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do you think the site should have a verification system

Resonance wrote:
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Every word in the Oxford English dictionary, and a few more besides.

That's the sort of thing I've said before, back in the days when you didn't get in my head & do it for me. lol
I'm big enough & fugly enough to realise that when I shut the door on my way out, there will be a bigger volume of champers than tears. It matters not one iota to me. Standing up for what I believe in is far more important. There was a time I would have walked hot coals for this place, that time passed years ago.
In effect, I moved into a house. When I moved there, I loved it. I helped care for it, maintain it's attributes...planted a few flowers...etc.
Then they built a bypass. You gotta have a bypass :lol:
A trading estate sprang up...traffic got heavier...I loved the house a little less.
The people who'd once lived nearby- the ones who'd moved in for the same reasons I had started to move out. I got on great with some of the new neighbours, but there were fewer people with whom I had much in common.
I started to see fewer reasons to stay.
Then there was a proposal to build a runway at the end of the street. I sleep through anything, but, concerned about the locals who don't...and the asthmatics etc, I wrote some letters, signed some petitions, and generally had my say.
The runway is about to be built. It will suit some people. It won't suit others.
I didn't want a house with a runway at the end of the street. I no longer love the house. I'm moving out. The street will carry on being. Someone else will move into the house, change the decor, replant the garden...and as I leave, I'll wish the neighb0ours well.

Why some people feel the need to argue ad hominem is quite beyond me.
And Res, scares the living wonkas? When we leave, you, my friend, are invited round for a Chinese meal. Whilst you're here, you can clean the wine off the computer screen. Barsteward. rotflmao
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Furry muff, ... In my mind, you're still pure as the driven snow wink

I have never really understood that phrase - 'pure as the driven snow' isn't 'driven snow' all brown and slushy ?
That's exactly what she was implying... go on, stick one on 'er!
Rarify, don't Verify!
lp
nice to see the site is moving to the 21st century and leaving those antiquated victorian attitudes behind and old fashion ideas well in the past.
still a long way to go in adding more to the site wheather for free members or paying members.
btw happy new year for those who want it to be.
Quote by karrob
nice to see the site is moving to the 21st century and leaving those antiquated victorian attitudes behind and old fashion ideas well in the past.
still a long way to go in adding more to the site wheather for free members or paying members.
btw happy new year for those who want it to be.

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Quote by Witchy
I'm big enough & fugly enough to realise that when I shut the door on my way out, there will be a bigger volume of champers than tears. It matters not one iota to me. Standing up for what I believe in is far more important. There was a time I would have walked hot coals for this place, that time passed years ago.
In effect, I moved into a house. When I moved there, I loved it. I helped care for it, maintain it's attributes...planted a few flowers...etc.
Then they built a bypass. You gotta have a bypass lol
A trading estate sprang up...traffic got heavier...I loved the house a little less.
The people who'd once lived nearby- the ones who'd moved in for the same reasons I had started to move out. I got on great with some of the new neighbours, but there were fewer people with whom I had much in common.
I started to see fewer reasons to stay.
Then there was a proposal to build a runway at the end of the street. I sleep through anything, but, concerned about the locals who don't...and the asthmatics etc, I wrote some letters, signed some petitions, and generally had my say.
The runway is about to be built. It will suit some people. It won't suit others.
I didn't want a house with a runway at the end of the street. I no longer love the house. I'm moving out. The street will carry on being. Someone else will move into the house, change the decor, replant the garden...and as I leave, I'll wish the neighb0ours well.

This is simply the success and therefore inevitable expansion of a successful website. I belong to another website where I have one of the highest post counts and long membership. That website is top of pile the best numero uno in its field. The difference between that site and this one is that its for a niche market that has no real chance of expanding. When swinging exploded in the UK Swingingheaven must have just been well placed to take a good deal of the new traffic. I was here when the site was taken over and I think anyone with any real concerns about this being commercialized should have got out then as quite a few did. The writing was on the wall for all you see now from that moment.
On a more personal note I wont be holding any glass of champers when you leave. Ive had no qualms with you now or in your previous guise and from my rather crap memory I dont see why many people would. If the door hits your ass on the way out I may laugh but I certainly wont celebrate ;-)
Blimey are their really people who dont pay for the memberships :shock: Bloody hell you mean us who do pay are supporting those who don't

What a fucking liberty!

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I don't really understand what you are talking about Varca ?
I'm surprised this thread ain't been locked
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Whilst not questioning the fact that there are loads of "email address usernames"
Isn't the above count spooky ?
I got verified once
But I am ok now..............rolleyes
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Whilst not questioning the fact that there are loads of "email address usernames"
Isn't the above count spooky ?
It's because only 1667 pages can be displayed with 20 profiles per page now, whereas before the revamp, it actually gave you a figure of how many profiles there were, hence the figures I was able to quote in the other thread. The real count is much higher, it is just restricted by the new search facilities.
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Hopefully, as you so rightly say, we will get some kind of a clean up that will give us more realistic stats in terms of how many members live close enough to go play with biggrin
:thumbup: I reckon statistically over half the number, at least, of members signed up on site are bullshit but as 87% of statistics are made up on the spot then my reckoning has a 87% chance of being bullshit, all in all the figures are bullshit from bullshit land. Still can't believe this ain't locked after the big mod wasn't very nice. Most unusual, probably a mistake.
can you lock a Mod, statistically?
lp
half a million or a million does that really half an emphasis on having a verification system or not?
I wish all the debate would come to an end. Probably by installing some kind of system.
It may well benefit some people, at some point in their swinging 'career'. But if you are out there and active, you pretty well know who's available and your chances of getting it on with them. So this kind of thing tends to be a believable prospect for the slightly more cautious or those on a budget. Not to mention those suffering from mild forms of paranoia.
Did anyone benefit from the groups thing? Have there been reports that it was markedly more productive than the adverts?
I just think these things are there to create more possibilities but not necessarily anymore potential. Simple enough to devise in the world of IT projects, but like most engineering, probably offering more than anyone can comprehend or make use of.
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I wish all the debate would come to an end. Probably by installing some kind of system.

Don't say that for god's sake - People will leave the site.. for other sites.. that have verification systems.... (flaw in their argument?)
Seriously though (as slight tangent) just looked at this morning's stats:
Site Stats
Members: 1,129,806
Msgs Sent: 101,403,899
Photo Ads: 588,426
User Pics: 426,992
Video Chat: 701
If this is an issue why doesnt SH... oh... publish the correct stats? (Too radical an idea?) I realise I must now be careful what I say as my character "as a decent person" has come under heavy and harch judgement" as is now questionable SOOOOO..
... or are the people who don't want verification scared they'll be seen as not legit?
Its simple people - everytime one couple chat to another couple in the chat room and couple A tell couple B "Have you got your cam so we can see bth of you", thats asking for verification (that they both exist). Imagine if couple B said "Sorry, we dont do verification,... and if you do thenyou're not for us!". Lol.
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I got verified once
But I am ok now..............rolleyes

Who are you, I don't know you, you are not real.... I never shared a cig with you at a munch :grin:
See that's the problem - I don't smoke. SO means I can't get verified if everyone is out on the smoking deck and am the only sod inside.
I think a system will be devised which actually works for those who want it and appears to be a failure for those that don't. That should satisfy everyone.
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It's not just about that though Duncan, it's as Steve said, it's also about broken promises....

The biggest promise that was broken was that this site would always be a non-commercial free site. No one could blame Mark for taking the money but once the site was commercial then anything that will increase revenue can be expected.
The million plus members is a joke but there are certainly more active members than there were before the takeover and the forum is an even smaller part of the site than it was then. When the member list was viewable I was consistently about 100th with my meagre post count - that shows how few people actively use the forums. Chat room and ad users will no doubt have very different views on verification than those who use the forum 'long term getting to know you' method.
I would think that a figure of 70% in favour of verification is probably near to the mark and for those that think that being verified will change their lives good luck to them. We will carry on relying on our profile to attract interest but don't see any reason why there shouldn't be a verification system if people wish to use it - it's probably fairer than the unofficial one that is used at the moment.
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- it's probably fairer than the unofficial one that is used at the moment.

oh, now you are just being silly. Clearly people on here aren't so indiscreet to discuss the people they want to have sex with or have had sex with ??? No.... really? I don't believe you.
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- it's probably fairer than the unofficial one that is used at the moment.

oh, now you are just being silly. Clearly people on here aren't so indiscreet to discuss the people they want to have sex with or have had sex with ??? No.... really? I don't believe you.
Exactly,... suggesting that there are so few guys that can manage to keep a condom on is just plain wrong! smile
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half a million or a million does that really half an emphasis on having a verification system or not?

No it doesn't but it is relevant. I just don't like it when the very inaccurate membership figures are used to back up verification plans. Plus a good clearout will aid people in their searches smile It's no secret that I am anti for all the reasons I have spread across these 38 pages :)
In edit Sorry Tweeky, not sure how I managed to post this twice lol. Might have been the thought of slipping under your santa outfit that did it :grin: kiss
:shock: Thanks
Quote by varca
I think a system will be devised which actually works for those who want it and appears to be a failure for those that don't. That should satisfy everyone.

It's not just about that though Duncan, it's as Steve said, it's also about broken promises....
Just for clarification, when and who made this promise?
Cheers
Quote by Ahabs
Don't say that for god's sake - People will leave the site.. for other sites.. that have verification systems.... (flaw in their argument?)

Who mentioned leaving here for other sites dunno
Leaving here was mentioned but I saw no mention of going to another site....
Quote by Ahabs
If this is an issue why doesnt SH... oh... publish the correct stats? (Too radical an idea?)

The figures that are there now make the site seem a much more popular one than the correct figures do.....Even the correct figures would make it seem a popular site but the inflated ones make it seem all the better....
Quote by varca
half a million or a million does that really half an emphasis on having a verification system or not?

No it doesn't but it is relevant. I just don't like it when the very inaccurate membership figures are used to back up verification plans. Plus a good clearout will aid people in their searches smile It's no secret that I am anti for all the reasons I have spread across these 38 pages :)
In edit Sorry Tweeky, not sure how I managed to post this twice lol. Might have been the thought of slipping under your santa outfit that did it :grin: kiss
:shock: Thanks
Quote by varca
I think a system will be devised which actually works for those who want it and appears to be a failure for those that don't. That should satisfy everyone.

It's not just about that though Duncan, it's as Steve said, it's also about broken promises....
Just for clarification, when and who made this promise?
Cheers
Awww, it's New Years Eve and you want me to go hunting down in the dusty old archives!! :lol2: Only if you come with me, I'll hold your torch... :grin:
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o----- Hold onto this rope... it may take me a while.....
lol
Sure! I was really interested in if it was the previous owner or the new ones? I can follow into the vaults and I do promise to keep my clothes on. You can feel safe knowing this is place promises are kept innocent
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Don't say that for god's sake - People will leave the site.. for other sites.. that have verification systems.... (flaw in their argument?)

Who mentioned leaving here for other sites dunno
Leaving here was mentioned but I saw no mention of going to another site....
Ditto that. Without reading back, I think I'm the only person to have said they'd leave in the advent of verification...and I sure as hell didn't say I was going to another site.
Quote by Ahabs
If this is an issue why doesnt SH... oh... publish the correct stats? (Too radical an idea?)

The figures that are there now make the site seem a much more popular one than the correct figures do.....Even the correct figures would make it seem a popular site but the inflated ones make it seem all the better....
Quote by Witchy

Don't say that for god's sake - People will leave the site.. for other sites.. that have verification systems.... (flaw in their argument?)

Who mentioned leaving here for other sites dunno
Leaving here was mentioned but I saw no mention of going to another site....
Ditto that. Without reading back, I think I'm the only person to have said they'd leave in the advent of verification...and I sure as hell didn't say I was going to another site.
Quote by Ahabs
If this is an issue why doesnt SH... oh... publish the correct stats? (Too radical an idea?)

The figures that are there now make the site seem a much more popular one than the correct figures do.....Even the correct figures would make it seem a popular site but the inflated ones make it seem all the better....
Well that leaves two possible options:
1) Leave SH for another site (which I have now been corrected as was never said).
2) Leave SH and not go on any sites at all... potentially quit swinging? over verification?? Hmmmmm - sounds more realisitc.
Quote by Ahabs
not go on any sites at all... potentially quit swinging?

There is life beyond SH and the other sites. There are many people who seem to get by without actually using the internet. Were we to leave SH, and the other sites we're members of, it wouldn't affect our swinging in the slightest and I'm sure there are many people registered on here like us. Swinging existed before the internet and I'm sure that it would carry on if the internet disappeared.
That may be so, but for some we appreciate the varied opportunity the internet brings to swinging and would find it a darn sight harder depending on monthly contact magazine issues in hope of "have they replied to our message last month".
Way to much like reverting to the stone ages. Long live the internet.
Quote by Ahabs
That may be so, but for some we appreciate the varied opportunity the internet brings to swinging and would find it a darn sight harder depending on monthly contact magazine issues in hope of "have they replied to our message last month".
Way to much like reverting to the stone ages. Long live the internet.

We have never used a contact magazine, waiting a month isn't really our style, and I doubt our swinging could get much more varied. As I said earlier, good luck to those that think that verification will change their fortunes but many, many people really don't need it.
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Posted on 19th November 2005 at by Elliot - Admin
Sorry for delayed reply, I have been behind the scenes sorting more stuff out, pm’s etc etc.
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Fabio – as said above verification will not be implemented due to the reaction received here!
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Thanks to everyone for the input, im now off to tackle the inbox again

Guess we were given a bum steer eh....
I don't see the word promise?
I see a statement made over 4 years ago and the site has moved on a long way since then. Ideas change, peoples needs change and the site wants to provide te most requested function on site. They are doing this in one of the best ways possible confused
Personally, I don't give a monkeys because I can decide to use or not to use the system
I do believe there was something much more recently too...