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Quote by meat2pleaseu

Actually Champ, you've come to the right place :thumbup: the ladies( :giggle: ) on here are a bit fridgid at first glance, but wait till they've had a shandy or two and they turn into a bunch of hormonal sex crazy trollops.

:eeek: smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: I'll have you know it takes at least 3 shandies before I turn into a raving nympho ! drinkies
is that small or large shandies (not that im taking notes for later :twisted: )
I'm just a raving nympho with or without shandy and you've still not shagged me... what am I doing wrong??? :shock: sad
lol
Gem. x - in mingers corner! ;) biggrin
I'm still waiting for my invite to Gems boudouir of pleasure :rascal:
or shall we try to sneak back into room 307?
Or Room 23........ :shock:
Quote by PLUM

Actually Champ, you've come to the right place :thumbup: the ladies( :giggle: ) on here are a bit fridgid at first glance, but wait till they've had a shandy or two and they turn into a bunch of hormonal sex crazy trollops.

:eeek: smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: I'll have you know it takes at least 3 shandies before I turn into a raving nympho ! drinkies
is that small or large shandies (not that im taking notes for later :twisted: )
I'm just a raving nympho with or without shandy and you've still not shagged me... what am I doing wrong??? :shock: sad
lol
Gem. x - in mingers corner! ;) biggrin
I'm still waiting for my invite to Gems boudouir of pleasure :rascal:
or shall we try to sneak back into room 307?
Or Room 23........ :shock:
Room 23???? was that like room 405?
Quote by meat2pleaseu
Room 23???? was that like room 405?

I dont know what happened in 405.....but it was a real eye opener for me and a few others that were in there....... :shock:
I cant say any more *looks over shoulder* Ive said too much as it is.......
*Runs to try to hide.....*
bolt
in which case 23 is more 307 than 405
but i will be hassling you for details next time i find you drunk biggrin
There's loadsssssssss of genuine people on here, I know i have met a few lol
Just takes a little patients and to get to know a few people
Have fun
Shaz xx
P.S welcome to swinging heaven x
Quote by PoloLady
Define ‘genuine’ ?
If you mean ’genuine’ as an adjective: i.e. are they genetically of that gender - yes, there are genuine women and couples (as in male and female pairings) on this site. Under this definition, there are a few women you would want to actually see the test results as proof (rough as fuck - you’d think they pissed standing -up, if you get my drift).
If you mean the other definition of ‘genuine’ as a noun : i.e. gagging for it in a state of desperation - yes, here are some of this type of ‘genuine’ women and couples on this site also. However, they are more difficult to find - unless you don’t mind the really dodgy mingers.
The difficulty lies in the fact there are more ‘genuine’ males (whether single or just pretending) of both definitions than there are women and couples put together. So even the really ugly fuckers can be far more selective in choosing single males than people in a ‘vanilla’ setting. Hence, if you are an ugly fucker or even only just bordering on the county of Mingershire - you have no chance whatsoever.
So, if you thought this was an easy way to get some juice off, you will be sadly disappointed.
I do have some advice to greatly improve your chances …..
Grow tits, have a snip ‘n’ tuck job, change your name to Tiffany and post some pics of your nips being tweaked. The offers will soon come flooding in!
wink

PoloLady........... :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
by genuine, do you mean people who actually turn up when they say they will? Do you mean guys who are honest in thier profile and think you wont notice that they're 5'6" not 6'2"? Who idea of athletic is wearing trainers? Yet to meet any, but the people here on the forum seem 'genuine', which is a bit of a relief, I was very close to giving the site a miss myself. Jaded, me? Whatever gave you that idea?
Quote by natandh
by genuine, do you mean people who actually turn up when they say they will? Do you mean guys who are honest in thier profile and think you wont notice that they're 5'6" not 6'2"? Who idea of athletic is wearing trainers? Yet to meet any, but the people here on the forum seem 'genuine', which is a bit of a relief, I was very close to giving the site a miss myself. Jaded, me? Whatever gave you that idea?

which is why munches are the best way to meet people, it's like window shopping before you buy
Quote by meat2pleaseu
by genuine, do you mean people who actually turn up when they say they will? Do you mean guys who are honest in thier profile and think you wont notice that they're 5'6" not 6'2"? Who idea of athletic is wearing trainers? Yet to meet any, but the people here on the forum seem 'genuine', which is a bit of a relief, I was very close to giving the site a miss myself. Jaded, me? Whatever gave you that idea?

which is why munches are the best way to meet people, it's like window shopping before you buy
Not according to a recent survey wink
Can you buy things at munches????????????
Do you buy one get one free????????????
Meaty............. lol
Genuine, hmmm.
There are a few people who are fairly normal, open about what they do, yes.
And for every one of them, there are a thousand who have never swung, been dogging, or maybe even ventured past the missionary position. For a site of over 400k people, the majority of the forum posts and adverts some from a small minority.
Frankly, as a single guy, it's damnedx near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.
It's tough, the odds are crap, and it's a buyers market - good luck (you'll need it !)
Tony
PS. Don't give up if you are really looking for something though ....... it took Colonel Sanders 2 years and 2000 visits before someone bought his KFC recipe. It might take you just as long !
Quote by Sarah
Can you buy things at munches????????????
Do you buy one get one free????????????
Meaty............. lol

yes, you can buy me a drink (not sure if they'll give you a free one though)
Frankly, as a single guy, it's damned near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.

i could NOT disagree more! i kind of get what you are saying . . . i just think you're wrong?
people will take you exactly as you are, if you give them the opportunity to get to know you, exactly as you are. it's not vetting. you don't have to jump through hoops. it's the same process we use in real life to establish friendships in the vanilla world. no more, no less.
i have no attributes that aren't shared by every other guy on the planet. i'm not unbearably handsome, i'm far from being sex on a stick, i'm skinny as a rake, i am strictly average in ALL departments . . . in fact when i joined this site i thought i was crap in bed as well, and had little confidence whatsoever . . . but these days i could tell stories that 2 years ago would have made MY hair curl! lol
there really is no trick to it!
neil x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds
i'm far from being sex on a stick

That's just your opinion wink but stick a broom handle up your bum and you'll be a whole lot closer :wink: :twisted:
Quote by Sarah
Can you buy things at munches????????????
Do you buy one get one free????????????
Meaty............. lol

The only things I've ever bought at Munches are HUGE hangovers that have always been fartoo big to fit into my head and tend to spill over into the reast of my body :shock:
I am soooooooooo notlooking forward to 9 April wink
Quote by neilinleeds
Frankly, as a single guy, it's damned near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.

i could NOT disagree more! i kind of get what you are saying . . . i just think you're wrong?
people will take you exactly as you are, if you give them the opportunity to get to know you, exactly as you are. it's not vetting. you don't have to jump through hoops. it's the same process we use in real life to establish friendships in the vanilla world. no more, no less.
i have no attributes that aren't shared by every other guy on the planet. i'm not unbearably handsome, i'm far from being sex on a stick, i'm skinny as a rake, i am strictly average in ALL departments . . . in fact when i joined this site i thought i was crap in bed as well, and had little confidence whatsoever . . . but these days i could tell stories that 2 years ago would have made MY hair curl! lol
there really is no trick to it!
neil x x x ;)
I was hoping you'd pop up to reply to that cos it's saved me a job disagreeing with him. smile TThanks honeybunch! passionkiss And I think youre bloody gorgeous! ;) :twisted: redface
I can think of several single guys on this site that also prove the exception the stated rule! biggrin Its all about attitude and what youre willing to put in as to what you get out of things, imho. Of course you can always strike lucky too.
Ive wasted a few people time in my time being here through various reasons, mind changes, opinion changes, status changes, feelings change, a whole host of variables that lead to calling something of..... so as Polo said... define genuine. dunno
kiss Gem . x
Well however hard it is to meet 'genuine' people - it is still a darn sight easier than trying to meet alien life!
Unless you live in some back-water American state where spaceships land every 30 minutes on some out in the sticks hick farm, abduct the state idiot and conduct anal-probes.
Am I drifting off of the subject now confused
Quote by PoloLady
Well however hard it is to meet 'genuine' people - it is still a darn sight easier than trying to meet alien life!
Unless you live in some back-water American state where spaceships land every 30 minutes on some out in the sticks hick farm, abduct the state idiot and conduct anal-probes.
Am I drifting off of the subject now confused

Just a little maybe ?
Quote by little gem
I can think of several single guys on this site that also prove the exception the stated rule!

That was my point - how many members of this site are single males ?
You said you know several. What I'm saying is that statistically, the chances are MUCH slimmer unless 'accepted'. To qualify what I mean by accepted, I don't expect that anyone should jump through hoops, but anyone who would just read a post and think - OK, lets go meet them would be crazy - they could be just about anyone.
Neil, you said it's not vetting, but it is - even in 'real' life, we all vet the people we meet, otherwise, surely everyone would be friends with everyone else, and that really isn't the case. I don't mean by this that there are any standards being applied, but tastes or preferences.
I also believe that people take you 'how they perceive you to be'rather than who you really are.
Quote by marriedmale
... the chances are MUCH slimmer unless 'accepted'.

Accepted by who?
....by whoever you are trying to meet.
As a single guy, I take that to be a couple, single female, group, single male, whatever.
e.g. A couple wish to meet a single guy.
If there are 1000 couples and 300,000 single males, and all of the single males are considered equal, then they have a 1 in 3000 chance of being 'picked'.
Now but using whatever 'selection criteria' (read 'acceptance') they may choose from a pool of 50 males.
That's a BIG difference ! (600 times different).
That's the point I'm making.
Quote by neilinleeds
i have no attributes that aren't shared by every other guy on the planet. i'm not unbearably handsome, i'm far from being sex on a stick, i'm skinny as a rake, i am strictly average in ALL departments . . . there really is no trick to it!

oi, speak for yourself neilvaguelynorthsomewhereofnofixedaddress :boxing:
i am unbearably handsome (thats why the ladies have to run away bolt )
i'm most certainly sex on a stick (someone said i looked like i been hit with one, think they meant the sexy stick smackbottom )
i have a godlike body (some bloke called Buddah dunno )
and theres no way im average (the world doesn't deserve 2 of me, apparently :grin: )
and there really is a trick, but they'd revoke my membership if i told everyone
so thats you told flipa
Wow didn't expect such a response to my thread! but thanks anyways for all your advice will take it on bord or as much as i can remeber! Hope to be accpeted into the swinging circle soon. and also keen to introduce my girlfriend to it too, so any advice on how to broach the subject with her would be welcomed! although changing my profile will cost me ! perhapd should of registered as a couple first but was jus trying to be honest!
Quote by champion07
Wow didn't expect such a response to my thread! but thanks anyways for all your advice will take it on bord or as much as i can remeber! Hope to be accpeted into the swinging circle soon. and also keen to introduce my girlfriend to it too, so any advice on how to broach the subject with her would be welcomed! although changing my profile will cost me ! perhapd should of registered as a couple first but was jus trying to be honest!

Thanks for the honesty with us - I hope one day your girlfriend will deserve the same due respect. wink
Quote by marriedmale
....by whoever you are trying to meet.
As a single guy, I take that to be a couple, single female, group, single male, whatever.
.

I hate to be a stickler.............. well I don't actually! BUT, if that is what and who you mean by "accepted" .... that you need to be accepted by the person/couple you are trying to meet....
Quote by marriedmale
That was my point - how many members of this site are single males ?
You said you know several. What I'm saying is that statistically, the chances are MUCH slimmer unless 'accepted'.

I think that bit should be edited to...
the chances are fucking non-existant unless 'accepted'
After all what couple or single is going to meet anyone who doesn't meet their criteria or in other words doesn't accept you?
I am glad you clarified it though - I took it to mean you were suggesting acceptance by the forum.
Quote by PoloLady
I am glad you clarified it though - I took it to mean you were suggesting acceptance by the forum.

Oh no !!!!
The forum is what it is - a forum, and I sincerely hope it remains that way (management take note !) - as free expression is incredibly important. I'm not sure how it will balance with 'economic' factors (I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one).
Also, I think you're a little more direct than I am !
Quote by PoloLady
I think that bit should be edited to...
the chances are fucking non-existant unless 'accepted'

I'm still chuckling about that ....... I wish you'd just say what you mean instead of beating around the bush (no pun intended !)
Quote by marriedmale
I wish you'd just say what you mean instead of beating around the bush (no pun intended !)

Yes - I think I need to be a little more assertive - I am just a softie push-over and people do take advantage wink
Quote by champion07
hey everyone! i've only been a member on here for a few weeks but one thing has struk me. its really hard to find genuine women/couples! Granted i guess it could jus be me but lets hope not! im a 21 year old lad jus looking for genuine couples/women to have fun with. is it really that hard??!!

Well we've met quite a few nice, genuine people here and elsewhere. Of course there are people you don't get on with or whatever but that's true in any social situation isn't it.
Quote by neilinleeds
Frankly, as a single guy, it's damned near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.

i could NOT disagree more! i kind of get what you are saying . . . i just think you're wrong?
people will take you exactly as you are, if you give them the opportunity to get to know you, exactly as you are. it's not vetting. you don't have to jump through hoops. it's the same process we use in real life to establish friendships in the vanilla world. no more, no less.
i have no attributes that aren't shared by every other guy on the planet. i'm not unbearably handsome, i'm far from being sex on a stick, i'm skinny as a rake, i am strictly average in ALL departments . . . in fact when i joined this site i thought i was crap in bed as well, and had little confidence whatsoever . . . but these days i could tell stories that 2 years ago would have made MY hair curl! lol
there really is no trick to it!
neil x x x ;)
Other than the fact that you are a truly decent bloke you mean???
Just like a lot of the (I hate to use the term) "Single Males" on here.
Quote by little gem
I was hoping you'd pop up to reply to that cos it's saved me a job disagreeing with him. smile TThanks honeybunch! passionkiss And I think youre bloody gorgeous! ;) :twisted: redface
kiss Gem . x

Nah, I've seen him........his description was better!!!
Can I be a "genuine" married male?????
Is there really such a thing??
Confused in Glasgow confused
Quote by marriedmale
Frankly, as a single guy, it's damnedx near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.
It's tough, the odds are crap, and it's a buyers market - good luck (you'll need it !)
Tony
PS. Don't give up if you are really looking for something though ....... it took Colonel Sanders 2 years and 2000 visits before someone bought his KFC recipe. It might take you just as long !

no offence... your "experience" is then very different from mine.... confused :? :? but hey.. maybe it is because i have been here for longer.. and taken my time to get to know people... after all rome wasn't built in a day......
i have had and am still having a blast..... i am learning more about new people i have just started talking to, and old friends that i have know since my first post on here almost 2 yrs ago......and enjoying socialising with these people and if anything else happens then that is a bonus
maybe the above that you worte says more about you and your impression of swinging that is does about the people you are wanting to swing with.......
sean
Quote by fabio grooverider

Frankly, as a single guy, it's damnedx near impossible to gain acceptance into a group of truly genuine swingers / doggers or any other 'specialist' group, because they don't know who you are, and therefore cannot trust you. I speak from experience.
Sure there seem to be a few decent people here, but in reality, the chances of you meeting someone for a shag are marginal UNLESS you are willing to be vetted by whatever means the group you are trying to join stipulates.
It's tough, the odds are crap, and it's a buyers market - good luck (you'll need it !)
Tony
PS. Don't give up if you are really looking for something though ....... it took Colonel Sanders 2 years and 2000 visits before someone bought his KFC recipe. It might take you just as long !

no offence... your "experience" is then very different from mine.... confused :? :? but hey.. maybe it is because i have been here for longer.. and taken my time to get to know people... after all rome wasn't built in a day......
No offence but - is it not because you are a regular forum user and munch goer - hence the bias towards the norm for this minority group. His first statement is certainly accurate if you are trying to get into the private party scene - well the larger well organised ones anyway.
Quote by fabio grooverider
i have had and am still having a blast..... i am learning more about new people i have just started talking to, and old friends that i have know since my first post on here almost 2 yrs ago......and enjoying socialising with these people and if anything else happens then that is a bonus

Waiting for a bonus to come along may be alright for the happy socialisers - but a considerable number of swingers away from the forum actually like to ... erm... swing - in the sexual sense! Again - the way of the cafe is not the only way and your way will not be seen as having a blast to everyone.
Quote by fabio grooverider
maybe the above that you worte says more about you and your impression of swinging that is does about the people you are wanting to swing with.......
sean

Or may be he has just had different experiences dunno
I usually speak from my own experience, but sometimes that also includes the things I know and have seen in other areas of swinging away from SH. From the guys I know who have found their way into the swinging life-style - without ever attending a munch, posting on a web site forum or in some cases ever setting a cyber-foot on a swinging website.
They are not sitting around waiting for a bonus to be thrown their way - they are having fun (actual sex that is) on a very regular basis with both people they also socialise with and people they don't. Mind you I have to admit none of them are ugly smelly fuck-pigs - but they are average guys.
The problem with asking advice on a forum or making a statement as this guy did is... you will get the insular view of the forum users as the majority of replies and vary rarely any differing veiws to add a balance. It is just the same as going to a munch and asking the munchers what is the best way? They will say "going to a munch".
Total all the Cafe users and all the munchers together and you only have a couple of hundred people at best. How many people in the UK are involved in swinging?
It is important to remember when asking any group about getting involved - they are expressing a personal preference that suits them - it doesn't mean it is a one-size fits all approach for everyone.
However, the people that moan that whatever they are doing isn't working should stop bloody moaning, get out there and try something different.