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Education – How Was Yours?
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Most of us are now able to reflect on whether we’re grateful for the education we received or remain dissatisfied.
I know there are one or two mature students on here and we are all in ‘lifelong learning’ as it’s called nowadays.
My brief comments on my education are:
I went to a London boys’ comprehensive and remain permanently annoyed towards a ‘system’ that allowed me to go to a school that excluded girls and gave me a mess of an education to boot.
I find this single sex school notion an unhelpful and unenlightened manifestation within the education system.
I struggled terribly over my A/Ls and went on to do an Honours Degree in English Literature/Philosophy at a polytechnic.
My attitude now is becoming fairly extreme.
I think that undertaking such purely ‘academic’ degrees is of questionable value when you find yourself leaving college and walking slap bang into the hard world of work.
I believe most of us – unless we are genius historians, lit crits, sociologists, anthropologists etc in the making - would be better off undertaking shorter, far more practical, extremely intensive courses, say of 2 years’ duration.
I find this continuing obsession with 3 year academic degrees utterly bewildering.
One thing I like about tuition fees is that they would force prospective students to reconsider taking on 3 years’ study in Communication Studies, History of Art, Linguistics etc.
What do think of the education you had?
Any regrets?
Did it prepare you for the world of work?
What would you go back and do differently?

PS – on a few related points:
rolleyes isn’t it notable these days how Text Messaging and the increasing fondness kids have for scrawling graffiti everywhere is promoting a palpable revolution in phonetic spelling!!!! (Stay calm Jags and Willxx69 – stay calm!!!!)
If the USofA believe they devised a phonetic spelling system - they can think again. These kids take it to an unprecedented level.
Frustrating though English spelling is - the only thing that might stop this madness for phonetic spelling is that once these kids hit the workplace it will not be tolerated. We’ll see.
:roll: also notice the increasing difficulty kids have with the homonyms: their, they’re, there and theirs, there’s.
:roll: the now common problem with ‘ its ’ and ‘ it’s ’
I went to school in North and East London and hated it, I came from a poor family so never had the things other kids had. I didn't feel I belonged so was off school quiet a lot, I left before I took exams so haven't got an 'o' Level to my name.
As the old saying goes, I learnt from the university of life. I don't think I've done too bad considering, although now I crave knowledge and love learning new things.
also notice the increasing difficulty kids have with the homonyms

If it was only the homonyms.....with my 16 year old it's the bloody hormones! biggrin
Kinky Lizard
I loved School. I went to a boys only (BOO) Grammer School and did ok I suppose.
The problem was School didnt like me. In truth I was Expelled for crimes against humanity
1 Blowing up most of the Phyics lab. Amazing what you can do with a little enthusiasm and no understanding
2 Removing all the pannels from a Geography teachers Citroen 2cv (red) and replacing them with the Headmasters Citroen 2CV (yellow) in a mix and match pattern. Hey presto two noddy cars and the end of my education at that establishment.
However two years at the local colledge on day release with all those nice young ladies and a job company car money etc.
Now thats education
(wasnt that Paul Weller)
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I went to a deservedly lesser known public school and am glad to come out of it fairly unscathed. I was, and still am, very lazy did the bare minimum to get by and they failed to spot this gave me zero encouragement, something that I remain bitter about to this day! Just think I could have been a contender!!
If you ever saw Kez, that was my education. You had thre choices if you were a lad, works down the pit, work down the pit OR work down the pit. It was worse if you were a woman....get married, get married OR get married. What little I did learn from the few I respected helped me to learn from life. And to this day I cannot ever say I needed a periodic logtable or to be able to run around some wood, in shorts.t-shirt, in the freezing depths of december....?
I went to quite a good school but in truth I was bored by education by 14 so I spent most of my time with my mates in rooms that were never so often we would get raided but we moved on to another room-squatters you may were quite sedate by all standards we had kettles and drank tea and had starnge discussions.
The level of education I had was OK and i'm amazed i could be arsed to go to university as i am now i'd have left at 16.
My school provided me with nothing to prepare me for outside life except that I was an outsider and that in my eyes is a good didn't even give sex education - the nearest I got was Rebecca putting her hands down my trousers in French lessons (bite your lip and count to dix simon)
Though if I did go back I would change one thing - I would have spoke my mind to half the people who i really couldn't stand. mad
Stay calm, he says! STAY CALM????
You talk about Text Messaging and phonetic spelling and then tell me to stay calm?
Jags and her attention to language was one of the first things that attracted me to this Forum and convinced me to join. I thought she sounded wonderful. Now I know that she IS wonderful and I have just been mentioned in the same breath as her! I am overwhelmed.
Off for a lie down now! redface
Will
Education is wasted on the young

I think that's the quote anyway. How things would change if I got the chance to do it all over again.
My memories of Infant School are pretty limited. It was a pretty strict catholic school and most of the teachers were nuns. No, not the fantasy type of nun, these were vicious bastards with canes that force fed you cabbage if you left it on the side of your plate. They used the classic methods of teaching though and I was streets ahead of my next door neighbour who was being taught using the phonetic alphabet.
Junior school was a walk in the park compared to what I'd been through previously. Fortunately I was pretty bright and the lessons came fairly easy. There was also lots of sport too. Probably the biggest influence Junior School had on my life was that they managed to get me through the 11+. That was the difference between going to a mixed comprehensive school or the all boys Grammar School. Did I know what I was letting myself in for? No, and that's why I unwittingly passed the exam.
Senior school. A catholic all boys Grammar School run by priests. Hundreds of hormonal schoolboys and not a pair of gym knickers in sight. The standards were good and the education was good in the classical sense. Did it prepare me for the realities of life? I don't think so.
University? Nope. A quirk of fate made me take a different fork in the road. An apprenticeship in Her Majesties Royal Navy beckoned. I spent the next 10 years in another virtually all male environment. I'd been in one from the age of 11 until I was 26 years old.
Now you know why I'm on a swingers site flirting with every woman that will let me. rotflmao
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A catholic all boys Grammar School run by priests.

Also known by the name of Hell on Earth.
I went to a school where all the girls were groomed to be secretaries. I left school and became an office junior for a year which I hated and I am now really mad that I wasn't given much career guidance. I was lucky to have realised this so early on and left my job to go back into education.
And 13 years down the line, I am still being educated. I seem to just finish one course, then start another. I think I am addicted to learning.
My first school was amusing, the teachers didn't know how to handle us so they would make us run around the school playground in an effort to get us tired so they could teach us.... biggrin
The rest of my schooling was okay (apart from bullying, but don't most kids get that?)
My Uni days were fabulous....except I never did get why guys were lovely when sober but when drunk they thought it was funny and perfectly acceptable to p**s in the flower-beds in full view of everybody..... :shock:
My Uni days were fabulous....except I never did get why guys were lovely when sober but when drunk they thought it was funny and perfectly acceptable to p**s in the flower-beds in full view of everybody.....


Kinky Lizard at uni
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Kinky Lizard
Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm education where do i start.
Primary school was fun fun fun all the way for me.
Junior school was great too,i was always off doing sport of 1 sort or the other.
Secondary school,now thats where the problems it was an independent grammar school in Birmingham,it was very strange to i grew increasingly bored with it especially when i found out there was an all girls school down the after a promising start here i am,i think it was my lack of wanting to comply that undid me.
Onward and upward into the Army and to college and wow.I flew through cos i wanted to learn things that were relative to what i was doing.
Education is a touchy subject. Learning is close to my heart yet I hated school - a Maltese Catholic nursery school run by nuns, three junior schools and three comprehensives.
The quality of the education I received at each of these establishments was variable to say the least but I ended up with four O levels and three A levels. I didn't get a Maths qualification until after my first degree - which incidentally was in Art History. Then I did an
My experiences of education caused me to assess my daughter's very critically. She is getting the best education that money can buy - literally. And it's worth every penny.
As for the state of the English language in the kingdom today... don't get me started! Too late, I've begun! I've been a GCSE examiner and I wielded the right to add or subtract 5% of a student's marks for spelling, puncturation and grammar. Invariably I subtracted. Then I tutored a friend's daughter who, though reasonably bright, didn't care one way or the other. She blithely repeated to me that her English teacher said spelling and grammar didn't matter. Her parents had to scrape me off the ceiling.
In fact language is so important to me I became a proofreader. I will freely admit that 'textspeak', bad spelling and sentence structure which is purely attributable to laziness is absolute anathema to me. I wouldn't denigrate anyone for their poor writing skills if they were genuinely making an effort, but those that 'cannot be arsed' are at the bottom of the evolutionary chain in my opinion.
Rant done! Oooh, I do feel better now!
Sappho xxx
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I didn't get a Maths qualification until after my first degree

I tried doing my Maths O/L while at poly doing Eng. Lit., and never got even that O/L!
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She is getting the best education that money can buy - literally. And it's worth every penny.

Having worked with thoroughly/intensively/comprehensively educated people - I agree. They tend to be good all rounders: sound written and spoken English, historical knowledge, numerate, a good basis in modern languages, self confident etc. It sets them up for life.
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She blithely repeated to me that her English teacher said spelling and grammar didn't matter.

Well - dip me in chocolate and feed me to lesbians.
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As for the state of the English language in the kingdom today... don't get me started! Too late, I've begun! I've been a GCSE examiner and I wielded the right to add or subtract 5% of a student's marks for spelling, puncturation and grammar. Invariably I subtracted. Then I tutored a friend's daughter who, though reasonably bright, didn't care one way or the other. She blithely repeated to me that her English teacher said spelling and grammar didn't matter. Her parents had to scrape me off the ceiling.
In fact language is so important to me I became a proofreader. I will freely admit that 'textspeak', bad spelling and sentence structure which is purely attributable to laziness is absolute anathema to me. I wouldn't denigrate anyone for their poor writing skills if they were genuinely making an effort, but those that 'cannot be arsed' are at the bottom of the evolutionary chain in my opinion.
Rant done! Oooh, I do feel better now!
Sappho xxx

AN OPEN MESSAGE TO WILL: I'll fight a duel at dawn for the hand of this good lady.
Education, education ,education, well bloody tony should have thought about it alot longer.
I hated school, i think having a tough time at home, i felt i was alot older then i was, and in return could not handle the way the teachers would talk down to me. My attitude of " you aint got a f**king clue what i go through at home, then expect me to come here and give a shit about geography". Anyway i left at 13, those were the days you could get cash in hand jobs no questions asked. I went from one dead end job to another, shoving my middle finger up to society thinking i was provoing them wrong by getting by without a education.
Well now here i am , 34, putting myself through university at my own expense after realising that theres more to life than an income ,theres job satisfaction.
Well the one thing im miffed about is that i belive if you never had the chance to go to uni at 19 then you should be owed that later in life, tony , maggie you owe me my future and a bloody big student loan debt evil
Firstly, a note to aid translation from Australian to English: primary school is years 1 to 7 (ages 6 to 12). High school is years 8 to 12 (ages 13 to 17). School is (or was) compulsory until the end of year 10.
Being good at maths, I was put in a special program. We did years 8 to 10 in two years, with emphasis on maths and sciences. Our maths teacher was the best I have seen or heard of anywhere.
Unfortunately, they didn't think that while we were good at maths and science, we might not be so good at the humanities. English Literature was my downfall. The guidance people suggested that my analytical mind would be better off with that than the more creative English class. I failed miserably. I simply didn't understand what the class was about. (I have since learned. I just wasn't ready for it at the time).
Since Australian universities have a literacy requirement, I had to repeat year 12. This time I did English: clearly the right choice, as I topped the school in the first exam. That was the only class I did at school that year. The rest of my time was spent sitting in on lectures at university.
I passed English and went to study Engineering at university. By that point, I was back in line with most of the people of my age. But I'd been to most of the lectures already. I'd read the textbooks in the first week. I already knew most of the things that were interesting or useful, and was bored by the rest. I was learning more by not attending lectures or doing assignments. I didn't make it through second year.
But my hobbies had given me useful skills. I've had no trouble getting good and interesting jobs.
I'm not sorry that I went to university, as it did expose me to a lot of concepts that I wouldn't have discovered on my own. But I'm not sorry that I didn't stick with it and get a degree. I might one day, but it will be in some area completely unrelated to my working life.
You did ask.
Mmm - interesting thread.
My childhood experiences of living in an academic orientated household only added to the misery of secondary school!! Even though I passed the 11+ my school was in the process of going comphrensive and we were streamed by results in arithmetic. I can't do numbers, words are my thing. So, I was in the second lowest stream, bright and demotivated. Had a rotten time and came out with a handful of O grades (we are in Scotland now!!).
I then spent many a year working away happily but with a mind which was clamouring for education. Eventually, at the grand old age of 38 I enrolled on a part-time Humanities course at my local university, I loved it. Spent 5 long years trekking (across the road) to uni two evenings a week and, despite the death of my father just before my final submission, managed to gain a First. Fan-bloody-tas-tic!
Now I am slogging away at a research post-grad but spend my days working in the state secondary education system - the products of which are my primary motivation for gaining more knowledge and pushing my own particular intellectual boundaries further.
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I loved every minute of my 'schooldays'. I was blessed with inspirational teachers who took a poor kid with string round his short trousers and encouraged him to overcome his stammer. They read him wonderful tales like 'White Fang','Lorna Doone', 'Beau Geste' and 'Great Expectations'. They introduced him to poetry. They taught him that there was nothing wrong with being good at things. They gave the scruffy little bugger an awful lot: I'm so sad that I never had chance to thank most of them.
i eventually went to a mixed Grammar School with strict discipline and a thirst for excellence-especially in sport. I was-and am-proud of being part of it. I had always been the last one picked when teams were divided up at sport: heavy, slow, two left feet-everybody's laughing stock. Then one teacher looked at me and popped a rugby ball in my hands. I never looked back.
We were the Monty Python' generation, and the humour is memorable , even now. Humour was lauded as much as excellence in mathematics.
I was very, very lucky.
I left school at 16 for family reasons, to the horror of the staff that had given me so much. I regretted it for years, and, when I graduated, as a very 'mature student', I felt I had paid them back in some small way.
So, only happy memories for me-very happy indeed.
Education for me when little meant moving. I went to 3 infant and junior schools and 3 grammar and comprehensive schools. This resulted in me always having to make new friends and kids can be cruel when you are new. I remember a new junior school in Cambridge and my mates brother said to me "are you a snob". I was 10 and said "no" not even knowing what it meant but going home full of fear as to whether I had said the right thing. We moved from Cambridge to Southport and then Midalnds where didnt have a grammar school and went to a local comprehensive and I hated it. I left school with 2 o levels which was a fluke even though both my parents were academics. However, I soon realised work could be very boring. My inspiration to really move on was when I became pregnant with my first child and I decided that I needed real money to live. I started a degree and was broke at the end when I was again pregnant and decided to do a masters. I then realised that I needed to do PGCE to again do what I wanted. I started a phd a couple of years ago but never finished it as you really need to be motivated to do that. I have to say that many many of my friends did not follow my route and their experiences of the education of life is every bit as important as my quals and I am often in awe of their life knowledge. Education is personal and what I gained in my post school courses was great friends, confidence and the ability to choose what where and how I could work.
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AN OPEN MESSAGE TO WILL: I'll fight a duel at dawn for the hand of this good lady.
Oh good grief! rolleyes I thought we had got past this stage! Never mind dawn (sorry Dawn kiss), this sounds like a Martini duel. Anytime, any place, anywhere! duel .....and my sword still warm from earlier tonight too! evil
Since this thread is supposed to be about education, I might as well bore you with my meagre achievements. I have experienced most of the education spectrum. State, church and private so, in a way, I am quite well placed to comment.
I started at a private Prep school because I was left handed. It was the only school my parents could find that didn't offer to 'cure' me of what was variously described as a 'problem', 'affliction' or 'weakness' :shock: Bear in mind that was the 1960s not the 1860s!
At 7, having established my handedness (interestingly, left-handed for creative stuff but right handed for other practical pursuits ) I was then moved to a church primary school.
From there I passed the 11+ and was the very last year of intake to the local Grammar School (mixed - thankfully :twistedsmile. I had a fairly hard time here because I was good at music and drama and crap at football. By the age of 14, in the minds of the budding Sun readers (apologies to all you thoughtful Sun readers out there), this clearly meant that I was a poof! :shock: Several good kickings ensued! Although my contemporaries pointed out that the after school football training they attended was exclusively male, whereas in the Drama Club boys were outnumbered by girls two-to-one, they didn't seem to recognise the significance of this! :roll: Not only that, but at least half of the boys in the Drama Club actually WERE gay (and there is nothing wrong with that - they were and still are friends). This meant that the two of us who weren't got all the female attention! :twisted: STILL the numpties didn't see why we did it!
Then, at 14, half way through my O-levels, my family moved and I had to change school. This would have been a difficult time to move in any case, but I now ended up at an all-boys Public School! Being good at drama and music and crap at football was now a VERY serious problem. So much so that although I couldn't keep my music secret (the Grammar School had waxed lyrical about it to my new establishment) I kept my love of drama secret and never took part in a single production. This is my biggest regret as the school had a fine drama reputation and put on some spectacular Shakespearean productions which I deprived myself of. As soon as I left I joined the local drama group who, ironically, used the school as the venue for one production each year. The drama teacher was highly irritated to realise that I had passed through his hands unnoticed redface - but I digress.
I ended up with 11 O-levels and then took A-levels in Physics, Chemistry and Biology by the age of 17. I wanted a career in medicine but didn't get the grades. Unfortunately I had discovered alcohol, girls (again) and had started to play in bands (they were all somehow connected - booze got me access to bands; bands got me access to girls). So I ended up being able to outdrink all my colleagues, being a more than half-decent pianist and keyboard player - but with crap A-level grades. I turned down offers to do Genetics at University and became a musician. Perhaps my biggest mistake, but there you go.
On the whole I suppose I didn't do too bad but there is one indictment of the system. Apart from music I have two great passions - history and literature. My tendency to question things and a reluctance to see things as I was told I ought to see them resulted in me not being allowed to take my history O-level and failing my Eng-Lit 'O'-level, even though I had got an 'A' in Eng-Lang a year earlier! That must signify a problem somewhere! Conforming to standards that are too rigid can constrain rather than inform.
Anyway, I have bored you all enough for now. Time to get back to the duel!! :duel: - if any of you are still awake!
Mr Writer? Bring it on!!! :evil:
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Time to get back to the duel!!

Come on Sappho. While the boys are fighting, we can sneak off somewhere. They won't notice.
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Time to get back to the duel!!

Come on Sappho. While the boys are fighting, we can sneak off somewhere. They won't yes they bloody will !!! evil :evil:
Will...slap him with ya glove, drop it to the floor then... :kick:
School for me was almost a constant nightmare. I was horribly bullied. I met Mars at 15, and ended up leaving at 16 pregnant redface
So education for me has been put on the back boiler. I have returned to college and completed a couple of courses, much tougher when you have kids. Man Alive mentioned the time scale for getting a degree, I am feeling this too. I am hoping to get a Doctorate in Psychology, but having to start from the bottom means I wont qualify until I am 42/43. If I qualify at all. The subject interests me greatly, so I see no point in not trying to go all the way................
Story of my life wink
On the subject of text shortcuts, I agree that posts full of these are jarring. I tend to use a couple of shortcuts DH (Dear or Damn husband, depending on my mood lol ) and lol.
If this irritates anyone let me know and I will make more of an effort!
I, for one, am confident that there will come a time when it will Dr VenusnMars!!