god i really don't know why this thread is making my blood boil.
that someone feels a need to post anonymously through blue ffs? what's that all about??? i've been sat on a complete rant for hours, and refrained from posting it! labels? what's that doing here then ffs!
neil x x x ;-)
thank you corrie.
it is entirely the disgusted tone that disgusts me! and i'm gonna log out now so i can't post cos it makes me really bloody angry!
neil x x x ;-)
I have read this thread with much interest and have found myself sort of hicklety picklety about how i feel about it. I have decided to just write and allow you to make and draw your own conclusions.
Am i a female bi, or am i not. Right at this moment, no i'm not, if i was to go into the chatroom and a friend came in, then yes, i might be. I don't walk about the streets checking out the females cause usually i'm too interested in the males. My sexuality is forming and i hope that till the day i die, it will continue to form in whatever, shape or form.
Ideas that i initially THOUGHT repulsed me, were questioned when i was in a position to make them, not just a thought, but a reality. It then made me question the initial repulsion in the first place. If a mind is closed to a situation, or the mind shuts out possibilities to experience, of any description, not just sexual, then its quite sad really.
Not sad for the society, but sad for the individual, that they themselves have chosen to give up there own self power to the society within which it lives. A life expereince possiblity might never happen because of themselves.
Woman openly admit that they are bi, and are not chastised in any way by society, especially within the society of SH, and as some of you have said already, it is possitively encouraged. Positively encouraged by males, and agreed with by females, either bi or not.
We all have the right to be who the hell we want to be, to experience what we want, whenever we want without fear of ridicule or chastisement. That is an individuals right, not priviledge. If i want to be bi, i will be, if i don't, i won't. And because i have the above rights, i will choose when and if, i change my mind, and at what time i want.
Time never stands still, and the lives we had yesterday, are not the same as the ones we have today, so really what i am saying is, never close your minds off to anything at any time. Be as open to everything as you possibly can be.
As to those who feel that they have had to "admit" to something, i send you hugs and kisses, because your sexuality is your own business and feeling that your sharing experiences is an admission, and suggestive of a wrong doing, is just so beyond my comprehension.
I want to try everything, no boundaries. Only by being that way will i ever reach the point of knowing what i like, and what i don't. And providing I look after myself along the way, which is the responsible way of ensuring everyone's health and well being, then its my issue, and i would allow no one to intimidate or condemn me.
Condemnation is only possible from people with a closed mind, and effectively, there is no rationalising. But hey, thats cool too, that is there issue.!
Lots of love, hugs and kisses,
Little
XXX
As a Moderator I have to spend a lot of time checking out the ads that are posted on this site. This means I have to spend time in the Men seeking Men Category, which is not an area I would usually visit.
There are men in there offering to do all sorts of thing to each other. Some of them make me laugh and others make me cringe, but having said that I would fight for their right to do those things (so long as they are legal).
We are all individuals with differing likes and dislikes - and that's the way it should be.
I feel the need to make a mildly confessional post on this thread, please excuse me if I ramble a bit...
About 1% of my sexual experiences have been with men (and all those have been through SH). Stick a label that says 'bi' on me if you like, removing the optional 'curious' bit.
I've never kissed, hugged or had anal sex with a man. Peel the label off again, or replace the 'curious' bit if you like.
When the mood takes me, I like to have a big hard cock forced right down the back of my throat, and I love to be deep throated in that special way (that only comes from experience) that I've only ever had from other men. Stick the label back on if you like.
Gay (male) porn does nothing for me, and lesbian porn is all right but I often end up wishing one of the women would get out of the way so I can see the other one better.
I tried being on the giving end of anal sex once... (with a woman as happens), and the added tightness/tabooness (is that a word?) didn't outweigh the yuk factor of dealing with a shit-covered condom afterward. I'll only do it again if I'm convinced the other person *really* wants it. I've never tried recieving anal, and the thought of it doesn't really do much for me, if imagine a man or a woman with a strap on strap-on doing it doens't seem to make much difference to me.
Was I in a closet? Am I out of it now? You be the judge.
Having said all that, I wouldn't initiate anything with a man in a mmf situation, because I know it's got a fair chance of making the other guy uncomfortable... and to be brutally honest I'm probably going to be giving the woman all my attention. I don't answer the 'looking for a bi guy' adverts for that same reason... given a choice, I prefer women.
Well, that's that. If you've got a problem with what I wrote... then you've got a problem with it, not me :-)
Well this is the first time ive sat and read through this i find it such a shame that someone has to send a pm to Blue to then put it on here,no one should feel ashamed of theyre sexuality at all.
I personally am at the moment Bi curious,ive never tried anything more than a snog with another woman,so i have no idea whether ill enjoy doing anyhing more sexual or not until i try it.I find myself curious about a lot sexually,if im curious about something then i like to try it and see if i like it because there is really no other way of finding out.
I find the fact that some of the males on here have put that the thoughts of doing anything sexually with another man makes them feel sick insulting,and its comments like that,that prevent people such as Blue's friend posing exactly how they feel on here.
If Steve was to turn around and tell me that he was curious then i would be behind him 100%,theres so much out there that can be tried and it an awful shame if you miss out on something that you might really enjoy if your too scared to even try it in the first place.
I think that Bi or Bi curious females on here are more common place and that is why some people take it for granted that all females are!
If i was in a MMF situation or MMFF then i wouldnt be shocked or surprised to see one man touch another,or would it put me off,to be honest i actually find it quite a turn on from a personal point of view.I like to see someone enjoying themselves,how ever it is they wish to do so.
But i do agree with the opinion that theres certain things that you don't have to try to know that you won't like it,i myself wouldnt dream of watersports or anything along those lines!!
I hope that this has all come across how it was intended!!
Having got my confessional post out of the way, I'll try and come up with something that has a bit more substance...
We live in a society that doesn't approve of a lot of things. Here on SH, we pride ourselves on being an open minded bunch of people, partly because swinging is a (comparitively mild) in our society.
This highlights a clash between our collective ideological position of 'taboos are bad' and our personal preferences. It's easy to get morally offended that adverts that say no black men (or only black men) are racist, ones that say no bi-men are homophobic, and so on.
It's very easy to take a strong anti- position, and not realise all the implications that has. It's a natural instinct for a mildly opressed minority like us 'swingers' to jump in and hold a moral position that 'all kinds of consenual sexuality are good, and everyone should try everything at least once', but that's not a point of view that's actually defensible.
Somewhere along the line, *something* will make you go "eww!". I won't go into explicit details, since mixing up a sufficiently repulsive blend of necrophilia, s&m and besiality is simply flogging a dead horse :-)
Everyone does have their limits, and we have to learn to accept that - I'm tempted to pick out Scat (or 'Hardsports', call it what you will) as an example of something that even the most open-minded of us are going to hav a problem with, but I don't want to offend anyone who is into that. Pushing your limits can be a fun way of discovering new pleasures, or it can be a nasty way of becoming reaquainted with your last meal. I used to take great pride (use a capital P if you like) in proclaiming that all legal sex acts are good, and that my limits are broader than most people's, but now I'm much more neutral about it. I'm orally bi, but so what? I won't shove it down your throat - politically at least :-)
I implore people who attach the label 'curious' to themselves (concerning any legal sexual activity, not just 'bi' things) to go and satisfy their curiosity, because the pleasure gained from a lifetime of doing something you find you like outweighs the momentary displeasure of trying something you don't enjoy and not doing it again - and that's the whole of my moral position on the matter.
The problem with this is that no-one will go on the 'I like some things, you like some things, let's do anything that we both mutually like' Pride march, because it's not a particularly forceful proposition - hence I end up in some sort of ill-defined nowhere land between hetero and bi, and have to write essays instead of shagging, which I think I would be doing a lot more of if I fell into one of the more easily labeled categories. Oh well...
Having been watching this thread progress i feel i would like to say something.
When i first said to N i was curious about other women he jumped at the idea hence we decided to start swinging. Having been on another nameless sight we had a few meets but not much happened then we decided to join here still not much happened but the more we looked at the site the more we talked. I found i liked the idea of 2 men and spoke to N about it, he agreed he was curious and so we changed our add saying we were both bi-curious, but respected limits if we were to meet a bi fem couple. Needless to say since we changed our add the number of replies we get has dwindled (do straight blokes think he is going to jump on them!) We had a meet with a bi male and N received oral which he loved, he gave nothing in return but would in the right situation, but some things he would not wish to do.
Unless you try things you never know if you might enjoy them. Each to there own but dont judge others!
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