are they writing, 'GothicPunk has a 9 foot willy!?'
I can't comment if this is not the case. If they are, I am sorry - I will try really hard not to influence the next generation of vandals quite so much...
(ps - I may have enouraged them to overestimate by a millimetre or so either way...)
(pps - whatever - I have had a hard weekend - you can say what you like, but it doesn't change anything... I will still claim every millimetre is really a yard...)
ppps - I have no idea what I am trying to talk about. i put it down to lack of nicotine. which I only gave up last week from a 30 year habit stretching at least 40 fags a day for at least 20 years... + i have maybe imbibed a slight amount of vodka-ish-type stuff, ... um... today - ish...)
The "artist" who decorated our garage door with various crap should be made to lick the offending paint off with his tongue.
Although irritated by this nonesense, I feel for the neighbour who has just spent weeks building a beautiful brick garage/workshop to come home, one week after completion to see some idiot had scrawled some rubbish down one side of it.
Romeo07 is a wanker IMO (thats the tag not a member of SH btw)
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How very odd... I also worked for a young persons organisation where the youngsters were in charge, we also arranged permission for them to turn the front of the building into one huge mural, took them months and turned out fabulous. they also had free range to do what they liked with the interior decor and not surprisingly it too turned into a work of art.
what made me smile was when one day they caught a young rapscallion defacing the outside mural with black marker pen, it was all we could do to stop them ripping his head off :lol2:
My opinion on your original question ...... it can be both. just because in our eyes a particular piece of work is artistic, doesn't make the act of creating it any less criminal if done without permission. I know there are places where the council / authorities then decide to leave it in place as it actually enhances the look of an area but i can't help but ask myself what message this sends out to the taggers and less talented grafittists? <i made that word up >
I was in Belfast in the 70's and yes as Lost pointed out, some of the graffiti was pretty impressive, however when mixed with the other crap that adorned almost every building on every street in every estate it only served to make the place look exactly like what it was, a depressed, war torn, ghettoised s**thole.
Do we really want to encourage that look for our towns, cities and estates? I don't really care as I now live in the country and avoid towns and cities like the plague but I can't imagine its very pleasant for the folk that have to live and work amongst it.
I thought I would revive this thread as Graffiti and is in the news so much here in Bristol at the moment - with Banksy's Homecoming Show "Bansky Vs Bristol Museum" on.
Since I originally started this thread I've been following Urban Graffiti Art quite closely and was chuffed to have been invited to Gallery Openings/Launch Shows/Graffiti Festivals.
What I have found is a brilliant, friendly bunch of people of all ages and talented artists on canvas to boot.
So, anyone coming down to good ole Bristol to see the show?
Anaisx
criminal damage.. if its on something not designated as for that purpose .. string em up
string up Damien Hurst. That would be art.
Once it quietens down we will go along to the Banksy exibt.
At our local shops all of the metal shutters are all "graffiti" painted and I think they look far nicer than just grey metal. To me it is art. The tagging on someone's wall round the corner is vandalism.
Art and Criminal Damage are not mutually exclusive.
I believe a lot of graffiti is art (of a mixed standard), the fact remains it is criminal damage also.
So what if it's good? well, that's a nice thing for some. It's still damage.
Banksy? Great he's talented. Many folks adore his stuff.
He's a criminal.
I could go and shoot Peter Sutcliffe tomorrow and many would say it was a great thing that I'd done. It would still be wrong, and I'd still be a criminal.
What's worse is... Banksy is now condoned. The British tax payer paid for him to be found, and now hat is forgotten. We also paid for some of his work to be removed.
Let him do something truly constructive with his art and paint some schools and youth projects with great art. Something that's agreed upon and welcomed.
Liking what someone does, doesn't make it right.
I like his worse, but it's still wrong.
It's a shame that kids are driven to feel a need to use graffiti in the manner they do. Many could actually earn good money for their skills.
Have to say that the majority of grafitti is just that, and a mess.
However people always pull banksy out of the bag to defend grafiti art when banksy is a clever social commentator and not necessarely an artist in the true sense ofg the world.
However here in the West Midlands we are blessed with the worlds leading grafitti artist in the form of 'TEMPER' google him.
His work is amazing, you just can't believe what he does with a spray can.
So grafiti can be art, though 'tags' are creative this is something that was used to mark a territory not as an artform in itself.
So check out temper he is the nuts
banksy is good at his trade yes- is it wrong maybe, but other artists have turned thier talents to good use. check out
the whaling wall at long beach CA
thats one hell of graffiti and a record breaker
look up wyland artist of the sea
thats what banksy and others should do,
I went along today and really enjoyed it - missed loads out as there is so much to see. Its like playing spot the Banksy around the museum, its fun tho!
I don't want to spoil it for anyone by posting photos but I couldn't resist this one...
Called *Dogging*
Scuse the crap pic - not allowed to use flash in the museum an my poor camera can't cope with the lighting!
I definitely love Bansky, and Basquiat..
and I've admired some of the "political" graffiti (if they qualify as such, that is..) that I've seen in Belfast
other than that, I absolutely hate the "tags", specially on historical monuments and important buildings..
tags in general, I find quite often ugly and just acts of vandalism.
a proper design and a proper message, I like, but most of the scribblings done by amateurs are really not worth their cost in paint.
to avoid random tags on their rolling shutters, several shops in Milano have commissioned local artists to paint some scene related to their trade, depicting what the store is all about.. kinda like that too, functional graffiti.
I would SO do something like that at an auction too! :giggle:
For anyone whose into Banksy this is the trailer for his film.. the name relates to the Bristol Museum Vs Banksy exhibition. Think the full film is out 24th March in the uk.
