Dogging & the straight man - a curious female dogger

14 Dec 2006

After a few 'interesting' dogging experiences, I'm just curious to ask the straight men on the site about their 'sexuality' when faced with dogging sessions. After meeting guys who have spoken vehemently about being straight, straight, straight, and then taken them dogging, I have been surprised, and very aroused, by the fact that they have bi tendencies when faced with a very horny situation, and an available mouth. I'm now curious to know if it is the majority or minority of doggers/straight guys out there who would 'turn' in a specific situation.
I'm interested to know if its a case of 'If I don't look down or its dark then I don't care who is sucking my cock' or if men genuinely are greedy when put in this position. blast

I understand there will be some guys out there who will be reluctant to post, but go for it, none of us are judgemental on here, and I'd really love to know if my experiences have been the norm or not.
Would love to hear your comments, from suckers and suckees smile

14 Dec 2006

well don't really go dogging to often and when we do it's mostly for my girlfriends pleasure, but we have witnessed this type of thing yes, i'm straight and wouldn't consider it and would freely admit it if i did, we also frequent the chat rooms and the amount of straight guys we've spoken to in chat who've admitted to being bi when having a private chat is high, infact i could count the straight ones on 1 hand lol, so bearing this in mind what do you class as straight? because all these guys had straight in there profile but admitted to being bi in a private chat, so why put straight? is there a reason behind it somewhere or am i just being a noob. i'm straight and freely admit to it so nobody can say they only said that to get a meet with me and my girlfriend. sorry but some would. but i think your experiences are normal for what we've witnessed so far through private chat, as a lot of guys who have straight on their profile admit to being bi while in a conversation, thats worring to me as i think honesty is a huge part of this lifestyle. but great post and i'll be keeping an eye on this one :thumbup:

14 Dec 2006

I've experienced very much the same in the chat rooms, truly amazing how many 'straight' guys appear in the bi rooms, and I'm sure the majority are curious, which is fine. I think on this site the majority of people are very horny and 'greedy' and open to any suggestion, but we are all, of course, on here because we are very open with our sexuality and clear about wanting more sex. I think it is a place to give straight guys a chance to try new things, voice their hidden fantasies, and bring things to the surface they have kept hidden for years. I completely agree about honesty, but then again the vast majority of guys are straight until actually asked the question, and I am sure they think being bi turns off a lot of women (not me!!).
However, I am curious about dogging sites, especially the guys who are there not through a pre-arranged session on here, but the 'normal' guys, the truck drivers, the opportunists, the weary travellers lol

I'd be really interested to know if they are just as bi in a horny situation smile

Mind you, I'm also interested to know about guys on here who would if they had the opportunity, the guys who don't necessarily go into chat.
Thanks for your reply tho, very interesting I'm not the only one to have experienced it biggrin

14 Dec 2006

I can say in all honesty, I have never seen guys getting it on when out dogging. Had a queue waiting for my mouth to open, but never seen them go down on, or handle each other lol

A guy did once reach out for Jon's cock whilst watching, but he pushed him away before he could get hold and said no thanks, and the guy carried on with no offence and we all had a good time.
The only time I have ever seen guys interacting is on cam on here redface

:lol:
TJ

14 Dec 2006

You need to come out dogging in the sunny North East then smile

Or it might just be something I'm doing rotflmao

14 Dec 2006

we go out dogging regular and although we havnt ever seen bi or gay males having fun we have heard about them, hubby is straight and will always be straight and couldnt ever see him drifting off the straight path.
I read your previous posts and we have found this about straight guys who will admit in chat they are really bi and it really gets me mad and wish they would be honest but there again its up to them, but I wonder if they have ever missed out on some fun with a bi couple for putting straight when they are really bi confused

14 Dec 2006

I'm sure they are, but then again, I do know a lot of women who won't play with bi guys, and are turned off by the idea, so maybe they just have to hit a happy medium, and only confess it when pushed, but its a give away when they are in the bi chatrooms lol

14 Dec 2006

Although not a dogger myself the subject has some resonance for me since I am one of those 'straight guys' you highlight who has had bi-tendencies when faced with certain situations.
It all dates back to the early 1990's when myself & my GF at the time used to swing a lot & she was hot for wanking / orally 'double- teaming' me with guys & then having me & her reciprocate.
Maybe it was just the experience of having the woman there & her being so turned on by it all that sparked a desire dunno

I've never indulged in any bi-related activity since then but wouldn't be adverse to trying again should the opportunity present itself - only within the same limited MMF scenario, though, & purely as a 'take it or leave it' thang !!!
* Having ruminated further on this my status is now 'bi-curious' *

15 Dec 2006

well my opinion is that if you dont want to and dont think/fantasise about having any forms of fun with a member of the same sex then you are straight,
and also if you do have fantasys or want to try or have tried it and liked it and would do it again then you are bi or curious, this goes for men and women
I (tina) dont play with bi men and feel that sometimes a bi or curious man will say hes straight just so he can have fun with me, infact I dont just feel this as it has actually happened and the person in question was caught out,

15 Dec 2006

Quote by ClassyKatie
You need to come out dogging in the sunny North East then
Or it might just be something I'm doing

Katie and Yerbouti have both alluded to the part that a 'female presence' has in these situations. It seems to be a recurring theme with a lot of bi-curious males that they will only 'do it' if there is a female involved.
I know a few women who have had 'straight' lovers who have admitted to bi leanings and when told that she had bi friends who would be interested in 'helping them out' in all cases they said they would, but ONLY if the woman was involved. In all these cases the 'play' followed the same pattern where the 'bi-curious male would play with and sometimes fuck the woman before engaging in oral with the bi bloke. Almost as if they are asserting their 'straightness' in front of the female of the species before putting into practice their bi fantasies.
Of course another, more simple explanation, is that a previously straight man would be used to sex in female company and would be more comfortable with that, than a one-to-one with another male.
And Tina's point about bi men 'hiding' their bi tendancies is interesting. Most women I know who don't 'do' bi men are pretty much evenly split between those who don't like the idea of male same sex relationships and those who think it presents a health risk to them, ie. 'I'm not sucking that. I don't know where it's been!'
And Katie's theory about 'any mouth in a storm' is an interesting one too. As far as the sex is concerned, yes if a guy has his eyes shut, does it feel just as good as a woman's mouth? And if he opens his eyes and sees a man sucking when does it stop feeling nice and becomes something 'disgusting' It would be interesting to hear from any men on here who have experienced finding a man's mouth on the end of their cock when they thought it was a woman and how they reacted to it.
An interesting topic, Katie. :)
Lonni xxx

15 Dec 2006

I heard a good phrase the other day whilst talking to a lady. She said she is 'situationally bi'. Meaning that when she is aroused enough she is bi-sexual.
I think there are things that all of us feel we wouldn't enjoy when thinking about them in the cold light of day. However when we become aroused the boundaries seem to shift a little, or maybe even a alot.

15 Dec 2006

All very interesting responses, and its certainly opened up a healthy debate biggrin

I wonder if this would be better moved into the Cafe, to open up the discussion to those who don't necessarily dog.
Really interested in everyones opinion. Thanks so much for your replies so far.

15 Dec 2006

our "show" often involves a third party..ie, my mate "the master"..sometimes in the confines of my vehicle, we have to resort to some rather nimble antics..but..it has to be said, if he ever stuck his cock in me face, i'd fire a flame-thrower into the fuckers bollocks lol

personally, i'm not tempted..my ego wouldn't stand rejection from fat ugly fellas as well as most women :cry: besides, i can't stand pain.. :lol:
the number of "straight" fellas out there, that aren't amiss to a little same sex fumbling, is huge..most are open about it, but in our experience..the funniest ones are those experiencing an amount of mental turmoil..often they'll be overly outspoken about "queers" for fear of their curiosity "leaking"..we have reason to assume this is also true of "some" boy racers, who really do seem to get off on baring their bottoms and spreading their cheeks at every oppertunity, regardless as to wether the recipient of this grotesque treat is actually gay..but why let the facts get in the way of a good fantasy..such is their pre-occupation with all things rectal :lol:
one aspect that we see, reasonably often..well, ok, nearly every time we go out :lol: is that of the tranny fellas..obviously for the fellas struggling with their "curiosity", this helps..if it smells like a woman, looks like a woman and dresses like one..well so what if she has got a nine inch fucking clit? :lol: having said that, we've seen a couple of cross dressers that resemble jim bowen out of "bullseye" :shock: maybe you would get something for two in a bed...ok, so you don't remember the catchphrase redface

i reckon some of the lads watch the owd porno, get a rascal of a boner watching the "act"..then associate those horny feelings with both the owd jack, and the owd sausage..if the owd cock is seen to be disapearing up the lady's rear, then the imaginations get the better of them..specially if she is growling "yaa, dat is goot, ika comma" ..only problem being, they don't fancy blokes..just get horny thinking about the owd cock :shock:
there are many incidents of the ole "nut cupping" out in those dark carparks too..we hear the cries of "who is holding my bollocks?" piercing the night, all the time wink

:lol:

15 Dec 2006

Moved to the Cafe to open up the discussion to non-dogging as well as dogging members wink

15 Dec 2006

Thanks for that NWC, would love to hear others opinions on this, and experiences.
Many thanks xx

15 Dec 2006

Quote by ClassyKatie
Thanks for that NWC, would love to hear others opinions on this, and experiences.
Many thanks xx

IMHO I think that most not all men have some form of sexual fantasy regarding same sex or at least have had one.
And again most if not all straight men wouldn't want it known for fear of being ridiculed.
I wrestled for years with my concience(is that spelt right) with my own feelings having had mm sex when I was younger. I feel ok with it now, and class myself as semi-experienced bi.
To me if the sexual chemistry was there then I wouldn't have a problem. But who knows. Have to wait and see if I get in that situation and take as it comes lol
hope that helps.
x

15 Dec 2006

I know what you mean, and I think its sad that there is any situation, even on here, that men would be ridiculed for being honest and open about their sexuality. Im sure more people would be grateful if they were, but it certainly is interesting to know that men are more open to suggestion when there is a horny situation. Everyone believes that the majority of women have dreamt of/tried/wanted to try a bi experience, I'm rapidly learning that its not just us girls! smile

Well done guys for being honest, and I'll kick anyone who ridicules any of you for 'coming out', and Bloke, you keep it zipped, this is not for your benefit!! lol

15 Dec 2006

hi i thought i would get in on this
i think of myself as a straight man as i would not do anything with a straight man when i am not horny. but get me horny and i like the idea. confused

i have listed myself as bi curious so people know that so it wouldnt come as a suprise redface

but i think it could just be the guys arnt as horny when they describe themselves to you.
Honest but pointless me to the t

15 Dec 2006

i don't mind getting my cock out in front of another guy,i don't even mine if my cock touches another guys cock.....if your getting a BJ or doing DP with a woman....but that is as far as it goes.

15 Dec 2006

Quote by vandg
i have listed myself as bi curious so people know that so it wouldnt come as a suprise
but i think it could just be the guys arnt as horny when they describe themselves to you.

Well I'm glad you are honest about it on your profile, and I see your point, but I always thought guys were horny all the time on here, and would over exagerate their profiles, they seem to when it comes to size, and body shape lol

Nice to know how 'adaptable' guys can be when they are horny smile

15 Dec 2006

Quote by Mr-Powers
i don't mind getting my cock out in front of another guy,i don't even mine if my cock touches another guys cock.....if your getting a BJ or doing DP with a woman....but that is as far as it goes.

Oh Mr P, Bloke will be so disappointed lol

He'll try to prove you wrong!! :twisted:

15 Dec 2006

I just spell it out on my profile the name sort of gives it away lol!
I do feel though that some men are being deliberately dishonest as some members have commented on previously and others try to supress the urges either from themselves or their partners.
Great debate though biggrin

15 Dec 2006

Not sure I can answer from a dogging point of view as we dont go dogging but here goes :lol2:
It's only recently that Steve came out as being bi curious, before that we would only meet straight guys and once or twice we have come across guys that were actually bi but didn't disclose it. Since we have been looking for a bi guy we have had loads (and I mean loads :lol2: ) of replies to our ad from guys that say they are straight on their profile.... HornyBear pointed out to us in another thread that he doesn't (or didn't, I haven't checked his profile) say he is bi in his profile due to the rediculous amount of PM's from single guys. (I hope I have remembered that correctly redface

) so that could be one of the reasons that they are not honest about their sexuality dunno

But it is very fustrating if you like the look of a profile and they say they are one thing and you are looking for the other... We would much rather someone be honest about it smile

16 Dec 2006

Quote by ClassyKatie
]I'm interested to know if its a case of 'If I don't look down or its dark then I don't care who is sucking my cock' or if men genuinely are greedy when put in this position.

you've indirectly hit on am interesting question. i.e. does a sexual act define sexuality?
i don't believe it does. i know 'straight' men who are quite happy to have a guy suck their dick ((( apologies if that's a vulgar way of putting things? confused

))) but they wouldn't see themselves as bi, and i'd have to agree?

Quote by ClassyKatie
I'm sure they are, but then again, I do know a lot of women who won't play with bi guys, and are turned off by the idea

how many ads say no bi guys, my man is straight? general misunderstanding of bisexuality IMO. why would a bi guy go after an avowed straight guy? nowt there for him is there? why would a straight woman have any opinion on male bisexuality whatsoever. to be blunt, a bi guy will fulfill her sexual desires in exactly the same way as a straight guy? i mean . . . . how would either of them know? the answer is . . . they just wouldn't?
as for dogging. a public display of bi / homo - sexuality can be dangerous, particularly given the prevalence of boy racer types at your average dogging location. i can see how that particular sexual prefernence is kept hidden in public, cos the expression of it in a public place can be bloody dangerous?
neil x x x ;)

16 Dec 2006

Quote by ClassyKatie
After a few 'interesting' dogging experiences, I'm just curious to ask the straight men on the site about their 'sexuality' when faced with dogging sessions. After meeting guys who have spoken vehemently about being straight, straight, straight, and then taken them dogging, I have been surprised, and very aroused, by the fact that they have bi tendencies when faced with a very horny situation, and an available mouth. I'm now curious to know if it is the majority or minority of doggers/straight guys out there who would 'turn' in a specific situation.
I'm interested to know if its a case of 'If I don't look down or its dark then I don't care who is sucking my cock' or if men genuinely are greedy when put in this position.
I understand there will be some guys out there who will be reluctant to post, but go for it, none of us are judgemental on here, and I'd really love to know if my experiences have been the norm or not.
Would love to hear your comments, from suckers and suckees

I can honestly say I have never seen any m on m contact when dogging. I am sure you get guys who wander into gay dogging area's and think wtf I might as well join in but I have never seen anything but heterosexual activity in a heterosexual dogging area.
Now as to you comment about "none of us are judgemental on here" hmmmm!!!

16 Dec 2006

Quote by JesseP
Now as to you comment about "none of us are judgemental on here" hmmmm!!!

Yes this site represents the same broad spectrum of people as society in general.
But what I think the beautiful ClassyKatie was getting at, was that on a site populated by people who by and large have a very forward-looking outlook on all matters sexual, a person should be able to post honestly about such things on here, without the usual moral indignation you would find in society at large.
As you were.
Lonni xxx

16 Dec 2006

Quote by JesseP
I can honestly say I have never seen any m on m contact when dogging. !

much has to do with the venue i'd say..because boy only fun features quite highly at a couple of places we use..many sites play host to both dogging, swinging and cruising..at our most frequented perving arena, there is a flurry of gay activity around tea time..irrespective of season, so, as you can imagine, during the summer months it can be quite obvious..and as those carparks are well used by families, not without risk..in fact measures were made a couple of years ago in order to curtail this aspect...having said that..the time slot is in part, established out of neccessity and convenience, because many, if not most of those fellas are married, and returning from work..we see suited and booted merging with delivery personell..the bushes fair ripple with lust for an hour or so...then it all falls silent lol

the other stuff we see..the things that fit the context of the topic..is that of fellas being a little more flexible with their rigid sexual definitions when things are getting heated :lol: tabletop gangbangs feature quite highly on our scene..and often there will be 10 fellas in various states of undress and arousal at any sitting :lol: at those times, we do see rather a lot of groping :lol: sometimes subtle, other times pretending to be accidental and sometimes quite blatant..interestingly, aside from the odd comment, actual voilence is surprisingly uncommon, and smiling acceptance quite frequent :lol: if the partner of the bang'ee is the groper..and it is something we see wink

then the boys have a dilema :lol: and as to which way they'll go with the option is down to their state of mind at the time :lol:
the idea of men dropping their guard extends further than same sex fumblings though..some of the girls will not allow players to wear condoms..trouble is..when the guys get so horny as to be a little less caring..their desire for a shag often overcomes their desire to be safe..and many a time we've encountered a traumatised bareback shagger seeking a can of petrol in which to plunge his cock..much of the reason for this refusal to accept a protected willy, is due of course to the male partner wanting to see, feel and sometimes even taste dogger juice :lol: although they'll usually not make it obvious :wink: :lol:
often guys we encounter will put their feelers out without bringing the subject up directly..others that maybe more used to same sex fun are often more blatant, sometimes shockingly so :shock: :lol: but others will be a little more .we do find the ones that are particulary outspoken about "gays and trannies" and not "understanding it" are usually the one's struggling against their feelings :lol: and its no surprise that sometimes, much later on, they are the one's caught in headlights sucking off a bearded schoolgirl :wink: :lol:
its mainly in the early hours that we see the arrival of the wigged and frocked ones..and pretty damned convincing some are too :shock: had me fooled once or twice, i can tell ya..but obviously for those guys that are attracted to cock, but not men, such visions of hung femininity are an ideal solution..and boy do they make the most of it :lol: we once saw a couple, the male half of which was open about being bi..interacting with two TVs in, on and around the car..it was hard to guage who was doing what, and to whom :shock: :lol:

16 Dec 2006

Quote by Mr-Powers
i don't mind getting my cock out in front of another guy,i don't even mine if my cock touches another guys cock.....if your getting a BJ or doing DP with a woman....but that is as far as it goes.

Ditto
There will always be some accidental contact during MFM fun, and i have no problem with that (does that make me Bi? :shock: )
but deliberate attempts of sexual contact from a male will be politely refused.
having been there in the past I can honestly say that there is no X-factor in M on M contact for me, and as i told the last one who tried, after the third polite refusal, please do not ask again as a smack in the mouth often offends. rolleyes

16 Dec 2006

What an interesting thread which continues to confirm to me what an intelligent and diverse group of people we have on here - it really is good to know... Uncle Dirty, I've said it before and I'll say it again - you SHOULD write books. I can imagine something not disimilar to the 'Around The World With Michael Palin' ones but with various words in the title simply exchanged for more relevant text lol

I have been an avid Dogger in the past and I have been in many situations where 'straight' men have played (usually with women and alcohol and general horniness around!). I laughed out loud the other day when I came across a Photo Ad. in the Dogging section where the female of the couple had written quite agressively in bold UPPER CASE "my husband is straight, straight, straight - do you hear that!!!... so please no gay or bi males mad

" I thought to myself "well, he wasn't when I had a 20 minute conversation about MM blow jobs followed by practical demonstration at a Dogging location a few months back.. in fact, he didn't even mention being married confused

" (There were photos of them and he'd also mentioned his SH username to me when we talked so it WAS him wink

)
Of any of the guys we (as a gay couple) have met on here, all of their profiles have said 'straight' and they have approached us... after all why would we have aproached them if we thought they weren't interested? To Shireen's point... if it doesn't 'do what it says on the tin' why would you buy it? This can sometimes make life confusing but does also make for nice surprises now and then :lol: Some of the guys have been inexperienced, some fully fledged bi-boys but all have been 'straight' as far as their profiles are concerned. I think it's more about what they perceive as being acceptable in the World than here to be honest as my experience has showed me that the genuine people here don't really give a damn as long as you respect their preferences :P
I'll keep watching this one and keep :gagged: ..... for now :wink: More from me later :P

16 Dec 2006

Quote by Bloke2005
To Shireen's point... if it doesn't 'do what it says on the tin' why would you buy it? This can sometimes make life confusing but does also make for nice surprises now and then Some of the guys have been inexperienced, some fully fledged bi-boys but all have been 'straight' as far as their profiles are concerned. I think it's more about what they perceive as being acceptable in the World than here to be honest as my experience has showed me that the genuine people here don't really give a damn as long as you respect their preferences :P

Interesting point Bloke, I never thought about it that way... kiss