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Quote by Mr-Powers
Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
Quote by Mr-Powers
I understand completly what is going on here but....it takes an adult to walk away and that is exactly what I am going to do. So I will not take the obvious bait,and as I said yesterday I will not get involved in petty childs play.
IF people want me to refrain from posting in the forums then I will, but I think a lot of people enjoy what I write.
I will not get dragged down a road, I will walk it of my own free will if that is the way I want to go.
So being an adult I will walk away from this post,and whilst I will continue to post I will ignore the element that is there for one purpose only, and that is to cause as much trouble as possible.

And if you remark on a subject and i dissagree with it,i will say so,i wil not avoid you or your subject matter!
Problem is you remark on the person before the subject though
i.e. member posts a 'debateable controversial subject that could cause people to raise eyebrows cause consternation shout out in alarm possibly'
Mr powers then posts what amounts too.... 'your a stupid wanker'
Therein i find the problem

in your opinion...but your wrong!
I so sincerely wished I was. Though I know i'm not.
Yep and thats the problem with Kent aswell he thinks he's always right,he can't accept other peoples opinions,he can't just say "lets agree to disagree"...always with the need to call them "tree hugging lefties" and insult in its self....what comes around goes around.
Hmmm your now saying that Mr kent and I are the same. Blimey that is an assumption worth qualifying.
If someone was truly offended by being called a tree hugging leftie then i'd honestly wonder how they got up in the morning.
Quote by Max777

Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
I'm not hounding him...i'm standing up to him...thats the differnce!
Quote by Mr-Powers

Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
I'm not hounding him...i'm standing up to him...thats the differnce!
no you are not and that's the problem.....your posts add nothing to the debate, they are personal attacks on Kent rather than constructive arguement.
Quote by Lost
I understand completly what is going on here but....it takes an adult to walk away and that is exactly what I am going to do. So I will not take the obvious bait,and as I said yesterday I will not get involved in petty childs play.
IF people want me to refrain from posting in the forums then I will, but I think a lot of people enjoy what I write.
I will not get dragged down a road, I will walk it of my own free will if that is the way I want to go.
So being an adult I will walk away from this post,and whilst I will continue to post I will ignore the element that is there for one purpose only, and that is to cause as much trouble as possible.

And if you remark on a subject and i dissagree with it,i will say so,i wil not avoid you or your subject matter!
Problem is you remark on the person before the subject though
i.e. member posts a 'debateable controversial subject that could cause people to raise eyebrows cause consternation shout out in alarm possibly'
Mr powers then posts what amounts too.... 'your a stupid wanker'
Therein i find the problem

in your opinion...but your wrong!
I so sincerely wished I was. Though I know i'm not.
Yep and thats the problem with Kent aswell he thinks he's always right,he can't accept other peoples opinions,he can't just say "lets agree to disagree"...always with the need to call them "tree hugging lefties" and insult in its self....what comes around goes around.
Hmmm your now saying that Mr kent and I are the same. Blimey that is an assumption worth qualifying.
No different than your assumption of me!
If someone was truly offended by being called a tree hugging leftie then i'd honestly wonder how they got up in the morning.
But thats his closing argument most of the time,in fact it amusing that he is so predictable with his remarks.
Quote by Max777

Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
I'm not hounding him...i'm standing up to him...thats the differnce!
no you are not and that's the problem.....your posts add nothing to the debate, they are personal attacks on Kent rather than constructive arguement.
really,and there was me thinking i've been very constructive in this thread!
Quote by Mr-Powers

Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
I'm not hounding him...i'm standing up to him...thats the differnce!
no you are not and that's the problem.....your posts add nothing to the debate, they are personal attacks on Kent rather than constructive arguement.
really,and there was me thinking i've been very constructive in this thread!
I'm talking about the posts you make against Kent
i dont need to say names or take sides.
ive been here a fair few years and i smell the fear people have about posting in some threads due to the personal abuse or blatent disagrement just because that poster does not for what ever reason like the person whos posted.
its a shame some people feel the need to pick on some peoples posts, because its not just the person you think is a twat who you bully away from posting, but the people on the side lines who fear the same attacks dare they disagree with you,or one of your mates.
actually feckit, i might not always agree with kent, but i do not see him to be the bully or "playing" the victim.
i have in the past felt picked on by a member here, and i try to avoid him and the threads he posts in.
i just wish people would debate the point and not make personal attacks.
YOU are killing the forums ffs.
xx fem xx
Anyone for tea and scones ? Blimey all this banter over an obnoxious right wing tosser. I feel almost flattered. One lump or two losty ? Her her
Quote by Max777

Really what about Peanut...I remember Kent and another member of this site...but mostly Kent though...ritually hound Peanut...Peanut was a very clever man,who spoke his mind and could easily run rings around Kent...but i remember Kent usually baiting Peanut for a reaction with abuse.

From what I remember of Peanut, he wasn't against arguing anyone into submission, can't ever remember him admitting to being wrong?
So does you doing the same to Kent make it any better?
I'm not hounding him...i'm standing up to him...thats the differnce!
no you are not and that's the problem.....your posts add nothing to the debate, they are personal attacks on Kent rather than constructive arguement.
really,and there was me thinking i've been very constructive in this thread!
I'm talking about the posts you make against Kent
My posts are blunt and to the point...bit like Kent himself...if i think something he has posted is bollocks i will say it,just as i would expect him to do the same to me...simples!
Quote by fem_4_taboo
i dont need to say names or take sides.
ive been here a fair few years and i smell the fear people have about posting in some threads due to the personal abuse or blatent disagrement just because that poster does not for what ever reason like the person whos posted.
its a shame some people feel the need to pick on some peoples posts, because its not just the person you think is a twat who you bully away from posting, but the people on the side lines who fear the same attacks dare they disagree with you,or one of your mates.
actually feckit, i might not always agree with kent, but i do not see him to be the bully or "playing" the victim.
i have in the past felt picked on by a member here, and i try to avoid him and the threads he posts in.
i just wish people would debate the point and not make personal attacks.
YOU are killing the forums ffs.
xx fem xx

Fem, you are spot on! It took me a long time to start posting in the forums because of shite like this...it's amazing how those who are complaining of bullying are the ones displaying the traits of bullies.
Quote by Mr-Powers
I understand completly what is going on here but....it takes an adult to walk away and that is exactly what I am going to do. So I will not take the obvious bait,and as I said yesterday I will not get involved in petty childs play.
IF people want me to refrain from posting in the forums then I will, but I think a lot of people enjoy what I write.
I will not get dragged down a road, I will walk it of my own free will if that is the way I want to go.
So being an adult I will walk away from this post,and whilst I will continue to post I will ignore the element that is there for one purpose only, and that is to cause as much trouble as possible.

And if you remark on a subject and i dissagree with it,i will say so,i wil not avoid you or your subject matter!
Problem is you remark on the person before the subject though
i.e. member posts a 'debateable controversial subject that could cause people to raise eyebrows cause consternation shout out in alarm possibly'
Mr powers then posts what amounts too.... 'your a stupid wanker'
Therein i find the problem

in your opinion...but your wrong!
I so sincerely wished I was. Though I know i'm not.
Yep and thats the problem with Kent aswell he thinks he's always right,he can't accept other peoples opinions,he can't just say "lets agree to disagree"...always with the need to call them "tree hugging lefties" and insult in its self....what comes around goes around.
Hmmm your now saying that Mr kent and I are the same. Blimey that is an assumption worth qualifying.
**No different than your assumption of me!**
If someone was truly offended by being called a tree hugging leftie then i'd honestly wonder how they got up in the morning.
But thats his closing argument most of the time,in fact it amusing that he is so predictable with his remarks.
**Now i'm confused**
We dont see the same things obviously but hey that makes for a more interesting life. I just hope the member continues to enliven debates and bring topics to the fore however much I'd like to PM him and shout STOPPPPPPPPP! two or three pages into a thread, you've said enough now your getting into trouble lol Maybe I should put the guy into my friends folder and do that! biggrin rather than cringe when things go icky
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.
I like to sit in the corner... and I'm completely desolved :smug:
lp
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.

So what are you saying there Minx lol
Quote by __random_orbit__
I like to sit in the corner... and I'm completely desolved :smug:
lp

Is your name Odo?
Quote by flower411
I`ve always thought of you as one of the boys minx lol

:shock: Flower that is one of the nicest things you have said to me.
Check your temperature I think you are ill. wink
Quote by Lost
I understand completly what is going on here but....it takes an adult to walk away and that is exactly what I am going to do. So I will not take the obvious bait,and as I said yesterday I will not get involved in petty childs play.
IF people want me to refrain from posting in the forums then I will, but I think a lot of people enjoy what I write.
I will not get dragged down a road, I will walk it of my own free will if that is the way I want to go.
So being an adult I will walk away from this post,and whilst I will continue to post I will ignore the element that is there for one purpose only, and that is to cause as much trouble as possible.

And if you remark on a subject and i dissagree with it,i will say so,i wil not avoid you or your subject matter!
Problem is you remark on the person before the subject though
i.e. member posts a 'debateable controversial subject that could cause people to raise eyebrows cause consternation shout out in alarm possibly'
Mr powers then posts what amounts too.... 'your a stupid wanker'
Therein i find the problem

in your opinion...but your wrong!
I so sincerely wished I was. Though I know i'm not.
Yep and thats the problem with Kent aswell he thinks he's always right,he can't accept other peoples opinions,he can't just say "lets agree to disagree"...always with the need to call them "tree hugging lefties" and insult in its self....what comes around goes around.
Hmmm your now saying that Mr kent and I are the same. Blimey that is an assumption worth qualifying.
**No different than your assumption of me!**
If someone was truly offended by being called a tree hugging leftie then i'd honestly wonder how they got up in the morning.
But thats his closing argument most of the time,in fact it amusing that he is so predictable with his remarks.
**Now i'm confused**

That didn't come across right...you assume i don't like Kent...you assume i go out of my way to snipe at him at every possible moment..and that's why i know your wrong when you say you are right...i don't go to work,counting the hours before i get home so i can come on here to single Kent out...Kent picks controversial threads for obvious reasons...to get a rise out of certain people...wether he does this intentionally or not,only he knows that...by being a high profile forumite with a tendancy to be controversial,he is liable to rub someone up the wrong way...his thread about the "same sex parents" is a good example...i don't have a personal vendetta against Kent,but you think i do...and thats why i know your wrong...
Quote by flower411
I`ve always thought of you as one of the boys minx lol

:shock: Flower that is one of the nicest things you have said to me.
Check your temperature I think you are ill. wink
Fuckin ell !!!!!
I`ve just accused somebody in PM of not reading the whole thread !!!!
And just when I was thinking the same about you .............. rolleyes
ermm am I confused again then? :roll:
Quote by Lost
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.

So what are you saying there Minx lol
Have I not made sense again? :lol:
Quote by flower411
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.

So what are you saying there Minx lol
Have I not made sense again? :lol:
Perfect sense minx ... Lost is just being a git :lol:
I cant believe you understand me you never understand me, you always say I confuse you, or do I just confuse myself?
Why are you being nice to me, what are you after? rolleyes
That didn't come across right...you assume i don't like Kent...you assume i go out of my way to snipe at him at every possible moment..and that's why i know your wrong when you say you are right...i don't go to work,counting the hours before i get home so i can come on here to single Kent out...Kent picks controversial threads for obvious reasons...to get a rise out of certain people...wether he does this unintentionally or not,only he knows that...by being a high profile forumite with a tendancy to be controversial,he is liable to rub someone up the wrong way...his thread about the "same sex parents" is a good example...i don't have a personal vendetta against Kent,but you think i do...and thats why i know your wrong...
You really should take a step back and look at how you post.......Kent isn't the only one with a tendancy to rub people up the wrong way.
How do you KNOW that Kent posts controversial threads just to get a rise from certain people? Doesn't he just post topical threads, albeit with his wiewpoint? On other forums I look in, there are many more topical threads posted......and debated in a much more adult fashion!
Quote by Max777

That didn't come across right...you assume i don't like Kent...you assume i go out of my way to snipe at him at every possible moment..and that's why i know your wrong when you say you are right...i don't go to work,counting the hours before i get home so i can come on here to single Kent out...Kent picks controversial threads for obvious reasons...to get a rise out of certain people...wether he does this unintentionally or not,only he knows that...by being a high profile forumite with a tendancy to be controversial,he is liable to rub someone up the wrong way...his thread about the "same sex parents" is a good example...i don't have a personal vendetta against Kent,but you think i do...and thats why i know your wrong...

You really should take a step back and look at how you post.......Kent isn't the only one with a tendancy to rub people up the wrong way.
How do you KNOW that Kent posts controversial threads just to get a rise from certain people? Doesn't he just post topical threads, albeit with his wiewpoint? On other forums I look in, there are many more topical threads posted......and debated in a much more adult fashion!
And how do you know he doesn't?...you obviously see things different to me,and we could could go around in circles over and over about this...so we can either agree to disagree or just carry on.
you really need to sort out your quotes.. wink
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.

So what are you saying there Minx lol
Have I not made sense again? :lol:
Perfect sense minx ... Lost is just being a git :lol:
I cant believe you understand me you never understand me, you always say I confuse you, or do I just confuse myself?
Why are you being nice to me, what are you after? rolleyes
He's after a shag, what else? :giggle:
Quote by flower411
I feel dizzy! lol

Oh so dizzy ...my head is spinning ....
Shall we spend the rest of the evening quoting songs ??
Only if you stay away from your crap ones! :lol:
Quote by GnV
I feel I have never abused anyone in the forums on a personal assult. but I have felt the victim of some here, I name no names but I just raise above it and carry on regardless.
I just post what I want to say, and very rarely now will I come back in response to people that have responded in my threads.
I just enjoy trying to cause a likely debate as more seems to get reslolved in talking that sitting being quiet in the corner.
I always say in life to, through our hardest times we learn the most too.
So hopefully something new will come out of this, thats if we can all be adult and just respect each other for being different.

So what are you saying there Minx lol
Have I not made sense again? :lol:
Perfect sense minx ... Lost is just being a git :lol:
I cant believe you understand me you never understand me, you always say I confuse you, or do I just confuse myself?
Why are you being nice to me, what are you after? rolleyes
He's after a shag, what else? :giggle:
Nah he sees me as a boy! :shock: shhh dont tell him different.
You will shatter his illusion. wink
I think the conclusion that may/may not be reached is that debating a point is one thing, when it becomes Ad Hominem it's another.
For example, take the "relationship" twixt myself and Kent. I frequently disagree with his standpoints on many issues. Most of the time I ignore it. I have been known, on several occasions, to agree with him- and I've done so publicly.
When I do enter into a debate with him, he'll ignore a lot of what I write as it suits. Either that, or he'll be condascending. Once upon a time, this frustrated me. It was the internet equivalent of being patted on the head & told to run along. Now I believe his tendency to use sweeping statements as an attempt to bolster a flagging argument- and I couldn't care less. I'll continue to debate the point, irrespective of whichever disparaging insult he's throwing around.
Even when he's right, his bombastic, condascending manner can make you want to do something which would breach the AUP...
BUT...I don't think he's a bully. Not if you use the dictionary definition of "the act of intimidating a weaker person to make them do something"- as I believe that the people he usually gets into a ruck with are easily his intellectual equals.
I do see lots of attempts at browbeating- and although he's not the only one, Kent is one of the worst for carefully baiting someone whilst skirting the AUP (Dry Roasted, anyone? rolleyes )
Anyhoo, I recently allowed myself a Kenty Character assasination. It's not often I do that- but I felt it needed saying. Aside from that I'll continue, no doubt, to debate the point...leaving out the Ad Hominem...
Quote by Witchy
I think the conclusion that may/may not be reached is that debating a point is one thing, when it becomes Ad Hominem it's another.
For example, take the "relationship" twixt myself and Kent. I frequently disagree with his standpoints on many issues. Most of the time I ignore it. I have been known, on several occasions, to agree with him- and I've done so publicly.
When I do enter into a debate with him, he'll ignore a lot of what I write as it suits. Either that, or he'll be condascending. Once upon a time, this frustrated me. It was the internet equivalent of being patted on the head & told to run along. Now I believe his tendency to use sweeping statements as an attempt to bolster a flagging argument- and I couldn't care less. I'll continue to debate the point, irrespective of whichever disparaging insult he's throwing around.
Even when he's right, his bombastic, condascending manner can make you want to do something which would breach the AUP...
BUT...I don't think he's a bully. Not if you use the dictionary definition of "the act of intimidating a weaker person to make them do something"- as I believe that the people he usually gets into a ruck with are easily his intellectual equals.
I do see lots of attempts at browbeating- and although he's not the only one, Kent is one of the worst for carefully baiting someone whilst skirting the AUP (Dry Roasted, anyone? rolleyes )
Anyhoo, I recently allowed myself a Kenty Character assasination. It's not often I do that- but I felt it needed saying. Aside from that I'll continue, no doubt, to debate the point...leaving out the Ad Hominem...


Are you disounting the views of Hominemsexuals!!!
biggrin
wasn't Hominem the real Slim Shadey?
lp