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I feel a bit guilty putting two threads up within an hour of each other but I always lie in bed wondering of these "thread subjects" Plus I'm a bit bored Mr C is watching the golf *yawn*
Anyway, I read about these threads that talk about politics, things that have happened in the past and all that kinda thing. I think to myself "I know nothing about that". With Mr C being a bit older then me, and more life experience, i ask him about things and he educates me about a lot of things. I've just learnt about what a recession is and ask him stuff that I don't understand what people have posted.
I watch the news a lot more these days than what I used to and hardly ever understand what's happening and why it's happening. I pay attention but lose concentration as I don't understand what's happening. Like all this coverage about Mugabe.
So the question is, how do u learn? Do you read the papers? But if they talk about things in the papers, how do u know what things are and how do u make connections?
People who have met me know I know very little about things and meanings of words, but I often put it down to that the person is older than me....but then it gets embarrasing when Tan knows stuff I don't
Miss Cream xxx
Ah there it is! lol
For me it's been life experience to date. I'm heading towards 40 and have learnt a lot from personal experience about life and how to survive day to day.
On an educational note, I've learnt more in the past 2 years than I have in donkeys. I've done this via the internet, documentaries, reading but my preferred source is documentaries, I take more in that way.
The trouble with using the media to learn is that you always get a very one sided version. If you're anything like me, then you take that biased version as gospel and become quite blinkered to the story.
It's only when someone else comes along with a different side to the story - different previously not mention facts, that you get a more balanced view.
I've just come out of the Gurkhas thread - I was ranting to someone in real life about the problem and they gave a totally different side to the story, with stuff in that I hadn't thought about........ unfortunately, I didn't bluddy learn it and have totally forgotten what they said, which is bugging me now evil But they had some fab points, not that it made it right, it was just a different view.
I've learned a lot on here with the more topical threads and peoples views - if you can read between bickering, you can pick up a lot of different angles on a subject I think biggrin
Mind you - I'm not exactly a sponge when it comes to information, and most of it I forget within minutes rolleyes Wish I didn't cos would be dead clever then, unfortunately my brain is at capacity with other stuff - like how do you wash and dry a bunch of grapes, what to do with the mouse the cat brought in, an aircraft carrier does 6 inches to the gallon, and other complete worthless tripe :undecided:
I think a good point to start with is a willingness to want to know. As a younger than 28 person, I used to think that when entering University it was a cop out for older learners to be given points for 'life experience' Nowadays I think its a reasonable to award this.
Although i see the obvious necessity, the saying 'education is wasted on the young' s does have get me nodding and smiling in agreement. We never stop learning if we are still asking questions of ourselves and others. As to the answers thats again up to each individual to make sense of it a person we trust and admire may have a bearing on how we accept their knowledge as we do with those skilled in something. I just wish I could settle down and learn something specific well enough to be good at it.
I must admit I do wonder myself at these people who are so learned about stuff.
Interesting subject :thumbup:
Quote by creampie123
I feel a bit guilty putting two threads up within an hour of each other but I always lie in bed wondering of these "thread subjects" Plus I'm a bit bored Mr C is watching the golf *yawn*
Anyway, I read about these threads that talk about politics, things that have happened in the past and all that kinda thing. I think to myself "I know nothing about that". With Mr C being a bit older then me, and more life experience, i ask him about things and he educates me about a lot of things. I've just learnt about what a recession is and ask him stuff that I don't understand what people have posted.
I watch the news a lot more these days than what I used to and hardly ever understand what's happening and why it's happening. I pay attention but lose concentration as I don't understand what's happening. Like all this coverage about Mugabe.
So the question is, how do u learn? Do you read the papers? But if they talk about things in the papers, how do u know what things are and how do u make connections?
People who have met me know I know very little about things and meanings of words, but I often put it down to that the person is older than me....but then it gets embarrasing when Tan knows stuff I don't
Miss Cream xxx

Come and join me! ...I am over here in the dimwits corner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lol
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I think a good point to start with is a willingness to want to know. As a younger than 28 person, I used to think that when entering University it was a cop out for older learners to be given points for 'life experience' Nowadays I think its a reasonable to award this.
Although i see the obvious necessity, the saying 'education is wasted on the young' s does have get me nodding and smiling in agreement. We never stop learning if we are still asking questions of ourselves and others. As to the answers thats again up to each individual to make sense of it a person we trust and admire may have a bearing on how we accept their knowledge as we do with those skilled in something. I just wish I could settle down and learn something specific well enough to be good at it.
I must admit I do wonder myself at these people who are so learned about stuff.
Interesting subject :thumbup:

Exactly! It's only the past year say, I've wanted to know more about life and now understand that saying that goes along the lines of "what happened in the past is what makes todays world", or something. At school, I hated History. I didn't understand it, I wasn't bothered about what happened in the past - what was the point, it's happened? That was what I USED to think.
You do find people know so so much about a subject and use so many big words and I'm thinking "How do they know all this?"
I think it was Mar who said watches documentaries. I did used to but unlike Hibernian, I'm a sieve instead of a sponge. It's annoying I just cannot take it in confused I mean, we even got a few issues of some paper lke the Financial Times for me to read about stuff. It was really good cos it expalined what stuff meant so when u went to read the article, u thought "Aaaaahhhhh, so that's what it means so that's why that happened".
But keep your thoughts and experiences coming! :thumbup:
Miss Cream xxx
The trouble with using the media to learn is that you always get a very one sided version. If you're anything like me, then you take that biased version as gospel and become quite blinkered to the story.
It's only when someone else comes along with a different side to the story - different previously not mention facts, that you get a more balanced view.
I've just come out of the Gurkhas thread - I was ranting to someone in real life about the problem and they gave a totally different side to the story, with stuff in that I hadn't thought about........ unfortunately, I didn't bluddy learn it and have totally forgotten what they said, which is bugging me now evil But they had some fab points, not that it made it right, it was just a different view.
I've learned a lot on here with the more topical threads and peoples views - if you can read between bickering, you can pick up a lot of different angles on a subject I think biggrin
Mind you - I'm not exactly a sponge when it comes to information, and most of it I forget within minutes rolleyes Wish I didn't cos would be dead clever then, unfortunately my brain is at capacity with other stuff - like how do you wash and dry a bunch of grapes, what to do with the mouse the cat brought in, an aircraft carrier does 6 inches to the gallon, and other complete worthless tripe :undecided:
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: I'm killing myself laughing here, I'm so sorry, but I really can't help it lol Ur so brill!
Yeah, ur like me, I forget everything I learn about confused
That is true what u said about getting other viewpoints to develop ur own non-biased viewpoint. I did read about that Gurkah post but all I know is they fought in a war and wear light grey suits....they do in Darlington anyway :lol:
Personally I've always gone along with the learn what you need to know when you need to know it principle. The rest of the stuff is just absorbed along the way. That could just be the way my brain is wired as I never responded well to formal education.
Up until, say my mid 30s I was interested in what was going on around me, politics, education, and just life in general but as I've got older and my cynicism deeper I've taken less and less interest in things that I couldn't alter and just ended up either frustrating me or pissing me off. Now I just observe and take interest in things that directly affect me.
As for learning, well you'll do that everyday without even thinking about. As the old saying goes, see what you know already, just imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
In spite of my blinkered outlook I still learn new things every day, so just imagine how much you'll absorb with your desire to see everything and learn as much as you can. Don't force it and you'll learn anyway!
I was joking with my first post here!
This might help you understand where that come from!
www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/285592.html
If you are talking about academic type education I didn’t learn very much at school, I have done my learning in my adulthood. I still find certain subjects hard to comprehend but I would always ask different people what they think to make up my own views on something.
I think we all have a basis of knowledge, and life’s experiences and talking can expand on the already acquired bit that we have. There are different ways to broaden knowledge; I for one have never felt that newspapers are a good source of knowledge as all reporters are individual people so it would be their view of a situation or story.
All there can do it give you a topic for discussion, but I would never believe what the newspapers say.
Documentaries are good, reading forums too are a good source of broadening your views as you can ask questions as you have and get responses from different people.
I believe talking is the best way to learn and always question and keep you mind open and question.
Eee I never saw that thread before Minxy hun lol Sorry, i was supposed to reply to what u said before about the dimwit's corner, I'll be happy to keep u company and join u :lol:
My daughter is 10 and watches newsround on telly in the mornings before school. I find it really good because they explain things really well without talking down to you. Its worth a look because they dont automatically expect the viewer to know who they are talking about so they do explain as they go along.
Google and wickipedia are good too as you can put in anything and get a description. Some ppeople learn better by listening than reading so listen to radio or pdcasts might help x
Quote by creampie123
I feel a bit guilty putting two threads up within an hour of each other but I always lie in bed wondering of these "thread subjects" Plus I'm a bit bored Mr C is watching the golf *yawn*
Anyway, I read about these threads that talk about politics, things that have happened in the past and all that kinda thing. I think to myself "I know nothing about that". With Mr C being a bit older then me, and more life experience, i ask him about things and he educates me about a lot of things. I've just learnt about what a recession is and ask him stuff that I don't understand what people have posted.
I watch the news a lot more these days than what I used to and hardly ever understand what's happening and why it's happening. I pay attention but lose concentration as I don't understand what's happening. Like all this coverage about Mugabe.
So the question is, how do u learn? Do you read the papers? But if they talk about things in the papers, how do u know what things are and how do u make connections?
People who have met me know I know very little about things and meanings of words, but I often put it down to that the person is older than me....but then it gets embarrasing when Tan knows stuff I don't

Miss Cream xxx

Oh creamypoo i wish this was the case, I dont understand politics one iota i am actually very thick confused really i am, but it all comes down to nature and nuture and each persons life experiences, oh and i hate watching the news because most of it is either depressing or things i dont understand.
Oh and you know/understand the off side rule something i will never even attempt to understand wink I couldnt ever dream of going to uni like you have so why get embarrassed, I know stuff, you know stuff just because we know different stuff doesnt mean anything at all kiss
Joins minxy in dimwits corner bolt
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I feel a bit guilty putting two threads up within an hour of each other but I always lie in bed wondering of these "thread subjects" Plus I'm a bit bored Mr C is watching the golf *yawn*
Anyway, I read about these threads that talk about politics, things that have happened in the past and all that kinda thing. I think to myself "I know nothing about that". With Mr C being a bit older then me, and more life experience, i ask him about things and he educates me about a lot of things. I've just learnt about what a recession is and ask him stuff that I don't understand what people have posted.
I watch the news a lot more these days than what I used to and hardly ever understand what's happening and why it's happening. I pay attention but lose concentration as I don't understand what's happening. Like all this coverage about Mugabe.
So the question is, how do u learn? Do you read the papers? But if they talk about things in the papers, how do u know what things are and how do u make connections?
People who have met me know I know very little about things and meanings of words, but I often put it down to that the person is older than me....but then it gets embarrasing when Tan knows stuff I don't

Miss Cream xxx

Oh creamypoo i wish this was the case, I dont understand politics one iota i am actually very thick confused really i am, but it all comes down to nature and nuture and each persons life experiences, oh and i hate watching the news because most of it is either depressing or things i dont understand.
Oh and you know/understand the off side rule something i will never even attempt to understand wink I couldnt ever dream of going to uni like you have so why get embarrassed, I know stuff,you know stuff just because we know different stuff doesnt mean anything at all kiss
Joins minxy in dimwits corner bolt
U know what, that is soooooo true! I've never thought of it that way. is that lateral thinking? lol
In edit: I read that wrong redface i thought u meant: u know stuff, I know stuff but doesn't mean we don't know anything at all. if that makes sense?
Quote by creampie123
I feel a bit guilty putting two threads up within an hour of each other but I always lie in bed wondering of these "thread subjects" Plus I'm a bit bored Mr C is watching the golf *yawn*
Anyway, I read about these threads that talk about politics, things that have happened in the past and all that kinda thing. I think to myself "I know nothing about that". With Mr C being a bit older then me, and more life experience, i ask him about things and he educates me about a lot of things. I've just learnt about what a recession is and ask him stuff that I don't understand what people have posted.
I watch the news a lot more these days than what I used to and hardly ever understand what's happening and why it's happening. I pay attention but lose concentration as I don't understand what's happening. Like all this coverage about Mugabe.
So the question is, how do u learn? Do you read the papers? But if they talk about things in the papers, how do u know what things are and how do u make connections?
People who have met me know I know very little about things and meanings of words, but I often put it down to that the person is older than me....but then it gets embarrasing when Tan knows stuff I don't

Miss Cream xxx

Oh creamypoo i wish this was the case, I dont understand politics one iota i am actually very thick confused really i am, but it all comes down to nature and nuture and each persons life experiences, oh and i hate watching the news because most of it is either depressing or things i dont understand.
Oh and you know/understand the off side rule something i will never even attempt to understand wink I couldnt ever dream of going to uni like you have so why get embarrassed, I know stuff,you know stuff just because we know different stuff doesnt mean anything at all kiss
Joins minxy in dimwits corner bolt
U know what, that is soooooo true! I've never thought of it that way. is that lateral thinking? lol
In edit: I read that wrong redface i thought u meant: u know stuff, I know stuff but doesn't mean we don't know anything at all. if that makes sense?
Sure does! makes perfect sense, but it is what makes us all different
And your way actually sounds better :lol:
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My daughter is 10 and watches newsround on telly in the mornings before school. I find it really good because they explain things really well without talking down to you. Its worth a look because they dont automatically expect the viewer to know who they are talking about so they do explain as they go along.
Google and wickipedia are good too as you can put in anything and get a description. Some ppeople learn better by listening than reading so listen to radio or pdcasts might help x

I must admit, I have watched newsround in the past and picked up things from that which I never would have from the other news programmes.
Last year, my Uni Lecturer told me not to ever ever reference using 'wikopedia'. He said it was like Jackanory and ANYONE could put their thoughts there and not a bit of it could be true.
Does anyone know if this is true or not or was it just him trying to get us to use more :sleeping: zzzzzzz 'Journals'.
Quote by jaymar
Last year, my Uni Lecturer told me not to ever ever reference using 'wikopedia'. He said it was like Jackanory and ANYONE could put their thoughts there and not a bit of it could be true.
Does anyone know if this is true or not or was it just him trying to get us to use more :sleeping: zzzzzzz 'Journals'.

Yup, completely true. Some stuff gets verified, some doesn't. A lot of times it's accurate work posted by someone with an interest......
....but if you were so inclined, you could make up a story about the Eiffel Tower being made of Spaghetti.
Quote by jaymar
Last year, my Uni Lecturer told me not to ever ever reference using 'wikopedia'. He said it was like Jackanory and ANYONE could put their thoughts there and not a bit of it could be true.
Does anyone know if this is true or not or was it just him trying to get us to use more :sleeping: zzzzzzz 'Journals'.

We got a very similar lecture about not relying on information gained from wikipedia. The message we were given is that most of the info is ok and is factually correct, but not all of it. Remember the wiki bit just stands for 'what I know is' so just cause 'I know' doesnt make it correct. We also got a stern warning that we would possibly lose marks if we did reference wikipedia so I take the safe way and stick to the known journals rolleyes
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....but if you were so inclined, you could make up a story about the Eiffel Tower being made of Spaghetti.

Its made of tagliatelli :smug:
Quote by jaymar
Last year, my Uni Lecturer told me not to ever ever reference using 'wikopedia'. He said it was like Jackanory and ANYONE could put their thoughts there and not a bit of it could be true.
Does anyone know if this is true or not or was it just him trying to get us to use more :sleeping: zzzzzzz 'Journals'.

It all depends one what you are researching, a lot is correct, though you'll find that is limited to 'serious' topics.
Although all Wikipedia entries are supposed to be verified by independent 3rd party references not all of them are. Any obvious errors or false information is usually caught and corrected quite quickly. It only sneaks through on niche subjects which is edited by only one or two editors.
I speak as a regular WP editor since 2003.
The other thing to beware of with WP is that it was never intended to be the 'truth', its core tenet is that information in WP is only a record of what others have said/postulated/discovered etc, it is not a source of original thought.
I tend to use WP as a basic aide memoire then use what I've seen WP as a springboard to other sources and as search terms.
All in all though I'm sceptical about pretty much any source of info on the net whether it's WP or anywhere else. For the important stuff I always end up at the library using good old-fashioned books.
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And the guy who started it isn't exactly mr "honourable", remember him recent;y selling all his ex's stuff on ebay? Including her worn clothes?

I'm not sure what relevance that has. Jimbo does very little editing per se and actually has very little control these days.
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....but if you were so inclined, you could make up a story about the Eiffel Tower being made of Spaghetti.

Or that Vernon Kay had died in a boating accident rolleyes
I pick up a fair bit because I read exhaustively. I will read anything and everything I can get my hands on although I don't always retain a lot and take anything from current affairs/politics etc with a big dose of salt.