Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in a higher being(god)?

24 Nov 2009

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
why the new testament?why not the old testament?the qur'an ,rigveda,book of the dead,the zoroastrian avesta or any one of any number of religious texts...many offering different versions of the "one" God

Or, indeed- the lyrics of the Beautiful South:
:karaoke:
There's only one god, there should be two or three...
:karaoke:

24 Nov 2009

Quote by Witchy
why the new testament?why not the old testament?the qur'an ,rigveda,book of the dead,the zoroastrian avesta or any one of any number of religious texts...many offering different versions of the "one" God

Or, indeed- the lyrics of the Beautiful South:
:karaoke:
There's only one god, there should be two or three...
:karaoke:
or the levellers!
theres only one way of life, and thats your own, your own your own!!!

24 Nov 2009

Quote by Kaznkev
If i say anything about the opium of the masses the mods will probably remove it!

That would be, Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even though I know who said that I still agree.

Quote by Kaznkev
lets take all ou clothes off n fuck!

Anytime you like! xx

24 Nov 2009

I became an atheist when I went to the funeral of the daughter of an old school friend. The vicar said that Jesus loved her so much, he had taken her to live with him in heaven. I thought if he loved her at all, he would have left her here with her brother and parents.

24 Nov 2009

I do not believe in omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent beings for one minute. I tend to agree with Dawkins et al that there is no need for us to invent some kind of bearded, somewhat arrogant, somewhat paranoid, somewhat intolerant super-natural creator to explain natural processes. Unlike him though, I remain agnostic on the whole thing. Seems to me that, for all Dawkins makes a good fist of the general argument that you don't need to assume the existence of a creator, that is not sufficient proof in itself for a creator's non-existence. Science probably shouldn't even be asking the question really, cos science knows full well that it's main concern is the objective analysis of observable, measureable, testable phenomena in the universe we live in, and any being clever enough to create an entire universe must by definition be outside of it, and not subject to it's laws? confused

He or She must be forever beyond the reach of man's intellect, so it seems a futile exercise to try and second guess Him / Her / It. We're into the realms of meta-physics and philosophy, which is not science. A convenient get-out for God that is, I hear Richard Dawkins cry! lol

I do believe that their is such a thing as the spiritual, and the mystic. Mainly cos I have experienced things like communication with the dead, out-of-body bouncing around the ceiling, altered states of consciousness, etc, etc, that seem to verify that there is at least something valid in the common thread running through many of the worlds religions when you peel back the more obvious political, authoritarian shite that somehow got added later. There's a common element that seems to underpin pretty much every major religion you care to look at, even where you couldn't reasonably expect much in the way of contact between them. Science would probably say the whole mystic thing is something to do with the way the brain works, it's a peculiarity of human consciousness, and that this whole mystic, spiritual dimension is delusional, but while I continue to deny the existence of God, I can't find it within myself to deny that there is something deep within us that defies the efforts of science to reduce us to purely mechanical, electrical and chemical processes in a conglomeration of cells.
/ramble mode off for the night. :lol:
N x x x ;)

25 Nov 2009

I, on the other hand, am a dyslexic atheist.
There is no dog.
lol

25 Nov 2009

there was the Catholic dislexic person with deep religious doubts and Tourettes heard shouting from the confessional:
Fuck the Dog???
many an eyebrow were raised in that church I can tell you.
lp

26 Nov 2009

Quote by Kaznkev
why the new testament?why not the old testament?the qur'an ,rigveda,book of the dead,the zoroastrian avesta or any one of any number of religious texts...many offering different versions of the "one" God

A very good question,I practised buddhism for a number of years,I suppose its cutural connditing really,I tend to believe the many different texts are different socites trying to define the ultmate according to their cultural norms
And now i just sound like an aging hippie lol

I spent a week or two in a Buddhist monastery. I like the religion. It is not dogmatic. Yes it does teach morals, but they are transient. The individual is meant to move behond them, to transcend them and live a good and happy life.
The teaching of Buddha are but a start. Just after school I new a man. He did not mention Buddha once, but taught me the essence of Buddhism in Western terms. I will be eternal grateful to him.
Travis

26 Nov 2009

And I was under the impression that Buddhism wasn't a religion but more a philosophical route to self improvement and enlightenment.
While I'm here though (and I am trying soooooo hard to keep mum on this)if religious texts are just different cultures trying to fit God to their lifestyles what is the point/relevance of God...any useful definition of God would have it as a fixed point about which we are to turn,surely trying to define or understand God and fit it to ourselves renders it no more than a magician who does tricks to order

27 Nov 2009

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
And I was under the impression that Buddhism wasn't a religion but more a philosophical route to self improvement and enlightenment.
While I'm here though (and I am trying soooooo hard to keep mum on this)if religious texts are just different cultures trying to fit God to their lifestyles what is the point/relevance of God...any useful definition of God would have it as a fixed point about which we are to turn,surely trying to define or understand God and fit it to ourselves renders it no more than a magician who does tricks to order

You are so right, but then that is also true of Confucianism and I have seen a shrine to Confusus in a Hindu temple.