, I'm not the type of forumite to take personal ownership of threads I start... I post 'em and lets 'em run their course! biggrin But, I just felt compelled to comment here...
Thanks jameybruce. That's good advice. Very sensible. And yes, I've read that a glass or two of wine is supposed to be okay. Fortunately I live in a dry house at mo, as my parents have given up alcohol and I am staying with them for a bit. So the alcohol cutting out is not a problem!
Thanks for your comments though. There's been loads of really good stuff. So far the will power is holding up too!! :shock:
And I'm an Independent reader too... so let's hope it passes muster hey!! wink
oo the alcohol question. back to basic biology lesson again cool
when your body is just ticking over, your liver is producing glycogen (blood sugar) and your pancrease is producing insulin to utilise that glycogen as energy. when it's in balance you don't put on any weight. (said this was only basic) when you drink alcohol, dosent really matter in what form, your liver stops producing glycogen while it sorts the aclcohol out. trouble is your pancreas is still producing insulin, which makes your blood sugar go to low, which makes you hungry. and there's not much to eat when ya out on the town apart from chip shops, kebabs, burgers or such like. so you have a burger and chips, which raises ya blood sugar too much, which rises ya insulin etc etc.
the best thing to have after a drink is a huge cheese omelette and a couple of glasses of water.
I agree, it's not about the drinking of alcohol, it's about the munchies that follows... :lickface:
Nola, I just wanted to say good on ya - I'm sure you'll manage fine!
:thumbup:
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I agree, it's not about the drinking of alcohol, it's about the munchies that follows... :lickface:

Actually the way metabolism works alcohol is on the fast track direct to fat (if not burnt off first), and certainly far faster than your average munchie. It's also a great way of raising your triglyceride levels.
Having said that, as previously mentioned red wine, in moderation, is actually beneficial whereas several pints of Stella doesn't have any health benefits whatsoever biggrin
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Nola, I just wanted to say good on ya - I'm sure you'll manage fine!
:thumbup:

wink Thanks for the support xxx
I'm realistic about my capacity for willpower though... so we'll see!!
For those like me (until recently) who swig loads of diet coke and other diet drinks, and wonder why it doesn't seem to help with weight loss when part of a diet plan, it might be worth bearing in mind that recent research indicates that artificial sweeteners may cause weight gain. Nothing can be firmly established yet, but the research is continuing. See:
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Just wondering if anyone has had any success going to a slimming club? I have made a decision to try and lose weight and am thinking of joining a slimming club.
Thing is, I've been to them in the past and not really managed to stick with it.
So, has anyone had any joy losing weight this way and if so, what's your advice for sticking to it? Or, if not, any advice in general will be helpful am sure!
Cheers all.
Nola x

Me, me, me!!!
Stick with it. It is worth it. Honestly. Just stick to the program.
So far I am!
Nola x