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Quote by meat2pleaseu
...but I'll be dammed if I'll let a little thing like crushing agony stop me from getting shagged!

do we do awards for dedication and services to swinging and sex worship kiss
No but for newt putting up with be shagged by me there fucking well should be one lol
Quote by Darkfire
There is someone I'd like to play with here, but to be honest I'm 'scared' to ask the questions, but without the questions it just aint gonna happen, but with the questions i'm gonna look silly and naive and 'nosey' for not understanding in the first place so they wont want to play with me anyway dunno
loon

Don't ask + don't get !! and you won't look silly or nosey, just interested..... smile
newt xx
Quote by new2trot
There is someone I'd like to play with here, but to be honest I'm 'scared' to ask the questions, but without the questions it just aint gonna happen, but with the questions i'm gonna look silly and naive and 'nosey' for not understanding in the first place so they wont want to play with me anyway dunno
loon

Don't ask + don't get !! and you won't look silly or nosey, just interested..... smile
newt xx
Thats right. They shouldn't think you're silly They probably know many people dont know what their (who ever it is) condition entails and probably expect questions. I would like to think as i allways mention my CD straight away that some questions would come my way, even just to say whats that which is a common response.
Quote by Midlandsman1970
...but I'll be dammed if I'll let a little thing like crushing agony stop me from getting shagged!

do we do awards for dedication and services to swinging and sex worship kiss
No but for newt putting up with be shagged by me there fucking well should be one lol
lol @ meat!
aww Mids :inlove: but no beloved one.... the award should go to YOU :twisted:
newt xx
All I want to say whether you have a disability or not you still have feelings and these are important, and should be respected :P . I was in a serious road traffic accident in Oct 2001, I died 4 times, shattered my femar, neck, back, damaged nerves etc. Was in a coma was give 2% chance of making it. :shock:
I am glad to be here with disabilities, I walk with a brace and stick, but this does make me less human or have less feelings, I have met a number of very nice people on here and they know who they are. Often I dont publise my disabilities and on bad days I do hide too.
As far as using my disability, I never would tell anyone till I had to as wouldn't want to be pitied.
interesting question....
but what are we calling a "disability"??? I have no problem, playing with someone if i feel attracted to them.....
however it did have a problem with the ad... not the sentiment, but the way it was written, because to me it looked like someone was trying to take adavntage of a situation to get there end away, so to speak (rightly or wrongly) rather than for it to be a mutual thing.....maybe i read something into it that wasn't there......maybe because he didn't say anthing about that in his ads ( the 5 on the site) and then because he got obnoxious about it....
Tania... you know i respect you a lot... on this one i think you are way off the mark this time.... or maybe you were playing devils advocate, I really don't know.......because i think at the munches i have been at i think i have seen almost ever different type of person being there....
sean xxxxxxxxxxxx
i havent got the energy to post on this topic at the moment but will come back to it later.......until then something to consider......
Is it a disability that handicaps a person or in fact society itself?
Quote by da69ve
to think there is some conspiracy on here against certain groups...

no conspiracy ....people r on here looking 4 certain things......if they find what they`re looking for its working....
would never not meet someone we`ve been chatting to on here because they`re in a wheelchair........but things might cet a bit tricky when we say.....come and meet us down the club one night..............(it`s up a steep flight of stairs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!),mind u it can be done.....a guy in a wheelchair had a great time there once......and loads of willing helpers to carry him up and down.....
met a guy with one hand once ....and boy ...could he do stuff with his wrist......... biggrin
so its really down to the practical side of things......
Quote by twos_company

to think there is some conspiracy on here against certain groups...

no conspiracy ....people r on here looking 4 certain things......if they find what they`re looking for its working....
would never not meet someone we`ve been chatting to on here because they`re in a wheelchair........but things might cet a bit tricky when we say.....come and meet us down the club one night..............(it`s up a steep flight of stairs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!),mind u it can be done.....a guy in a wheelchair had a great time there once......and loads of willing helpers to carry him up and down.....
met a guy with one hand once ....and boy ...could he do stuff with his wrist......... biggrin
so its really down to the practical side of things......
Quote by da69ve
Ah how good it is to be proven right! lol

Tania...my dear.....you do come out with some shit.....and i say that in the nicest way.
to think there is some conspiracy on here against certain groups...is complete rubbish...so because some people don't agree with you,you come out with that crap....care to explain why ?
i just wanted to add the full quote....as it just looks like i believe there is a conspiracy, in the small bit that you did quote from me. wink
If I read Tania right, and I may be wrong on this, she is saying that the Forum has some unwritten rules. This is not news; the rules are there and can’t be disputed. They are an etiquette if you like and need time to be understood, not so much by the categories of people she states, but certainly by the newbies who need time to learn what the rules are and how to navigate safely through the Forum. I don’t think for example, that there is a group of people dedicated to harassing old people, but if you are new and ask a less than well thought out question, or are unfortunate enough to make a spelling mistake, ungrammatical sentence or mention some subject, the very least you can expect is a huge amount of piss-taking. I assume what Tania is saying is, is this kind of behaviour really necessary?
I may not totally agree with the wording of Tania’s post, but if I have understood the spirit of it, then I can’t help but support it.
If the Forum is to grow and prosper, then it needs new people with new ideas who feel confident in posting. The mentor scheme is an excellent way of gently introducing people into the Forums. Four pages of piss-taking is far less effective.
On the disability issue, would I play with someone blind? , deaf?…yes, an amputee?...yes ,in a wheelchair? …yes, provided I liked them as people. Would I play with a Paraplegic, incontinent burns victim?......That would take some serious thought.
Stormwalker
Quote by firelizard
The mentor scheme is an excellent way of gently introducing people into the Forums. Four pages of piss-taking is far less effective.
On the disability issue, would I play with someone blind? , deaf?…yes, an amputee?...yes ,in a wheelchair? …yes, provided I liked them as people. Would I play with a Paraplegic, incontinent burns victim?......That would take some serious thought.

Wish i had a mentor when i started here just to say whats what instead of learning the hard way.
Also agree with the rest of the qoute.
Quote by splendid33
<snip>
I think that we all have boundaries that can't be crossed and I am sure that there are boundaries that I would cross that others wouldn't.
For me a disability in others would only cause me a problem if it prevented that person from doing what I found erotic (in terms of a sexual relationship)<snip>

worship
I've quoted only part of splendid's post as this is the part I most agree with and for me, what she's said is spot on :thumbup:
IMHO I think it depends on what you would class a disability. Would you just see someone in a wheelchair as disabled? Would you class someone as disabled if they had an IBD? Or someone like me who suffers from agonising pain before and during woman's week? The majority of people have something which prevents them from enjoying sex, whether it's a temporary setback ( like me ) or for the longer term.
Personally I think everyone has the right to enjoy sex to their own ability and preference despite any physical barriers they may face and the best of luck to those who do kiss
Quote by firelizard
If I read Tania right, and I may be wrong on this, she is saying that the Forum has some unwritten rules. This is not news; the rules are there and can’t be disputed. They are an etiquette if you like and need time to be understood, not so much by the categories of people she states, but certainly by the newbies who need time to learn what the rules are and how to navigate safely through the Forum. I don’t think for example, that there is a group of people dedicated to harassing old people, but if you are new and ask a less than well thought out question, or are unfortunate enough to make a spelling mistake, ungrammatical sentence or mention some subject, the very least you can expect is a huge amount of piss-taking. I assume what Tania is saying is, is this kind of behaviour really necessary?

If this is what she is saying then I did misinterpret her, I thought she meant that you couldn't use the forum if you were anything other than normal (whatever that is), and that there were rules about who could and couldn't use it, ie age, literacy, ablebodied, etc. In my experience the swining fraternity (for want of a better term) are more accepting of people 'as they are' than many other 'groups' seem to be.
H.x
Quote by firelizard
... I assume what Tania is saying is, is this kind of behaviour really necessary?

Rather than assuming, I for one responded to what Tania was directly implying...
That people are not welcome to use this forum unless they are without disability (along with other criteria).
I find that comment offensive.
Particularly when followed by the dragging out of the appropriate friend details to demonstrate being above the rest of the (now labelled as prejudice and judgmental) forum users.
I can't say the overall idea fusses me and I'd take each person on their own merits like I do everyone else. Mind you, I spend a good bit of time around disabeld people (Mental and physical) at work, so I suppose I don't get phased by it too easily.
Quote by PoloLady
... I assume what Tania is saying is, is this kind of behaviour really necessary?

Rather than assuming, I for one responded to what Tania was directly implying...
So you responded to an implication, rather than an assumption.
Quote by PoloLady
That people are not welcome to use this forum unless they are without disability (along with other criteria).

I didn’t read it that way, as I said I may be wrong only Tania can say how it was meant. However if you are correct and she does believe that the Forum is so prejudiced, where did the belief come from? Wouldn’t it have been better to find out how she came by such a biased interpretation and help to correct it?
Quote by PoloLady
I find that comment offensive.
Particularly when followed by the dragging out of the appropriate friend details to demonstrate being above the rest of the (now labelled as prejudice and judgmental) forum users.

If true, I find it offensive too...but as I said ,I did't read it that way. dunno
kiss
None of this is a personal attack on you Polo, I hope it doesn’t come across as one.
Stormwalker
It's the same as everything else in this life, never say never. Judge each individual on there merits, it sall down to the person and the situation as every other encounter would be.
Quote by PoloLady
... I assume what Tania is saying is, is this kind of behaviour really necessary?

Rather than assuming, I for one responded to what Tania was directly implying...
That people are not welcome to use this forum unless they are without disability (along with other criteria).
I find that comment offensive.
Particularly when followed by the dragging out of the appropriate friend details to demonstrate being above the rest of the (now labelled as prejudice and judgmental) forum users.
I don't assume what Tania was saying......i knew exactly what she was saying!!...
Quote by Tania
SH rules (the unwritten ones) state clearly that a person using these forums may not be:
illiterate
disabled
old
too young
need I go on?

da69ve... i can see parts of her point being valid here.....
for example... how many times on here have we seen a post with not the best spelling being ripped to pieces.....
same with an "am i too young/ too old to swing"post.....
and i do see and i am sure that i am not the only one that certain people take glee and seem the revel in trying to rip people to shreads because they take a dislike to them... i think i could show you an good example of that in this very thread......
where i do disagree with her was the "disability" issue.... because i don't think it has come up very often and i think it is a good conversation topic........
firelizard, i agree with the sentiment, in places. but i think most were saying that when tania said the disabled weren't welcome here, she was talking out of her . . . erm . . . . possibly limited experience of this site. ((( i hesitate to suggest she was talking out of her posterior on that one! lol )))
anyways, let's not turn this into a thread about tania, or how we treat newbies, eh?
stew_chris, there are many here that could
be desribed as disabled, according to the medical definition of the condition they suffer from. others might be more debilitated rather than disabled. i genuienely believe ((( IMO, from my experience! ))) it don't matter all that much?
it matters to them, obviously. it might matter to some other people? but it don't matter to everyone, at least as far swinging goes? it only matters inasmuch as it bothers them? don't bother 'em? no problem! i'm reluctant to be more specific.
neil x x x ;)
Quote by firelizard
None of this is a personal attack on you Polo, I hope it doesn’t come across as one.
Stormwalker

not at all chuck smile
dammit polo. just as i came back to delete, you had to post didntcha? all i can do is a "post deleted" type edit now.
neil - struggling hard with the wording on this one!!
Quote by fabio grooverider
SH rules (the unwritten ones) state clearly that a person using these forums may not be:
illiterate
disabled
old
too young
need I go on?

da69ve... i can see parts of her point being valid here.....
for example... how many times on here have we seen a post with not the best spelling being ripped to pieces.....
same with an "am i too young/ too old to swing"post.....
and i do see and i am sure that i am not the only one that certain people take glee and seem the revel in trying to rip people to shreads because they take a dislike to them... i think i could show you an good example of that in this very thread......
where i do disagree with her was the "disability" issue.... because i don't think it has come up very often and i think it is a good conversation topic........
The first one yes i have been guilty in the past at that one....but the others she is just assuming.....on what proof has she put forward on these.....absolutely none.....once again she starts something then dissappears.....there is absolutely nothing to back up what she has said!...i have highlighted this part has i believe that nothing but support is given to these people when they post.....the only time they get ripped into his when they act like idiots!
Quote by fabio grooverider
da69ve... i can see parts of her point being valid here.....
for example... how many times on here have we seen a post with not the best spelling being ripped to pieces.....

Are they ripped because of the spelling or lazy text style typing?
Are they ripped because of the spelling or because the actual meaning of the jumble is a pile of pants?
Has there not been a thread debating how important spelling is? Whilst it had mixed responces I am sure it did not show that it is a 'forum rule' that you can't make spelling errors?
Quote by fabio grooverider
same with an "am i too young/ too old to swing"post.....

and in these threads, when for example someone asks "I am 68 - am i too old to start swinging" , are they told "yes you are - now get out of here"?
I don't see it as being that way confused
I have certainly seen no evidence that any person with a disability has not been allowed to take part in this forum.
well yet another 'potentially interesting' thread goes down the drain as folks seem to be more interested in whacking other posts than sticking to the topic. rolleyes
newt xx
Quote by new2trot
well yet another 'potentially interesting' thread goes down the drain as folks seem to be more interested in whacking other posts than sticking to the topic. rolleyes
newt xx

Well for what it's worth (and keeping to topic smile ) H has had MS for 17 years and is disabled. Did it matter to me when I met her 7 years ago? Nah she has a warm, gentle nature, great body and fantastic nipples. People we have played with have been attracted by the same thing. The fact that she is disabled doesn't matter really :)
M
I've been reading this with interest and it's caused me to think carefully about the original question and this is what I've come up with.
If Stormy were to become disabled there is no way on this earth that I would leave him because I'm unable to fancy him anymore because of a disability. The reason of course is because I love him. Obviously not just for the sex, but because he is a lovely person with a great personality. So my answer to this question would have to be that if I had met someone on here that I was considering playing with as long as I liked them and they were a lovely person too the disability would'nt matter.
Obviously it would depend on the type of disability as there are some things whether we like it or not that just don't do it for us like Splendid and her skin disorders on hands thing etc etc. I also have things that would definately be a turn off for me so playing would not be an option, but in the main disability does'nt upset me enough not to play.
Also it wouldnt surprise me to learn that we have a high number of people on here that have disabilities because the internet is the most convenient way of communicating with the outside world if you are unable to get out for periods of time so it stands to reason we will meet them in our time here and I for one am glad about that.
In the words of Kiara in Lion King 2 to her father Simba " Look at them! What differences do you see? They ARE us!" when she was talking about the divide between the lions. If the world could think more that way, then it would be a better place!
Sorry, getting carried away again redface
Love
Fire xx
Interestingly, everyone seems to be talking about physical disability. How would people feel about a mental disability? The chap on Big Brother would seem to have had no problems with the ladies despite his Torrets. However I think generally people are more understanding of a physical disability, than they are of a mental one. Fear perhaps?
Stormwalker
Quote by firelizard
Interestingly, everyone seems to be talking about physical disability. How would people feel about a mental disability? The chap on Big Brother would seem to have had no problems with the ladies despite his Torrets. However I think generally people are more understanding of a physical disability, than they are of a mental one. Fear perhaps?
Stormwalker

Pete from Big Brother......seems like a really nice guy......and your right most of the ladies do like him alot......but they have got to know him.....would they have felt the same about him on the outside world under different circumstances?
Quote by firelizard
I've been reading this with interest and it's caused me to think carefully about the original question and this is what I've come up with.
If Stormy were to become disabled there is no way on this earth that I would leave him because I'm unable to fancy him anymore because of a disability. The reason of course is because I love him. Obviously not just for the sex, but because he is a lovely person with a great personality. So my answer to this question would have to be that if I had met someone on here that I was considering playing with as long as I liked them and they were a lovely person too the disability would'nt matter.
Obviously it would depend on the type of disability as there are some things whether we like it or not that just don't do it for us like Splendid and her skin disorders on hands thing etc etc. I also have things that would definately be a turn off for me so playing would not be an option, but in the main disability does'nt upset me enough not to play.
Also it wouldnt surprise me to learn that we have a high number of people on here that have disabilities because the internet is the most convenient way of communicating with the outside world if you are unable to get out for periods of time so it stands to reason we will meet them in our time here and I for one am glad about that.
In the words of Kiara in Lion King 2 to her father Simba " Look at them! What differences do you see? They ARE us!" when she was talking about the divide between the lions. If the world could think more that way, then it would be a better place!Sorry, getting carried away again redface
Love
Fire xx

:shock: WTF
Have you been drinking without me again dunno
Stormwalker kiss wink