I have just been down our local super market. Not a place I frequent that often as my Hubby does the shopping normally (Lucky me).
I was shocked what was in the freezers and stacked on shelfs. Has the art of cooking being overtaken by pre-packed foods? How are our children going to turn out mostly fed preservatives and E numbers? It a scary thought.
I watched a TV programme the other day that showed a class of British children a basket of vegetables a few children could name a couple. The same aged children in Italy when shown could name them all. What is this saying about the country we live in?
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Do we know our cabbages from our greens?
I do, only because we used to have our own huge veggie garden - hubby was a horticulturest and we were into organic veggie growing bigtime. Yet, I dont like veggies 
......specially anything green!! (its my fav colour as well) But enjoyed seeing how the veggies turned out...
My kids had their own little veggie gardens or grew in pots and hanging baskets, so they know the different between most. And grew up loving veg!
......specially anything green!! (its my fav colour as well) But enjoyed seeing how the veggies turned out...My kids had their own little veggie gardens or grew in pots and hanging baskets, so they know the different between most. And grew up loving veg!
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I`m pretty sure that she can name most of the normal fruit and veg and probably quite a lot of the unusual ones.
I think that's probably quite rare - but then I've just spent the day with a load of children whose version of fruit seems to be Tango and Chewitts for lunch
Mine can name most fruit & veg, and eat quite a few of them too!
The problem is the kids that need them most are the ones least likely to get them. It frustrates the hell out of me that the cost of raw ingredients is going up rapidly, and the cost of processed shite- sorry, ready meals is going down!
And whenever the supermarkets have a change around, has anyone else noticed they invariably give more shelf space to the packaged stuff, whilst cutting back on the fresh?!
The problem is the kids that need them most are the ones least likely to get them. It frustrates the hell out of me that the cost of raw ingredients is going up rapidly, and the cost of processed shite- sorry, ready meals is going down!
And whenever the supermarkets have a change around, has anyone else noticed they invariably give more shelf space to the packaged stuff, whilst cutting back on the fresh?!
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I have just been down our local super market. Not a place I frequent that often as my Hubby does the shopping normally (Lucky me).
I was shocked what was in the freezers and stacked on shelfs. Has the art of cooking being overtaken by pre-packed foods? How are our children going to turn out mostly fed preservatives and E numbers? It a scary thought.
I watched a TV programme the other day that showed a class of British children a basket of vegetables a few children could name a couple. The same aged children in Italy when shown could name them all. What is this saying about the country we live in?
From the kids points of view...do they have veg in a Macdonalds? :shock:
A lot of kids I would think, only know fast food and not a proper meal with veg. A lot of parents only know what a microwave is.
And that " ding " when the meal is done in 2 minutes. Quote by kentswingers777
I have just been down our local super market. Not a place I frequent that often as my Hubby does the shopping normally (Lucky me).
I was shocked what was in the freezers and stacked on shelfs. Has the art of cooking being overtaken by pre-packed foods? How are our children going to turn out mostly fed preservatives and E numbers? It a scary thought.
I watched a TV programme the other day that showed a class of British children a basket of vegetables a few children could name a couple. The same aged children in Italy when shown could name them all. What is this saying about the country we live in?
From the kids points of view...do they have veg in a Macdonalds? :shock:
A lot of kids I would think, only know fast food and not a proper meal with veg. A lot of parents only know what a microwave is.
And that " ding " when the meal is done in 2 minutes.Yes, serving.
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I have just been down our local super market. Not a place I frequent that often as my Hubby does the shopping normally (Lucky me).
I was shocked what was in the freezers and stacked on shelfs. Has the art of cooking being overtaken by pre-packed foods? How are our children going to turn out mostly fed preservatives and E numbers? It a scary thought.
I watched a TV programme the other day that showed a class of British children a basket of vegetables a few children could name a couple. The same aged children in Italy when shown could name them all. What is this saying about the country we live in?
That that particular class of children was selected by the programme to make a point?
The same could be said for lots of things - if you read this forum, you could be forgiven for believing that the majority of members have shitty spelling, grammar and punctuation skills - it doesn't mean that the country is going down the pan.
From the kids points of view...do they have veg in a Macdonalds? :shock:
A lot of kids I would think, only know fast food and not a proper meal with veg. A lot of parents only know what a microwave is.
My children know their veg, and eat them well but it is a rare thing these days. Some children that I have over for tea just look horrifed to see veg on their plates, As for a microwave that got thrown out when I realised the only thing that went in it was milk for hot chocolate!
And am proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer. Do you know you can buy frozen yorkshire puds and roast potatoes! yuck Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
From the kids points of view...do they have veg in a Macdonalds? :shock:
A lot of kids I would think, only know fast food and not a proper meal with veg. A lot of parents only know what a microwave is.
My children know their veg, and eat them well but it is a rare thing these days. Some children that I have over for tea just look horrifed to see veg on their plates, As for a microwave that got thrown out when I realised the only thing that went in it was milk for hot chocolate!
And am proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer. Do you know you can buy frozen yorkshire puds and roast potatoes! yuckThat just says that the friends of your children don't eat many vegetables - it's hardly representative
You may be proud to not have prepacked meals in your freezer - many people have neither the time nor the inclination to cook. So what? Doesn't make them bad people.
That just says that the friends of your children don't eat many vegetables - it's hardly representative
Where did I say it is a representative?
What I will say is that I have have been involved with a primary school for 10 years now and a quarter of the children there come to school without breakfast. So i doubt very much if vegetables are part of their diet. We set up a breakfast club to try and tackle these issues. But the children we were aiming at dont come to that either.
You may be proud to not have prepacked meals in your freezer - many people have neither the time nor the inclination to cook. So what? Doesn't make them bad people.
Where did I say people that do are bad?
But what I would say is that I dont feed my children with preservative and E Numbers. We as parents are responsible for our own children, what others do is there choice.
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
And am proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer. Do you know you can buy frozen yorkshire puds and roast potatoes! yuck
Id just like to say how lucky you are not to have prepacked meals in your freezer.
Some parents cant afford anything else
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And am proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer. Do you know you can buy frozen yorkshire puds and roast potatoes! yuck
Id just like to say how lucky you are not to have prepacked meals in your freezer.
Some parents cant afford anything else
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
Proper meal 45 mins at least...prepacked 2 mins. For most it is a simple case of either dont have the time, or cant be bothered to cook. Agreed it does not make anyone a bad person though. :shock:
Sex God
i dont go in for ready meals much have used them - mainly if im home alone son staying elsewhere and i dont fancy cooking for myself as for yorky puds though never been able to make them yes i buy the ready made ones i dont think badly about this i have more important things to be worrrying about
as for veg son wont eat a lot of veg in the basic form it makes him sick - however i make things with *hidden goodness* home made soup with 10 different types of veg in goes down a treat as does home made spag bol and many other meals
It doesnt have to be meat and 3 veg to be full of goodness nor does it have to go ping to be quick and easy!
as for veg son wont eat a lot of veg in the basic form it makes him sick - however i make things with *hidden goodness* home made soup with 10 different types of veg in goes down a treat as does home made spag bol and many other meals
It doesnt have to be meat and 3 veg to be full of goodness nor does it have to go ping to be quick and easy!
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
And am proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer. Do you know you can buy frozen yorkshire puds and roast potatoes! yuck
Id just like to say how lucky you are not to have prepacked meals in your freezer.
Some parents cant afford anything else
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
a chicken lasts 5 of you? my son can eat a whole one to himself down to the bones
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
Quote by helnheaven
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
It is easy....just compare the cost of prepacked meals against good old shephards pie for example. A few carrotts, some spuds, peas, and some mince. I reckon total cost about 7 quid. Now what can you get for 7 quid with prepacked meals that can feed 5 people? Would be interested to know.
Quote by kentswingers777
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
It is easy....just compare the cost of prepacked meals against good old shephards pie for example. A few carrotts, some spuds, peas, and some mince. I reckon total cost about 7 quid. Now what can you get for 7 quid with prepacked meals that can feed 5 people? Would be interested to know.
Fact- Asda now sell 6, yes SIX frozen ready meals for.....wait for it......£4. And as the cost of fresh food soars- I find it lamentable.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
It is easy....just compare the cost of prepacked meals against good old shephards pie for example. A few carrotts, some spuds, peas, and some mince. I reckon total cost about 7 quid. Now what can you get for 7 quid with prepacked meals that can feed 5 people? Would be interested to know.
Its nice to know all you have to do is go out get the ingredients and pay for them without taking into consideration wether or not you can actually afford the fuel it takes to cook em.
Im so happy I dont live in the self righteous ivory tower that some people live in!
Quote by helnheaven
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you
If you dont like Curry you can casserole, roast it, coq-au-vin are just as nice ..if you dont like chicken braising steak is just as cheap..7 chicken thight costs
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you
If you dont like Curry you can casserole, roast it, coq-au-vin are just as nice ..if you dont like chicken braising steak is just as cheap..7 chicken thight costs
Maybe a recipe thread is called for too
Quote by helnheaven
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
It is easy....just compare the cost of prepacked meals against good old shephards pie for example. A few carrotts, some spuds, peas, and some mince. I reckon total cost about 7 quid. Now what can you get for 7 quid with prepacked meals that can feed 5 people? Would be interested to know.
Its nice to know all you have to do is go out get the ingredients and pay for them without taking into consideration wether or not you can actually afford the fuel it takes to cook em.
Im so happy I dont live in the self righteous ivory tower that some people live in!
I am neither self righteous or live in an ivory tower. Lets just say you have your views and I have mine and leave it there.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Fact..... it is cheaper to cook " proper " meals, than buying prepacked ones. The major difference in the time it takes to cook it. I can buy chicken and make a curry with it for 5 people for about 5 quid, buy the same in a box for 5, and you wont get change out of a tenner at least.
All well n good if you like curry or even chicken. Id like to know where you get your 'facts'
Ask the the Child Poverty Action Group about facts, Im sure they would be very happy to supply you.
It is easy....just compare the cost of prepacked meals against good old shephards pie for example. A few carrotts, some spuds, peas, and some mince. I reckon total cost about 7 quid. Now what can you get for 7 quid with prepacked meals that can feed 5 people? Would be interested to know.
Its nice to know all you have to do is go out get the ingredients and pay for them without taking into consideration wether or not you can actually afford the fuel it takes to cook em.
Im so happy I dont live in the self righteous ivory tower that some people live in!
I am neither self righteous or live in an ivory tower. Lets just say you have your views and I have mine and leave it there.
Did I mention your name???? No!
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
That just says that the friends of your children don't eat many vegetables - it's hardly representative
Where did I say it is a representative?
What I will say is that I have have been involved with a primary school for 10 years now and a quarter of the children there come to school without breakfast. So i doubt very much if vegetables are part of their diet. We set up a breakfast club to try and tackle these issues. But the children we were aiming at dont come to that either.
You didn't say that it was representative. However, your original post suggests that you think that the knowledge of one primary school class is representative and you gave the example of the friends of your children being horrified at seeing vegetables, as further support for your comments. The primary school you are involved with, is obviously in need of some education/support if it's a common thing where you live. Don't assume that it 'says' anything about the country we live in.
Quote by Theladyisaminx
]You may be proud to not have prepacked meals in your freezer - many people have neither the time nor the inclination to cook. So what? Doesn't make them bad people.
Where did I say people that do are bad?
But what I would say is that I dont feed my children with preservative and E Numbers. We as parents are responsible for our own children, what others do is there choice.
You didn't, but you did say that you were 'proud to say never have prepacked meals in my freezer' as if that's an achievement and anything less is to be scorned. Suits you, it doesn't suit others - as you say, it's their choice - so don't knock the country for it.
Oh, and I'm a qualified chef and a good cook - but the frozen roast potatoes are a useful thing to have in the freezer.
Its nice to know all you have to do is go out get the ingredients and pay for them without taking into consideration wether or not you can actually afford the fuel it takes to cook em.
Im so happy I dont live in the self righteous ivory tower that some people live in!
I live in one of the most deprived areas in London no Ivory towers here!
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I live in one of the most deprived areas in London no Ivory towers here!
And Im very happy for you
Sex God
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Blimey! Bit of an emotive issue this!
Surely it's each to their own eh?
It is indeed.