Quote by fruity1976
And to be honest why the fuck are half of them locked???
Because they are deemed too off topic or otherwise a pointless, boring thread that contributes nothing to the site.
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Quote by frogster
Frogster you had your public response on the other thread.
You obviously read it as you pick up some of the points given in it.
The thread won't be getting reinstated - it's gone.
Jas
Yes, I heard your Jackboots........
Tha's the kind of remark which is personally offensive to many people and evokes Goodwin's Adage. Another mention of anything remotely concerned with jackboots WILL make you deactive and this thread locked. I am serious!
Sex God
<<< goes down on his knees . . . Dear Lord, please save me from making comments in contentious threads . . . . amen! >>>
ummmmmm . . .yes agree with all of you, so there! that's the power of prayer for yer . . . or maybe not . . .
i for one would be pretty sad to see the cafe change too much, and i don't really think there's a need for more forums ((( fora???
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the beauty of the cafe, is that amid all the complete bollox and uttershite, there's often some pretty deep stuff you can just happen to stumble over without knowing you were looking for it till you actually stumbled over it. it's always been somewhere that generally speaking, anyone, no matter who they are, can find something they can contribute to, whether that be bollox or deep. some threads are pretty much designed that anyone can contribute, even if only with a quick line. e.g. Ping-Pong. waaaayyyyyy off topic, but been played twice that i remember, and a lot of fun
but . . . . you knew there was a but coming right? i'm nothing if not even handed! ;)
the forum is moving too fast these days, and is a bit swamped with completely pointless, redundant threads, which makes it all the harder to find the stuff i think the cafe was designed to do, which is learn a bit about swinging, and swingers as people. and learning about swingers as people needs all kinds of threads to show your personality. if those threads are the sole domain of a mere handful of users, getting what they want out of the cafe, well it kind of makes it hard for other users to get what they want out of it too.
if you're gonna put up a thread, maybe you need to ask yourself, how many people are gonna be even remotely interested and have an opportunity to post themselves, if it's just a 2 or 3 way convo with no substance worth reading for the other members of the site. you can ignore so many threads true, but how do you know if you want to ignore it till you read it. waaaay too many click throughs to find something at the mo.
when you post, at least try and post for the entire membership, and not just aim it at one or two people by way of a blatant tart! maybe that's why a good few users are getting a bit pissed off, cos having to click through 2 dozen threads to find anything of any interest whatsoever, designed to be inclusive, interesting, funny, thought-provoking etc etc etc is asking a bit much of other members just so you can post?
we all post look at me stuff, but there's 2 ways to do it - a blatant loook at me so people can only say ok we've seen you or a look at me that let's others get their own look at me in.
neil x x x ;)
ummmmmm . . .yes agree with all of you, so there! that's the power of prayer for yer . . . or maybe not . . .
i for one would be pretty sad to see the cafe change too much, and i don't really think there's a need for more forums ((( fora???
)))the beauty of the cafe, is that amid all the complete bollox and uttershite, there's often some pretty deep stuff you can just happen to stumble over without knowing you were looking for it till you actually stumbled over it. it's always been somewhere that generally speaking, anyone, no matter who they are, can find something they can contribute to, whether that be bollox or deep. some threads are pretty much designed that anyone can contribute, even if only with a quick line. e.g. Ping-Pong. waaaayyyyyy off topic, but been played twice that i remember, and a lot of fun
but . . . . you knew there was a but coming right? i'm nothing if not even handed! ;)
the forum is moving too fast these days, and is a bit swamped with completely pointless, redundant threads, which makes it all the harder to find the stuff i think the cafe was designed to do, which is learn a bit about swinging, and swingers as people. and learning about swingers as people needs all kinds of threads to show your personality. if those threads are the sole domain of a mere handful of users, getting what they want out of the cafe, well it kind of makes it hard for other users to get what they want out of it too.
if you're gonna put up a thread, maybe you need to ask yourself, how many people are gonna be even remotely interested and have an opportunity to post themselves, if it's just a 2 or 3 way convo with no substance worth reading for the other members of the site. you can ignore so many threads true, but how do you know if you want to ignore it till you read it. waaaay too many click throughs to find something at the mo.
when you post, at least try and post for the entire membership, and not just aim it at one or two people by way of a blatant tart! maybe that's why a good few users are getting a bit pissed off, cos having to click through 2 dozen threads to find anything of any interest whatsoever, designed to be inclusive, interesting, funny, thought-provoking etc etc etc is asking a bit much of other members just so you can post?
we all post look at me stuff, but there's 2 ways to do it - a blatant loook at me so people can only say ok we've seen you or a look at me that let's others get their own look at me in.
neil x x x ;)
Quote by Lucifer
The chat room is not a general place to chat .. it's an extension of Lets Meet Up! We are not looking for anyone at the moment we don't have an ad. I used to go in the chat room occasionally and it's less chat and more about meeting up .. ie whats your ad no? can I pm you? Calista
/Hijack mode on
Sorry Calista, but you've really got the wrong impression of what the room's all about.
I don't doubt that every time you've been in there you've been inundated with "whats your ad no? can I pm you?". It happens to every person who comes in with a nickname that even remotely suggests being female. Hell I get it sometimes - maybe my nick means "Lucy's up fer it" ???
The truth is that there's a huge community of regulars that use the chatroom to chat about all sorts of shite, flirt, joke, tease and yup, talk about sex and swinging. I even know quite a few people that are regulars in the chatroom that don't swing at all but still enjoy being part of the community.
I've had meets with people where we've first made contact in the room, yes it does happen, but for me and I suspect most of the regulars, that's an added bonus, not the reason for being there.
The people that use it as an extension of lets meet up tend to get bored quite quick, complain about the cliqueyness of the place and flounce out.
/hijack mode
The people who moderate the chatroom are very keen to keep the chat on topic ... and whilst i am not saying that's wrong .. I don't like the way people are saying swinging only banter ... complaints about the level of chattiness in the forum and saying that it's used as a chatroom ... if if you went into the chatroom to have this chattiness you'd be asked to keep on topic ... so basically if you want inane banter or chattiness then tough you can't chat here.
I don't doubt for one minute that that room is used for general chat .. it's just harder to get known in the chatroom and join in personal banter. And you can't "check out" posters like you can here.
Don't get me wrong I'm not accusing anyone specifically of cliqueyness but it does seem more apparent in there unless you're wanting to meet up or pm people.
Calista (currently suffering from a migraine so if this is garbled sorry)
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4) The Ooo-errr Mrs or meaningless 'commiserations' offered to someone when they've pricked their finger on a needle drives me fucking crazy. Total waste of space and other peole's time and should be locked - immediate.
5) The look at me threads/posts are more pernicious but are also a waste of space and should be treated similarly.
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I agree Tune, for 98 per cent of the "Oooh look at me" posts and threads. But it does depend how they are written. Many or most can be said to be pointless drivel, but once in a while something comes along that's cleverly written and extremely funny - e.g. the story of little gem taking her bike on the bus made me almost fall off the chair with laughter. I would not have wanted to miss that because of some diktat.So it's not quite a straightforward matter.
Mike.
Well if it causes that many problems then just scrap it! I agree with that sentiment and think that post count is totally irrelevant and personally dont know why anybody would wanna write it into any scripts as all it does is encourage useless posting sometimes and also it seems eletist bullshit which doesnt always effect everyone but it does still happen!
Can also see the Mods point too and also the point about the 3some thread which was actually about post counts is kinda in my eyes a bit pointless!
Its trying to find that fine like between staying a bit structured for the sake of useful information but still able to have some fun!
Ive used the chat room once and its just way too fast for me tbh I tend to pop on and off sometimes i have to leave quickly and its hard to just jump in on any conversation in any place.
I just wish this place would get back to a bit of normality whatever that is I do not know as I have only been here a couple of months and things have always been as mental as they are now as far as I can remember I dunno how much different it was before!
Anyhoo Im starting to not make sense to myself and Im just gonna end up going round in circles!
Just another of my many ignored posts probably feel free to delete!!??
Can also see the Mods point too and also the point about the 3some thread which was actually about post counts is kinda in my eyes a bit pointless!
Its trying to find that fine like between staying a bit structured for the sake of useful information but still able to have some fun!
Ive used the chat room once and its just way too fast for me tbh I tend to pop on and off sometimes i have to leave quickly and its hard to just jump in on any conversation in any place.
I just wish this place would get back to a bit of normality whatever that is I do not know as I have only been here a couple of months and things have always been as mental as they are now as far as I can remember I dunno how much different it was before!
Anyhoo Im starting to not make sense to myself and Im just gonna end up going round in circles!
Just another of my many ignored posts probably feel free to delete!!??
:P And to follow on from MikeNorth just said, another great post was misschief feeding her cat a pill 
It would be a pity if people were too scared to start threads like that now.
For now, I wont be starting any threads. I'm far too self-conscious at the mo
but also it too great a mood for a bringing down, maybe once the dust settles though 
It would be a pity if people were too scared to start threads like that now.
For now, I wont be starting any threads. I'm far too self-conscious at the mo
but also it too great a mood for a bringing down, maybe once the dust settles though Quote by zootle
And by the way - it isn't a league table. It is simply a count of everytime you have hit the submit button on a new post! Nothing more, nothing less!
A post count. This is what the mods are complaining about, posters who just post to increase their count. A table showing how many posts you've made just shows them their targets. It serves no purpose, better to remove it and all that relates directly to it.
I agree, Zootle. It's not long ago I remember seeing someone say in a post on here to someone else "Hey, you've only got eight posts to go to your 300 (or whatever hundred it was), so GET POSTING!". WTF, I thought!
Mike.
Quote by MikeNorth
And by the way - it isn't a league table. It is simply a count of everytime you have hit the submit button on a new post! Nothing more, nothing less!
A post count. This is what the mods are complaining about, posters who just post to increase their count. A table showing how many posts you've made just shows them their targets. It serves no purpose, better to remove it and all that relates directly to it.
I agree, Zootle. It's not long ago I remember seeing someone say in a post on here to someone else "Hey, you've only got eight posts to go to your 300 (or whatever hundred it was), so GET POSTING!". WTF, I thought!
Mike.
Well if people keep posting things like "my thousandth thred" or "my 666th thread" it does get out of hand but then people will go and respond and that makes anybody who replies I think just as guilty! This however did go on for quite a while and I dont remember seeing any complaints until now!!
I even admit to being guilty of this a couplle of times and sure many people in some way have participated!!!! Which I think should be taken into consideration!
Is this the real reason for all this upset or is there something more serious underlying??
The clock and word association threads were deleted as they were deemed boring, not contributing to the site as a whole, and existed purely for posters to increase their post count.
Their deletions prompted this thread which expanded the complaints into ones regarding the general quality of post found here.
Some people post inane garbage just to increase their post count. By removing it they may be discouraged..
I hope the post count stays gone.
Their deletions prompted this thread which expanded the complaints into ones regarding the general quality of post found here.
Some people post inane garbage just to increase their post count. By removing it they may be discouraged..
I hope the post count stays gone.
I didnt see the start of this thread, but feel I need to add my own point of view. Although I have been guilty of posting a 'yeah so many post threads', my post count is not the reason I post on here. Its not a race to see who can get the most posts. In the past couple of days I have posted on the word association thread. Before I totally ignored it and the ssh clock threads. I thought it was abit of a time killer when it was qiuet on the forum, and by no means did I do it to increase my post count.
I would agree that there are some inane drivel threads on here, that have totally no relevance to the cafe or the people that post on here, but they aren't harming anyone and within a few hours they just drop off the bottom of the first page, usually never to be seen again.
The cafe to me has always been diverse with its topics and that is what makes it an addictive place to be. I must admit the have you missed me threads drive me mad and the I'm back threads. If there has been a serious reason to someone disappering for a while then fair enough, but people who have been on holiday or going to the shops is just mad.
Two threads recently that I felt compeled to respond to where:
1. Warwick and his superstar son.
2. Reese and Vix and their xmas party.
To me this is what I like to see and comment about, but on the other hand the cafe shouldnt lose its fun off handed wit. Life is to short to be serious all the time so why shouldnt we have some inane drival on here. If you dont like it dont post on it simple as that. We all have different reasons for coming to the cafe, for some its escapisum for others a way of life.
Lets not get to serious ay.
I would agree that there are some inane drivel threads on here, that have totally no relevance to the cafe or the people that post on here, but they aren't harming anyone and within a few hours they just drop off the bottom of the first page, usually never to be seen again.
The cafe to me has always been diverse with its topics and that is what makes it an addictive place to be. I must admit the have you missed me threads drive me mad and the I'm back threads. If there has been a serious reason to someone disappering for a while then fair enough, but people who have been on holiday or going to the shops is just mad.
Two threads recently that I felt compeled to respond to where:
1. Warwick and his superstar son.
2. Reese and Vix and their xmas party.
To me this is what I like to see and comment about, but on the other hand the cafe shouldnt lose its fun off handed wit. Life is to short to be serious all the time so why shouldnt we have some inane drival on here. If you dont like it dont post on it simple as that. We all have different reasons for coming to the cafe, for some its escapisum for others a way of life.
Lets not get to serious ay.
Sex God
Mr and mrs davej have dipped in and out of swinging as the moods take them. This site was the ideal place to come, to extend a circle of freinds that are like minded. We use other sections of the site to further enhance our needs. Do we want to see the cafe focus more on swinging, hell no. We very much enjoy what we do in our lives when we do it, but the thought of coming in here and finding every thread was " on topic" would fill us with dread, how does narrowing what can and can't, what should or shouldn't be posted enhance the place. There needs to be guidelines, hence the AUP but beyond that, moves that funnel the topics down one particular path (and that could be any path) would surely make for a more boring place.
Some of the threads that have been enjoyable to a large number of posters have had nothing to do with swinging and have either been based around the more humorous banter and gentle piss taking, or more serious issues outside of swinging.
Like a number of posters on this thread I stayed out of the two threads that have been mentioned, because they were in my opinion as dull as dishwater, however I didn't let it bother me, I simply moved on and searched out threads that I liked more and yes at times I have found it difficult to move on and find something that suits my taste, because a lot of the threads don't, but I sure as hell ain't blaming others for the fact that my own interests don't happen to coincide with the current flavour of threads at a given time.
Like most I get pissed off from time to time, but I still enjoy the cafe, I enjoy some threads and posts, I dislike some threads and posts, I also realise that the cafe isn't there to cater for my preferences as an individual and that if I want to get something out of it, I need to contribute, if that contribution happens to be banter and bollox and not swinging related, how is that a bad thing.
Some of the threads that have been enjoyable to a large number of posters have had nothing to do with swinging and have either been based around the more humorous banter and gentle piss taking, or more serious issues outside of swinging.
Like a number of posters on this thread I stayed out of the two threads that have been mentioned, because they were in my opinion as dull as dishwater, however I didn't let it bother me, I simply moved on and searched out threads that I liked more and yes at times I have found it difficult to move on and find something that suits my taste, because a lot of the threads don't, but I sure as hell ain't blaming others for the fact that my own interests don't happen to coincide with the current flavour of threads at a given time.
Like most I get pissed off from time to time, but I still enjoy the cafe, I enjoy some threads and posts, I dislike some threads and posts, I also realise that the cafe isn't there to cater for my preferences as an individual and that if I want to get something out of it, I need to contribute, if that contribution happens to be banter and bollox and not swinging related, how is that a bad thing.
Hey I hope you dont think I was getting at you with the threesome thread I just used that as an example cause it was way up there somewhere and I noticed it had been mentioned already!
What can I say threads gone mad?? We've all started or participated in some at some point!
Still MODS I think it would be fair if you told us your point of view on it as it seems that people are all scared to start a thread in here!
There seems to be some sort of erruption in here every other months!! Hormones perhaps?? :P
What can I say threads gone mad?? We've all started or participated in some at some point!
Still MODS I think it would be fair if you told us your point of view on it as it seems that people are all scared to start a thread in here!
There seems to be some sort of erruption in here every other months!! Hormones perhaps??
:P 
Sex God
Quote by fruity1976
Still MODS I think it would be fair if you told us your point of view on it as it seems that people are all scared to start a thread in here!
My personal point of view, which is my PERSONAL point of view, not one necessarily shared by the other mods, is that I'm sick and tired of the petty bickering about next to nothing
. People can start whatever threads they want provided they are within the AUP. Threads may get deleted or locked if they go wrong or they run their course, or whatever.... I fail to see what the big deal is... can someone enlighten me as to why this is still such a big deal? Sex God
i don't beliiieeeeeeeve it!
yards away, just mere yards away i say, from 3000 feckin' posts, and now it's gone! :cry: :cry: :cry: you shoulda seen what i had written up for it. ace it was. about 3 pages long about what does SH mean to me and a bit of an apology for the odd complete feckin' rant, and a kinda lets all be mates and have a group hug thing and now i might as well bloody delete it! :mad:
can you tell if i'm kidding? you can't can you? you don't know if i have a 3000th post post just sat here in My Documents or not eh?
sorry i'll take me tongue outta me cheek then . . . ;) i haven't really. couldn't be bothered. been there done that! :lol2:
anyways, where was i before me post count disappeared?
oh yeah . . . dave, mike etc
the very very last thing i'd wanna see is only on topic posts. WTF would we have to talk about then if not unicorns and double glazing and monty python? :dunno: anyways i'm off to try and find a thread to hijack . . . .
neil x x x ;)
Quote by bluexxx
Still MODS I think it would be fair if you told us your point of view on it as it seems that people are all scared to start a thread in here!
My personal point of view, which is my PERSONAL point of view, not one necessarily shared by the other mods, is that I'm sick and tired of the petty bickering about next to nothing
. People can start whatever threads they want provided they are within the AUP. Threads may get deleted or locked if they go wrong or they run their course, or whatever.... I fail to see what the big deal is... can someone enlighten me as to why this is still such a big deal?I would have to agree with with blue.
Enough already.
All this fuss is just stoopid!! i agree with Blue as well, whats the point of it all??
Playing devil's advocate though, i do prefer it with the post count there!!! it kind of reminds me that i need to go out and get a life, lol! What with the Post Bar (you know, the Godlike thing) and the post count going, whats next?? the avatars?? (thats not a dig by the way!)
Playing devil's advocate though, i do prefer it with the post count there!!! it kind of reminds me that i need to go out and get a life, lol! What with the Post Bar (you know, the Godlike thing) and the post count going, whats next?? the avatars?? (thats not a dig by the way!)
Sex God
Quote by Fred
Neil m8
2835 posts to you
LOL
Fred (aka Medic 1)
ah well fred, what's 165 posts between friends! i did have a couple more but some disappeared last night! :lol2: ;)
anyways if that's this weeks heated debate all done and dusted, i'm looking forward to 6 days of complete bollox before the next one. i'm gonna put up a complete feckin' rant about just WTF is the Queen on about about and who does she think she is this time next saturday. you have been warned! ;)
neil x x x ;)
Quote by dazandlou
All this fuss is just stoopid!! i agree with Blue as well, whats the point of it all??
Playing devil's advocate though, i do prefer it with the post count there!!! it kind of reminds me that i need to go out and get a life, lol! What with the Post Bar (you know, the Godlike thing) and the post count going, whats next?? the avatars?? (thats not a dig by the way!)
I get what you mean about having the post count - does remind me i spend far to much time on here!!
But i can sort of se the reasons for getting rid, so it's a case of getting on with it and trying to get some of the banter back
Wow, havent got time to read the thread right now but what a fantastic idea to remove post counts. I remember once reading the forum completely different once when I deliberately moved the page to the left to remove the names of who was posting. It was amazing to read messages without any prejudgement but not half as much fun! Hope this isnt just a trial.
foxys xxx
foxys xxx
Okay
similar to foxy, have read the end of this post (Had read the start but obviously hadn't got up to the end) so apologies if this has been said before
I have watched with interest since joining how many contributors post counts have risen and risen in thanks to clock / word association type posts or one liner replies.
At first when we came onto the site, we, In our obvious naievety, believed that the more posts you had, the more experience you had. Obviously that was put right early on!
Personally, and I stress PERSONALLY, we believe that too much emphasis is placed on post counts. We have added to posts when appropriate to us. Sometimes those have been one liners sometimes more but quite early on we realised that the post count isn't as important as the striking up of friendships via the PM system. PM's obviously dont count on the tally but they count to us as we build friendships with other contributors.
The post count only tells you have much time you have spent on site which, as always, is way too much........
xx
similar to foxy, have read the end of this post (Had read the start but obviously hadn't got up to the end) so apologies if this has been said before
I have watched with interest since joining how many contributors post counts have risen and risen in thanks to clock / word association type posts or one liner replies.
At first when we came onto the site, we, In our obvious naievety, believed that the more posts you had, the more experience you had. Obviously that was put right early on!
Personally, and I stress PERSONALLY, we believe that too much emphasis is placed on post counts. We have added to posts when appropriate to us. Sometimes those have been one liners sometimes more but quite early on we realised that the post count isn't as important as the striking up of friendships via the PM system. PM's obviously dont count on the tally but they count to us as we build friendships with other contributors.
The post count only tells you have much time you have spent on site which, as always, is way too much........
xx
Ive skipped thrrough this thrad as i really can be bothered right now to read it through properly.
So post count has gone,no big deal it stopped mattering a long time ago.
The clock and other thread has gone,oh well knew they would one day.
The cafe is full of a lot of crap with a few good threads,so?I havent got the time to read through every thread on here and just look out for the good ones,be they about swinging or not.
Me and Steve havent been about as much lately because theres not much thats worth being on here for at the doesnt mean were leaving,it just means we cant be bothered with all the crap,be it crap posts,or petty arguments i just dont see the point.
Ive said it before and ill say it again,im on here for the friends ive made,if a one liner thread gets deleted,no big deal.
So post count has gone,no big deal it stopped mattering a long time ago.
The clock and other thread has gone,oh well knew they would one day.
The cafe is full of a lot of crap with a few good threads,so?I havent got the time to read through every thread on here and just look out for the good ones,be they about swinging or not.
Me and Steve havent been about as much lately because theres not much thats worth being on here for at the doesnt mean were leaving,it just means we cant be bothered with all the crap,be it crap posts,or petty arguments i just dont see the point.
Ive said it before and ill say it again,im on here for the friends ive made,if a one liner thread gets deleted,no big deal.
Sex God
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Okay
similar to foxy, have read the end of this post (Had read the start but obviously hadn't got up to the end) so apologies if this has been said before
I have watched with interest since joining how many contributors post counts have risen and risen in thanks to clock / word association type posts or one liner replies.
At first when we came onto the site, we, In our obvious naievety, believed that the more posts you had, the more experience you had. Obviously that was put right early on!
Personally, and I stress PERSONALLY, we believe that too much emphasis is placed on post counts. We have added to posts when appropriate to us. Sometimes those have been one liners sometimes more but quite early on we realised that the post count isn't as important as the striking up of friendships via the PM system. PM's obviously dont count on the tally but they count to us as we build friendships with other contributors.
The post count only tells you have much time you have spent on site which, as always, is way too much........
xx
<<< ponders on bumping the thread for a bit . . . . . . why not! ;) >>>
yep, i think all of us, when we join the site, look at post counts, and see that as an indication of experience, if only as far as life on SH goes. you tend to expect that continues into swinging / off-site experience too. you also tend to see the post count as a measure of where someone stands in the SH community, and probably value their input / advice above others because of it.
you also, IMHO and personal experience, see your own post count as some kind of measure of how much you yourself have slotted into the community. i know full well my first 100 / 200 / 500 posts etc were a milestone for me cos i felt i only achiived those post counts with encouragement from existing users, which was a source of satisfaction for me. but then i learned what really mattered was the response from other users i respected, and it's not from posting as such i learnt things, but from what they had to say to me.
the fact is, as i've since learned, that they mean nothing. join dates / post counts / munches / parties are pretty meaningless to anyone but yourself. they're deeply personal experiences, which you may or may not want to share, but in themselves they mean nothing, certainly not to anyone else, except that significance you yourself give them.
i'm happy to see post counts go, cos i'd rather be judged on what i say now rather than what i've said in the past, which, TBH, was mainly complete bollox and uttershite, and had bugger all to do with my life as a swinger or otherwise.
neil x x x ;)
In my opinion the Cafe has gone right up its own arse,it has been going downhill for a while and seems to have sunk to new depths lately.
It does amaze me that certain threads that have been going for ages can be deleted but other threads which cause problems are allowed to 't get me wrong i couldnt really give a shite about the clock thread or the other one and havent contributed to either of these,its the fact that these can be deleted so easily when others are allowed to continue.
This is my personal opinion and im sure that most people wont agree but at the moment i couldnt really care about it coz theres a lot more important things out there than the cafe.
It does amaze me that certain threads that have been going for ages can be deleted but other threads which cause problems are allowed to 't get me wrong i couldnt really give a shite about the clock thread or the other one and havent contributed to either of these,its the fact that these can be deleted so easily when others are allowed to continue.
This is my personal opinion and im sure that most people wont agree but at the moment i couldnt really care about it coz theres a lot more important things out there than the cafe.
Hmm, going to disagree with you Steve, I think we need a new attitude on here of working 'With' our moderators, not against them. We may not like every decision, but hell they just trying to steer a mad hat of threads away from the extremes.
Whatever they do people go for them, so lets work on positives, if it crap as not enough swinging threads, start some. If not enough debate, start it, etc... In the end 'we' make up the cafe, if it is 'crap' we only have ourselves to blame.
So come on peeps, lets give the mods a break and start working with them cause we would be lost without them.
Whatever they do people go for them, so lets work on positives, if it crap as not enough swinging threads, start some. If not enough debate, start it, etc... In the end 'we' make up the cafe, if it is 'crap' we only have ourselves to blame.
So come on peeps, lets give the mods a break and start working with them cause we would be lost without them.
Sex God
Far too much detail in this thread for me to address everything .
Truth is we've said it before and will repeat it . This site is successful , it changes in a fluid way , but always manages to retain its integrity and that -we believe- is the secret of its success . Pure luck brought together the people with the resources , self restraint and intelligence to host a truly open forum . We much admire all involved , and have noticed that no matter how the mood changes from time to time , the hard core of moderators -the web-meister , and a select few of dedicated members , always bring the site back to a place that is interesting , pleasant and popular .
Making it too over specific would be a sad end to what makes it wonderful . We may not take this site as seriously as some do , but we can say that having been members of many many attempts at such sites - this is the ONLY one that brings us back .
If you want very specific swinging requests and details then thats why the ad's section exists .
Swinging Heaven constantly surprises everyone . It has more than its fair share of press attention , and were convinced theres a reason for that . The Cafe demonstrates to non-swingers , swingers and would be swingers alike that our perverse little corner of morality is in fact peopled by real thinking , laughing human beings with thoughts ideas children jobs and problems just like them . We have been friends with many swingers for many years , and have to admit that we were beginning to become jaded by the 'meatrack' mentality which seemed permanently attached to swinging and the internet . It was SH that restored our faith that there were thousands of balanced and interesting proper people involved it it , and we believe that is what the Cafe gives Swingers as a " resource" ( whatever that means) .
Long live the Cafe in its present form , and long live the people that make it that way !
Thanks Guys xxx
Truth is we've said it before and will repeat it . This site is successful , it changes in a fluid way , but always manages to retain its integrity and that -we believe- is the secret of its success . Pure luck brought together the people with the resources , self restraint and intelligence to host a truly open forum . We much admire all involved , and have noticed that no matter how the mood changes from time to time , the hard core of moderators -the web-meister , and a select few of dedicated members , always bring the site back to a place that is interesting , pleasant and popular .
Making it too over specific would be a sad end to what makes it wonderful . We may not take this site as seriously as some do , but we can say that having been members of many many attempts at such sites - this is the ONLY one that brings us back .
If you want very specific swinging requests and details then thats why the ad's section exists .
Swinging Heaven constantly surprises everyone . It has more than its fair share of press attention , and were convinced theres a reason for that . The Cafe demonstrates to non-swingers , swingers and would be swingers alike that our perverse little corner of morality is in fact peopled by real thinking , laughing human beings with thoughts ideas children jobs and problems just like them . We have been friends with many swingers for many years , and have to admit that we were beginning to become jaded by the 'meatrack' mentality which seemed permanently attached to swinging and the internet . It was SH that restored our faith that there were thousands of balanced and interesting proper people involved it it , and we believe that is what the Cafe gives Swingers as a " resource" ( whatever that means) .
Long live the Cafe in its present form , and long live the people that make it that way !
Thanks Guys xxx
