Hardcore swingers????

8 Feb 2005

Has anyone else noticed the amount of emails that they get saying â€œI / we are not hardcore swingersâ€? confused

What is that supposed to tell me? :shock:
Surely there is no set definition of â€œhard coreâ€ when it comes to swinging â€“ or is there???
I know that after discussing it with a number of people on this site that some people believe hardcore means full swap, whilst some people think it means people who have swinging as their full time hobby.
I have even spoken to people who think that it means someone who has been swinging for a long time.
Now personally I have a problem with all of these definitions , someone who has swung for a number of years might not have many meets so how does that make them more â€œhardcoreâ€ than someone who has double that amount every week.
Likewise someone who has regular fun might only do same room fun â€“ so how are they more â€œhardcoreâ€ than the people who go all the way?
Finally I have a problem with hardcore meaning people who only do full swap - I feel that this does not take into account all the different things that swinging involves.
my head is spinning now - help!
WBB
xxxxx

8 Feb 2005

I have always regarded the expression "we are not hardcore swingers" as couples wanting to point out that they are not the blasÃ©, bored, seen-it-all, done-it-all types, but that however long they have been swinging, they haven't lost their enthusiasm, imagination, and fresh approach to swinging. I'm not aware of it having any connection with what their limits are.
mike.

8 Feb 2005

Quote by MikeNorth
I have always regarded the expression "we are not hardcore swingers" as couples wanting to point out that they are not the blasÃ©, bored, seen-it-all, done-it-all types, but that however long they have been swinging, they haven't lost their enthusiasm, imagination, and fresh approach to swinging. I'm not aware of it having any connection with what their limits are.
mike.

But surely that would mean that the opposite â€“ ie someone who WAS a hardcore swinger would be bored of the lifestyle and fed up o it, so not really actively participating any more.
Does not make them sound very hardcore to me then! lol

8 Feb 2005

I always think that 'hardened swingers' expect a guaranteed performance, with little or no real social contact. So non hardened swingers are more sympathetic and wiling to deal with any problems if they occur.

8 Feb 2005

Maybe I'm confusing the term "hardcore swingers" with "hardened swingers" .... and maybe the people who haved use "hardcore swingers" are also confusing the terms. I'm not aware of "hardcore swingers" being a term that's used at all, so it's pretty pointless using it.
Mike.

8 Feb 2005

My view is that hardcore (hardened?) swingers is used to mean full swap and very frequent swinging.
The people who use hardcore in the sense of them not being hardcore seem to use it as a slightly derogatory term. They are presenting themselves as more discriminating and safer than hardcore people.
Happy to admit to being hardcore. lol

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8 Feb 2005

Quote by MikeNorth
Maybe I'm confusing the term "hardcore swingers" with "hardened swingers" .... and maybe the people who haved use "hardcore swingers" are also confusing the terms. I'm not aware of "hardcore swingers" being a term that's used at all, so it's pretty pointless using it.
Mike.

Maybe they are confusing it - but maybe not. confused

It IS a term that has been used in a number of emails to me - so i guess it must mean something to someone! .. just not us eh! lol lol

Even so, i feel the term hardened swingers still could do with some kind of clarification.

8 Feb 2005

Quote by northwest-cpl
My view is that hardcore (hardened?) swingers is used to mean full swap and very frequent swinging.
The people who use hardcore in the sense of them not being hardcore seem to use it as a slightly derogatory term. They are presenting themselves as more discriminating and safer than hardcore people.
Happy to admit to being hardcore. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree with the fact that they seem to use it as a â€œselling pointâ€.
The fact that they are not doing whatever it is that hardcore swingers do is supposed to make them more appealing!
If only I could figure out exactly what it is!
lol

8 Feb 2005

Quote by well_busty_babe
The fact that they are not doing whatever it is that hardcore swingers do is supposed to make them more appealing!
If only I could figure out exactly what it is!
lol

My impression is ...... Very Little.

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8 Feb 2005

I've always been a bit confused with the terminology of "hard" vs "soft" swinging. I've always concluded that soft swingers don't do penetrative sex, but that then seems to imply that hard swingers do do penetrative sex

:? :? .
Short answer - I don't know what hardened swingers are!
:? :? :?
But if I got the impression that people were saying they weren't hard swingers as a way to "sell themselves" I would be inclinded to ask them what they mean then watch them squirm when even they couldn't explain it wink

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9 Feb 2005

maybe is how ya swing
some like to swing in a small numbers ( 2 couples) other like the full on stuff.. (see blues party photos!!).
i wouldn't class myself as a hardcore swinger casue i dont beleive ive got the confidnece to do alot of the stuff
Jiggle

10 Feb 2005

Sounds to me like "Not Hardcore Swingers" is a pre-fabricated get-out clause, in case they feel like dipping out at any time. Not being hardcore, which for the purposes of the initial correspondence may well mean that they have to find an expression to justify notshagging everything in sight, er, like a "hardcore" swinger would :shock: As if such justification was really necessary.
Explination 2: Ever considered that you are getting e-mails from male partners whose female partners don't yet know about this, therefore again needing a get-out clause in case she is not committed to the cause?
I'd be inclined to treat such e-mails as "possible" meets rather than "probables" as they seem to me to be more curious about meeting you rather than interested in meeting you.
OMG :shock: What sort of an old cynic have I become? rolleyes

10 Feb 2005

I've never seen anyone describe themselves as 'hard core swingers' only as 'not hard core swingers'.
I guess it's maybe one of those obscure terms meaning 'swinging whilst enjoying hard core dance music'?
Personally I'm quite happy with hardcore, though prefer trance and garage.
I do find the volume a little intense though - hard to say 'have you got any condoms?' over DJ Tiesto at full blast . . . And do all hardcore swingers wave their hands in the air together in time? Or is that a secret signal to say ladies choice?

10 Feb 2005

Eureka - I've found it !!! (as Archimedes yelled, when he looked down into his bath)
"Hardcore" swinging is what they do in the town of Bedrock, with swingers like Barney Rubble and Fred Flintstone. It's obvious innit??? lol

10 Feb 2005

The phrase 'not hardcore swingers' raises a picture in my mind of someone who is still exploring and finding their boundaries.
lhk

10 Feb 2005

Quote by partyman
Sounds to me like "Not Hardcore Swingers" is a pre-fabricated get-out clause, in case they feel like dipping out at any time. Not being hardcore, which for the purposes of the initial correspondence may well mean that they have to find an expression to justify not shagging everything in sight, er, like a "hardcore" swinger would :shock: As if such justification was really necessary.
Explination 2: Ever considered that you are getting e-mails from male partners whose female partners don't yet know about this, therefore again needing a get-out clause in case she is not committed to the cause?
I'd be inclined to treat such e-mails as "possible" meets rather than "probables" as they seem to me to be more curious about meeting you rather than interested in meeting you.
OMG :shock: What sort of an old cynic have I become?

i tend to dissagree with this as the context that the phrase is used in the emails varies.. but is used a lot.
i get a lot of single guys emailing me using at as part of their.."pleeeeease meet me.. i am fab, here is a list of my atributes including "not a hardcore swinger", i also get lots of emails from couples who have used it to try and make them seem more appealing as a couple, ie, "we feel we may be what you are looking for as we are not hard core swingers". i personally dont feel it has anything to do with people being undecided. i tend to agree that it is something that people believe(mistakenly albeit) makes them look a better "catch".
all i have to establish is what it means exactly.

10 Feb 2005

Quote by KitKat
The phrase 'not hardcore swingers' raises a picture in my mind of someone who is still exploring and finding their boundaries.
lhk

that WOULD fit in with my ideas.. except for the number of couples i have had sending me messages who i KNOW to be weeeeeeeeeeeell more experienced and "done it all" than i am.
they STILL tend to use this phrase.
sigh.. can we not just ban the term!
lol

10 Feb 2005

FWIW we've never encountered the term hardcore but have had loads of emails informing us that they are not hardened take is that hardened may suggest that swinging is no big deal to them and that they are emotionally "hardened" to it all...this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some may want the fun without the risk of an emotional attachment which is also, arguably, a good selling point...yet we have never ever had anybody admit to being hardened.

10 Feb 2005

In my personal opinion it is used by people who are rather embarassed at the thought of being 'swingers' and who want to distance themselves from some of the negative stereotypes.
Roger the Dragon