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Quote by Martin_M
Dear Mr Ben
Thanks for your input, we already know that some people resist change on all accounts.
The only things I can say on this note is as follows
1. Kick us when you have a reason to, when we do not deliver what we promise then feel free to kick me hard and fast from behind!. Until then it seems a little unfair unless there is something else behind it?.
2. Without improvement to things we would all still be driving around in Ford Modal T s. Live in huts in a forest somewhere and certainly would not be using the web or own a computer.
Its ok to resist change, it really is but good improvements to something that is good?
Martin

Ben, Martin is right on this one sorry......... He runs a business to make money. His business has just bought SH......... it too will need to make money.
We have concerns about the changes this will make to the SH community, but Martin is at least listening.
We do not know what will happen yet, but it is wrong to judge just because SH is now part of a profit making concern. Lets see the changes then judge.
M
Edited to add that if setting up a successful forum such as SH is so easy why doesn't everybody do it?
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
They'll be nobody left o kick you when the loyal memberships splintered. I'm guessing but i'd say there's a good 99% chance you'll ruin this site. I belive the loyal members should go create their own free site beofre it's too late

Go on then, off you go wave
I'm staying here with my mates and a community I have never seen before on any other site :smug:
I'm waiting to kick Martins backside :kick:
Quote by Dawn_Mids
They'll be nobody left o kick you when the loyal memberships splintered. I'm guessing but i'd say there's a good 99% chance you'll ruin this site. I belive the loyal members should go create their own free site beofre it's too late

Go on then, off you go wave
I'm staying here with my mates and a community I have never seen before on any other site :smug:
I'm waiting to kick Martins backside :kick:
Dawn passionkiss :cheers:
Quote by Dawn_Mids
They'll be nobody left o kick you when the loyal memberships splintered. I'm guessing but i'd say there's a good 99% chance you'll ruin this site. I belive the loyal members should go create their own free site beofre it's too late

Go on then, off you go wave
I'm staying here with my mates and a community I have never seen before on any other site :smug:
I'm waiting to kick Martins backside :kick:
I have no intention of doing it. Im not one of the close-knit community. I'll lose nothing.
I think you're very naive. It's your loss.
I'm not being malicious. I think it's the only way YOU (not me) and your friends will hold your community together.
Ignore me if you want.
Quote by Martin_M
Dear Mr Ben
Thanks for your input, we already know that some people resist change on all accounts.
The only things I can say on this note is as follows
1. Kick us when you have a reason to, when we do not deliver what we promise then feel free to kick me hard and fast from behind!. Until then it seems a little unfair unless there is something else behind it?.

Babe .............. much more painful if you are kicked from the front ??? :giggle:
Quote by Martin_M
2. Without improvement to things we would all still be driving around in Ford Modal T s. Live in huts in a forest somewhere and certainly would not be using the web or own a computer.
Its ok to resist change, it really is but good improvements to something that is good?
Martin

I am staying with my mates too ! Coz u r all still here .................... Another little point ........ it was bought coz its successful .............so why would they want to make it less successful ????? kiss
:smoke: Can we have a smokers room ? :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
I wouldn't trust Symbios with my hamster!

I would.
But only if they promised to wrap it in plenty of cling film first :shock:
Quote by Martin_M
Dear Mr Ben
Thanks for your input, we already know that some people resist change on all accounts.
The only things I can say on this note is as follows
1. Kick us when you have a reason to, when we do not deliver what we promise then feel free to kick me hard and fast from behind!. Until then it seems a little unfair unless there is something else behind it?.
2. Without improvement to things we would all still be driving around in Ford Modal T s. Live in huts in a forest somewhere and certainly would not be using the web or own a computer.
Its ok to resist change, it really is but good improvements to something that is good?
Martin

Well said Martin_M
And - for all the doubters . . . . . .
Quote by he also
kick me hard and fast from behind!

You see - they came, they saw, they learnt.
They're already coming round to our ways.
Not swingers - pfaaaahhh ! ! ! ! !
Not YET ! ! ! ! !
Mwaaahahahaa
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
They'll be nobody left to kick you when the loyal memberships splintered. I'm guessing but i'd say there's a good 99% chance you'll ruin this site. I belive the loyal members should go create their own free site beofre it's too late.
Also - I'm not resistant to change, just bad ideas. In particular the commercialisation of communities.
PS - Note, I have no personal gripe with you. Nor am I tree-huggin anti-capitalist.I believe your ruin this site, even if you intend ot or not. Keep it 100% free and make no profit and you might have a chance. This site will fail because the cost of the improvements is the paying of your wages.

Well you've made your point. It is pretty obvious things will not be the same - none of the changes will be approved of by all. However, the overall proof of the pudding is in the eating. Most are prepared, in a pragmatic way, to see what the pudding tastes like. Then it is the time to make your personal judgement - everything else is prejudice!
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
I think you're very naive. It's your loss.

You don't know me so please don't presume anything about me rolleyes
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Ignore me if you want.

OK biggrin
Ben, have you considered how different things would have been today if nobody had stepped forward to buy the site?
Swinging Heaven would now, or very shortly, be nothing but a memory.
lhk
Kat
Quote by Dawn_Mids
I think you're very naive. It's your loss.

You don't know me so please don't presume anything about me rolleyes
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Ignore me if you want.

OK biggrin
rotflmao :rotflmao:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by westerross
Well you've made your point. It is pretty obvious things will not be the same - none of the changes will be approved of by all. However, the overall proof of the pudding is in the eating. Most are prepared, in a pragmatic way, to see what the pudding tastes like. Then it is the time to make your personal judgement - everything else is prejudice!

Just as long as it doesn't taste of bloody marmite :shock: :eeek:
PS - I don't kick
I bite!
Best of luck to you. I hope SH works for you
For the good or the bad of the "NEW" Swinging Heaven, we should all go away and put boxing gloves on to stop the use of the keuboard and let the "NEW" owners get on with what they have promissed.
Just put mine on so >>>>>>>>>>> Bye for now.
phredd = (oops to the NEW owners fred aka medic 1)
i think Green is a peacefull colour.

still like the idea of a Cash Till ringtone lol
Quote by Dawn_Mids
Well you've made your point. It is pretty obvious things will not be the same - none of the changes will be approved of by all. However, the overall proof of the pudding is in the eating. Most are prepared, in a pragmatic way, to see what the pudding tastes like. Then it is the time to make your personal judgement - everything else is prejudice!

Just as long as it doesn't taste of bloody marmite :shock: :eek:
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Totally nowt to do with the "kerfuffle" - but hey - shoot me. I've been thrown out of better threads than this flipa
The single most thing I miss about not having my 'tache any longer is that I can't still "taste" HLB in the mornings, or a for a couple of hours afterwards like when the flavour and essence used to hang around.
Something just happened and she said "That's one for the "Marmite Thread" - but Dawnie brought marmite up here. (So it's her fault )
BUT - I've just discovered the wonderous taste of . . . . . .
Pussy on toast :shock:
Quote by Martin_M
Secondly you can have a private invite gallery that you can manage, this is useful to send peeps that you are interested in passwords for that expire at set times.
Martin

Martin, at present Jon and I host our pics on our own web pages, with a link to that page on our signature on SH.
Will we still be able to do this, or must any pics be hosted on SH in future in order for people to see them?
We've never had a SH pics page and would prefer to keep it that way, but are not sure if you are going to allow outside links to such pages, as is the case at present?
Tracy-Jayne
Well... I was going to stick around and watch with the sort of fascination I'd watch a dead fox decompose in the road.
Hope you don't mind. biggrin
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Well... I was going to stick around and watch with the sort of fascination I'd watch a dead fox decompose in the road.
Hope you don't mind. biggrin

Don't be such a twat.
Somebody else might come along and exlpain that a little better, but I can't be arsed.
The last point to cover was made that we promote pictures to single men to join etc, this is not the case because of what is above. If you can validate your statement we would investigate it.
Martin

Martin, if you like I can send you a list of URLs supporting this. I think you would call them mirror sites. These include some mirror sited, connecting the site to 'escorts'. This was I believe just an attempt to pull in visitors from google, but it is the kind of thing I wouldn't like on Swinging Heaven. It would be unnecessary and would change the atmosphere here.
I will post the URLs on a separate message. I am not sure if this is allowed, but if so they can be deleted.
Quote by dambuster
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Totally nowt to do with the "kerfuffle" - but hey - shoot me. I've been thrown out of better threads than this flipa
The single most thing I miss about not having my 'tache any longer is that I can't still "taste" HLB in the mornings, or a for a couple of hours afterwards like when the flavour and essence used to hang around.
Something just happened and she said "That's one for the "Marmite Thread" - but Dawnie brought marmite up here. (So it's her fault )
BUT - I've just discovered the wonderous taste of . . . . . .
Pussy on toast :shock:

OI Dammie, you can't blame where you put your posts on me :lol2:
You know I still prefer no 'tache' so you will have to find another place to store your 'pussy flavourings' :rotflmao:
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Well... I was going to stick around and watch with the sort of fascination I'd watch a dead fox decompose in the road.

:shock: What a strange world you must live in, if that's what you spend your time doing :shock: confused
T-J
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Well... I was going to stick around and watch with the sort of fascination I'd watch a dead fox decompose in the road.
Hope you don't mind. biggrin
Well, you have spent so much time bleating like a sheep today, it is hardly surprising that the site of a dead predator would be of interest to you.
Look out your window - do you see the four horsemen of the Apocalypse bearing down on you? No? Then you can be fairly sure that the world is not ending because of this.
lhk
Kat
Quote by postie
I keep reading things that i agree with, Silk and Big G being the latest... although i hope they do decide to stay I know how they feel and i think a lot of other regulars are wondering if we are going to become the freak show to pull punters in.
I'm going to stick around and see how it goes, but personally i think there'll be a steady decline in posters of the calibre of S and G and others, or we'll be hamstrung by commercialism that makes certain topics forbidden or hard to post on.
There are loads of other concerns, but above and beyond everything I'd like to see this community stick together and as importantly the "spirit" remain... if either of those things go, then the decline will be inevitable and sharp and we'll all pretty much end up elsewhere i think.
Excellent post S n G ..... I'm going tohang around a while though.

cheers xx
You know, a lot of the people are worrying about what the new owners will do to the site!
If we can get Martin and Elliott and the rest to a few Munches might to turn out that we can ASSIMULATE them. Resistance is futile!!
Which of the beautiful ladies on this site looks closest to 7of9 then?
John & Shel
Quote by Dawn_Mids
Well you've made your point. It is pretty obvious things will not be the same - none of the changes will be approved of by all. However, the overall proof of the pudding is in the eating. Most are prepared, in a pragmatic way, to see what the pudding tastes like. Then it is the time to make your personal judgement - everything else is prejudice!

Just as long as it doesn't taste of bloody marmite :shock: :eeek:
Any objections if I hang around a bit too? No plans on leaving just yet. I've never tried Marmite, so I don't know if I like it or not. Can I smear some on your breasticals, Dawn? That'd give it the best chance of a positive association for me biggrin
Chris.
Quote by Mr Ben and friends
Well... I was going to stick around and watch with the sort of fascination I'd watch a dead fox decompose in the road.

But if you ran it over in the first place and didn't take avoiding action dunno
I really believe that SH will never be the same again, that is inevitable. It was changing anyway as it became more popular as a "perving site" for disillusioned males (not wholly, or solely I should add). That is why the Photo ads section gets so much traffic.
How much it changes as a community is really down to the members, those on here now and on a regular basis.
So, if you don't take avoiding action or actually "drive", you're going to run over that fox and sit there watching it decompose.
(Before anyone shouts "newbie", Phoenix is a resurection of an earlier username)
well i have read all the posts on here and its took a hell of a long good others very bad and worried that the sh we love will be lost forever sad but the overriding fact of the matter is sh has new owners and wheather thats good or bad will ultimatly be down to the new owners and what they wish to do with the new owners aint stupid they know if they make a pigs ear implementing the new features that they want to put on here and then god forbid they start charging to use the site then the site will surely die and a cloned sh site will be new owners have clearly got a tough job ahead to keep the members of this wonderfull site happy but like so many others i am in no position to judge untill i see the changes to the site and then and only then can we have a genuine rant if the changes promised(free to all users) are put on the site. i wish the new owners all the best and i hope you make this site even better than it is today which is not going to be easy
Quote by marmalaid
Well you've made your point. It is pretty obvious things will not be the same - none of the changes will be approved of by all. However, the overall proof of the pudding is in the eating. Most are prepared, in a pragmatic way, to see what the pudding tastes like. Then it is the time to make your personal judgement - everything else is prejudice!

Just as long as it doesn't taste of bloody marmite :shock: :eeek:
Any objections if I hang around a bit too? No plans on leaving just yet. I've never tried Marmite, so I don't know if I like it or not. Can I smear some on your breasticals, Dawn? That'd give it the best chance of a positive association for me biggrin
Chris.
Dawnie ............... say NO coz he owes me a poodle with 4 legs! :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Martin_M
Something else i forgot about pictures
Watermarking, at the moment when you upload your pictures it puts the site name on it. We will improve the way it works based on the following.
1. The location of the watermark is on one edge, this means that you could have your pics cropped and used elsewhere without your consent.
We will use a clear but visable watermark that goes accross the middle to ensure ths can not happen, basically it will make your pics non useable if someone was to take them from the site.
Martin :P

Thats great but one thing I have to say...
Just make sure it doesnt obscure any nipples(female of course) biggrin :D
Sorry.....Will go back in my corner now.. sad
Quote by Earlier, I
All that blurb about pics and stuff

Quote by Martin_M
We will use a clear but visable watermark that goes accross the middle to ensure ths can not happen, basically it will make your pics non useable if someone was to take them from the site.
Martin :P

Is not possible through techy wizardry to stop people taking the pics from this site ?
That was actually what I was trying to ask.
(I'm a little more awake now redface )
mr ben.............
it would be prudent to read the subsequent pages in full.....we have all voiced our concerns in some way or other...or our support.....
the fact is "yes...we have a new owner"......weve argued.....sulked....ranted...raved.......in some cases i have been involved in this...
but martin especially has answered what he can and like the rest of us we can only wait and see what will happen as he has asked......
martin himself has made mistakes....but he has apologised for how they came about....cut the guy some slack and wait with the rest of us......
TBH if id have out up with the flack he has i might have been so pissed off id of made comments such as he has....were like a group of legal eagles who pick out any mistakes hes made in posting.......
i wouldnt be surprised if...once all this has settled he might save some money on having us fight his legal battles for him smile :)
so im afraid its a case of put up or shut up m8.....the site is still free....
(telephone call between martin and others at the office)
martin.....ok you lot....whos gonna be posting on the forums tomorrow........
the rest......silence.....................
martin....oh come on.....they arent that bad are they.......
the rest.....(a few sobs can be heard)
martin....oh bugger!!!!!!!!!!!