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we have in the past talking about seeing just cock pics in profiles and how people feel about that.. and i hope that opened eyes to the people who do it...
but can i ask if it is the same attitude to pics with regards to women...
or is there a double standard going on......
just been going thru some ads and all i see are genital pics or close up action shots it got just me thinking?
sean xxxxxx
Quote by fabio
we have in the past talking about seeing just cock pics in profiles and how people feel about that.. and i hope that opened eyes to the people who do it...
but can i ask if it is the same attitude to pics with regards to women...
or is there a double standard going on......
just been going thru some ads and all i see are genital pics or close up action shots it got just me thinking?
sean xxxxxx

No double standards here!
I don't like close up genital shots - male or female.
Unless a person has very 'photogenic' genitals, IMO they are far better in real life than frozen in a 'sterile / cold' 2D pic.
I dislike seeing erect cock pics on profiles, and I suspect many women feel the same.
genital and action shots do nothing for me at all. I like watching some porn, but that's not a still image. I'd rather see a seductive, have a look at what might be under the wrapping type pic than a here it is what do you think of it blatant everything hanging out pic any day
There's something incredible erotic about almost seeing but not quite....
And yes that does apply for both sexes
I too prefer not to see just genital shots. It's nice to see a more carfeully crafted image or even one when you can actually see a face, although I can understand why a lot of people wouldn't want to show theirs.
Well I'm not bothered either way. Our profile only has them at the minute because we simply haven't had the time to take some new ones plus this is a sex/swinging site is it not? Forgive me if I speak out of turn, but in a liberated swinging sex site are people actually offended by genital shots? ? ?
dunno
If I receive a PM with genital shots it doesn't upset me and I disagree with a poster above saying that majority of woman wouldn't like to see an erect penis... I'm sorry but if it was a choice between flacid or erect... hmm erect does it for me any time! :happy: I'm a bit of a pervy pervy, I love a picture of a man with an erect penis!.. I also quite like erotic pics of women also. But this is all about me and my preferences, I wouldn't dictate any other to anyone else.
I don't have double standards, I like genital pics and we have them so there's my answer lol What I will say is that receiving a profile with or without genital shots doesn't have any bearing on a decision to meet or not... its about the time taken to write out profiles and how we get on that matters not the presentation of the bits in question in a photo!
We dont think there is a double standard at all.
What you see all too clearly, and all too often displayed, is a shockingly low standard of "self-erotica".
The continual use of close up genital shots is not a turn on for either us or as far as we know any of our swinging friends (- we did the usual very unscientific straw poll to ascertain this amazing result).
We all enjoy "self-erotica" and we all enjoy a wide range of "self-erotica", but almost to a man (or woman) the "self-erotica" that is enjoyed most by all, is that which contains the 'nearly shot'.
- That is to say the almost fully revealed, the almost exposed, and those piccys which merely hint at the sexual explosion that might (or might not) be going on just under the surface.
Now, we dont critisize those that require a more 'closer to the bone' type of erotica - each to there own - and we have to say that a tastefully done cock shot has its merit, but it does become monotonous, and off putting after a very short while.
Lingerie, and a bit of thought about camera angles, lighting, and pose goes a long way to helping achieve that provocative and suggestive pose which inspires the mind and imagination, stimulating your most important sexual organ - YOUR BRAIN!!
We've done the best we can with our piccys (yeah we know they aint perfect by a long way but then we never claimed to be professional erotica merchants) and we do hope it shows, without showing if you know what we mean.
Anyway enough of me meanderings - I'm sure this was covered in another post somewhere but it is certainly a topic that could do with a regular airing.
I must admit to being a bit baffled sometimes. So many females say that they are not the slightest bit interested in seeing cock pics, and yet some of those cock pics in the gallery have very high viewing totals...into the hundreds or even over a thousand. It can't surely be just gay guys looking at them? dunno
Quote by jaymar
If I receive a PM with genital shots it doesn't upset me and I disagree with a poster above saying that majority of woman wouldn't like to see an erect penis...

Its not clear if Jaymar is refering to my post, I did not write that the majority of women dislike this, I don't know what other SH members think as I haven't asked them, but I'm sure more women will express their view in this thread if they so wish.
Remember, I am a st8 man so my view on seeing erect cock pics is bound to be different from a st8 women's. Seeing other mens cocks in an erect state does not botther me in real life, but in pics, I'm not so keen.
Turning the tables, how do women feel about looking at female friends genitals compared to looking at pics on this site?
Quote by Liaisons

If I receive a PM with genital shots it doesn't upset me and I disagree with a poster above saying that majority of woman wouldn't like to see an erect penis...

Its not clear if Jaymar is refering to my post, I did not write that the majority of women dislike this, I don't know what other SH members think as I haven't asked them, but I'm sure more women will express their view in this thread if they so wish.
Remember, I am a st8 man so my view on seeing erect cock pics is bound to be different from a st8 women's. Seeing other mens cocks in an erect state does not botther me in real life, but in pics, I'm not so keen.
Turning the tables, how do women feel about looking at female friends genitals compared to looking at pics on this site?
rolleyes I'm not going down that road again, I didn't draw attention to your post as I wasn't drawing attention to you directly just the quote.. but you did actually say...
Quote by Liaisons
I dislike seeing erect cock pics on profiles, and I suspect many women feel the same.

which I interpreted to mean... many women feel the same, I just said I disagreed with that, speaking as a woman
Just read Laff_n_Chilli's post and you could do with better lighting, but before you take offence, check my feeble effort on my profile, it took a whole bloody hour to light that radiator evenly! :shock:
But I have to say your pics did the trick for me wink less is so often more, and you do look like you are enjoying the expereince, shame you live so far away...
When i first joined i did have a couple of naughty pictures up, because even though i didnt really want them to be there i thought it was the norm. Just from browsing profiles i did see a lot of genital shots from men and women. Even though it doesnt really bother me whether theyre there or not i definately wont be having any on mine. I do think its a bit more exciting when there is a little left to the imagination. But then again i do go into perving mode sometimes and have a sneaky peek but i just dont like my bits and bobs on show for all to see.
louise xx
Quote by Liaisons
Just read Laff_n_Chilli's post and you could do with better lighting, but before you take offence, check my feeble effort on my profile, it took a whole bloody hour to light that radiator evenly! :shock:
But I have to say your pics did the trick for me wink less is so often more, and you do look like you are enjoying the expereince, shame you live so far away...

no offence taken at all - we did our best and are learning all the time - with looks like ours darker is probably better
- and you've got 3 piccys hidden - We wonder what could be on those!!! redface
As someone who's never had a pic on here - how do you know if it's theirs anyway? I know most are but there must be a few fakes too!
A picture of my cock bless it would look like any other guys, it's an ok reasonable sized normal cock!
However I don't object to pictures of them or of women close up, it's all what you see if you do do something with people though so much more to it than that of course.
Also not everyone can show their face!
Quote by Laff_n_Chilli
- and you've got 3 piccys hidden - We wonder what could be on those!!! redface

Two were very naff early attempts and I only keep them there as a reminder to myself of how not to take a photo. The 3rd, I'm not going to say in a forum, except its not an erect cock pic, but it shows that camera angle combined with a resulting 2D photo, does allow the camera to lie somewhat. I doubt I would ever show it to anyone, I am a bit shy you know...
why not just change the title of the site to DATING HEAVEN,
surely if we cut the swinging side out there would be less to concern ourselves with, maybe even lower the age of members then, we would of course have to close the cam rooms and stop the overtly sexual behaviour that goes on in there, .....
or we could live and let live , expect to see cocks and tits and bums and fannies cos its a swinging site, where sex and sexual organs are generally of some importance compared to other non sexual sites...
the "offending" pictures come up as thumbnails, dont enlarge them, i know that doesnt stop you seeing them but perhaps not as graphicaly , i get the impression there are one or two mary whitehouses on here that just have to check out profiles to see what they can find offensive, and im not refering to anyone that has posted on this thread before this gets personal, if you want to be offended by that remark thats your doing not mine.
not going to give my personal opinion on whether i like to see them or not as im just one of many on here, what difference would telling you make anyway?
if people are swingers they will choose what they think is appropriate to sell themselves to other swingers, if folk are exhibitionists they will do the same through the profile system on here, and if people are here for just a natter then im sure they will put up whatever they feel apropriate if anything at all, just let folk get on with it or where the hell does it end??? This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
my apologies to any under age people reading this site or people who find cocks offensive, tits annoying , fannies disgusting and asses to in your face....perhaps sewing heaven might be more your site.
staggy
wild rose and the stag,
Going by your post, I was expecting your profile to be filled with cocks and gaping fannies everywhere, but no, you have the 'erotic type' pics that so many enjoy, myself included.
Quote by wild rose and the stag
if people are swingers they will choose what they think is appropriate to sell themselves to other swingers, if folk are exhibitionists they will do the same through the profile system on here, and if people are here for just a natter then im sure they will put up whatever they feel apropriate if anything at all, just let folk get on with it or where the hell does it end??? This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
staggy

Can't argue a word with you there Staggy kiss
Quote by Liaisons
wild rose and the stag,
Going by your post, I was expecting your profile to be filled with cocks and gaping fannies everywhere, but no, you have the 'erotic type' pics that so many enjoy, myself included.

would it be unfair of me to just side with my personal opinion and not what i truly feel is fair? lol
I personally like teasing photos, ones where not just a cock in a fanny is on show....
i prefer lengree (cant be arsed to spell it properly)
I have norty naked pics of me but they are in my pvt gallery, and I am sure people have seen me naked anyway, I have a topless one and me dressed in a suit availble to general public...
if people want a perv my PM box is open for requests.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Mike
Quote by wild rose and the stag
why not just change the title of the site to DATING HEAVEN,
surely if we cut the swinging side out there would be less to concern ourselves with, maybe even lower the age of members then, we would of course have to close the cam rooms and stop the overtly sexual behaviour that goes on in there, .....
or we could live and let live , expect to see cocks and tits and bums and fannies cos its a swinging site, where sex and sexual organs are generally of some importance compared to other non sexual sites...
the "offending" pictures come up as thumbnails, dont enlarge them, i know that doesnt stop you seeing them but perhaps not as graphicaly , i get the impression there are one or two mary whitehouses on here that just have to check out profiles to see what they can find offensive, and im not refering to anyone that has posted on this thread before this gets personal, if you want to be offended by that remark thats your doing not mine.
not going to give my personal opinion on whether i like to see them or not as im just one of many on here, what difference would telling you make anyway?
if people are swingers they will choose what they think is appropriate to sell themselves to other swingers, if folk are exhibitionists they will do the same through the profile system on here, and if people are here for just a natter then im sure they will put up whatever they feel apropriate if anything at all, just let folk get on with it or where the hell does it end??? This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
my apologies to any under age people reading this site or people who find cocks offensive, tits annoying , fannies disgusting and asses to in your face....perhaps sewing heaven might be more your site.
staggy

seriously... you can breathe out any time you want!!! biggrin :D
I never said there was a problem about it.... I was just asking after the countless threads with regards to cock pics... I was asking if the same was applicable to womens pics...or whether there was a double standard in the way these are perceived...
for me that is an interesting topic......
I just hope that if you feel that strongly that you would put up such a strong defence in those smile
Quote by wild rose and the stag
This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
staggy

A SEX SITE? Is it really? I thought it was a Swinging site, hence the name 'Swinging Heaven', where people who wish to swing get together to have sex!
Some might argue that far too many SH members have no intention of swinging in practice.
Quote by fabio
why not just change the title of the site to DATING HEAVEN,
surely if we cut the swinging side out there would be less to concern ourselves with, maybe even lower the age of members then, we would of course have to close the cam rooms and stop the overtly sexual behaviour that goes on in there, .....
or we could live and let live , expect to see cocks and tits and bums and fannies cos its a swinging site, where sex and sexual organs are generally of some importance compared to other non sexual sites...
the "offending" pictures come up as thumbnails, dont enlarge them, i know that doesnt stop you seeing them but perhaps not as graphicaly , i get the impression there are one or two mary whitehouses on here that just have to check out profiles to see what they can find offensive, and im not refering to anyone that has posted on this thread before this gets personal, if you want to be offended by that remark thats your doing not mine.
not going to give my personal opinion on whether i like to see them or not as im just one of many on here, what difference would telling you make anyway?
if people are swingers they will choose what they think is appropriate to sell themselves to other swingers, if folk are exhibitionists they will do the same through the profile system on here, and if people are here for just a natter then im sure they will put up whatever they feel apropriate if anything at all, just let folk get on with it or where the hell does it end??? This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
my apologies to any under age people reading this site or people who find cocks offensive, tits annoying , fannies disgusting and asses to in your face....perhaps sewing heaven might be more your site.
staggy

seriously... you can breathe out any time you want!!! biggrin :D
I never said there was a problem about it.... I was just asking after the countless threads with regards to cock pics... I was asking if the same was applicable to womens pics...or whether there was a double standard in the way these are perceived...
for me that is an interesting topic......
I just hope that if you feel that strongly that you would put up such a strong defence in those smile
haha fabio you are funny , breath out, im in stitches however it does serve a purpose to belittle my comments at the very start of your reply, go spell check it fella you may well have a field day, cos we all know how important punctuation and spelling is to have an idea about anything in the forum these days.
right onto the more important and yet not really important as its JUST A WEB SITE bit, ooh hang on lol :lol: wink rolleyes :lol: cool dont wanna offend, or should that be "want to" who actually who gives a shit cos its irelevant to the point isnt it :lol:
who said it wasnt an interesting topic?
dont i talk generally as oposed to singling out the female anatomy fabio? try fanny and tits in wikepedia and see if you can see where my defence lies...
fabio i was not refering to you i was refering to the consensus of opinion that got general nudity removed from the forum, so your litle bit at the top of this interesting, i agree, topic is small talk and not the basis of my reply, in case you werent sure
staggy
Quote by wild rose and the stag
why not just change the title of the site to DATING HEAVEN,
surely if we cut the swinging side out there would be less to concern ourselves with, maybe even lower the age of members then, we would of course have to close the cam rooms and stop the overtly sexual behaviour that goes on in there, .....
or we could live and let live , expect to see cocks and tits and bums and fannies cos its a swinging site, where sex and sexual organs are generally of some importance compared to other non sexual sites...
the "offending" pictures come up as thumbnails, dont enlarge them, i know that doesnt stop you seeing them but perhaps not as graphicaly , i get the impression there are one or two mary whitehouses on here that just have to check out profiles to see what they can find offensive, and im not refering to anyone that has posted on this thread before this gets personal, if you want to be offended by that remark thats your doing not mine.
not going to give my personal opinion on whether i like to see them or not as im just one of many on here, what difference would telling you make anyway?
if people are swingers they will choose what they think is appropriate to sell themselves to other swingers, if folk are exhibitionists they will do the same through the profile system on here, and if people are here for just a natter then im sure they will put up whatever they feel apropriate if anything at all, just let folk get on with it or where the hell does it end??? This is A SEX SITE IS IT NOT, WELL SEX IS THE BASE OF MOST DISCUSSIONS ON HERE ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WONDER WHERE THE SITE IS GOING
my apologies to any under age people reading this site or people who find cocks offensive, tits annoying , fannies disgusting and asses to in your face....perhaps sewing heaven might be more your site.
staggy

Yep I'd said something similar above... when did the sex disappear from swinging??!!! :shock: and if this is a liberated site, why are we discussing it anyway?? each to their own shouldn't it be?
Quote by Miss_Kiss
No double standards here!
I don't like close up genital shots - male or female.

:thumbup:
That pretty much sums it up for me
Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
No double standards here!
I don't like close up genital shots - male or female.

:thumbup:
That pretty much sums it up for me
but would you stop them appearing on the site?
I must admit to having thought about this and vaguely recall something being said (years ago) that genital pics on the forum weren't allowed but in profile/adverts, anything goes ? (well within the AUP).
I personally don't "like" to see genital shots, but ..... I recognise that others do want to see that! Surely, excuse the pun, it's swings and roundabouts!
If someone has a genital shot you just ignore it and take the rest of the information you know about the person to make an assessment.
The site has moved away from being purely about swinging, it does cater a lot more for those with other tastes, voyeurism, exhibitionism, cross dressers, tv's, lesbian, gay, BDSM you name it we pretty much have a diverse community.
But .. at the end of the day the one thing that unites al the different pockets of people is sex and it does feel more and more that people are complaining about that very thing dunno
Cx
Quote by Calista
I must admit to having thought about this and vaguely recall something being said (years ago) that genital pics on the forum weren't allowed but in profile/adverts, anything goes ? (well within the AUP).
I personally don't "like" to see genital shots, but ..... I recognise that others do want to see that! Surely, excuse the pun, it's swings and roundabouts!
If someone has a genital shot you just ignore it and take the rest of the information you know about the person to make an site has moved away from being purely about swinging, it does cater a lot more for those with other tastes, voyeurism, exhibitionism, cross dressers, tv's, lesbian, gay, BDSM you name it we pretty much have a diverse community.
But .. at the end of the day the one thing that unites al the different pockets of people is sex and it does feel more and more that people are complaining about that very thing dunno
Cx

:thumbup: I like what you said about the reading the information rather than judging on pics, I agree.... and when you say the site has moved away from just swinging to cater for voyeurists, TV's, gay's etc... I'm puzzled, didn't it always cater for those neeeds?
I wonder also, has anyone ever looked through the gallery? there are hundreds of genital shots which more or less shows people still like posing for the pics and then posting the pics, it's sexy it's fun, and it's their life. wink
Quote by jaymar
I must admit to having thought about this and vaguely recall something being said (years ago) that genital pics on the forum weren't allowed but in profile/adverts, anything goes ? (well within the AUP).
I personally don't "like" to see genital shots, but ..... I recognise that others do want to see that! Surely, excuse the pun, it's swings and roundabouts!
If someone has a genital shot you just ignore it and take the rest of the information you know about the person to make an site has moved away from being purely about swinging, it does cater a lot more for those with other tastes, voyeurism, exhibitionism, cross dressers, tv's, lesbian, gay, BDSM you name it we pretty much have a diverse community.
But .. at the end of the day the one thing that unites al the different pockets of people is sex and it does feel more and more that people are complaining about that very thing dunno
Cx

:thumbup: I like what you said about the reading the information rather than judging on pics,I agree.... and when you say the site has moved away from just swinging to cater for voyeurists, TV's, gay's etc... I'm puzzled, didn't it always cater for those neeeds?

Indeed the site always has, however, over the last couple of years, it has been taken for gratned that the acceptance is there. IMO no-one notices anymore and that's possibly down to the way the site has always been.
I've been on other sites where the thought of a CD/TG on the scene was not encouraged ~ end of.
It's the diversity that makes SH so special!
Cx