Firefox and CrapCleaner is all you need.
Firefox and CrapCleaner is all you need.
hi, why not download "winclear" its a great prog to wipe out all recent activity. just tell hubby that its to help clear out the usual crap thats sent through the net. cheers Ray
Morals.
A word that gets bandied about so often in this sort of thread in an apparently self justifying way. According to society at large, none of us has morals, yet we are all ready to be outraged by tabloid reports of swinging activities, justifying our activities as moral. Are the continual attacks on married singles whistling in the dark? Their morals are worse than ours, so we must be ok?
This thread asked for help with a PC problem. The marital status of the poster had no bearing on the thread except as a reason for why the question was being asked. Why is there any need to criticise her situation, especially from a position of total ignorance? If you don't agree with her lifestyle ignore the thread. She wasn't asking for opinions on married swinging but how to clear history.
How quick is everyone to jump on the occasional evangelist that comes in here denouncing swingers as moralless perverts, telling them to take their personal views of morals and stick them. However some of these same people continually feel the need to criticise others whose moral standpoint is not quite the same as their's.
By all means have your own set of morals and stick to them. Just don't keep telling other people that their morals are wrong just because they are different to yours.
Excellent comment, Northwest-cpl. To my mind there is a clear distinction between those in here who ask for comments on aspects of their lives and those who don't.
I'm not going to add my opinion about the 'single married' here. But I would say that attacking someone for being honest about thier status is not going to encourage others to do the same. Just my opinion.
H.x
Just to say I wholeheartedly agree with the 4 previous posters.
keep the faith Jennywren, I understand completely. I am considered by some on this site to be a pariah but we are all different and have our own values.
PS you have a pm
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well
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ok.
first off i gave info to help after saying i wasn't comfy being party to the deception, because those were my personal feelings, however i realised that her choices are her choices and not for me to decide for anyone but myself... so with the instruction given i thought no more about it.
as rainbows and calista pointed out the man who was killed, i did have civil and lovely conversations with him. he knew it was my choice not to play with married folk whose partners knew nothing about it and we mutually respected each others play choices. didnt mean he was an ogre or someone without feelings nor reasons, but it was my choice with the info he bravely provided me with.
mutual respect for peopes decisions is key and treating them how you'd want to be treated yourself regardless of play choices. each to their own imho.
Jennywren_1
I am in the same situtation as you, married, some people on here are fine others are just argumentitive.
I am honest and open about things and get no luck on here, I want to keep it that way (being honest). Although if I lied Id probably get meets, Im a patient man and waiting for positive replys.
I was the guy that got the stick Staggy was talking about earlier. I am married to an A-sexual wife that I love very much. I would not leave her but I have needs. I was lucky as during an arguement I told her I would get it else where, to which she replied ok. She knows I 'go out', so I am lucky. Theres no dishonesty but there would have been except for that argument.
I dont get to post too much now due to work commitments but I just cant beleive the purile attitude that exists on here from time to time. Part of what I love about the community is that generally people dont judge others. Who are we to judge others? Do we live thier life do we know all the ins and out? No we dont so until youve walked a mile in others shoes dont critisize.
Its great if you manage to find a partner that likes to swing or even likes sex but thats few and far between otherwise all of the world would swing.
You only have one life so enjoy it how you want, dont let others tell you how to live your life. Jennywren You have a PM.
what i find sad, is that despite anyones personal opinions, somebody has felt the need to be nasty via PM - if that person is big enough to do that, let us all see, by posting in public
or is it a case that person doesnt want to be 'judged' to be considered a bad person, the very same thing that person is doing by sending the pm in the first place
whilst 'cheating' or similar actions might not sit well with some people, there are enough who feel strongly about it that they wont do it, there will always be cheaters, let them get on with it, if a person doesnt like it, dont hook up with a cheater
i have been cheated on, it hurt like hell, more than i would care to admit, if someone came to me, and i knew they were cheating, all i have to do is say no thank you, pontificating wont stop that persons behaviour, all it will do is shift the problem onto someone else
but i dont care, it wont be 'my problem'
I've watched this thread go from a genuine question on one subject to a stoning from others for something totally unconnected with what she was was asking.
Whatever your views on marrieds swinging without their partner's knowledge, they bear no relevance to the pc question being asked.
Next time I'm just going keep mouth shut!
I'd actually rather people did pm me telling me I'm spiteful and not nice than calling me on here .. as it was me that initally started this.
In my own way, tired though, I tried to point out that hiding "cheating" doesn't work. My opinions, however, being different obviously aren't allowed and I'm not entitled to voice them. I didn't impose my morals on anyone, I simply voiced my concerns.
To all the people who asked if it was me pming Jennywren .. the answer is no! I am brave enough to voice my comments out on the forum and find it despicable that anyone would do such a thing. Jennywren, please do report them, as much as I dislike "cheating", I dislike cowardice and such behaviour even more. And to the people whom I considered as friends, to think that of me is as bad.
I'm actually going to take time out of the forum for now.