I have just had to come to terms with my mum being diagosed with renal Cancer she has just had a Kidney removed. I am able to talk to my mum openly, We have discussed openly the cancer and death. She isnt afraid of these but is afraid of a long slow death.
This has given me time to think about euthanasa I could if it came to her suffering offer assistance out of love.
What do others feel about this delicate subject?
could you do it for the ones you love?
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Sex God
In my present situation I couldnt do it here because if I were jailed for it my children and husband would suffer but I have spoken about this with my Mum who also fears a painful drawn out death and I would be prepared to travel abroad with her where it is legal.
Sex God
No i dont think i could do it
Like fire said the risk of jail and being taken away from my son is detterant enough
Having said that if it was my son who was in great pain and suffering (at an older age)i dont know wether i would or wudnt
Like fire said the risk of jail and being taken away from my son is detterant enough
Having said that if it was my son who was in great pain and suffering (at an older age)i dont know wether i would or wudnt
Sex God
I have always said if I am destined for a slow painfull death or am in such a state that I become a burden to my family (after an accident or a massive stroke etc) then if there is any way it can be ended then do it....
Shireen has the same viewpoint as well....
Shireen has the same viewpoint as well....
Sex God
I certainly don't think the state should ever have control over euthanasia. I personally could not be a party to it either. In saying that i have not been in a situation that warrants that sort of decision making thank goodness, so I don't see both sides clearly enough. I Would oppose euthanasia in principal i think.
Sex God
I honestly don't know whether I would personally be able to assist any of my loved ones in a suicide, but I believe in the legalisation to allow voluntary euthanasia. I have a friend who campaigns for this, and convinced me a few years ago when I had some doubts.
Interesting and very informative website:
There are many misconceptions around about people with severe illnesses or disabilities being "forced" or "expected" to die rather than elect to receive life-support, but the bill (the Assisted Dying bill) which has been before Parliament and will come up again for debate deals entirely with VOLUNTARY euthanasia, with the people concerned making fully-informed choices.
Interesting and very informative website:
There are many misconceptions around about people with severe illnesses or disabilities being "forced" or "expected" to die rather than elect to receive life-support, but the bill (the Assisted Dying bill) which has been before Parliament and will come up again for debate deals entirely with VOLUNTARY euthanasia, with the people concerned making fully-informed choices.
From what I've seen of the Human Race, however desperate a situation, there always seems to be one thing in tact ......... Hope.
From wars, to third world starvation, to disease, to whatever, the human spirit seems to cling to Hope. One example I can think of now is the horrific clips of third world starvation, parents holding their children hours from death, still clinging to Hope.
How can you tell when Hope has disappeared?
I've had no experience of this thank heavens, but how do you tell?
Until anyone's in that desperate situation, then I'm not convinced that people have an inkling as to how strong Hope is. It's okay saying oooh I hope I win the lottery this week, or I hope it doesn't rain today etc. But when in a desperate situation, hope has surely got to be all consuming, something giving you strength.
Then with euthanasa, and asking a family member, or someone close to you to carry it out, then you're not just dealing with one persons Hope. Even if you've agreed to administer is and the patient has released their Hope, could you release yours enough to help end a life?
Logic is easy for me, I would say that in a no win situation then I would help someone, and I would like the same.
But in reality, with all consuming Hope running through my very core, I could not do it, and I don't think I could ask for it. Hope, real Hope is the one emotion that only comes out in desperate situations, and because it's not a common emotion, it must be the most intense feeling there is.
From wars, to third world starvation, to disease, to whatever, the human spirit seems to cling to Hope. One example I can think of now is the horrific clips of third world starvation, parents holding their children hours from death, still clinging to Hope.
How can you tell when Hope has disappeared?
I've had no experience of this thank heavens, but how do you tell?Until anyone's in that desperate situation, then I'm not convinced that people have an inkling as to how strong Hope is. It's okay saying oooh I hope I win the lottery this week, or I hope it doesn't rain today etc. But when in a desperate situation, hope has surely got to be all consuming, something giving you strength.
Then with euthanasa, and asking a family member, or someone close to you to carry it out, then you're not just dealing with one persons Hope. Even if you've agreed to administer is and the patient has released their Hope, could you release yours enough to help end a life?
Logic is easy for me, I would say that in a no win situation then I would help someone, and I would like the same.
But in reality, with all consuming Hope running through my very core, I could not do it, and I don't think I could ask for it. Hope, real Hope is the one emotion that only comes out in desperate situations, and because it's not a common emotion, it must be the most intense feeling there is.
God almighty this is a sensitive one. OK before I write any more I'd like to say that this is entirely my own feelings, and doesn't relate in any way to your situation. In fact (as with the abortion thread the other week) I feel that it's something that I can only really consider at an individual level - everyone's circumstances are totally different. I guess considering what the people involved feel is the only way of looking at it.
My mum - quite Christian but in her own way, and a very determined, bloody-minded person - said: "Don't you dare switch me off. Ever." I think that the idea of giving up is so alien to her that she'd want to fight on until the very end. I think for me, unless we have a different conversation at some point, I wouldn't feel able to call time on her fight.
My dad - an atheist who watched his dad die slowly of some kind of degenerative disease that took his mind away first (not sure exactly what) has always been very clear that if the situation comes up, he is in favour of euthanasia. Since he has always been very clear about this I'd feel more able to respect his wishes, although it would obviously still be horrible.
For me - I never want to end up as a piece of meat, unable to move or talk or think or refrain from shitting. I've worked in a nursing home and I don't want to end up in one myself - not that I saw anything horrific, I just don't want ever to be in that state. But I don't want anyone to have to pull the plug either - if I have the opportunity, once the game is pretty much up, I'd like to take up going for walks that are too long. I'll try and shape my life so that I live near some hills, so that I can conveniently die of hypothermia watching the sun set one evening. I think that would be far better for my loved ones than having to watch me degenerate until there's nothing left of the person I was.
Ummmmm... I realise I have strayed somewhat. Euthanasia - in principle I'm fine with it, as long as it's pretty clearly what the person would have wanted. In practice, I don't know if I'd actually be able to authorise the death of my parents or my sister. I guess you can never know until you're in the situation. Like I said at the top. I think these sort of things are really really individual decisions and very few people outside of the immediate situation have a right to have a say. For that reason I think it should be legal, but with safeguards and delays built-in (somehow).
Minx and Firelizard (and anyone else in this situation), my heart goes out to you and I hope you can find a way to deal with it that works for you.
My mum - quite Christian but in her own way, and a very determined, bloody-minded person - said: "Don't you dare switch me off. Ever." I think that the idea of giving up is so alien to her that she'd want to fight on until the very end. I think for me, unless we have a different conversation at some point, I wouldn't feel able to call time on her fight.
My dad - an atheist who watched his dad die slowly of some kind of degenerative disease that took his mind away first (not sure exactly what) has always been very clear that if the situation comes up, he is in favour of euthanasia. Since he has always been very clear about this I'd feel more able to respect his wishes, although it would obviously still be horrible.
For me - I never want to end up as a piece of meat, unable to move or talk or think or refrain from shitting. I've worked in a nursing home and I don't want to end up in one myself - not that I saw anything horrific, I just don't want ever to be in that state. But I don't want anyone to have to pull the plug either - if I have the opportunity, once the game is pretty much up, I'd like to take up going for walks that are too long. I'll try and shape my life so that I live near some hills, so that I can conveniently die of hypothermia watching the sun set one evening. I think that would be far better for my loved ones than having to watch me degenerate until there's nothing left of the person I was.
Ummmmm... I realise I have strayed somewhat. Euthanasia - in principle I'm fine with it, as long as it's pretty clearly what the person would have wanted. In practice, I don't know if I'd actually be able to authorise the death of my parents or my sister. I guess you can never know until you're in the situation. Like I said at the top. I think these sort of things are really really individual decisions and very few people outside of the immediate situation have a right to have a say. For that reason I think it should be legal, but with safeguards and delays built-in (somehow).
Minx and Firelizard (and anyone else in this situation), my heart goes out to you and I hope you can find a way to deal with it that works for you.
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From what I've seen of the Human Race, however desperate a situation, there always seems to be one thing in tact ......... Hope.
I agree with this as well though... it's a hard one. I think I'm going to write something else about this, but I have to go fry some eggs now. And then eat them, yum.
Sex God
Some of that Missy if i knew how i'd have made into a poster and put on our kitchen wall. I agree with the sentiment - hope springs eternal I guess :thumbup:
Sex God
Minx and Firelizard (and anyone else in this situation), my heart goes out to you and I hope you can find a way to deal with it that works for you.
Tomu I think I might have mis-lead you a little. Although I have spoken to my Mum about this many times, she is not in fact terminally ill at the moment (that I know of). Thank you though for your kind words xxxx
Tomu I think I might have mis-lead you a little. Although I have spoken to my Mum about this many times, she is not in fact terminally ill at the moment (that I know of). Thank you though for your kind words xxxx
Master of Sex
i think we all have the absolute right to decide when we have had by means of a living will should be able to define the conditions where you would expect your wishes carried out should you be physically unable to do it `s a disgrace that sick people have to travel abroad to die with some dignity.
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God almighty this is a sensitive one. OK before I write any more I'd like to say that this is entirely my own feelings, and doesn't relate in any way to your situation. In fact (as with the abortion thread the other week) I feel that it's something that I can only really consider at an individual level - everyone's circumstances are totally different. I guess considering what the people involved feel is the only way of looking at it.
My mum - quite Christian but in her own way, and a very determined, bloody-minded person - said: "Don't you dare switch me off. Ever." I think that the idea of giving up is so alien to her that she'd want to fight on until the very end. I think for me, unless we have a different conversation at some point, I wouldn't feel able to call time on her fight.
My dad - an atheist who watched his dad die slowly of some kind of degenerative disease that took his mind away first (not sure exactly what) has always been very clear that if the situation comes up, he is in favour of euthanasia. Since he has always been very clear about this I'd feel more able to respect his wishes, although it would obviously still be horrible.
For me - I never want to end up as a piece of meat, unable to move or talk or think or refrain from shitting. I've worked in a nursing home and I don't want to end up in one myself - not that I saw anything horrific, I just don't want ever to be in that state. But I don't want anyone to have to pull the plug either - if I have the opportunity, once the game is pretty much up, I'd like to take up going for walks that are too long. I'll try and shape my life so that I live near some hills, so that I can conveniently die of hypothermia watching the sun set one evening. I think that would be far better for my loved ones than having to watch me degenerate until there's nothing left of the person I was.
Ummmmm... I realise I have strayed somewhat. Euthanasia - in principle I'm fine with it, as long as it's pretty clearly what the person would have wanted. In practice, I don't know if I'd actually be able to authorise the death of my parents or my sister. I guess you can never know until you're in the situation. Like I said at the top. I think these sort of things are really really individual decisions and very few people outside of the immediate situation have a right to have a say. For that reason I think it should be legal, but with safeguards and delays built-in (somehow).
Minx and Firelizard (and anyone else in this situation), my heart goes out to you and I hope you can find a way to deal with it that works for you.
What a superb post. :thumbup:
I am all for it too, however it needs to be very, very strictly controlled (visions of a money-grubbing family carting rich Aunt Gertrude off "on a day trip" spring to mind).
However "Great" Britain is so morally and philosophically screwed up I just can't see it getting onto the statute books - we show more compassion to our animals than we do to our elderly who thanks to the advances in medical science now enjoy a longer life expectancy but are then sometimes left to rot due to a welfare state support system that has not kept up. I am a firm believer in living wills that would allow the relatives of those who have previously, when able to, expressed a desire for their life to be ended.
We do have family experience involving a relative who was a lifelong "battler" but who in the end asked to die with dignity, we and "the system" just couldn't fulfill that request. We knew Nan was going to die, so did the doctors and to watch her drawn-out death made us feel terrible.
As I said, we do more for our pets than we do for the wishes of those who want to end their life.
Just to show how behind this country is when compared to our European neighbours, this was on the BBC site the other day. It makes Britain look positively medieval, considering the NICE quango won't even give medication to those in England who suffer from the early stages of Alzheimers. But that's a debate for another day.
However "Great" Britain is so morally and philosophically screwed up I just can't see it getting onto the statute books - we show more compassion to our animals than we do to our elderly who thanks to the advances in medical science now enjoy a longer life expectancy but are then sometimes left to rot due to a welfare state support system that has not kept up. I am a firm believer in living wills that would allow the relatives of those who have previously, when able to, expressed a desire for their life to be ended.
We do have family experience involving a relative who was a lifelong "battler" but who in the end asked to die with dignity, we and "the system" just couldn't fulfill that request. We knew Nan was going to die, so did the doctors and to watch her drawn-out death made us feel terrible.
As I said, we do more for our pets than we do for the wishes of those who want to end their life.
Just to show how behind this country is when compared to our European neighbours, this was on the BBC site the other day. It makes Britain look positively medieval, considering the NICE quango won't even give medication to those in England who suffer from the early stages of Alzheimers. But that's a debate for another day.
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Just to show how behind this country is when compared to our European neighbours, this was on the BBC site the other day. It makes Britain look positively medieval, considering the NICE quango won't even give medication to those in England who suffer from the early stages of Alzheimers. But that's a debate for another day.
But they're just practising euthenasia by proxy.
It would mean large legislative change, for one. Not least to the law governing disposal of the property of the deceased. At the moment if you kill-off auntie you are not allowed to benefit from said event. Then there are the required procedures to ensure that auntie doesn't MIND being killed-off.
Finally, you are being unecessarily mean to NICE. It is just another arm of government that ensures that as long as we can work, they will make sure we can. When we cannot, whether through age or illness, they then ensure that we cost as little as possible, or have as short a remaining life as possible.
Master of Sex
My dad is terminally ill with prostate, bone and lung cancer. I've had to watch this big, strong man wither down from 16st to under 10st ... it's been an emotionally agonising journey.
Another poster talked of hope ... in my dad's case there is none but he still holds onto something that is the fundemental difference between living and merely existing - the WILL to live.
It never ceases to amaze me how he keeps fighting on; he just bought himself a hand-held electronic note-book and a DS lite to keep him occupied as he's too weak and in too much pain to use his laptop.
In his case, he's now too sick and weak to travel abroad and if he'd gone when he was still fit enough, he'd have missed out on many things such as the birth of his first great-grandson and numerous loving visits from his family.
I'm not against euthenasia - but I couldn't assist in the suicide of a relative myself.
Another poster talked of hope ... in my dad's case there is none but he still holds onto something that is the fundemental difference between living and merely existing - the WILL to live.
It never ceases to amaze me how he keeps fighting on; he just bought himself a hand-held electronic note-book and a DS lite to keep him occupied as he's too weak and in too much pain to use his laptop.
In his case, he's now too sick and weak to travel abroad and if he'd gone when he was still fit enough, he'd have missed out on many things such as the birth of his first great-grandson and numerous loving visits from his family.
I'm not against euthenasia - but I couldn't assist in the suicide of a relative myself.
Sex God
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My dad is terminally ill with prostate, bone and lung cancer. I've had to watch this big, strong man wither down from 16st to under 10st ... it's been an emotionally agonising journey.
Another poster talked of hope ... in my dad's case there is none but he still holds onto something that is the fundemental difference between living and merely existing - the WILL to live.
It never ceases to amaze me how he keeps fighting on; he just bought himself a hand-held electronic note-book and a DS lite to keep him occupied as he's too weak and in too much pain to use his laptop.
In his case, he's now too sick and weak to travel abroad and if he'd gone when he was still fit enough, he'd have missed out on many things such as the birth of his first great-grandson and numerous loving visits from his family.
I'm not against euthenasia - but I couldn't assist in the suicide of a relative myself.
Wow :shock:
My heart goes out to you .......
Sex God
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Just to show how behind this country is when compared to our European neighbours, this was on the BBC site the other day. It makes Britain look positively medieval, considering the NICE quango won't even give medication to those in England who suffer from the early stages of Alzheimers. But that's a debate for another day.
But they're just practising euthenasia by proxy.
It would mean large legislative change, for one. Not least to the law governing disposal of the property of the deceased. At the moment if you kill-off auntie you are not allowed to benefit from said event. Then there are the required procedures to ensure that auntie doesn't MIND being killed-off.
Finally, you are being unecessarily mean to NICE. It is just another arm of government that ensures that as long as we can work, they will make sure we can. When we cannot, whether through age or illness, they then ensure that we cost as little as possible, or have as short a remaining life as possible.
Don't turn another one political!
I wouldn't like to think that anyone I loved, was destined for a slow and painful death.
Don't know if I could administer the fatal dose or whatever, though.
Sex God
I am of the opinion that voluntary euthanasia should be available to those who desire it to the alternative.
There should be safeguards, counseling, a time delay to reconsider. It should be carried out, or prepared for by someone, not a relative, not going to gain by the death and not by doctors.
Relatives sometimes see short term pain and may be to eager to help a loved one, so relatives should not help.
Those who are going to gain from the act could be question as to why they did it.
Doctors are duty bound to 'do no harm'. Euthanasia, is at best the best of a poor choice. The doctors and nurses should remain dedicated to protecting life and health.
It needs someone outside, to listen council and go away. Then someone else to return listen and council. Then only after a lapse of time should a government agency help the individual. I say a government agency because that gives the best protection to an unwilling patient. All should be done to discourage, but when the individual has decided, it is their choice.
There should be safeguards, counseling, a time delay to reconsider. It should be carried out, or prepared for by someone, not a relative, not going to gain by the death and not by doctors.
Relatives sometimes see short term pain and may be to eager to help a loved one, so relatives should not help.
Those who are going to gain from the act could be question as to why they did it.
Doctors are duty bound to 'do no harm'. Euthanasia, is at best the best of a poor choice. The doctors and nurses should remain dedicated to protecting life and health.
It needs someone outside, to listen council and go away. Then someone else to return listen and council. Then only after a lapse of time should a government agency help the individual. I say a government agency because that gives the best protection to an unwilling patient. All should be done to discourage, but when the individual has decided, it is their choice.
Sex God
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I've promised Mr W that if he should ever be in a vegetative state, I'd put an end to it for him. He's promised the same to me.
The impact upon the children would be the only consideration. Could I do it when the time came? Yes. If it was the kindest thing to do, absolutely.
Thats pretty much what Shireen and I have said :thumbup:
Sex God
Now you are talking about planning for the future. Would it not be safer to have it all set out on a recording, 'This is my wish...'
Then when/if the time came there would be no/less recriminations. It would be clearly seen as an act honouring the individual?
Then when/if the time came there would be no/less recriminations. It would be clearly seen as an act honouring the individual?
I agree with the concept and would support someone's right to do it.
I would not do it for anyone. Whether I loved them or not. I personally think that life is not mine to take. I am with Missy on the 'hope' business to a point I suppose.
I dread to think how it would be legislated for.
As for it being legal in other countries. I am sure that isn't actually strictly true. I believe that it has been what we would term decriminalised. What is in place is ' Doctor Assisted Suicide' this isn't actually legal. But, it is decriminalised and as such the Doctor in the dock may get sympathy and a warning from the legal system. The Doctor will, in effect, be asking for understanding from the court. That is, legally, a world away from 'Legal Euthanasia'.
I would not do it for anyone. Whether I loved them or not. I personally think that life is not mine to take. I am with Missy on the 'hope' business to a point I suppose.
I dread to think how it would be legislated for.
As for it being legal in other countries. I am sure that isn't actually strictly true. I believe that it has been what we would term decriminalised. What is in place is ' Doctor Assisted Suicide' this isn't actually legal. But, it is decriminalised and as such the Doctor in the dock may get sympathy and a warning from the legal system. The Doctor will, in effect, be asking for understanding from the court. That is, legally, a world away from 'Legal Euthanasia'.
Master of Sex
Problem is, it's easy to say these things when you're fit and healthy and can only imagine how you'd feel. My dad always used to say the same thing himself. Now if, when he was sleeping one day, I (out of kindness) assisted his passing because of what he said a couple of decades ago, would I really be carrying out his wishes? He is clearly fighting to have every single day alloted to him and what he 'thought' he'd want 20 years ago is evidently not what he wants now.
I don't think falling back on a recording made when a person was in a different state of mind would cut it.
I agree with the poster who said it shouldn't be down to the relatives (too emotionally involved) or doctors (too much to ask of people sworn to preserve life) but to a separate body with plenty of safeguards in place to protect individuals and their rights.
I don't think falling back on a recording made when a person was in a different state of mind would cut it.
I agree with the poster who said it shouldn't be down to the relatives (too emotionally involved) or doctors (too much to ask of people sworn to preserve life) but to a separate body with plenty of safeguards in place to protect individuals and their rights.
I nurse terminal patients who have cancer, MND, COAP and other life-limiting illnesses. I've seen a lot of death over the past 3 years and while most are very peaceful and painfree at the end, it's still heartwreching for the families to have to see their loved ones go through so much.
I saw my own Dad go from a healthy man to totally dependent on his nurses all within a very short 2 years until we lost him from cancer. The agony he endured with such dignity over that time was heartbreaking and although he never once complained, we could see how utterly helpless he felt.
I've always been in the Pro-euthanasia camp but only with strict regulation and I would have no problem with assisting a loved one if that was their wish and it was legalised.
I see so many patients who are unable to even speak let alone feed or wash themselves but still have full brain function. That, for me, would be a living hell and I have always stated that if I were to be diagnosed with a disease that would destroy my body before my mind then please, end it for me as I would hate to have my loved ones watch me go through it.
The case of Diane Pretty years ago springs to mind.
She had her last wishes refused by the Powers That Be and died in a way she feared the most. Her courage and conviction plus that of her loving husband is a lesson to us all.
At the end of the day, it shouldn't be left to relatives or doctors to make that decision but the patient themselves.
I wouldn't see it as my dying wish but as my living one
I saw my own Dad go from a healthy man to totally dependent on his nurses all within a very short 2 years until we lost him from cancer. The agony he endured with such dignity over that time was heartbreaking and although he never once complained, we could see how utterly helpless he felt.
I've always been in the Pro-euthanasia camp but only with strict regulation and I would have no problem with assisting a loved one if that was their wish and it was legalised.
I see so many patients who are unable to even speak let alone feed or wash themselves but still have full brain function. That, for me, would be a living hell and I have always stated that if I were to be diagnosed with a disease that would destroy my body before my mind then please, end it for me as I would hate to have my loved ones watch me go through it.
The case of Diane Pretty years ago springs to mind.
She had her last wishes refused by the Powers That Be and died in a way she feared the most. Her courage and conviction plus that of her loving husband is a lesson to us all.
At the end of the day, it shouldn't be left to relatives or doctors to make that decision but the patient themselves.
I wouldn't see it as my dying wish but as my living one
Sex God
If we do not own our own lives we own nothing,if we do own our life then it's ours to give away whenever we choose.
i have sadely experienced a step mum who died from MN and then 8 months later my dad who died of cancer.
both were under 55.
i have experienced friends and family who have died from mental illness, now your probally thinking who can you die from that, well they took their own lives, as in their opinion they had a life long and turned out terminal illness of mental ill health.
i would never have assisted them, and i could never have assisted my s mum or dad.
i think the desision some families face re organ donation can be a hard one, and thats when the body is considered dead and the proir wishes of the person were made.
MN and cancer are both horrible illnesses and neither of my parents ever said they would wish to end it all, cuse what day is the right day??
tomorrow, then tomorrow comes with a new dawn and the smile of a grandchild?
they had excellent care and any suffering was limited and was out weighed with the small gifts of time they had with loved ones.
on a practical level no insurance would pay out, youd be convicted of their murder and youd have to live with it forever.
im never going to say to mine " gezz if i ever get like that finsh me off" i think it would be a unfair burden on my family and id fear they might actually do it lol
these are all my thoughts based on my experiences.
ive recently been ill and understand how it can drag you down, but with the right medical interventions and pain killers you get through to a new day.
Hope faith and love are strong bonds in my family and i am thankfully thats good and bad i have them there to go through life with me.
xxxx fem xxx
both were under 55.
i have experienced friends and family who have died from mental illness, now your probally thinking who can you die from that, well they took their own lives, as in their opinion they had a life long and turned out terminal illness of mental ill health.
i would never have assisted them, and i could never have assisted my s mum or dad.
i think the desision some families face re organ donation can be a hard one, and thats when the body is considered dead and the proir wishes of the person were made.
MN and cancer are both horrible illnesses and neither of my parents ever said they would wish to end it all, cuse what day is the right day??
tomorrow, then tomorrow comes with a new dawn and the smile of a grandchild?
they had excellent care and any suffering was limited and was out weighed with the small gifts of time they had with loved ones.
on a practical level no insurance would pay out, youd be convicted of their murder and youd have to live with it forever.
im never going to say to mine " gezz if i ever get like that finsh me off" i think it would be a unfair burden on my family and id fear they might actually do it lol
these are all my thoughts based on my experiences.
ive recently been ill and understand how it can drag you down, but with the right medical interventions and pain killers you get through to a new day.
Hope faith and love are strong bonds in my family and i am thankfully thats good and bad i have them there to go through life with me.
xxxx fem xxx
Sex God
I can see why people would think that Voluntary Euthanasia, assisted suicide, or any other variation on the theme is valid , I still think that life is sacred and where theres life theres hope re:- Missy's post, However hard or cruel it may seem to let someone carry on suffering when to all concerned it would be better if they were to quietly and painlessly pass away with 'help' that help holds so much responsibility.
Once we allocate responsibility for anothers life then are we not starting a precedent? If its not allowed its not allowed. We have a clear distinction. If then we say "allowed in extreme circumstances" then that changes the dynamics. Whose to say in a few years that it could be reasoned that "we allow assisted death for such and such. Why not this too" and so on. A brave new world?
Another consideration would be that the person who is possibly seeking death maybe doing it 'for' the benefit of others! not a nice idea but i can see it being a very plausible scenario in fact I think I've been in a situation maybe not a million miles from it.
If it was down to a free vote I would vote against allowing it though i can see the pain and anguish of those in the predicament. I am not god or nature I'm just another fallible human who can make fallible mistakes. To be in charge of a life/death is a responsibility I would shy away from to the last.
Saw your post fem, after entering mine. I think that says a lot succinctly, really well put and i'm in total agreement with you, great post on a hard issue .
Once we allocate responsibility for anothers life then are we not starting a precedent? If its not allowed its not allowed. We have a clear distinction. If then we say "allowed in extreme circumstances" then that changes the dynamics. Whose to say in a few years that it could be reasoned that "we allow assisted death for such and such. Why not this too" and so on. A brave new world?
Another consideration would be that the person who is possibly seeking death maybe doing it 'for' the benefit of others! not a nice idea but i can see it being a very plausible scenario in fact I think I've been in a situation maybe not a million miles from it.
If it was down to a free vote I would vote against allowing it though i can see the pain and anguish of those in the predicament. I am not god or nature I'm just another fallible human who can make fallible mistakes. To be in charge of a life/death is a responsibility I would shy away from to the last.
Saw your post fem, after entering mine. I think that says a lot succinctly, really well put and i'm in total agreement with you, great post on a hard issue .
