We have acquired a house to have fun in from a friend who is going abroad,possibly for ever. He has let us rent the place till xmass quite cheap so that we can 'play'. But the place is a pig sty( his words not ours) and we will need to tidy it up a bit. Of course we are liable for gas/electric/rates/ council tax and rent. This is just so we can invite people back for fun(its getting a cold out there for dogging!)and it has a nice big drive where we can put a van to fix up for next years fun. All of that isn't cheap. So is it fair of us to ask for a voluntary contribution towards costs from the people who avail them selves of moniques pussy?(and other bits) John. P.s anyone got a cheep van in the N.E region lol.
If you are not going to be living there your 'expenses' outside of the rent you agreed with your friend should be minimal, why would you be paying council tax?? While I usually contribute to hotel costs, personally I would feel uneasy with being asked to pay towards what effectively appears to be a workshop / carpark / second home for your fun. Its your call, if you are honest from the off about the cost involved I dont see a problem with you asking. How about giving them the fuck of their lives and then rattling a tips jar on the way out :lol2:
"You would be, in effect, charging for sexual services and as such, would not be able to advertise for this on this site" Have no intention of doing I appreciate your position and comment I fail to see where I was suggesting I would do that?after all, as verified by the next poster, people do contribute towards costs etc. "why would you be paying council tax?" As we have a tenancy agreement making us libel for have to pay council tax on empty property as well. "While I usually contribute to hotel costs," would that be considered "charging for sexual services" And how does one suggest on this site that a contribution towards hotel costs would be appreciated without it looking like your "charging for sexual services" not looking for an argument, lol just informed debate. if the house option proves to be not to be practical, we will just go to plan 'B' E.G. hotels.
You may or may not be aware of what you could get into. Once word gets about that Monique will do sex for a voluntary contribution, you may be inundated with a variety of blokes who see it as a cheap alternative to their usual brothel. The coming and going on the site of such blokes could at times be unmanageable. And very soon you will have the Wild West all over your friends property. not clever unless you really know what you are doing. and to be honest it doesn't sound like you have thought this through yet.
Jeez, you got the run of the place and you want others to pay to clean your mates pigsty up? Clean it up yourselves, at your expesnse and enjoy any fun that might come along but thats it. j Actual I said WE would clean it up. your reply came across as rather abrupt and rude, was that your intention?
Quote by duncanlondon You may or may not be aware of what you could get into. Once word gets about that Monique will do sex for a voluntary contribution, you may be inundated with a variety of blokes who see it as a cheap alternative to their usual brothel. The coming and going on the site of such blokes could at times be unmanageable. And very soon you will have the Wild West all over your friends property. not clever unless you really know what you are doing. and to be honest it doesn't sound like you have thought this through yet.
That a very fair point, and nicely put thank you. you are right, we have not given it any serious thought, it was just a vague question related to people contributing towards costs,etc. But given the attitude of the other posters, I think we will just avoid the forum from now on.
Quote by Andy_Jules Jeez, you got the run of the place and you want others to pay to clean your mates pigsty up? Clean it up yourselves, at your expesnse and enjoy any fun that might come along but thats it. j Actual I said WE would clean it up. your reply came across as rather abrupt and rude, was that your intention?
Yeah you said you would clean it up but to help things along would maybe tout the idea of asking for contributions to those availing themselves of your woman's muff. I read that as you cleaning your mates pad up and any expenses you were to incur maybe offset by asking for contributions from those visiting ....I think Mal had the right idea, what you were asking for was tantamount to prostitution...dress it up how you like but that's how it looks j ahh this one i have to reply to lol. So is it postulation to pay entry to a swinging club with the expectations of sex? As for this site advertising sex for cash, if you look carefully you will see people advertising parties requiring contributions, one even offers 50% off membership,ON THIS SITE. Ignoring my original post for the moment and the fact there was at least 2 full stops between the pig sty comments and the contribution question. where do you draw the line? contribution?, membership fee?, or outright soliciting?
You can spend all day arguing about the technicalities and comparing it with other activities where people pay the owners for entry, they dont pay the same people they are fucking in swinging clubs!!. I think you can see from the replies what you are proposing doesnt feel right to the majority here - you asked for opinions and you got them. Advertise enough and you will get guys who will jump at the chance, but are they going to be the right kind of guys?
Quote by moniquejohn We have acquired a house to have fun in from a friend who is going abroad,possibly for ever. He has let us rent the place till xmass quite cheap so that we can 'play'. But the place is a pig sty( his words not ours) and we will need to tidy it up a bit. Of course we are liable for gas/electric/rates/ council tax and rent. This is just so we can invite people back for fun(its getting a cold out there for dogging!)and it has a nice big drive where we can put a van to fix up for next years fun. All of that isn't cheap. So is it fair of us to ask for a voluntary contribution towards costs from the people who avail them selves of moniques pussy?(and other bits) John. P.s anyone got a cheep van in the N.E region lol.
No different to most people who play at home, but i'd never dream of asking someone to leave cash by the door as they leave - that would make me a hooker Plus as you say you have the rent quite cheap then surely the advantage of having somewhere private to play outweighs the annoyance of extra bills. So no i dont think it would be "fair" to ask for contributions for ya wifes pussy altho i'm sure you'd probably find plenty of takers, but most people in that case wouldn't see it as swinging but prostitution.
Quote by Andy_Jules Paying to enter a swingers club is an entry fee to a private members club, sex is between consenting adults and not relevant to your current post. However, you were asking for payment on those wishing to mess with Moniques puss as a contribution towards money you laid out elsewhere. Payment such as that 'could' be seen as paying for sexual services. Wiggle as much as you like but it was you that typed it. Maybe next time you'll think of putting it differently. j
ok how about i put it like this.(note, not clubs,their private houses..) "It's time again for another great party.....guys £30 couples £20 single ladies £10" or "Private house party........normal fee £10" and I didn't ask for cash for sex, I asked if it would be fair to ask for a "voluntary contribution towards costs"..I think I put it perfectly.
No different to most people who play at home, but i'd never dream of asking someone to leave cash by the door as they leave - that would make me a hooker Plus as you say you have the rent quite cheap then surely the advantage of having somewhere private to play outweighs the annoyance of extra bills. So no i dont think it would be "fair" to ask for contributions for ya wifes pussy altho i'm sure you'd probably find plenty of takers, but most people in that case wouldn't see it as swinging but prostitution. this isn't our home, in fact its cheaper than a hotel. Ok quite cheap means 300 to 400 a the messages im getting people would rather contribute to a hotel, ok that fine, but the same if we go to a hotel once week it will portability cost more. It would seem people would rather contribute to a hotel at more cost than a more economical private house/house party. ok so the house is ruled out..I'll go with the MAJORITY expressed here and drop the idea. so next question. So do you think its fair to ask for voluntary contribution towards costs of a hotel??
What l feel everyone has failed to see is that there is an opportunity for some carefully selected guys to come to a safe house, in the warm. We choose the guys. To have some fun with me. In order for this to happen there are expenses that need to be covered, just as in a hotel room or swinging club. We have our own home it was just an opportunity that was offered,It's no loss to us, we have plenty of offers to go to houses. We just wanted to share some very kinky sex with some very kinky guys. If some of you choose to call it prostitution and condemn us for simply asking a question, not demanding or advertising, fair enough. Jog on. Just remember your partner/wife the next time one of you married or attached guys are busy shagging someones wife. Or even the local prostitute! (this comment was monique putting her penny's worth in, not me , she did put it rather well.)
Quote by moniquejohn What l feel everyone has failed to see is that there is an opportunity for some carefully selected guys to come to a safe house, in the warm. We choose the guys. To have some fun with me. In order for this to happen there are expenses that need to be covered, just as in a hotel room or swinging club. We have our own home it was just an opportunity that was offered,It's no loss to us, we have plenty of offers to go to houses. We just wanted to share some very kinky sex with some very kinky guys. If some of you choose to call it prostitution and condemn us for simply asking a question, not demanding or advertising, fair enough. Jog on. Just remember your partner/wife the next time one of you married or attached guys are busy shagging someones wife. Or even the local prostitute!
So basically you werent looking for genuine opinions, you wanted us to say hell yeah go for it and got annoyed when we didnt You say you want to share some kinky sex etc etc but apparently you also wanted those providing that kinky sex to help cover your costs. Ever thought that maybe those guys can also get it for free with women on here who are genuine swingers and do it for the sex and the fun not the cash. As for your last comment about remembering partner or wife next time - sour grapes and i'm walking away :doh:
So basically you werent looking for genuine opinions, you wanted us to say hell yeah go for it and got annoyed when we didnt You say you want to share some kinky sex etc etc but apparently you also wanted those providing that kinky sex to help cover your costs. Ever thought that maybe those guys can also get it for free with women on here who are genuine swingers and do it for the sex and the fun not the cash. As for your last comment about remembering partner or wife next time - sour grapes and i'm walking away :doh: I suspect monique was objecting to the tone of the posts, not the just the content. and you just implied we are not genuine and that we are doing it for cash. Neither of us said that. so yea I can see why shes pizzed 't you? so we have gone from asking a question,to being not genuine and just doing it for sex..
So have a look in the Commercial forum and get an advert like those ones and choose your price. its no good trying to sit in the middle and ask for charity.
Check out our comments box and read what happened to xxxxxxxxx, his words, not ours! Ask him if we charged him. You really should be careful with your accusations. We are one of the most genuine, respectful, decent couples on here. Clearly some of you are just incapable of answering a genuine question without automatically going into insult mode. Try reading your answers before sending them, and if you don't understand a word, look it up! Monique xxx
Quote by duncanlondon So have a look in the Commercial forum and get an advert like those ones and choose your price. its no good trying to sit in the middle and ask for charity.
commercial forum?? are you saying the add for events on the left hand side under "entertainment" are paid for commercial adds?? that's where my quotes come from. I just went to that section and went into the process of putting an add in, at no point did it say anything about being a commercial section.
Quote by moniquejohn Check out our comments box and read what happened to Cannyman2009, his words, not ours! Ask him if we charged him. You really should be careful with your accusations. We are one of the most genuine, respectful, decent couples on here.
I think that the concept is similar to that of sharing costs at a hotel. This is in theory but the problem will boil down to who is genuinely doing this and who is setting up a business and advertising it as a swinging event. I believe it would be too hard to prove which one is genuine and which one is doing it for profit. I suspect that admin would not like copy-cat style posts springing up if it set a precedent by allowing this type of advert in lets meet up but may allow it in the commercial section if it was a party event. The difference between this post and charging house parties is that the house party is charging and making their intentions known that it is a commercial event by advertising in the Commercial section. This tells those that reply that it is a "for profit" event. Dave_Notts
Quote by Bluefish2009 I think it sounds unusual to us, but provided you are up front with people they have a choice to say yes or no
To quote from another post I just made.. "funny if you think about it, the majority thinks its wrong to contribute towards the cost of swinging in that situation, but right that we should have to shoulder the cost totally alone..eg we have to pay for the sex but they wont..??" Some people seem to be under the impression we wanted to make a profit, personally I wonder if they even read our OP right. as far as I'm concerned, they can say no and still join in, I DID say voluntary contribution lol..you can't make a profit on a contribution..Look the word contribution up !! We are willing to make an finical outlay to make people comfortable and have fun, we ask peoples opinions on the idea of a voluntary contribution to make it easier, and the next thing we know, were apparently trying to make a profit, not genuine and being told to go advertise in the commercial section lol..but perhaps I just read it all wrong lol
Quote by moniquejohn so we have gone from asking a question,to being not genuine and just doing it for sex..
what a nice forum.
:welcome: Stick around for a bit - you will get the way it works, it wasnt so much an attack on you as peoples honest opinions put quite bluntly - its hard to judge tone on a forum ;) Once the hole gets deep enough you wont dig yourself back out - just accept these comments are not personal attacks - no one here knows you.
I think its unlikely you would make a profit from this. But if you are serious about running it on a sound financial basis then the Commercial Forum was set up to simplify that way of doing things. Why don't you email some of the organisers and get a better idea of what you are trying to do. They could probably advise you better than with what you are doing in the forum now.
I see your point dave,but at least we stimulated some lively posts lol Perhaps I should have put the words "voluntary contribution" in capitals. "Voluntary may refer to: A word meaning done, given, or acting of one's own free will" "That which is contributed; -- either the portion which an individual furnishes to the common stock" please Ecuador my amused sarcasm in this post lol.
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