guys??? fancy a party???

6 Sep 2005

hi guys
found this on another site
anyone fancy being ripped off bigtime????
lol
2`s
This is a membership club which entitles you to a discount at every sunday party you attend. Our parties are usually Â£100 to attend. With club membership for the year which is Â£150, this entitles you to attend any sunday party for just Â£80.
Alternatively we do a 6 month membership subscription for Â£100 & a 3 month membership subscription for Â£60. Membership club cards are provided which may either be collected at your 1st party you attend or it can be posted to you depending on your discretion.
Parties are the last Sunday of every month.
If you cannot attend a sunday party for the full 4 hours you may attend for just an hour for just Â£50. 2,3 or 4 hrs is Â£80. If you are attending for just an hour it does not matter what time you arrive between the 4 hour party as long as you let us know when making a booking to attend a specific party.
All sunday parties are totally relaxed just as sunday's are supposed to be. There is no pressure to participate with any of the girls just jump in whenever you feel like it. We supply snacks/drink & some condoms.
How it works is after you become a member you are entitled to attend any 12 sunday parties over a period of a year for just Â£80 per party.

6 Sep 2005

Don't sound like a swingers party but more like paid girls who have sex with you confused

6 Sep 2005

I can't see how one could even RELAXED after being so HEAVILY TAXXXX.
confused

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deiz.

6 Sep 2005

See you on the worlds best site already smile

No need to look at any other, and here is more evidence of that :)
Stay here, stay safe, and chill...

6 Sep 2005

This is the bit i find really horrible...

Quote by twos_company
All sunday parties are totally relaxed just as sunday's are supposed to be. There is no pressure to participate with any of the girls just jump in whenever you feel like it. We supply snacks/drink & some condoms.
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Sounds like, if you want a fuck, just walk up and get it... you don't even have to ask, be nice, or anything. What about the "no pressure to participate" for any of thegirls?
It's pimping, plain and simple. mad

6 Sep 2005

Quote by tallnhairy
See you on the worlds best site already No need to look at any other, and here is more evidence of that :)

You mean there are other sites out there!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

6 Sep 2005

ooo how much is it for women to join? wink

6 Sep 2005

"Club" Hmmmmm sounds more like a brothel to me confused

6 Sep 2005

We dont need whores for sale here if we want fun we will get to know each other and make our own arrangments evil

6 Sep 2005

80 quid :shock: :shock:
theres a place down the road that only charges 40
er so I heard rolleyes

6 Sep 2005

Ok, so its a "rip off" or a very thinly diguised prostitution racket.... and the problem is?
90% of the "greedy girls" parties are the same... just slightly better disguised (and a bit cheaper!!!)
Of cause with greedy girls... all you are paying for is "entry" or a donation towards the hotel cost... oh yeah and they get to use vidieo and photographic work on their pay to view web sites so its not technically prostitution and from watching a docu one major couple involved do deny you're actually paying for sex....
Personally why quible over semantics.... the moment money in any way shape or form exchanges hands then its either prostitution or running a disordly house or living off imoral earnings under UK law.
I have no problem with anyone making money from either running an event or running a club... what I do have a problem with is when there is a disparit charge depending on sex or if you are a couple.... if a club was truely a swingers club with the whole "ethos" of swinging then either it would ban all singles (male and female) or it would charge women and men the same... with perhaps a slight discount for couples.... but none do which strangely enought still manages to break the sexual equality act without being prosecuted (I think its due to working mens clubs and some notable clubs that males from teh HoL and HoC attend... and they didnt want women so its a loop hole)
A swingers club that says "singel fems are free or 5quid" and "males are 40quid and 50 membership" are basically saying..... guys you pay for it, women you put out cos you're free....
Thats not to say the people that go to the clubs (males, females, couples) have that mind set... but the clubs do!!!!! Single men are the cash cows, and single fems are the bait as far as they are concerned.

7 Sep 2005

Â£80!! ..... that's nothing!!!
I give my ex wife Â£3,000 per year ....... and I don't even get to kiss her .... ffs!!!

7 Sep 2005

I couldn't agree more with piercedjohn

7 Sep 2005

A high price to pay...................
Sounds like a thinly disguised house of ill-repute to me............
Carefully worded so as to encourage people to think its a swingers party...... a definite caveat is required......
equi-princess xxx

7 Sep 2005

Quote by piercedJon
A swingers club that says "singel fems are free or 5quid" and "males are 40quid and 50 membership" are basically saying..... guys you pay for it, women you put out cos you're free....
Thats not to say the people that go to the clubs (males, females, couples) have that mind set... but the clubs do!!!!! Single men are the cash cows, and single fems are the bait as far as they are concerned.

Hi Jon,
really interested in what you had to say as ive never been to a swingers club but had just started to have a look at some of the reviews on here. I had also noticed that the prices were high for men and free or at least very cheap for women. This struck me as odd too. Though having read some of the reviews the general consensus is that these places appear to be frequented by more single guys than couples or women.. some reviews even suggesting the women are so thin on the ground that they are followed throughout the club wherever they go, by guys desperate for something to see or participate in.
As a business, it would be very clear that you need to attract more ladies, so as many business, bars, nightclubs etc do, they offer discounts for women. Im just turning your argument on its head for arguments sake and suggesting that single men are far from cash cows but perhaps the victims of their own voracity?
mind you... having never been to a swingers club im not saying i have any great insight into it.. i'd be interested to hear about others' experience of them.
F
x

7 Sep 2005

Quote by twos_company
hi guys
found this on another site
anyone fancy being ripped off bigtime????
lol
2`s
This is a membership club which entitles you to a discount at every sunday party you attend. Our parties are usually Â£100 to attend. With club membership for the year which is Â£150, this entitles you to attend any sunday party for just Â£80.
Alternatively we do a 6 month membership subscription for Â£100 & a 3 month membership subscription for Â£60. Membership club cards are provided which may either be collected at your 1st party you attend or it can be posted to you depending on your discretion.
Parties are the last Sunday of every month.
If you cannot attend a sunday party for the full 4 hours you may attend for just an hour for just Â£50. 2,3 or 4 hrs is Â£80. If you are attending for just an hour it does not matter what time you arrive between the 4 hour party as long as you let us know when making a booking to attend a specific party.
All sunday parties are totally relaxed just as sunday's are supposed to be. There is no pressure to participate with any of the girls just jump in whenever you feel like it. We supply snacks/drink & some condoms.
How it works is after you become a member you are entitled to attend any 12 sunday parties over a period of a year for just Â£80 per party.

and there was i dragged in by the title
only to find it was something totall different
cheer's 2's

7 Sep 2005

Quote by piercedJon
A swingers club that says "singel fems are free or 5quid" and "males are 40quid and 50 membership" are basically saying..... guys you pay for it, women you put out cos you're free....
Thats not to say the people that go to the clubs (males, females, couples) have that mind set... but the clubs do!!!!! Single men are the cash cows, and single fems are the bait as far as they are concerned.

It's economics. Why are house prices dearer in desirable areas? Why do you pay more for a cinema ticket on Saturday night than Tuesday afternoon? Because there is greater demand than supply so the price can be raised and people are still willing to pay.
Clubs are businesses. They charge what the market will bear in order to maximise their profit. At present, guys are prepared to pay what is asked so they will continue to be charged it. There is a simple answer to single males who feel ripped off by the clubs ... don't go. And boycott the cinema on a Saturday because it's cheaper on a Tuesday and therefore discriminates against those who can only get out on Saturday night.
Also, we have considerable experience of many clubs, both on couples only and mixed nights. At no time have we ever seen or felt pressure put on a female to "put out" by owners or staff, only pressure from single guys. In fact most clubs will stress to new visitors that no means no and that there is no obligation to do anything at all.

7 Sep 2005

but do single guys who go to 1 of these things-
next they`re calling themselves swingers-
and expect 2 treat real swingers the same
a quick one liner & they reckon they`ll score...............
doesn`t work like that
its got 2 be fun- or something a bit different
and i`m drunk and rambling!!!!!!
dawn

7 Sep 2005

Hi Dawn
nice pic !!!

7 Sep 2005

thanks naked cleaner.........
that`s about the limit of the pms we`ve had today
talk about 1 liners!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 Sep 2005

Quote by twos_company
but do single guys who go to 1 of these things- you mean a club?
next they`re calling themselves swingers- why shouldn't they?
and expect 2 treat real swingers the same what's a real swinger?
a quick one liner & they reckon they`ll score...............they frequently do
doesn`t work like that it does :lol:
its got 2 be fun- or something a bit different it's certainly fun.
and i`m drunk and rambling!!!!!! you possibly are :wink: :lol: :lol:
dawn

I will leave it to someone with far more knowledge than me to tell you what a real swinger is, but I can tell you that clubs are very different to the internet. At a club, what you see is what you get and you usually get it there and then. :lol:
Single guys do score at clubs, just like couples and single fems score at clubs, often with less than 1 line. Clubs can involve old friends playing but can also involve total strangers who haven't exchanged a word playing. Are they swingers? Well they certainly have consensual no strings sex so they probably are.

7 Sep 2005

hi dawn..........
sorry couldnt resist rolleyes

:roll: :roll:

7 Sep 2005

was talking about the guys at the "jump on jump off as u feel like" parties
dargento- r stupid posts like that why u done 143 in less than a month???
its taken us ages!!!!!!!!!!

7 Sep 2005

Quote by northwest-cpl
It's economics. Why are house prices dearer in desirable areas? Why do you pay more for a cinema ticket on Saturday night than Tuesday afternoon? Because there is greater demand than supply so the price can be raised and people are still willing to pay.
Clubs are businesses. They charge what the market will bear in order to maximise their profit. At present, guys are prepared to pay what is asked so they will continue to be charged it. There is a simple answer to single males who feel ripped off by the clubs ... don't go. And boycott the cinema on a Saturday because it's cheaper on a Tuesday and therefore discriminates against those who can only get out on Saturday night.
Also, we have considerable experience of many clubs, both on couples only and mixed nights. At no time have we ever seen or felt pressure put on a female to "put out" by owners or staff, only pressure from single guys. In fact most clubs will stress to new visitors that no means no and that there is no obligation to do anything at all.

I agree with all of these points. It is a simple demand-supply equation that clubs are using to charge single guys more than couples or single fems. I don't think it is clubs saying that cos women pay less that they're expected to "put out". As a female that has attended clubs quite frequently over the last few years, I have never been told by the staff of any club that I am there as part of their "marketting stategy". As someone who frequently goes to watch or to chill out without playing, you would think that if that was the case they'd have pulled me up long ago for not "putting out" :lol2: . However, I do think some guys go to clubs with the attitude that they have paid more therefore the females there are there for their pleasure, and that is a problem that perhaps some clubs need to address.
It is the case that some guys do boycott clubs cos of the prices. I've spoken to lots of guys who will only attend clubs as a couple and not as a single cos they do not want to be stung for the membership fee or the extra entry fee. Good on 'em I say, and yes, if you're a single guy and you're prepared to pay the price, you can't really whinge about it, can you? lol

The greedy girl party scene is different from the regular nights at clubs. Different ethos, completely. I have been to couple of greedy girls nights at one club in manchester where they had paid girls there to service the guys. I went as a spectator and I went in free, yet I was never told that I should participate. However, the atmosphere was nothing like what I am used to at regular swingers nights, and I didn't enjoy it.
Greedy girls events that are charging Â£80 or more for entry are not swingers events in my view, and are simply glorified prostitution. Good luck to anyone who wants to pay that kind of money, I can think of much better ways to spend that kind of dosh, but each to their own confused

7 Sep 2005

Some single males think a swingers club is a place where you can treat women like dirt. They are the ones who spoil it for the rest of us.
Those who appreciate the swinging scene properly enjoy getting to know people as real people in a club. And if anything else happens, it's all the more satisfying with a real person than just a masturbation toy.
I'm not keen on swingers clubs having paid workers for "massage". If that's what you want there are other types of establishment that provide it.

7 Sep 2005

Quote by bluexxx
However, I do think some guys go to clubs with the attitude that they have paid more therefore the females there are there for their pleasure, and that is a problem that perhaps some clubs need to address.
I think thatâ€™s not a case of having paid more, but having paid any money in the first place.
The greedy girl party scene is different from the regular nights at clubs. Different ethos, completely. I have been to couple of greedy girls nights at one club in manchester where they had paid girls there to service the guys. I went as a spectator and I went in free, yet I was never told that I should participate. However, the atmosphere was nothing like what I am used to at regular swingers nights, and I didn't enjoy it.
Weâ€™ve been to a few strictly amateur greedy girls nights and they are very similar to a normal mixed club night except that most of the women present are usually very happy to play with several single guys at once. I believe that the nights at the place that you've been to are very different though, just like that place is very different to anywhere else we've been. :?

Quote by twos_company
was talking about the guys at the "jump on jump off as u feel like" parties

Sorry, I see that now. Your post was immediately after mine about clubs so I assumed you were replying to me and talking about clubs. redface

7 Sep 2005

Quote by sparking
Some single males think a swingers club is a place where you can treat women like dirt. They are the ones who spoil it for the rest of us.
Those who appreciate the swinging scene properly enjoy getting to know people as real people in a club. And if anything else happens, it's all the more satisfying with a real person than just a masturbation toy.
I'm not keen on swingers clubs having paid workers for "massage". If that's what you want there are other types of establishment that provide it.

Yes, I do think it is the case that pushy and rude guys (thankfully they are only a minority of guys who attend clubs, most guys ARE respectful in my experience) are very much a problem in some clubs specifically, and across the scene generally. I've heard couples say that they do not attend mixed nights that they would normally go to cos of the pushiness of some of the guys. I'm quite an experienced clubber and I have seen otherwise good nights ruined for both the couples and guys in attendence due to the behaviour of one or two guys. Obvious rudeness and aggression by guys is (usually) dealt with very effectively by club staff if it is drawn to their attention, but though they have a clear no means no policy, some guys still haven't got the message and their attitude stinks... I wonder whether they are that rude in their normal every day lives too..... confused

I have no problem with clubs using their premises for "massage" also, provided it is not at the same time as the swingers club's opening times. One club I go to have "massage" times at different times than the club is open, and they keep the two lines of business separate. I can't see this is a problem at all.

7 Sep 2005

Quote by sparking
Some single males think a swingers club is a place where you can treat women like dirt. They are the ones who spoil it for the rest of us.
Those who appreciate the swinging scene properly enjoy getting to know people as real people in a club. And if anything else happens, it's all the more satisfying with a real person than just a masturbation toy.
I'm not keen on swingers clubs having paid workers for "massage". If that's what you want there are other types of establishment that provide it.

There are always people who don't know how to behave. mad

I think working girls in swinging clubs, unless off duty lol

, are fairly rare. We have only ever seen working girls paid for by a club once, and that was at a greedy girls night in a club in Amsterdam. They were the ones who chose when to play and who with. They could have been taken for ordinary greedy girls and it took us a while to work out what they were doing. rolleyes

There was definitely no "jump on jump off", the guys were very well behaved and seemed quite surprised to be chosen. It was possibly a better way of working than standing in a window for most of the night being gawped at like exhibits in the zoo. confused

7 Sep 2005

Quite agree with you bluexxx - if you keep the 2 types of business separate it sends the right message. I enjoy swinging when it's guys and gals genuinely wanting to enjoy each other's company (etc.....)

8 Sep 2005

sohrt posts hee hee
but seriously...i cannot consider myself experienced in this field after only going to a club twice....i was accompanied both times so it was cheaper to start with...plus i went to meet people more than anything and enjoyed both times i went...i looked around the place and found the atmosphere very relaxed...
i agree with bluexxx on the fact that i would not go to a club alone not only because of the entrance fee but also i have seen both sides of the single men attendees..the ones that walk round all night presumably looking for an invite and the ones that sit catitng and laughing it up with other patrons of the club...
ive never seen any 1 myself being pushy so to speak but i personally would feel a bit strange attending on my own...
PS i am going to a party on saturday on my own lol but this was an invite only occasion and i want to meet the people present...
oops....so much for short posts lol
dargento