Hey guys. Does anyone know of genuine sites for meeting people for affairs? Hopefully free sites?
Cheers
i use illicitencounters and do okay. although i don't know how well it works in your part of the country.
register on the site but don't pay too soon. there are several goldiggers and professionals who will message you early on.
also there are a few who i think work on a commission. they keep mailing you, but when you do make contact they act like depressed mental cases and it really puts you off.
then there's the real sad lonely cases, which unfortunately are not really in charge of their own faculties.
so wait a few weeks and observe the people who check your profile and keep reading their profiles. Some of those may be potential partners. But most of the contacts you make will have to be initiated by you. make an effort to chat and find out about them. There are some hot ladies on the site and they are up for it.
I am using it this month and have a few possibles already. usually I find someone suitable and we have a fling for as long as it lasts. Sometimes a few weeks or months.
It is pricey, but its a deffo genuine site.
Ooft, very pricey. Lol. Not payin that for a shag, lol
Well that's exactly the wrong way to see it. You are paying for another level of opportunity, not for sex.
Think the whole idea of a site for extra-marital affairs sounds total shit to me personally - it puts me in mind of opportunists, victims and predators
What a really unwholesome idea it is to go looking to f*ck someones wife or husband knowing full well it is illicit and that by doing so could result in causing someone, somewhere a lot of pain and heartache.
Oh and before the arguements regard "yeah but it could be saving a marriage" or "You don't know the circumstances so don't be so quick to judge" etc. Well that's bollox. People should look to what they're thinking before embarking on such ventures and then judge their own standards and ethics first.
Ladies and Gents, please don't post links to other sites on the forum but reply by PM. Thanks :thumbup:
Yes you are right Lost that's exactly what it is.
There are opportunists, victims and predators.
I certainly don't agree with the sweeping condemnation of any type of extra marital activity advertised and arranged through a website as seedy and immoral - its my ideal weekend :rascal:
Im sure there are circumstances where an illicit affair could be the least painful option for all involved, you may just have to see it to believe it.
Some people say being able have a healthy relationship and swing is bollox, I wouldnt even bother arguing with them as they would have to see it to really believe it. That would really spoil the atmosphere at a meet :uhoh:
I have used IE twice when circumstances were different to the ones at the moment.
Yes, very pricey at £140 for a month plus amazing free offer of two extra weeks for the same price!!!!!! Yes, it did work for me the first time. I met a very genuine lady and we had a hot friendship...not so much an affair. The second time about a year later was a waste of time. Its the usual thing that you don't get replies to messages. When your membership expires you will start receiving messages from people way outside of the area and age group that you are looking for. You can almost bet that every one of these will have received on-line gifts to make them more attractive and persuade you to part with your money. You cannot of course open any messages without rejoining. On top of that you will receive messages to your inbox with no indication that the sender has even looked at your profile. Yes, it works.......if you're lucky.
Smooth1
I know there are always exceptions to the rule. We know of a lady who has been unable to have a sexual relationship with her husband for many years. She suggested a long time ago to her husband that he find sex elsewhere as it was hard on him to be deprived of that physical part of their relationship. Hard on her I might add to that too. Her only only rule to her husband was that she wasn't to know about it and so he goes on 'shopping trips'. He has had relationships on a purely physical basis with other women and they have known of his situation and other times he may use a sex worker. Of course his wife knows what he does but between them it's not mentioned.
I wouldn't condemn these actions and I'd even go so far as to applaud them to a degree. I guess extra marital in these types of extreme situations is different and I guess there are other circumstances where i would feel the same but I cant immediately think of any. These 'extra marital affairs' are different to the 'shagging behind a partners back' reasons though aren't they?
Swinging in some peoples, maybe most i don't know, minds is wrong and that's fair its their lives and they should do and act as they feel they should. Swinging is different though isn't it? Swinging is or should be done with a partners full knowledge (hopefully participation as well)and agreement. In our swinging life we've met a married single guy whose wife didn't swing but we met her, with him, in a pub and found out for ourselves that she was fine about him doing this so that was cool.
In my mind, and under the values I hold, these extra marital affairs done without the other partner knowing, and at the very least acquiescing, are wrong as its deceitful without, as I allude to above, some sort of acknowledgment and knowledge from their partner is wrong.
Its difficult to justify most of the more extraneous adult sexual adventures and whatever one says usually ends up sounding like a lame excuse.
With swinging there is the make believe that its okay because there's this general agreement between adults to be open and honest about what suits them. In fact that is often contained within a set of complex secrecies. But in general one wouldn't swing if one was an upstanding member of the community. In theory it shouldn't exist, or even reach a level of acceptable practice. However it does, clearly.
Using a dating site for adultery involves more secrecy and deceit. Its a factor that your partner doesn't know, so it's redundant to bemoan the lack of integrity in people doing it.
On its discovery there is an ironic difference between the two. Adulterers tend to be seen in a familiar light. Swingers can come off worse in terms of blame and responsibility, their reasons and justifications being less likely to be accepted, as they are not so easily understood. Its just that when the cookie crumbles, all the belief you have invested in, does not come to your aid quite so readily.
People will swing, commit adultery and , because its the dark beast of sex, that lurks in us all. You pick the level you feel comfortable with, but you might possibly not control it as well as you think.
But a lot of finding blame is simply passing the buck. And the buck tends to stop at the nonces. So anyone downscale can say, well at least................
But as far as you are concerned,so far, its been a recipe for occasional, intense gratuitous, sex.
The people involved are simply looking for the kind of sex you get with your friend.
The idea that its all a disaster planned and waiting to occur is not necessarily so. many of the women on such sites get free membership and remain for years. presumably carrying on a series of affairs with great success.
often even if they are caught out, they still return to do it again, and remain with their partners. so it does not always end in disaster. which is why it perpetuates itself.
its a sleazy way of having a certain juicy type of sex. but that's what the people who do it live for.
I still cant see illicit extra marital affairs being anything but wrong. OK so you might say and think that there's no harm in it if the one partner never finds out. The old adage of ignorance is bliss comes to mind I guess. Surely though a married relationship is built on trust and honesty and fucking about behind your partners back, who would more than likely be appalled at such an occurrence, flies in the face of trust and honesty?
If sex is a problem in a marriage for no physical or emotional reason and due to ones different desires then that should be discussed between partners and possibly, because i am a believer in it, third party professional help. At that point maybe some issues can be discussed and an understanding of each others needs gained and allowances made. Swinging maybe one of numerous options but the important thing is that its honest and not deceitful. If there is then still no ground gained then bigger questions might have to be asked if the urge to cheat and lie is still too great.
I am a bit of an old hippy i guess and the idea of staying with someone for financial or situational needs whilst being deceitful and cheating doesn't sit comfortably not at all. The idea of having honest sexual freedom within a relationship however does sit comfortably. I guess I will always condemn the actions of cheating and until someone can convince me that there's an honest way of being deceitful I can't see me changing my mind.
Hello,
As has been mentioned earlier it is very nice to have a reasoned discussion about something that means different things to different people. It is perhaps easier for me now to speak of my own situation and reasons for looking for someone else.
My wife passed away last Saturday after a marriage of 32 years. She had bravely fought breast cancer first and then secondary cancer after being given the all-clear for about two months at the beginning of February 2009.
We did it the 'right' way and respecting her wishes did not have sex before marriage. We did come? close to it on quite a few occasions. Our wedding night in Jersey was something of a disappointment. Given the fact that we were both tired etc there was little enthusiasm on her part to participate. Much of our married life has been similar.
Yes, we have had good times but she never had the drive to make the sexual relationship exciting. It wasn't quite as bad as 'the ceiling needs painting' but it was very one-sided. Legend has it that the man turns over after and goes to sleep and snores.....other way round for us! And guess who woke up first in the mornings!
I wouldn't even guess at the number of nights that something was hoped for/planned but she fell asleep first or frequently forgot. Perhaps the guys here will understand how frustrating it can be when this happens....perhaps more than for the ladies. Eventually you get into the situation of 'if she can't bother, why should I'. I could not ever contemplate "darling wake up I want to have the sex/make love you promised me". And so the rift gets deeper.
We tried swinging in the late 80's and 90's. Madame got little out of it and I think she went along for me. Sorry if this is dragging a bit but I think it would help to explain how a partner in a marriage becomes frustrated, lonely and even depressed.
After numerous talk-outs we were probably down to the last ditch attempt. The cancer was diagnosed in Aug 2007. We knew that things would not get any better now and whilst it may have been easy to leave, I would not do so when she needed me the most.
As the disease grew, physical contact between us became less and less. The chemo and radio therapy killed off the very little interest that she had. I don't know how they bottled their emotions and needs up years ago but its something that is almost impossible to do now. My lonliness and depression grew...almost total strangers in the same bed, inches apart. Madame suggested and encouraged me to find someone for company and more if necessary. Perhaps I was lucky in that I found a lady in a similar position quickly on IE and we had a hot friendship more than an affair.
The upshot of all this is that there are people with genuine reasons and needs that seek what is essentially an illicit affair due to their circumstances....not just looking for a bit on the side! I completely agree that to go behind your partner's back is not good and any person who fails to understand that their partner has genuine needs should open their eyes. I now find myself a widower and in due course can honestly change my profile on a couple of dating sites accordingly.
Smooth1
Dawnie,
Thankyou for your perception and I would quote my late wife here "find someone who can give you what I can't". Sadly this rang true before her diagnosis as well. The lonliness and isolation leading to depression cannot be understood by anyone who has not experienced it. Research shows that the partners of people with cancer are the most vulnerable to it. The partner loses interest and so do you eventually.
Illicit affairs/encounters may be OK for the skirt and trouser chasers of this world but they are vital to many people to help them achieve even the modicum of happiness that so many people take for granted when their partner can be sexually exciting or at least medically able.
Smooth1
As far as we are concerned extra marital affairs are a no no.
Swinging with the full consent of your other half is ok, but anything else is cheating, therefore bad.
I wouldn't have an affair but we don't need to. Our sex life is great and if either of us felt the need to sleep with other people behind the other ones back then we would split up. We are very much in love and have always had a very open and honest relationship. It wouldn't be the act of sex itself that would hurt, but the deceit and dishonesty. Yes, we sleep with other people a lot in this lifestyle but we do it together, it is honest, open and mutually agreed.
If however, something happened to one of us and we could no longer have sex together, that would be a very different situation. I know that if it was me who could no longer have sex I would give him permission to find it elsewhere. He has needs and I would totally understand that. I am sure that he would feel the same way as we know each other well enough to know that it would only be for sex, as every other part of our relationship we could still provide for each other.
We have played with people who are married and their partner has been unaware. It is not something that we actively look for and now prefer not to. Our swinging journey began with 3sum's with a female friend of mine who was not being sexually fulfilled by her husband (she was also very bi-curious and knew that her husband would not let her satisfy her curiosities). We both knew her husband but would not go as far as to call him a close friend. Yes, at first we felt bad about it but figured that it was her who was being unfaithful, not us. We knew her well, knew that she loved her husband very much and was just after the sex from us. She was no threat to our relationship.
The problem I have is that you may be looking for a quickie, a hot nsa sexual relationship, whatever you want to call it, behind your partners back but you don't know the other person or their intentions. They may be totally unhappy with their relationship and want more from you. You don't know them! They could be a closet bunny boiler!!! This is the same whether they're on a site looking for affairs or on here. This is why we have certain rules when it comes to playing with singles (single or married). We have a 'one time only' rule so that there is no opportunity for anything beyond sex to develop and if it's a guy they get Lee's number, if its a girl, they get my number so that they cannot contact us behind the other ones back.
Affairs, in my opinion, are very dodgy ground!
Affairs are dodgy in the hands of fools. But the women practising on the sites are just very good at it. And they have the power.
there's all sorts including the bunny boilers. but i am not interested in them. they range from bored lonely to sex workers to nutters. some are registered on this site and the others, so maybe you have already met them, but they played cleverly as swingers?
most use the site because its free membership and they are 'ordinary' women, with family, jobs and conventional lifestyles. you could say its all extremely boring really.
anyway its not something i want to advocate as being a 'good' thing to do, it isn't. it just happens to provide a certain type of sexual activity for those wanting to do it. in some cases the sex is exceptionally fierce and tasty.
i have not had the same kind of sex in a swinging encounter, they are quite different.
we are ruled by that dark beast i was talking about. one day it might want you to work a bit exrta to feed it. so watch out.
maybe maybe to all that. are you getting more curious about it. hmmmm.... you might find yourself coming under that dark beast.