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Gender non conformity and sexuality

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Having just watched the John Barrowman programme on sexuality, I thought I'd run a quick poll. Theres a theory that children who are gender non-conformist when they're young are more likely to be gay.
Did you conform as a child? If you were a boy, did you play with cars & guns, or dolls & make up? As a young girl, did you climb trees, or bake cakes?
I was utterly gender non conformist. I was always up a tree or play fighting. I'd make "dracula pies" rather than fairy cakes. I was at home with a hammer, a few bits of wood & my imagination, rather than Barbie.
How about you?
Damn... I knew there was something I wanted to watch tonight! :doh: Will have to dig it out on iPlayer...
Erm... straight-ish and conformed-ish!
wink
If theres a tame mod who could put back the option for "Bi, and non-conformist" I'd be eternally grateful wink
Can I just put my pedant head on?
It is incorrect to us the term "Gender" when it relates to human sexuality. Gender is a grammatical category that relates to nouns, adjectives and so on.
Ergo, The person's gender is male, is incorrect. It should be the person's sex is male.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I'll get my coat!!!
bolt
Quote by Peanut
Can I just put my pedant head on?
It is incorrect to us the term "Gender" when it relates to human sexuality. Gender is a grammatical category that relates to nouns, adjectives and so on.
Ergo, The person's gender is male, is incorrect. It should be the person's sex is male.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I'll get my coat!!!
bolt

*Poof. rolleyes
*In an utterly lightweight, non-homophobic sense. Some of my closest friends are poofs, and I have been known to drink from the furry cup myself.
Quote by winchwench
Can I just put my pedant head on?
It is incorrect to us the term "Gender" when it relates to human sexuality. Gender is a grammatical category that relates to nouns, adjectives and so on.
Ergo, The person's gender is male, is incorrect. It should be the person's sex is male.
Just thought you'd like to know.
*Poof. rolleyes
*In an utterly lightweight, non-homophobic sense. Some of my closest friends are poofs, and I have been known to drink from the furry cup myself.
I'll get my coat!!!
bolt

Ah, but an educated (but lecherous) "poof" :P
i was known as the tom-boy with boobs, still have more male friends than female. neutral
koo x
Tom-boy, no boobs biggrin
I've always felt more or less androgonous(sp?) I do like to dress up now and then but sometimes catch sight of myself in the mirror and think I look like a drag queen.
H.x
Hmmmm. I never had any dolls, but I liked to sew and knit, craft-type stuff. However, most of my playtime was climbing trees and generally tomboy-type things involving mud and such. Always been terrified of spiders though. Then again, that fear isn't gender-specific, is it?
Fb would of hated the young me redface used to collect spiders in jars set em free in my sisters bed 2 mins before she came upstairs on the odd occasion she was snoring too loudly i used to put them in her mouth to :scared: rolleyes nasty evil older sisters smackbottom
Fiddling with bikes
Making mud piles
Climbing trees
Making tarzan swings from the highest tree you could climb
Collecting spiders for said sisters punishment
Taming/breeding ferrets
Collecting newts and frogspawn in jars
Hanging about in the old disused mines close to home
Seeing how fast you could roll down the black heap (a local landmark left over from the disused mine basically a big pile of crap)
Yup normal girlie childhood for me wink
I have put myself as gay and conformed.. But I don't really know.
I am a qualified electrical engineer.(although couldn't get a job as men wouldn't employ me) I grew up at my dad's side passing him his tools when he was fixing helicopters and cars and everything else he did. I used to tuck my skirt around my legs to keep it from trailing on the floor or tuck it into my knickers if we were tramping through water and I needed to walk but hoist it up. I have always had long hair.
I had loads of best friends who were female and I played with Sindy until my brothers ruined that for me. rolleyes
Now I am all growed up I still wear skirts/dresses and have long hair. I loathe shopping. I don't talk about shit like TV or celebrity gossip and have no idea who is on big brother. I like fucking men and women with a strap on. :twisted:
I have never worn make-up and dislike it on women (or men) that I am kissing/fucking.
I like women with long hair and love nothing more that wrapping her hair in my hand while she is licking me out......... sorry went off on a tangent.
Ummm I don't know what I should have conformed to. I was me. I was normal (and still think of myself as such) I didn't realise that women actually could enjoy sex with men and really thought all women were like me until long after I was married. (well, actually the day after the wedding when he expected to have sex with me :shock: ) I thought that once you married you really didn't have to have sex again. It was only after meeting another woman who was open about sex that I realised that she loved having sex with her husband and I could be open about myself. She was wonderful and didn't judge either me or pass comment on his ability as a man. (like so many afterwards evil )
I love sex. I realise that I can enjoy sex with men as long as they can get their cock hard. I have no need of them sans cock. I use them like a warm dildo really. (sorry if that is cruel I am just attempting to explain) If they have a hard cock and can kiss well then that is brilliant. If they can do all that and speak with some degree of intelligence then I may want to fuck them. (that is no reference to my son's dad either. He needed me to be in love with him too. I can't do that with a man- although I have loved a few it hasn't been within a relationship)
With women I am as fussy but in a different way. They have to be intelligent, lovely breasts attractive, lovely breasts and have lovely breasts. Oh, and if they use femthrush then I will :vomitemoticon: Ummm I don't know what I am waffling about now.
Ummmm I may need to watch this programme.... did it answer the nature nurture thing ? (I don't actually watch TV but I presume that I can watch it on line somewhere)
has someone put some fucking truth serum in my summer fruits squash?

Knock yourself out. Apparently, he has nice breasts. wink
oooooo am watching. Now I know why my mate david wants his babies.... wink
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Knock yourself out. Apparently, he has nice breasts. wink

Cheers for the link. I just watched it. Fascinating.
yup watched it.
It was a composite of research that has been published in various formats over the last few years. It neither proves or disproves either nature or nurture. Which was a tad disappointing for those that are dependent on making sense of their sexuality rather than accepting it.
I was particularly interested when the scientists told him he was straight and he reacted with horror. Surely if he is living and loving a man that is all the evidence he needs that he is as gay as a gay thing.?
Let me put it this way. If I say that I am gay today and straight tomorrow and queer the day afterwards then I am. I am anything I want to be. I can wear any label I am comfortable with.
The challenge and issue for people in society (whichever one they belong to or live in) is when other's put labels on them and they don't match with the one's that they have chosen for themselves.
When I first came out everyone that I classed as friends dumped me. That caused a lot of anxiety and stress and as I built up my friendship circle again I chose gay people. It made it easier for me to know that I would be accepted for me. I do have a small minority of straight friends but I don't readily socialise with straight people as they often say offensive and ignorant things (unintentionally). My sexuality becomes an issue for them.
My 'label' is only an issue for others.
tomorrow I am purple with yellow stripes.
Quote by Peanut
Can I just put my pedant head on?
It is incorrect to us the term "Gender" when it relates to human sexuality. Gender is a grammatical category that relates to nouns, adjectives and so on.
Ergo, The person's gender is male, is incorrect. It should be the person's sex is male.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I'll get my coat!!!
bolt
Yes, but sex is such a dirty word.
Quote by splendid_
yup watched it.
It was a composite of research that has been published in various formats over the last few years. It neither proves or disproves either nature or nurture. Which was a tad disappointing for those that are dependent on making sense of their sexuality rather than accepting it.
I was particularly interested when the scientists told him he was straight and he reacted with horror. Surely if he is living and loving a man that is all the evidence he needs that he is as gay as a gay thing.?
Let me put it this way. If I say that I am gay today and straight tomorrow and queer the day afterwards then I am. I am anything I want to be. I can wear any label I am comfortable with.
The challenge and issue for people in society (whichever one they belong to or live in) is when other's put labels on them and they don't match with the one's that they have chosen for themselves.
When I first came out everyone that I classed as friends dumped me. That caused a lot of anxiety and stress and as I built up my friendship circle again I chose gay people. It made it easier for me to know that I would be accepted for me. I do have a small minority of straight friends but I don't readily socialise with straight people as they often say offensive and ignorant things (unintentionally). My sexuality becomes an issue for them.
My 'label' is only an issue for others.
tomorrow I am purple with yellow stripes.

For tomorrow:
Quote by splendid_
yup watched it.
It was a composite of research that has been published in various formats over the last few years. It neither proves or disproves either nature or nurture. Which was a tad disappointing for those that are dependent on making sense of their sexuality rather than accepting it.
I was particularly interested when the scientists told him he was straight and he reacted with horror. Surely if he is living and loving a man that is all the evidence he needs that he is as gay as a gay thing.?
Let me put it this way. If I say that I am gay today and straight tomorrow and queer the day afterwards then I am. I am anything I want to be. I can wear any label I am comfortable with.
The challenge and issue for people in society (whichever one they belong to or live in) is when other's put labels on them and they don't match with the one's that they have chosen for themselves.
When I first came out everyone that I classed as friends dumped me. That caused a lot of anxiety and stress and as I built up my friendship circle again I chose gay people. It made it easier for me to know that I would be accepted for me. I do have a small minority of straight friends but I don't readily socialise with straight people as they often say offensive and ignorant things (unintentionally). My sexuality becomes an issue for them.
My 'label' is only an issue for others.
tomorrow I am purple with yellow stripes.

Tomorrow you are Splendid and so will you be the day after kiss
you pair of feckin nutters rolleyes
fancy a threesome?
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Tomorrow you are Splendid and so will you be the day after kiss

Or more accurately, splendidly splendid_ (even when sneezing!).
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you pair of feckin nutters rolleyes
fancy a threesome?

Later, maybe. That's knackered my right hand :roll:
Quote by Peanut
Tomorrow you are Splendid and so will you be the day after kiss

Or more accurately, splendidly splendid_ (even when sneezing!).
Actually, if you say that out loud it does actually sound like you're sneezing lol