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I have fat finger when it comes to typing, and sometimes my fingers dont type what my brain is telling them to! mad
Quote by Steve
And lifes too short to go round starting threads about people who like to see good grammar dont you think dunno

Sorry Steve but life being too short has never stopped others from digging up people for their method of posting. Correct me if I'm wrong on that obviously!
The current fantasy thread being a classic example confused
I reckon that by the response to Cherry's thread there have been quite a few people who have had the same feeling of late. It's a topical thread if ever I've seen one!
Quote by the_Laird

And lifes too short to go round starting threads about people who like to see good grammar dont you think dunno

Sorry Steve but life being too short has never stopped others from digging up people for their method of posting. Correct me if I'm wrong on that obviously!
The current fantasy thread being a classic example confused
I reckon that by the response to Cherry's thread there have been quite a few people who have had the same feeling of late. It's a topical thread if ever I've seen one!
Or seen a chance to have a dig :dunno:
Quote by Steve

And lifes too short to go round starting threads about people who like to see good grammar dont you think dunno

Sorry Steve but life being too short has never stopped others from digging up people for their method of posting. Correct me if I'm wrong on that obviously!
The current fantasy thread being a classic example confused
I reckon that by the response to Cherry's thread there have been quite a few people who have had the same feeling of late. It's a topical thread if ever I've seen one!
Or seen a chance to have a dig :dunno:
Obviously hasn't stopped you.
Personally I've seen it in a positive light and something that we should look at as adopting a welcoming approach to new contributors in the forum whilst giving them the confidence to post in an environment that welcomes their contribution with open, non judgemental arms.
Maybe thats just me.
Tell me steve, do we want to be inclusive?
Quote by the_Laird
To be honest Cherry I’m very much of the same opinion as you. I’m all for constructive criticism and healthy debate. I just find the whole correcting of spelling at best tiresome and at worse condescending. If that view upsets some people then so be it.
Is there any need to publicly chastise people on a forum for their lack of grammar or spelling ability?
No I don’t think there is.
If, as many have said, the posters lack of spelling, punctuation and grammar has made up your mind not to play with someone then fine, move along. What then gives anyone the right, morally or otherwise, to set about destroying perhaps what little confidence they have built up to post in the first place??
People making the effort to join in should be encouraged. This isn’t an exclusive club for the better educated or more academically able as far as I’m aware or has the site really changed that much???
If it bothers you that much then PM them with some helpful advice. There’s no need to make people seem small.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts on things Lairdy kiss
I'm dyslexic but use a spell check on firefox so that normally pulls up any errors I make, although it doesn't cover grammar, just spelling.
To be quite honest I don't see being dyslexic as being a bad thing. All it is, is that my brain works differently to other peoples. I struggle more with number that spelling but I was lucky enough to have the support at school to help my find good learning mechanisms so that now I hardly ever have any problems in day to day life. I would never use being dyslexic as an excuse......sometime if I'm struggling to understand something new etc. due to the person explaining it in a way that I find difficult, I will stop them and say that I need it explained in a different way so that I can get my head round it.
Really the biggest problem I have is writing down what I actually want to say....in real life I can put myself across relatively eloquently and clearly but often when I try to write down what I want to say it all comes out totally wrong.....but by the time I've written down the wrong thing and read it back I can't remember what I was going to say in the first place.confused :lol2:
Hopefully I make some sort of sense most of the time.....if I don't, or my grammar isn't as good as yours, feel free to ignore my posts. biggrin
literature (had to google the proper spelling) has never been my strong point. I tend to think about what I want to write faster than i can put pen to paper, so what i do is just write/type in blocks my ideas so I dont forget it then go back and edit it.
That means when writing quickly on here in a witty reply my grammer is usually out the window, When I read others posts on here It bothers me not how its written just the content on it.
People should feel at ease with the ability to post their feelings and thoughts on here, which is hard enough for some shy people, with out the worry that they might get picked up on spelling or grammer.
>>>Coughs politely<<<<
I'm back! I haven't read through all of the thread, but to answer Cherry's question-
I used to be very picky about spelling and grammar. However, I've grown up enough recently to realise that just because someone can't spell doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, two of the guy's I've been closet to in my life have been poor spellers/ Dyslexic. They're both highly intelligent guys.
It does irk me a little though when people who can't spell take it upon themselves to write signs! rolleyes
All I ask in the forums is that people make an effort so that they can be understood. When a post appears with poor spelling and no punctuation, It can be an absolute nightmare to understand. confused
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>>>Coughs politely<<<<
I'm back! I haven't read through all of the thread, but to answer Cherry's question-
I used to be very picky about spelling and grammar. However, I've grown up enough recently to realise that just because someone can't spell doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, two of the guy's I've been closet to in my life have been poor spellers/ Dyslexic. They're both highly intelligent guys.
It does irk me a little though when people who can't spell take it upon themselves to write signs! rolleyes
All I ask in the forums is that people make an effort so that they can be understood. When a post appears with poor spelling and no punctuation, It can be an absolute nightmare to understand. confused

unless its because you have too many vino's in Normandy of course :haha:
Quote by winchwench
>>>Coughs politely<<<<
I'm back! I haven't read through all of the thread, but to answer Cherry's question-
I used to be very picky about spelling and grammar. However, I've grown up enough recently to realise that just because someone can't spell doesn't mean they're stupid. In fact, two of the guy's I've been closet to in my life have been poor spellers/ Dyslexic. They're both highly intelligent guys.
It does irk me a little though when people who can't spell take it upon themselves to write signs! rolleyes
All I ask in the forums is that people make an effort so that they can be understood. When a post appears with poor spelling and no punctuation, It can be an absolute nightmare to understand. confused

welcome back sweetie.. hope it's been a good one? wink
Cherry first I would like to say what a great thread!
I have been using the forums for a month or so, I enjoy coming in reading different peoples opinions and have had a laugh reading some of the threads. I have read some posts that the spelling isn’t too great but the content is very interesting, and have read others where the spelling is great and the content is dull.
I would never comment or criticise on another’s spelling I don’t think I have a right to do that.
Who am I to judge another just on their spelling?
I would respond and interact with another, and also state my thoughts but to criticise just shows weakness and the lack of compassion for our fellow man.
My concerns in highlighting someone’s weakness could have a lasting impact on someone that might have little self esteem in the first place, I would much rather we be here as friends to help them build their self esteem not destroy what little they may have. Then, if you are educated you will realise this.
We all communicate differently that’s what I find so fascinating. The ability to digest what someone has written and to think is an education in itself.
Education isn’t about the first 18 or so years of someone’s life and if you think it is then you will never grow up with tolerance, compassion, and understanding.
I think it is called wisdom!
It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense.
Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.
O by the way this is written by someone that didn’t have a very good education!!
But my strive in life is to make sure my children do have!
Quote by Theladyisaminx
nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.

I couldn't disagree more. Are you sure? Not even, say, talking? reading? generosity?
Quote by flower411
nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.

I couldn't disagree more. Are you sure? Not even, say, talking? reading? generosity?
If one wanted to be pedantic you could say that nothing worth knowing can be taught.....because it has to be learnt.
It is very difficult to teach an unreceptive mind but a receptive mind can learn anything.
That's just semantics!

(good tho' ;))
Quote by winchwench
All I ask in the forums is that people make an effort so that they can be understood. When a post appears with poor spelling and no punctuation, It can be an absolute nightmare to understand. confused

That's exactly what I was saying - so amen to that.
The original exchange which brought all this about included the opinion of the person who couldn't spell too well saying that they didn't see the need to take the time and trouble to make an effort on the forum because they're just conversing with people. It had been observed that their profile and advert were well spelt and readable and they had taken the trouble.
I'm sorry but that just implies that they couldn't be fucked on the forum and is a dicourtesy to the reader in itself.
I for one think that this thread is not a good thread because of the trickle running between the lines and I regret it was ever started.
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Quote by flower411
If one wanted to be pedantic you could say that nothing worth knowing can be taught.....because it has to be learnt.

That isn't pedantry, it's gobbledegook! Nothing can be learned that isn't taught, if not by a person then by one's self or by experience.
Quote by westerross

All I ask in the forums is that people make an effort so that they can be understood. When a post appears with poor spelling and no punctuation, It can be an absolute nightmare to understand. confused

That's exactly what I was saying - so amen to that.
The original exchange which brought all this about included the opinion of the person who couldn't spell too well saying that they didn't see the need to take the time and trouble to make an effort on the forum because they're just conversing with people. It had been observed that their profile and advert were well spelt and readable and they had taken the trouble.
I'm sorry but that just implies that they couldn't be fucked on the forum and is a dicourtesy to the reader in itself.
I for one think that this thread is not a good thread because of the trickle running between the lines and I regret it was ever started.
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Tune kiss
I'm sorry you regret this thread was started.
The thread was not started because of that particular exchange, as I've already said.
If the thread has had a trickle running between the lines, that was not my doing, nor my intention.
Hmmmm you are all wrong rolleyes wink - learning and teaching theory shows there are all sorts of ways to learn other than by being taught and experience lol :lol: its all semantics but it gets you to be a professor!!
I hate text talk on here as its lazy 'speak'. However, if people have poor spelling skills and poor punctuation, its not my place to correct them. If I can't understand what they are talking about I don't respond.
Quote by Unc

If one wanted to be pedantic you could say that nothing worth knowing can be taught.....because it has to be learnt.

That isn't pedantry, it's gobbledegook! Nothing can be learned that isn't taught, if not by a person then by one's self or by experience.
If Flower's is gobbledygook then yours comes a close second!! I don't understand either.
Are we saying that anything that is worth knowing can be taught or it can be learnt by experience?
Beware you're talking to the Prince of Gobbledygook here! Mwaahaha!
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Is this a semantic word fight in here tonight lol
All together now:
:karaoke:
You say pedantic, and I say semantic.
You say gobbledegook, I say crap,
Pedantic! Semantic! Semantic! Pedantic!
Let's call the whole thread off...
Quote by TheLovelyOne
All together now:
:karaoke:
You say pedantic, and I say semantic.
You say gobbledegook, I say crap,
Pedantic! Semantic! Semantic! Pedantic!
Let's call the whole thread off...

Brilliant lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by flower411
You might just as well turn that on it`s head and say nothing can be taught that isn`t learned !!!!

Actually you can't. You can teach without anything being learned, it happens in schools and universities all over the country every day. Care to try again to make some sense?
is it learnt or learned....thats summat i dont know for sure dunno
Quote by westerross
I for one think that this thread is not a good thread because of the trickle running between the lines and I regret it was ever started.
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May I ask what trickle this is and why you believe it should not have been started, as had been said many times people are entitled to their own opinion which has be stated by Cherry.
If you believe this should be not for public consumption then by all means use my pm box. cool
Quote by flower411

You might just as well turn that on it`s head and say nothing can be taught that isn`t learned !!!!

Actually you can't. You can teach without anything being learned, it happens in schools and universities all over the country every day. Care to try again to make some sense?
Sorry ....you can instruct or demonstrate without anything being learned .....but I`m pretty sure that to teach implies that something is being learned.
So teaching is only possible if somebody is learning dunno
no teaching and learning are two completely seperate theories ......... want some theorists to google ?
I rarely do this because gosh I hate flaming folk but............
Flower do u behave like this in public?
Tsk tsk tsk
Quote by westerross
If Flower's is gobbledygook then yours comes a close second!! I don't understand either.
Are we saying that anything that is worth knowing can be taught or it can be learnt by experience?
Beware you're talking to the Prince of Gobbledygook here! Mwaahaha!
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Whether something is 'worth knowing' is purely subjective, but excepting Corrie's professional input (to which I willingly bow <grin>), my belief is that in order to learn you have to be taught by someone or something. As to your understanding being a valid definition of whether something is gobbledegook, I reserve judgement biggrin
First admission - I haven't read the whole thread. (It's a bit late for me and I've had a glass of wine already)
Second admission - I'm known at work as the apostrophe queen.
I am VERY fussy about grammar and spelling at work. We teach people to use computer systems. Understanding the instructions can be impossible if the writer hasn't taken great care with both the English and the sense of what they are writing.
I have carried some of this into the forums here for which I heartily apologise to anyone I have annoyed with my corrections. It is my fault for being unnecessarily fussy about it - not theirs.
As many people have said (before this turned into a sing-along biggrin ) it is the SENSE that matters not the spelling. Some basic punctuation (question marks are a favourite to miss out) are essential to understanding the sense of a comment - but fussing about the rest is meaningless.
My reason? This is a conversation site, not a court of law or a scientific journal, and we don't worry about the odd slip in a face-to-face, so we shouldn't worry about it here.
And to all those who struggle press that Submit button for fear of sounding daft - don't worry about it. You probably won't, and if you do - remember even the most experienced and 'literate' poster makes a complete arse of themselves occasionally :D:D:D
May I interject?
No?
Tough.
My Mum always says "I'll learn you how to....(whatever"
Drives me fecking nuts it does. rolleyes
As you were chaps.
:bounce: MarkZ is back!!!!
Quote by flower411
Yeah !! but only half of my post was quoted !!
I could make the most eloquent wordsmith in the world look like they were talking crap by simply missing out bits of what they said and then arguing with the bit that suited my purposes !!

I snipped 'It is very difficult to teach an unreceptive mind but a receptive mind can learn anything.'. That changes things how, exactly?
Sorry if you can't accept being wrong, but to suggest I in any way missed anything pertinent is offensive and downright untrue.
Quote by winchwench
May I interject?
No?
Tough.
My Mum always says "I'll learn you how to....(whatever"
Drives me fecking nuts it does. rolleyes
As you were chaps.
:bounce: MarkZ is back!!!!

Some variations are just wrong - and confuse the reader. That's a great example WW biggrin
But if someone (including me) were to post something like that I would hope that the lovely people on here would post a query - not flame them for it. (And the un-lovely people could look elsewhere for a moment?)