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Does It Count As "Swinging"?
Sexpert
Forget the dictionary. There isn`t an absolute definition for swinging.
Us? The term swinging used to conjure up the image of wife swapping.
However, the English language evolves.
To us, the involvement of a single is also swinging...this, surely, also describes the single; a swinger?
The waters are muddy. Some would describe the cheating single as a CHEAT and not a swinger, yet the couple are still swingers?
Then there is the justified cheat. To cut a long story short, there are scenarios( in our opinion) which justify the cheating. Arguably also a swinger?
Some of the posts on this thread suggest that sex PER SE is swinging. In which case why does the word even exist? A question which should be allowed...... yet again. It`s a commonly asked question and not necessarily through "oneupmanship" Its a question I would ask myself even if I were single. Im not even sure if it is in any way important. Probably more so than why does toast land on the buttered side.
Swinging is an are many regular and quality contributors on this site who have never made physical contact with anyone other than their partners. To us, they are very much a part of the swinging community. Are they swingers? Who cares, its needless semantics. Perhaps swinging could be summarised as the participation OR approving of sex without certain religious protocols..but preferably without hurting the innocent. Sorry about the hedging of bets at the end..its just a personal viewpoint.
Us? The term swinging used to conjure up the image of wife swapping.
However, the English language evolves.
To us, the involvement of a single is also swinging...this, surely, also describes the single; a swinger?
The waters are muddy. Some would describe the cheating single as a CHEAT and not a swinger, yet the couple are still swingers?
Then there is the justified cheat. To cut a long story short, there are scenarios( in our opinion) which justify the cheating. Arguably also a swinger?
Some of the posts on this thread suggest that sex PER SE is swinging. In which case why does the word even exist? A question which should be allowed...... yet again. It`s a commonly asked question and not necessarily through "oneupmanship" Its a question I would ask myself even if I were single. Im not even sure if it is in any way important. Probably more so than why does toast land on the buttered side.
Swinging is an are many regular and quality contributors on this site who have never made physical contact with anyone other than their partners. To us, they are very much a part of the swinging community. Are they swingers? Who cares, its needless semantics. Perhaps swinging could be summarised as the participation OR approving of sex without certain religious protocols..but preferably without hurting the innocent. Sorry about the hedging of bets at the end..its just a personal viewpoint.
Quote by foxys
Forget the dictionary. There isn`t an absolute definition for swinging.
Us? The term swinging used to conjure up the image of wife swapping.
However, the English language evolves.
To us, the involvement of a single is also swinging...this, surely, also describes the single; a swinger?
The waters are muddy. Some would describe the cheating single as a CHEAT and not a swinger, yet the couple are still swingers?
Then there is the justified cheat. To cut a long story short, there are scenarios( in our opinion) which justify the cheating. Arguably also a swinger?
Some of the posts on this thread suggest that sex PER SE is swinging. In which case why does the word even exist? A question which should be allowed...... yet again. It`s a commonly asked question and not necessarily through "oneupmanship" Its a question I would ask myself even if I were single. Im not even sure if it is in any way important. Probably more so than why does toast land on the buttered side.
Swinging is an are many regular and quality contributors on this site who have never made physical contact with anyone other than their partners. To us, they are very much a part of the swinging community. Are they swingers? Who cares, its needless semantics. Perhaps swinging could be summarised as the participation OR approving of sex without certain religious protocols..but preferably without hurting the innocent. Sorry about the hedging of bets at the end..its just a personal viewpoint.
were you agreeing with me?
I've put you down as a yes
Sex God
Quote by 3someinpreston
Hello,
Just a topic for discussion really! Given the seemingly endless amount of single guys wanting quick sex with single girls (in the ad section in particular), does this count as "Swinging"?
I was inclined to ignore the judgemental tone there as I'm trying to be a good boy and not get involved in anything "contentious", and Blue has already summed it up perfectly AFAIAC, but then I thought, what the hell?
What you have presented as a "topic for discussion" is actually just a vehicle for you to express your disapproval, and that's fine, you're entitled to express it, but I always feel a bit intellectually insulted by rhetorical questions.
Surely the point of swinging is for couples to extend there sex lives, with either another couple, or single guys and girls.
So you weren't actually asking whether it counts for the purpose of discussion, you just wanted to say it doesn't count. Any particular reason for not just saying that without the preamble?
But single blokes meeting single girls (or other single blokes for that matter!) is just, well, sex isn't it?
Tra n Lee xxx
I have a rhetorical question of my own to ask:
Is it doing you any harm?
I put it to you that swinging doesn't depend on marital status, it depends on attitude as others have said. If I were feeling uncharitable I could point out that couples meeting other couples who they don't know, don't care about and don't want to talk to is just, well, sex isn't it?
If you ask a dozen swingers what swinging is, you'll get a dozen different answers and I would question the authority of a dictionary writer or anyone else to define it. The word itself in that context is a fifty year old euphemism invented at a time when non-marital sex of any kind was strictly . People in general, swingers in particular, and the English language have all moved on a bit since then.
Also, I couldn't help but notice in your definition the inclusion of singles, not as swingers themselves but as people who swingers have sex with. Does this mean they are merely accessories to your lifestyle, a sort of plaything underclass? Could you, according to your definition, even be a swinger without those you seem to regard as unworthy?
Anyway, I don't see that there's an issue. Who you swing with is up to you and I really can't see why it should make any difference to you what people you don't want to swing with call themselves.
Could it be that you regard Swingers by your definition as an exclusive club, and people who don't fit into that definition are treading on your toes by using the word?
Sex God
Just a thought.
I wonder if the Swingle Singers were trying to hint at something back in the 70s?
Or were they just confused? :undecided: :undecided:
I wonder if the Swingle Singers were trying to hint at something back in the 70s?
Or were they just confused? :undecided: :undecided:
Some people need to know that they are defined by what they believe and do. Therefore when using words they expect other people to have the same understanding and behaviour. Some countries have a language which is very precise and definite. Our English language is enormously flexible in its use. This can be confusing at times.
I also think that at certain times people will attach greater focus on what they are doing and be more precise about what they say and mean. In the case of swinging, I believe a couple or single at the start of their new lifestyle will attach greater meaning to the language they use.
If you also consider other 'adult' activities such as bdsm. It involves arranging several people to participate in a session and sex will occur. All the basic elements of consenting adults are there, but most agree it is not 'swinging', its 's&m', and very different. So the words define the actions for some people.
I also think that at certain times people will attach greater focus on what they are doing and be more precise about what they say and mean. In the case of swinging, I believe a couple or single at the start of their new lifestyle will attach greater meaning to the language they use.
If you also consider other 'adult' activities such as bdsm. It involves arranging several people to participate in a session and sex will occur. All the basic elements of consenting adults are there, but most agree it is not 'swinging', its 's&m', and very different. So the words define the actions for some people.
Quote by 3someinpreston
Hello,
Just a topic for discussion really! Given the seemingly endless amount of single guys wanting quick sex with single girls (in the ad section in particular), does this count as "Swinging"?
Surely the point of swinging is for couples to extend there sex lives, with either another couple, or single guys and girls.
But single blokes meeting single girls (or other single blokes for that matter!) is just, well, sex isn't it?
Tra n Lee xxx
Thanks for the post - For me its a who cares response - there is a wide range of people using this site with different needs - your topic created a lot of discussion but I feel it is sad when people start having a go when people ask a question or share different views.... sometimes people who are single / attached / in a couple want to try different things....they may prefer 121 sometime and sometimes 3somes etc... lets just be open minded and respect diversity...Cheetah ...also from Preston
Sexpert
Quote by Happy Cats
were you agreeing with me?
I've put you down as a yes
Yes we were. Though the one scenario you cited did seem to describe an open marriage rather than a swinging marriage. Saying that, there must be an overlap somewhere, depending on the definition of swinging.
Whatever that may be! I often wonder what Hitlerwould have made of a question like this 
Would Hilter have been a swinger ?
Was Hitler a swinger ?
Would Hilter have put this topic in the same pidgeon hole as cock size/pubic shaving/are there cliques on SH ?????
I think it was bluexxx, and not Hitler that summed it up a few weeks ago - and again in this thread -
It's an attitude.
SWINGLES.
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
Would Hilter have been a swinger ?
Was Hitler a swinger ?
Would Hilter have put this topic in the same pidgeon hole as cock size/pubic shaving/are there cliques on SH ?????
I think it was bluexxx, and not Hitler that summed it up a few weeks ago - and again in this thread -
It's an attitude.
SWINGLES.
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
Sex God
You wouldn't be trying to invoke a certain law there would you DB ?
Sex God
To lock or not to lock, that is the question.....
As Kat wandered off to find his keys last night and never returned :shock: , I feel it is my duty (seeing as I am right anyway) to lay this topic to bed. Interesting as it is, as I am right, there isn't much else to say hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Tell you what, I'm off to work now, I'll leave it open til I get there, and if the thread has taken an interesting twist by that time I will leave it open, but if it is still the same old stuff I will lock it.
Therein lies the challenge
Of course, if Kat returns with the keys, he may well lock it anyway, so I am free of any blame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
As Kat wandered off to find his keys last night and never returned :shock: , I feel it is my duty (seeing as I am right anyway) to lay this topic to bed. Interesting as it is, as I am right, there isn't much else to say hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: Tell you what, I'm off to work now, I'll leave it open til I get there, and if the thread has taken an interesting twist by that time I will leave it open, but if it is still the same old stuff I will lock it.
Therein lies the challenge
Of course, if Kat returns with the keys, he may well lock it anyway, so I am free of any blame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
There are several things that have been raised by this thread that I want to comment on (which really, thinking about it, was a pointless thing to say as had there have been nothing for me to respond to then I wouldn't have responded), anyway, I agree with Angel, LMG & a few others that this question was put in a somewhat superior tone, so don't be surprised that people got defensive, 3some.
I have never really seen myself as a swinger, I might have played with swingers, but I don't recall ever being engaged in swinging. As I have seen it, if I were to have sex with a fem on her own, whether she is married, part of a couple or single, then I see that as 1-to-1 sex, me and 2 women, that's a threesome. If I play with a married couple then that's either a 3some or it could be cuckolding, if I watched 2 couples playing together that is them swinging and me being a voyuer, if I join in it becomes group sex, it could be an orgy, but that doesn't sound right to me, so I'll leave that at group sex.
I see swinging as two couples sharing sexual activity, so that could be same room sex, I guess, soft swinging, or full sex. Now, what about if I met up with a fem and went to see a couple? I guess that's swinging, but it doesn't work for me to describe it as such, I would see that as group sex also, for it to be swinging FOR ME I would need to be sharing my loved one, someone to whom I had a total comitment, that's probably where the whole concept of me swinging falls down for me, I don't think I could be a swinger, but I have no objection to being called a swinger. I can handle all sorts of sexual situations, I'm not shy and I happy to just dive in and give most things a try, but I don't think I could emotionally deal with sharing my 'significant other'.
I'd be interested if other singles agree with me. Anyway, them fucking couples, stealing my single fems for their la-de-dah threesomes, it shouldn't be allowed
Does that contribute anything to the discussion?
I have never really seen myself as a swinger, I might have played with swingers, but I don't recall ever being engaged in swinging. As I have seen it, if I were to have sex with a fem on her own, whether she is married, part of a couple or single, then I see that as 1-to-1 sex, me and 2 women, that's a threesome. If I play with a married couple then that's either a 3some or it could be cuckolding, if I watched 2 couples playing together that is them swinging and me being a voyuer, if I join in it becomes group sex, it could be an orgy, but that doesn't sound right to me, so I'll leave that at group sex.
I see swinging as two couples sharing sexual activity, so that could be same room sex, I guess, soft swinging, or full sex. Now, what about if I met up with a fem and went to see a couple? I guess that's swinging, but it doesn't work for me to describe it as such, I would see that as group sex also, for it to be swinging FOR ME I would need to be sharing my loved one, someone to whom I had a total comitment, that's probably where the whole concept of me swinging falls down for me, I don't think I could be a swinger, but I have no objection to being called a swinger. I can handle all sorts of sexual situations, I'm not shy and I happy to just dive in and give most things a try, but I don't think I could emotionally deal with sharing my 'significant other'.
I'd be interested if other singles agree with me. Anyway, them fucking couples, stealing my single fems for their la-de-dah threesomes, it shouldn't be allowed
Does that contribute anything to the discussion?
Sex God
Single fem here....... 
Grab me quick marms b4 those greedy cpls do
I should be so lucky
Grab me quick marms b4 those greedy cpls do
I should be so lucky
Quote by 3someinpreston
Hello,
Just a topic for discussion really! Given the seemingly endless amount of single guys wanting quick sex with single girls (in the ad section in particular), does this count as "Swinging"?
Surely the point of swinging is for couples to extend there sex lives, with either another couple, or single guys and girls.
But single blokes meeting single girls (or other single blokes for that matter!) is just, well, sex isn't it?
Tra n Lee xxx
Single guys and single girls meeting up for sex ARE extending their sex lives......... from nothing to something ... if they then go on to team up and swing as a couple well then it IS swinging isn't it.. we all have to start somewhere.
I'm a single guy yet at the weekend I got to play with several single ladies .... in the same room .... is that swinging??. Yes, it is in my opinion.
Interesting discussion ;)
Initially I was inclined to agree with AC and Lilmiss and I still feel 3some, that your first post was a tad 'exclusive' ie if you're not a couple then you can't be a swinger. However, I am not in the same situation as a single fem, I am part of a couple although my bf chooses not to 'swing' at this point in time-so where does that leave me ?
I don't consider myself a cheat as my bf is fully aware of my activities and supports me wholeheartedly.:cool:
I can't be classed as a swinger as I meet single fems alone.
I can't be a swingle because I am not single. :shock:
So, where does that leave me and people in my situation? Feck knows, but I will always class myself as a swinger and bollocks to any dictionary definition :thumbup: Swinging is an attitude, a lifestyle, I share that attitude and I enjoy that lifestyle.
Minx x x swinger and proud
Initially I was inclined to agree with AC and Lilmiss and I still feel 3some, that your first post was a tad 'exclusive' ie if you're not a couple then you can't be a swinger. However, I am not in the same situation as a single fem, I am part of a couple although my bf chooses not to 'swing' at this point in time-so where does that leave me ?
I don't consider myself a cheat as my bf is fully aware of my activities and supports me wholeheartedly.:cool:
I can't be classed as a swinger as I meet single fems alone.
I can't be a swingle because I am not single. :shock:
So, where does that leave me and people in my situation? Feck knows, but I will always class myself as a swinger and bollocks to any dictionary definition :thumbup: Swinging is an attitude, a lifestyle, I share that attitude and I enjoy that lifestyle.
Minx x x swinger and proud
Quote by BiWelshMinx
Interesting discussion ;)
So, where does that leave me and people in my situation? Feck knows, but I will always class myself as a swinger and bollocks to any dictionary definition :thumbup: Swinging is an attitude, a lifestyle, I share that attitude and I enjoy that lifestyle.
Minx x x swinger and proud
Good on you :D
We couldnt agree more
Mr & Mrs goodtimez
Quote by blonde
IMHO ............ swinging is different things to different people !!!
and do what makes you happy !
blonde
I think you've hit the nail on the head
Like everything in life your perspective of a situation is where you are at at the time. Swinging means different things to different people and that's the beauty of it, if we were all the same life would be sooooo boring
Quote by polly40
Swinging was a term made up to acknowledge those who "wife swap" - two couples who swap partners for extra-marital pleasure and to fulfil sexual fantasy. That is absolute fact.
All i'm saying, and this is ALL i'm saying, is that the term "Swingers", applies to couples who wife swap. That is what its always been. Thats the fact!
Hang on a mo!!!!! if wife swap comes into it that means us couples who are not married aren't swnigers either!!!
God I am so confused -- -Anyone want a shag???? :P
Well i agree Polly if wife swap does come into it then maybe it does mean us couples who are not married aren't swingers either!! :silly:
And as for the offer of a shag???....... well will we be ok to have a shag, and, yet still swing when we go to a club or whatever :evil2: or will we just be some sort of perverts??
But sod what 3some think :censored: we will just enjoy ourseleves, cause, i call what we do swinging wether we are meeting single females or single males at the clubs or where ever we are enjoying this lifestyle that i love and i know you do to
:hump: Quote by EmA
IMHO ............ swinging is different things to different people !!!
and do what makes you happy !
blonde
I think you've hit the nail on the head
Like everything in life your perspective of a situation is where you are at at the time. Swinging means different things to different people and that's the beauty of it, if we were all the same life would be sooooo boring
Thats me .......... just so perseptive and clever ........... all part of being blonde !!
Quote by dambuster
I often wonder what Hitler would have made of a question like this
Would Hilter have been a swinger ?
Was Hitler a swinger ?
Would Hilter have put this topic in the same pidgeon hole as cock size/pubic shaving/are there cliques on SH ?????
I think it was bluexxx, and not Hitler that summed it up a few weeks ago - and again in this thread -
It's an attitude.
SWINGLES.
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
If Dammie is talking about Hitler, then this thread has soooooooooo got to be locked :roll:
:smackbottom: :rascal: 
Sex God
Kit
You going to lock up? Bluexx was gongi to earlier but didn't! :shock:
Must have got her mind on going out tonight and drinking!!
You going to lock up? Bluexx was gongi to earlier but didn't! :shock:
Must have got her mind on going out tonight and drinking!!
Casanova
I often wonder what Hitlerwould have made of a question like this
Would Hilter have been a swinger ?
Was Hitler a swinger ?
Would Hilter have put this topic in the same pidgeon hole as cock size/pubic shaving/are there cliques on SH ?????
quote]
I think Hitler would be advertising along the lines of 'Looking for country to fook on a long term basis. Will require secret entry from rear'
Would Hilter have been a swinger ?
Was Hitler a swinger ?
Would Hilter have put this topic in the same pidgeon hole as cock size/pubic shaving/are there cliques on SH ?????
quote]
I think Hitler would be advertising along the lines of 'Looking for country to fook on a long term basis. Will require secret entry from rear'
Quote by Sarah
Kit
You going to lock up? Bluexx was gongi to earlier but didn't! :shock:
Must have got her mind on going out tonight and drinking!!
Yeah, think I will - just can't be doing with trying to get my head round Dammie, Hitler and swinging :shock:
:lol: locked before anyone dares say it :lol:
Kit
xxxxxx
