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TE how do I get on a snog list?
fed-up/pissed off FB
bloody mcdonalds......
ive just asked for a big mac with none of them shrivelled green thingies....got home....and the buggers have squeezed some in there.....
????? :shock: :shock: :shock:
sorry wrong thread......
bugger
any 1 want a big mac by the way....while im here biggrin
Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol
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Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol

Just don't get the one's from Asda!
Quote by da69ve
Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol

Just don't get the one's from Asda!
Why? We've had Asda ones before and they were OK.
Quote by freckledbird
TE how do I get on a snog list?
fed-up/pissed off FB

Just ask! Yer already on mine!!
Quote by freckledbird
Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol

Just don't get the one's from Asda!
Why? We've had Asda ones before and they were OK.
A woman found an 8 inch rat in a jar of the asda's brand last week!....saw the pic in the sun......put me right off me lunch!
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TE how do I get on a snog list?
fed-up/pissed off FB

Just ask! Yer already on mine!!
:happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Made my night honey kiss
Hi Again
Just got back from the Italian, Yum Yum Yum. Again wanted to air a few more answers to questions.
1. If you only use SH 6 months a year due to travel It would seem that in the next 12 month period you would have still contributed to the community in the six that you were here. Lets remember to look at things like this when we design the community gate!.
2. Yes you can have free Ringtones and we mean really free ringtones, no texts in, no bills, no subscriptions. We have around 150 that we own all the rights to that you can download. I will sort the details out with the boys in the office then get back to you with the details.
3. Grooverider Fabio, Great DJs, I remember seeing them at Sterns in the day and have a lot of the 1990-93 vinyl that they used to spin. I take it you must like oldskool by the looks of it.
4. CU3b4 I agree about what you say about the community aspect of this site.
Right I must go my wife has the hump, or perhaps she needs it.
Bye for now
Quote by da69ve
Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol

Just don't get the one's from Asda!
Why? We've had Asda ones before and they were OK.
A woman found an 8 inch rat in a jar of the asda's brand last week!....saw the pic in the sun......put me right off me lunch!
Oh that's OK, we could feed the rat to the snakes - they've not had a pickled one yet :lol:
Quote by cu3b4ll
What I do know is that without him and Helen the UK swinging scene would not be what it is today. They built SH Towers brick by brick and, regardless of who actually holds the keys, it will always have a Blue Plaque on the door carrying their names.

I'm only up to this post on my catch-up, but just wanted to mention what a lovely sentiment I think this is kiss
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Dargento I'll have them...mmmmmm* gherkins lol

Just don't get the one's from Asda!
Why? We've had Asda ones before and they were OK.
A woman found an 8 inch rat in a jar of the asda's brand last week!....saw the pic in the sun......put me right off me lunch!
Oh that's OK, we could feed the rat to the snakes - they've not had a pickled one yet :lol:
Excuse me ......i need to go up stairs to the toilet to be sick....... :shock:
Have a wee for me whilst you're there Dave lol
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Right I must go my wife has the hump, or perhaps she needs it.
Bye for now

Don't forget Martin, you're in the right place now. If the wife wants a hump and you're too busy, just get one of the lads round ;) :lol2:
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Just got back from the Italian, Yum Yum Yum. Again wanted to air a few more answers to questions.

You have time to eat :shock: :shock: :shock: smackbottom :smackbottom: We dont have dinner breaks you know rotflmao :rotflmao:
Right I must go my wife has the hump, or perhaps she needs it.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Seems like Martin is going to fit in after all lol
Shireen
xxx
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Right I must go my wife has the hump, or perhaps she needs it.
Bye for now

Don't forget Martin, you're in the right place now. If the wife wants a hump and you're too busy, just get one of the lads round ;) :lol2:
Or one of the bi ladies :twisted:
Quote by freckledbird
Right I must go my wife has the hump, or perhaps she needs it.
Bye for now

Don't forget Martin, you're in the right place now. If the wife wants a hump and you're too busy, just get one of the lads round ;) :lol2:
Or one of the bi ladies :twisted:
Ooooh now why didn't I think of that :rascal: ;)
italian?????
BLOODY ITALIAN????
you mean GARRRRLLLIC BREAD???
BREAD.........................WITH GARLIC IN?????
youll be telling us youve had cheese cake too???
CAKE......MADE WITH CHEESE???
oh bollox....im gonna get it now.....sorrry judy....bluexxx...angel....i just couldnt resist it honest....
Oh no :doh: Martin. Please.... Don't ever mention anything again that dargento can possibly turn into the feckin garrrrrlic bread and/or cheeeeeeeeese cake thing rolleyes
And dargento. I'm never going out for a meal with you again smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: redface
why??? if i remember i "WAS" gonna shout out GAAAAAARLLLLIC BREAD to any 1 to hear in a 5 mile radius but you smacked me in the chops before i could say it lol....
and....you know youd go for another meal with me and let me fall asleep after smile
bloody good film though if you remember heehee
I "think" this might be covered under Reece's bit earlier, but tbh it all went over my head and now I've thought things through I need to get my thoughts down (and I'm very tired so it could come out peculiarly) :shock:
I have a pics page that was "hosted" by Mark, obviously he wasn't making money out of the site and therefore the pics that he offered to host. Now I can pull my link to this page and the pics but I can do nothing about removing those pics permanently.
Afaik, and as I'm led to believe any pictures I publish become the "intellectual property" of the owner of the site. Whilst I was happy with that being Mark, I trusted him and knew that at any point that I asked for them to be deleted he would. I've had no say in the takeover of the site including the pictures of me that Mark offered to "host" so where does that leave me?
Now I know that my pictures are a drop in the ocean and in the grand scheme of things mean very little to the balance of the site, but it took me a lot to post those pics and I know little about the owners and they know even less about me.
Calista x
Well thats that then guys .........its been real .
We shouldnt all get so wound up , it was fairly inevitable and in fact we are surprised it took as long as it such a successful site . Well done to Mark for managing as long as he did to run things so well and resist the temptation of coinage for such a lengthy spell . Silky and I are unfortunately veterans of quite a few such situations and have been here in the position of members contributors as well as web masters and founders of sites . All good intentions stated ,wether true or not , are of course now secondary to the concerns of good old profits . As such the very fabric and nature of the place can never be the same .
We are more than a little jaded with simlar experiences so we were very happy when we discovered such a diverse and entertaining intelligent bunch as SH existed . We are dissapointed , but having been here before perhaps less taken by surprise than many .
Unfortunately the introduction of money to the equation makes it impossible for the site to continue in the same spirit as before - the free , liberal and realistic approach to sex and sensuality displayed so refreshingly by the many posters on SH forums will be immediately tarnished by any attachment to a profit margin . The banter will immediately become salacious copy , the erotic pictures will instantly become pornography and the adverts will at once become just another dating ( pay your money and get laid) site . Any opinion expressed will of course be viewed as part of a profit making scheme ( like it or not) and we will all become effectively a bunch of performing freaks to draw in the people that want to pay to see the ' amazing swingersand their freakish sex lives' .
Even if the pages we have used remain free ( and there are all types of free - free with twenty seven pop ups on each page isnt really a bargain) you have to ask yourself about motivation for a profit making concern . They see web traffic , they see hits , they see people prepared to provide exciting and sexualised content for free day in day out all of which will draw in the curious punters .
We run our own free personal site , always free and just for pleasure , we used to post alot on sites that were free to view , but each one of them was eventually sold once they were valuable , and each one was basically ruined . The reason we run our own site isnt because we want to be web magnates , its because its fun to share and because we arent in the business of providing content for free to profiteers . If they want us to contribute they can ask nicely and we'll send them an invoice if they want us to put cash in their pocket .
As you all know we perhaps havent been as personally involved in the site as many , and that may have appeared stand offish , but in truth its because our past experiences have been of a similar ending - to all those of you who have made us laugh , and made us angry and intrigued us and made us smile we'd like to say thanks and just because we didnt munch it didnt mean we wouldnt have loved to meet many of you and have a chat and a beer.
As said earlier its truly a great mix of humanity here and deserves better than a visa registration can give - sadly introducing money to a swingers site is about as desirable as turning up at swingers meet and being asked for cash before the sex starts and I guess our views on that have been stated clearly enough in the past .
We truly truly hope we are wrong - and that somehow SH will survive commercialisation -and as we have typed far too many times before we'll say that we'll pop by now and then and see how its going - but in truth I am already looking for a big cyber wave to surf out to look for pastures new .
Peace S n G xxx
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Well thats that then guys .........its been real .
We shouldnt all get so wound up , it was fairly inevitable and in fact we are surprised it took as long as it such a successful site . Well done to Mark for managing as long as he did to run things so well and resist the temptation of coinage for such a lengthy spell . Silky and I are unfortunately veterans of quite a few such situations and have been here in the position of members contributors as well as web masters and founders of sites . All good intentions stated ,wether true or not , are of course now secondary to the concerns of good old profits . As such the very fabric and nature of the place can never be the same .
We are more than a little jaded with simlar experiences so we were very happy when we discovered such a diverse and entertaining intelligent bunch as SH existed . We are dissapointed , but having been here before perhaps less taken by surprise than many .
Unfortunately the introduction of money to the equation makes it impossible for the site to continue in the same spirit as before - the free , liberal and realistic approach to sex and sensuality displayed so refreshingly by the many posters on SH forums will be immediately tarnished by any attachment to a profit margin . The banter will immediately become salacious copy , the erotic pictures will instantly become pornography and the adverts will at once become just another dating ( pay your money and get laid) site . Any opinion expressed will of course be viewed as part of a profit making scheme ( like it or not) and we will all become effectively a bunch of performing freaks to draw in the people that want to pay to see the ' amazing swingersand their freakish sex lives' .
Even if the pages we have used remain free ( and there are all types of free - free with twenty seven pop ups on each page isnt really a bargain) you have to ask yourself about motivation for a profit making concern . They see web traffic , they see hits , they see people prepared to provide exciting and sexualised content for free day in day out all of which will draw in the curious punters .
We run our own free personal site , always free and just for pleasure , we used to post alot on sites that were free to view , but each one of them was eventually sold once they were valuable , and each one was basically ruined . The reason we run our own site isnt because we want to be web magnates , its because its fun to share and because we arent in the business of providing content for free to profiteers . If they want us to contribute they can ask nicely and we'll send them an invoice if they want us to put cash in their pocket .
As you all know we perhaps havent been as personally involved in the site as many , and that may have appeared stand offish , but in truth its because our past experiences have been of a similar ending - to all those of you who have made us laugh , and made us angry and intrigued us and made us smile we'd like to say thanks and just because we didnt munch it didnt mean we wouldnt have loved to meet many of you and have a chat and a beer.
As said earlier its truly a great mix of humanity here and deserves better than a visa registration can give - sadly introducing money to a swingers site is about as desirable as turning up at swingers meet and being asked for cash before the sex starts and I guess our views on that have been stated clearly enough in the past .
We truly truly hope we are wrong - and that somehow SH will survive commercialisation -and as we have typed far too many times before we'll say that we'll pop by now and then and see how its going - but in truth I am already looking for a big cyber wave to surf out to look for pastures new .
Peace S n G xxx

Good Morning Both.
After reading all that I only have one question >>>>
You are not leaving us though, are you confused: :?:
phredd.
OK I can't be arsed reading through the 20-odd pages of posts, so sorry if these questions have been asked before;
1) Who are these guys who have bought the web-site? I don't mean their usernames, I mean the company name?
2) They say they run some dating sites as well, so can you post links to your other sites so we can see how they are set up and run?
3) These "new and exciting" (Legal disclaimersillyarapharasing. May not actually have been said.) features that you'll be charging for, what exactly are they and when are you thinking of implementing them?
I must admit I'm a little disappointed with Mark and the fact he didn't tell us that he was considering selling the place. I'm sure that the community could have banded together to maybe match the offer and then the place would have at least been in the hands of folks we actually knew. Or did you guys just come in and offer him a wad of cash and a time-limit?
I suppose it's all academic really. If the site remains relatively unchanged then it'll probably keep it's regular user base. If it doesn't then we'll probably walk en-mass as Mr. J Sir mentioned earlier.
Calista summed it up, but i'll condense it. There's nothing we can do about the take-over. It's done and dusted. All we can do is wait and see what the site becomes and if we don't like it then we leave and find somewhere else on-line that's free and fun to call home.
Oh and to the new owners, if you're planning on trying to get any money out of the current userbase, forget it. Most of this lot have been around the web a while, and are tighter than a camels arse in a sandstorm when it comes to the pay-site thing.
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OK I can't be arsed reading through the 20-odd pages of posts, so sorry if these questions have been asked before;
1) Who are these guys who have bought the web-site? I don't mean their usernames, I mean the company name?
2) They say they run some dating sites as well, so can you post links to your other sites so we can see how they are set up and run?
3) These "new and exciting" (Legal disclaimersillyarapharasing. May not actually have been said.) features that you'll be charging for, what exactly are they and when are you thinking of implementing them?
I must admit I'm a little disappointed with Mark and the fact he didn't tell us that he was considering selling the place. I'm sure that the community could have banded together to maybe match the offer and then the place would have at least been in the hands of folks we actually knew. Or did you guys just come in and offer him a wad of cash and a time-limit?
I suppose it's all academic really. If the site remains relatively unchanged then it'll probably keep it's regular user base. If it doesn't then we'll probably walk en-mass as Mr. J Sir mentioned earlier.
Calista summed it up, but i'll condense it. There's nothing we can do about the take-over. It's done and dusted. All we can do is wait and see what the site becomes and if we don't like it then we leave and find somewhere else on-line that's free and fun to call home.
Oh and to the new owners, if you're planning on trying to get any money out of the current userbase, forget it. Most of this lot have been around the web a while, and are tighter than a camels arse in a sandstorm when it comes to the pay-site thing.

well said easy we are feeling ye wink
Hello to Elliot, Nick, Steve and Martin
:welcome: to :swingingchair: Heaven
Thought I'd give you a few days to settle in before posting a question.
I'd like to know your personal views on swinging and swingers? I ask the question not because as the new owners of the site you need to have any interest in swinging, but because you've stated that you maybe attending some of the social events
Now 3 of the principles I live by are
Open & honest
Respect peoples choices
No means no
so if you choosenot to answer that's fine, but if you doplease be honest :thumbup:
I keep reading things that i agree with, Silk and Big G being the latest... although i hope they do decide to stay I know how they feel and i think a lot of other regulars are wondering if we are going to become the freak show to pull punters in.
I'm going to stick around and see how it goes, but personally i think there'll be a steady decline in posters of the calibre of S and G and others, or we'll be hamstrung by commercialism that makes certain topics forbidden or hard to post on.
There are loads of other concerns, but above and beyond everything I'd like to see this community stick together and as importantly the "spirit" remain... if either of those things go, then the decline will be inevitable and sharp and we'll all pretty much end up elsewhere i think.
Excellent post S n G ..... I'm going tohang around a while though.
Good points by Silk & BigG and Postie,
This is of course one of the problems even if the current content stays 100% free for those of us who are already here. It is inevitable that the posts, pictures, stories, parties etc. that are done by the current membership will be used as an advertising tool to make money.
Of course this does mean the new owners are probably being quite honest about their intentions to keep the site free for current members - in the end they couldn't get better advertising for the site if they tried.
I am not quite sure how I feel about that though - I am not very keen on what I type for pleasure being used by someone else to make money however if it means this community is able to stay together maybe it is worth it?
Roger the Dragon cool
The new owners have clearly said who they are and posted their web address in here.... just go and find it dunno
Yes everything that has been said on this page of the thread has got merit, and indeed could well be what happens to SH BUT It is down to the community to ensure that the changes to the core areas namely the forums and chat are as minimal as is also down to the community to keep the community alive.
Yes there could well be pop ups all over the place, but we've all got ad blockers haven't we?? As far as people coming to the site to look at the freak show........ that happens already doesn't it?........ Isn't this why we are careful with the locations of socials and munches, to stop the press (amongst others) getting involved.
On that topic, is it really in the Symbios Group interest to be associated with what the News of the Screws or the other crap press may or may not say about us from time to time. OK the press can view the site and comment as they already do, but I think the new owners would be just as upset as the rest of us if for instance the security of a social or munch was breached.
On intellectual property rights and pictures......... lets get an assurance from the new guys that any pictures we post will stay on the site and not be used elsewhere. Do also remember If I was that dishonest, I or any one else could simply nick what is on display and use it elsewhere already......... you could eventually catch up with me but it would probably take a very long time........... so is this really as big a problem as it seems?
Please do not think I am pro what is happening to this site, because I was as saddened as everyone else was, and yes if everything that has been posted does happen, then H and me will also have to go to pastures anew........... what I am saying is lets all at least try to keep this community alive..... We have enjoyed reading what a lot of you have written and we look forward to meeting a lot of you in the future either socially or maybe more intimately. That connot possibly happen if we all scatter and head for the hills......... and that would be very sad sad
We found one of the other Swingers Sites run by Symbios, and it was not good news. (Thanks to Evie)
We were a member of this site for a while, but gave up because of the frustrations of needing to be a paid up member to really properly use the service. I know this is not quite what they want to do here, but we did have these concerns about the site :
1) It promotes members pics in a 'swingers gallery'. Which it then promotes through all sorts of keyword links on google, as more or less porn pics. I don't think most people here would be overly happy if the pics they posted on their ads were then put into a gallery, and matched up with all sorts of keywords on google, aimed at horny men.
2) It isn't clear when you sign up for free membership what you can and can't do. It is only once you have taken the time to load up your information, write your profile etc, that you learn that you need to be a paid up member to properly use the service. You then end up with a site full of innactive free members, who never return after filling in their initial profile, once they realise they need to pay.
Our request (and we can only make a request) is that when Swinging Heaven is revamped, that the site is promoted as something for those interested in Swinging, and not on the basis that you can see lots of porn pics of real couples. Secondly we would also like it to be 100% clear to potential members, before they sign up what they will and won't be able to access for free. By this we mean not hidden away in terms and conditions.
This site has become the best of the Swingers sites in the UK, without the need for tricks, so although the site will now be aimed at making a profit, it would be great if the way it was promoted would remain honest and clear. Lets make it about swinging, and not the free pics.
If anyone wants to see a link for the site just send us a PM. We know this site belongs to Symbios, as it displays their company address in the contact area.
Tim & Lene