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he gets on my tits because you can hear him shouting for miles im sorry but someone getting on your tits doesnt mean you dont respect them and what they do alot of people get on my tits like my mum sometimes doesnt mean i dont respect her

Perhaps if he has to shout to increase his sales and aford his rehabilitation into society its a small price for you to pay having to listen to him?
Would you rather he sat on his ass all day wainting for the benefit fairy to arrive?
Have you everr thought he might manage to get on to someone elses computer and see your remarks and he would feel, when all hes trying to do is beter himself?
so what if he got onto someones computer? personally i couldnt give a flying make out they have no choice they are homeless, everyone has a choice!!!!!!! and to be quite thruthfulli couldnt give a fuck if he sat on his arse waiting for the benefit fairy to arrive im sure him being on benefit's isnt going to effect the state of the union much!!!. plus he's doing the same thing!! he's still scrounging off people, however you look at!!!!!.
im not a heartless bitch u know u just over reacting!!! and being out of order!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you baliffs, i love it when people come on here and show their true colours.
Maybe one day when your down and need help you will remember what you have said above.(doubt it though!!)
As foir scrounging, i think if you had ever read the issue you would know that is not so but maybe it gooes over your head??
For me , one of the most moving posts that i have ever read on here is from Riff Raff and was posted just before Christmas last year on a thread i started on the Big Issue. i have copied and pasted it below because it is such a wonderful post and i doubt anyone with a heart can read it and the say they selling the Big Issue is scrounging.
Riff Raff Wrote
For a lot of people it is not a matter of choice.
I was homeless for the best part of ten years. It most certainly was not a lifestyle choice.
For only a relatively short period of that time was I actually street homeless i.e. living in doorways in Charing Cross in sub-zero temperatures.
Most of the time was spent squatting in derelict buildings, no water, no heat, no light, no furniture, etc etc
And there is the other sort of homelessness that I have experienced but which doesn't grab the headlines............sharing dormitories in overcrowded hostels run by exploitative landlords as so accurately described above by Neilinleeds. If Dickens were about today, etc.
People find themselves homeless for all manner of reasons...........abusive families, relationship breakdown, armed forces cutbacks, alcoholism, addiction, physical and mental problems, etc.
Similarly, homeless people come from diverse backgrounds.
I loathe the uninformed generalisations that are applied to the homeless.
I detest the lazy stereotyping of homeless people.
I equally abhor simplistic analysis and proposed solutions.
Try getting a job when you have no fixed abode.
Try holding on to documents that might help you get a job when you have nowhere safe to keep them.
Try keeping your body clean or your clothes laundered when you are living in a doorway.
Try to exude confidence and self-esteem in a job application or at an interview when you know you've just come from an abandoned, filthy, rat-infested building.
Before people propose their facile remedies they might like to find out what it really is like to live in grinding poverty without a roof over thier head. And I don't mean these publicity stunts that are favoured by MPs where they spend a week in a hostel. They still have well-shod feet and fine threads on their backs. They don't carry out their little social experiments long enough for holes to appear in their shoes. And they have the knowledge that their adventure will only last for seven days. I doubt if they'd be so bouyant if they had to endure those conditions day after day, month after month with no end in sight. That is spirit-crushing. Try "a few common sense rules...washing " when you are subsisting at that that level of despair, Mr I-had-to-work-bluddy-hard-to-get-where-I am-today.
There is no doubt that many BI sellers have substance misuse problems.
Just as many do not. So what. There are many actors and musicians who openly flaunt their drug-using. Am I to boycott their films and records ? But for the libel laws I would name several major retail brands that are headed by people with cocaine problems. Am I to eschew these products also?
I did not get out of my longterm homelessness predicament because I "took reponsibility for myself" or "obeyed a few commonsense rules."
I was fortunate enough to get help at a time and in circumstances where I was able to accept it. The context was important. Without going into detail, there were many times when I would not have been able to accept help even it was there. Alas, for many people the help is never available.
I am most grateful for the help I got.
It was a modest start and the timing was crucial.
I was offered a place at a half-way house from the street to what would eventually become a bedsit tenancy. Neither the half-way nor the bedsit could be described as palaces. From this base I got a place in college. And I decided to give back to society by being of use to those who were still living in circumstances like those I had recently left. That was seventeen years ago. I customised my degree to equip myself for working with the homeless and the addicted. And I'm bloody good at my job. Not so much because of my academic qualifications (though they are excellent too) but because of my experience.
Another way that i try to serve people who find themselves in situations similar to thos e that I came from is by challenging the ignorance and prejudice that many people show when discussing this issue. That's why I've taken more time in my contribution to this thread than I possibly have done for any other SH topic to date.
There is not a day goes by that I do not recall exactly where I came from.
And feel grateful for what I've got today. I am not a rich man in material trerms. I've got a modest little home now, a few possessions, nice wheels, etc. And that's about it materially. No big deal. What matters far more is the dignity that I've now got that was a million miles away and seemingly unattainable while I was homeless. That is priceless.
And I fight hard to maintain that self-respect. It's a precious and fragile commodidity for someone with my experience. There were plenty of people who tried to erode it a score or more years ago with their judgemental attitudes.
I have no more time for these people now than I had then.
I would rather spend time chatting with a BI vendor than hobnobbing with the "get a job and and get your together" crew.
And I do.
Don't be so hasty to judge people until you have walked at least a mile in their shoes.
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Both Foxy and Bailiffs,
Why not just call it a day on this bickering, you both have your own options, and all your doing now is winding each other up and baiting the other to say something that they will later come to regret and that now seems to be the case... I can show compasion to others, but in the end it changes little... The most precious thing I can give someone is my time... and I often do that to the elderly on my postal walk... Its takes nothing to be polite, civil and to just listen.. Even if it bores the hell out of me.. I know I've made them that little bit happier.
My point of view is someone has to be at the bottom, their always will be. Its the pecking order of life.. and will continue like well beyond our life times.
But remember this without a bottom the top would collapses! So true in many a social / economic structure.
Quote by Shikukai
Both Foxy and Bailiffs,
Why not just call it a day on this bickering, you both have your own options, and all your doing now is winding each other up and baiting the other to say something that they will later come to regret and that now seems to be the case...
My point of view is someone has to be at the bottom, their always will be. Its the pecking order of life.. and will continue like well beyond our life times.
But remember this without a bottom the top would collapses! So true in many a social / economic structure.

I understand youzare trying to defend you friend but if she is old enough to be here she should be old enough to defend herself.
As for her having a go at me well i can assure you i am more than capable of loking after myself, unfortunatlely the people she is having ago at can not defend themselves!!
As for the top of our society colapsing, would that be such a bad thinkg?
society needs a bloody good shake up
and the big issue is brill buy it you stingy gits
can i pull out my big red flag now
and do my silly walk around the room
ok no
i wont
:twisted:
Quote by foxylady 123
Both Foxy and Bailiffs,
Why not just call it a day on this bickering, you both have your own options, and all your doing now is winding each other up and baiting the other to say something that they will later come to regret and that now seems to be the case...
My point of view is someone has to be at the bottom, their always will be. Its the pecking order of life.. and will continue like well beyond our life times.
But remember this without a bottom the top would collapses! So true in many a social / economic structure.

I understand you zare trying to defend you friend but is she is old enough to be here she should be old enough to defend herself.
As for her having a go at me will i can assure you i am more than capable of loking after myself, unfortunatlely the people she is having ago at can not defend themselves!!
As for the top of our society colapsing, would that be such a bad thinkg?
Yes, without a top to society, the social order and cohesion would break down, millions would take to the streets selling Big Issues, which wouldn't help the homeless at all.
There are those who have nowhere to turn, no-one to turn to for help, but those who're selling the Big Issue are those who have decided to get help themselves, to make something of themselves as is the aim of the magazine itself. In a democratic society, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, however biased/predujiced/misinformed they might be.
Unless those views affect others, especially the one's in those views, then people should be entitled to them, without having others belittle and berate them when those people might not know more themselves. A healthy debate is a God-given freedom, but agitating and provocation have no place anywhere.
Big Dewi
If those comments were aimed at me then i would ask you to read back and see that bakllifs first posted by saying she felt that her local big issue seller "got on her tits"
I found that comment excuatingly unkind and directed towards someone who was clearly worknig hard to better himself and had no way of replying to the comment. Homelessness iss a far too common and soul destroying situation to be in and i found the comment very offensive.
Free speech should be open to all but one would hope that nowadys most people would be able to think beyond, my , myslef and I, Unfortunately that is often not the case
Quote by JudyTV
I happen to have came up through the gutter.......and in those days there wasnt the help so we dont need ridicule............I'm one at the top now an I came the hard way.....try taking it off me............bollox...no chance............maybe a lesson is to go and try it !

MOMF, I don't hear anyone trying to take anything from you, Why are you being so aggressive? surely it isn't necessary to be so threatening here. I don't see anyone threatening you in any way.
For heaven sake surely there is no need for this kind of talk and aggressive behaviour, do you have something to prove with this tough guy attitude? This was just a trhread about people being stoped in supermatkets and telesales, its not about how tough we all are.
Judy

Judy
To many people homlesness and the redicule of those that find themselves in that state is a very emotional issue. Its something we care about (for various reasons) passionately
Can i ask how you think you would re act if someone posted that a crossdressr "got on their tits"?
You know what... started reading this....and then started scrollling.. c'mon.... you have one opinion of a BI seller and some people have another.....
I have mine....
but to start a full blown row over it??? Are you going to ever change the other persons opinion? Are you? Here?
No....
...do you really want to fall out with people over such a minor issue.... it certainly isn't a big issue... (pun intended)
So, what was the original question???
Myself.. i hate those bloody annoying "pre-recorded" calls... normally with an Amrican accent.... (though i try and pretend it is Ocky-Sweeties talking to me...)
Quote by foxylady 123
Big Dewi
If those comments were aimed at me then i would ask you to read back and see that bakllifs first posted by saying she felt that her local big issue seller "got on her tits"
I found that comment excuatingly unkind and directed towards someone who was clearly worknig hard to better himself and had no way of replying to the comment. Homelessness iss a far too common and soul destroying situation to be in and i found the comment very offensive.
Free speech should be open to all but one would hope that nowadys most people would be able to think beyond, my , myslef and I, Unfortunately that is often not the case

I was using the "discussion" between you and Bailiffs as an example, but it's meant in a general tone towards everyone on here (would be more, but who else will read it confused )
And I believe she said she was annoyed because of his shouting, rather than because he was selling the Big Issue ( I think)
Just double checked, and she did. Although she can confirm it when she comes online. (and sees the 3 page thread started from it :shock: lol)
Quote by foxylady 123
Judy
Can i ask how you think you would re act if someone posted that a crossdresser "got on their tits"?

OMG .... using the "cross-dresser" and "getting on their tits" in the same sentance , just shouldn't be allowed...
I am sooooooo waiting for the first pun.....I would make it... but I aint sharp enough!
The English language is very diverse; you can mean one thing but be interpreted in another way.
"If anyone gives in charity something equal to a date from his honestly earned money--for nothing ascends to God except good--then God will take it in His Right (Hand) and bring it up for its owner as anyone of you brings up a baby horse, until it becomes like a mountain...Nothing ascends to God except good."
But enofe of the scripture and back to the original question, no I don’t get annoyed, if I can’t stop I just say sorry I can’t stop. But I don’t get stopped that much anyhows.
A surefire way to make sure you're not bothered by the people carrying out surveys in the streets and shopping centres is to say when accosted by them that you work for a marketing firm yourself. It always works for me anyway, they instantly move on to the next person. They don't want to interview people who work in marketing or advertising.
Mike.
Quote by MikeNorth
A surefire way to make sure you're not bothered by the people carrying out surveys in the streets and shopping centres is to say when accosted by them that you work for a marketing firm yourself. It always works for me anyway, they instantly move on to the next person. They don't want to interview people who work in marketing or advertising.
Mike.

I will have to remember that one biggrin
Alan,
I think your right with regard to how our written words are supposed to be read, humour and emotion just cant translate on posts as well as the spoken word.. I think a lot of whats been put on this thread today was only meant in jest, but has been received by others as sarcasm.
I'm still getting the hang of these Emoticons to convey the tone of my posts.. Though to be honest I dont like using them, but they do allow readers to hopefully show the emotion or tone of my posts/mails.
Now until the human form evolves hopefully in a few more millennia, we will always have greed and selfishness as part of our lives. We cant change this attitude in our life time, its embedded into our human nature... Have we thought about those born into poverty / slavery. The clothes on our back, may have been made by a small asian child who earns only a dollar a day, probably not is the answer? Poverty is all around us and there really is little we can do, simply because we as a race cant see past our own noses...
We as swingers perhaps have a better perception than others???? Unlike most couples we dont treat our partners as possessions but as individuals with their own needs and personas, we generally have equality our relationships (Well hopefully we do). Pity we cant have equality in society........Yet!
Right back to the original tread.. I can stand recieving all that junk mail we get through the door all the time... Worse still I hate posting it, most of us just chuck it in the bin... Really makes my job feel worthwhile that!!!! wink
God I've waffled on a bit again rolleyes
Quote by Shikukai
.. Worse still I hate posting it, most of us just chuck it in the bin... Really makes my job feel worthwhile that!!!!

Seeing as we are talking about mis-understandings.... I think my colleague means.... we all throw our junk mail in the bin at home........ no one hates junk mail like us posties...but we wouldn't put mail in the bin....
except at home.... me included...
Thanks for clarifying that fact, Postie.... lol
Finally a bit of humour to this thread... Looked as if it was turning to the Dark Side for a minute. :lol:
I always thought the best way to deal with them (especially Jehovas), if you had the time, was just to get totally engrossed in what theyre saying, agree to sign up for everything, waste a good ten minutes of their working day, then just smile and say no thank you as you walk away? Well that's what I do. Maybe it's a worthy distraction as I detest shopping! One exception though, is that I always give to animal charities, especially cats. I don't know what it is about animals but it really gets to me to hear of them abused. That's definetly one thing my friends would say annoys them about me, I'm too giving towards animal charities. I think it's true that if you gave the suggested donation per month to all of them, that theres so many it would start costing a lot of money, but I think a few pence in the street when I'm strolling through town is acceptable. Also another thing I don't begrudge is petitions, it only takes 30 seconds to sign a piece of paper, even if you don't listen to every detail in the inevitable spiel. But of course, people trying to sell you insurance or a credit card when your shopping for beans is too much, that I think we could all do without! Rant over!
Lew x
P.S. Thats the first time I ever wrote "Rant over" in a forum post. I feel so righteous!
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I just take my dog(a big Akita) with me everywhere. If I'm approached all I say is "I haven't fed him yet" and they seem to go away. lmao
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Quote by MikeNorth
A surefire way to make sure you're not bothered by the people carrying out surveys in the streets and shopping centres is to say when accosted by them that you work for a marketing firm yourself. It always works for me anyway, they instantly move on to the next person. They don't want to interview people who work in marketing or advertising.
Mike.

I used to be in the Royal Naval Reserve and we had to sign the Official Secrets Act. If I remember correctly, those who sign that aren't allowed to become involved in research or marketing polls, so just tell them you're in HM Forces and can't help them.
Quote by JudyTV
I happen to have came up through the gutter.......and in those days there wasnt the help so we dont need ridicule............I'm one at the top now an I came the hard way.....try taking it off me............bollox...no chance............maybe a lesson is to go and try it !

MOMF, I don't hear anyone trying to take anything from you, Why are you being so aggressive? surely it isn't necessary to be so threatening here. I don't see anyone threatening you in any way.
For heaven sake surely there is no need for this kind of talk and aggressive behaviour, do you have something to prove with this tough guy attitude? This was just a trhread about people being stoped in supermatkets and telesales, its not about how tough we all are.
Judy

Judy
To many people homlesness and the redicule of those that find themselves in that state is a very emotional issue. Its something we care about (for various reasons) passionately
Can i ask how you think you would re act if someone posted that a crossdressr "got on their tits"?
It wouldn't bother me over much as its all been said before so neither you or anyone else would be the first to say it, don't really see your point here either as I didn't even say it. I would imagine that I have got onto many peoples tits over the years but I wouldn't be the only one. I don't really know why your asking me that question as it wasn't me who said it in the first place. I suppose you just want someone else to take to task now so just go ahead. There are a lot of people and a lot of things get on my tits, metaphorically speaking of course. People who take things out of context are just one of them.
Just like Baiiffs, I don't give a fuck either, and the guy who sells the big issue on Canal Street and insists on following me down the street and saying "Oh go on its just a quid love" and wont take no for an answer does no one any favours and I wont buy anything from him for that reason. I notice he always seems to have enough money to spend a great deal of his spare time in Churchill's Bar buying alcohol which he is entitled to do of course just as the rest of us. However most of us don't pester others by asking them for money and follow them down the Street. He certainly isn't homeless either he lives in a flat over near Oldham Street.
Maybe he spends his money in a bar to get company? Maybe the reason he has a flat is because hes working?
This is just another thread that has got out of hand and you wanted to take Bailiffs to task for voicing their opinion. Now you want to do the same for me responding to someone else and to something that wasn't even your post. Carry on though, rip away.
Baliffs brought the issue of homelessnes not me, it wasnt the subject of the original question which was about sales peopel which is a totaly diffefrent judy i wasnt by any means ripping away. i was responding to the way you had accussed momf of being aggressive about a subject that was clezrly close to his heart and asking you to put yourself in his shoes, always a good exercise dont you think?
Its not about homelessness and the ridicule of those that find themselves in that state at all. The thread was about being pestered by people we don't want to buy things from and from people who stop to ask us questions in Supermarkets. But you have made it an issue about something totally different and want to be argumentative to people. So just get on with it, like I said I don't really give a fuck. No i havnt , you are trying to blame me because i asked you to consider somenone elses point of view, and tbh im suprised at you!!You of all people i would have expected more tolerance from.
Judy
If I am on the move I just look at them and give them a no thanks. Its an acknowledgement and they are okay with it.
If they come to the door and I have the time, I listen as far as is needed and then just say no. Again they are usually okay that they have had their say and move on.
i just let keith sort them out :giggle:
Forget the Moderators, what we need on SH today is Mediators.. biggrin
Quote by freckledbird
A surefire way to make sure you're not bothered by the people carrying out surveys in the streets and shopping centres is to say when accosted by them that you work for a marketing firm yourself. It always works for me anyway, they instantly move on to the next person. They don't want to interview people who work in marketing or advertising.
Mike.

I used to be in the Royal Naval Reserve and we had to sign the Official Secrets Act. If I remember correctly, those who sign that aren't allowed to become involved in research or marketing polls, so just tell them you're in HM Forces and can't help them.
So if you did tell them...would you have to kill them afterwards?? lol
Quote by foxylady 123
he gets on my tits because you can hear him shouting for miles im sorry but someone getting on your tits doesnt mean you dont respect them and what they do alot of people get on my tits like my mum sometimes doesnt mean i dont respect her

Perhaps if he has to shout to increase his sales and aford his rehabilitation into society its a small price for you to pay having to listen to him?
Would you rather he sat on his ass all day wainting for the benefit fairy to arrive?
Have you everr thought he might manage to get on to someone elses computer and see your remarks and he would feel, when all hes trying to do is beter himself?
so what if he got onto someones computer? personally i couldnt give a flying make out they have no choice they are homeless, everyone has a choice!!!!!!! and to be quite thruthfulli couldnt give a fuck if he sat on his arse waiting for the benefit fairy to arrive im sure him being on benefit's isnt going to effect the state of the union much!!!. plus he's doing the same thing!! he's still scrounging off people, however you look at!!!!!.
im not a heartless bitch u know u just over reacting!!! and being out of order!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you baliffs, i love it when people come on here and show their true colours.
Maybe one day when your down and need help you will remember what you have said above.(doubt it though!!)
As foir scrounging, i think if you had ever read the issue you would know that is not so but maybe it gooes over your head??
For me , one of the most moving posts that i have ever read on here is from Riff Raff and was posted just before Christmas last year on a thread i started on the Big Issue. i have copied and pasted it below because it is such a wonderful post and i doubt anyone with a heart can read it and the say they selling the Big Issue is scrounging.
Riff Raff Wrote
For a lot of people it is not a matter of choice.
I was homeless for the best part of ten years. It most certainly was not a lifestyle choice.
For only a relatively short period of that time was I actually street homeless i.e. living in doorways in Charing Cross in sub-zero temperatures.
Most of the time was spent squatting in derelict buildings, no water, no heat, no light, no furniture, etc etc
And there is the other sort of homelessness that I have experienced but which doesn't grab the headlines............sharing dormitories in overcrowded hostels run by exploitative landlords as so accurately described above by Neilinleeds. If Dickens were about today, etc.
People find themselves homeless for all manner of reasons...........abusive families, relationship breakdown, armed forces cutbacks, alcoholism, addiction, physical and mental problems, etc.
Similarly, homeless people come from diverse backgrounds.
I loathe the uninformed generalisations that are applied to the homeless.
I detest the lazy stereotyping of homeless people.
I equally abhor simplistic analysis and proposed solutions.
Try getting a job when you have no fixed abode.
Try holding on to documents that might help you get a job when you have nowhere safe to keep them.
Try keeping your body clean or your clothes laundered when you are living in a doorway.
Try to exude confidence and self-esteem in a job application or at an interview when you know you've just come from an abandoned, filthy, rat-infested building.
Before people propose their facile remedies they might like to find out what it really is like to live in grinding poverty without a roof over thier head. And I don't mean these publicity stunts that are favoured by MPs where they spend a week in a hostel. They still have well-shod feet and fine threads on their backs. They don't carry out their little social experiments long enough for holes to appear in their shoes. And they have the knowledge that their adventure will only last for seven days. I doubt if they'd be so bouyant if they had to endure those conditions day after day, month after month with no end in sight. That is spirit-crushing. Try "a few common sense rules...washing " when you are subsisting at that that level of despair, Mr I-had-to-work-bluddy-hard-to-get-where-I am-today.
There is no doubt that many BI sellers have substance misuse problems.
Just as many do not. So what. There are many actors and musicians who openly flaunt their drug-using. Am I to boycott their films and records ? But for the libel laws I would name several major retail brands that are headed by people with cocaine problems. Am I to eschew these products also?
I did not get out of my longterm homelessness predicament because I "took reponsibility for myself" or "obeyed a few commonsense rules."
I was fortunate enough to get help at a time and in circumstances where I was able to accept it. The context was important. Without going into detail, there were many times when I would not have been able to accept help even it was there. Alas, for many people the help is never available.
I am most grateful for the help I got.
It was a modest start and the timing was crucial.
I was offered a place at a half-way house from the street to what would eventually become a bedsit tenancy. Neither the half-way nor the bedsit could be described as palaces. From this base I got a place in college. And I decided to give back to society by being of use to those who were still living in circumstances like those I had recently left. That was seventeen years ago. I customised my degree to equip myself for working with the homeless and the addicted. And I'm bloody good at my job. Not so much because of my academic qualifications (though they are excellent too) but because of my experience.
Another way that i try to serve people who find themselves in situations similar to thos e that I came from is by challenging the ignorance and prejudice that many people show when discussing this issue. That's why I've taken more time in my contribution to this thread than I possibly have done for any other SH topic to date.
There is not a day goes by that I do not recall exactly where I came from.
And feel grateful for what I've got today. I am not a rich man in material trerms. I've got a modest little home now, a few possessions, nice wheels, etc. And that's about it materially. No big deal. What matters far more is the dignity that I've now got that was a million miles away and seemingly unattainable while I was homeless. That is priceless.
And I fight hard to maintain that self-respect. It's a precious and fragile commodidity for someone with my experience. There were plenty of people who tried to erode it a score or more years ago with their judgemental attitudes.
I have no more time for these people now than I had then.
I would rather spend time chatting with a BI vendor than hobnobbing with the "get a job and and get your together" crew.
And I do.
Don't be so hasty to judge people until you have walked at least a mile in their shoes.
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true colours????? you dont even know me and if you ask people u will find im a pleasent person and i do have a heart and i am very caring this has all started because of what i siad you jumped the gun and took it personally and to heart. I have spent many years caring for my family who have huntingtons and i feel it unfair that you judge me form one comment. A the end of the day its your promblem not mine
i think we should agree to disagree
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A surefire way to make sure you're not bothered by the people carrying out surveys in the streets and shopping centres is to say when accosted by them that you work for a marketing firm yourself. It always works for me anyway, they instantly move on to the next person. They don't want to interview people who work in marketing or advertising.
Mike.

I used to be in the Royal Naval Reserve and we had to sign the Official Secrets Act. If I remember correctly, those who sign that aren't allowed to become involved in research or marketing polls, so just tell them you're in HM Forces and can't help them.
So if you did tell them...would you have to kill them afterwards?? lol
Depends really. If they're shaggable, maybe I'd just shag them, torture them and then let them loose. :lol:
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Quote by JudyTV
Foxy,
Do you want to go back and edit your last post and get who said what in the right order of quotes?...Thats a right birds nest you have there. It looks like I said things I didn't say. But then you have implied that in a previous post about Cross Dressers getting on peoples tits.
You may well consider me a CD,, in truth I'm a TV totally different animal as CDs TVs and TSs are all different. Not an important issue to most people and certainly not life changing to me. However I refer you to definitions on the left hand side of this web site it may be of help to you.
Judy

Judy i must say i think you have just proved my point. Isnt it easy to get irate when an issue affects you!!
I probably dont care if your a TV CD or even a DVD but i wouldnt intetionally set out to offend you!! So if i have it was completely unnitentionally. However i would also defend your right to be and do whatever you like to the hilt
I guess with your pastimes you bound to have some problems with society but you dont have the copyright on that. The guy selling the big issue will have far more basic problems and if you dont give a fuck about him, imho, you should, then society might at last become more open and understanding of all. Isnt that what you want?
nite nite
xxxx
Personally, I sometimes enjoy being stopped by these people on the streets/supemarkets. At the end of the day, they are being employed by someone and if they are being out of order, just ask them for details of their supervisor - that ought to stop them instantly.
Mind you, I do rely on the other half to filter some of these people. They just take one look at his big hairy holy ginger self and back off.
As for the Big Issue individuals, I like them. I buy the Big Issue when I have the chance and find it quite enjoyable to chat to them when I have the time. During Christmas period (when chocolates are 3 for 2), I sometimes give the free box to one of them, and perhaps a cup of coffee. It doesn't cost much, I could have easily blown the same amount buying some stupid glossy magazine which tells me that I need to buy x,y and z in order to be happy.
Now, Avon ladies... there are of a different breed....
momf
i for one will vouch for you being (iwas going to write here - a big old softy - but you might take that the wrong way) kind and generous , at least with your understanding and patience.
maia
if only everyone was like you we wouldnt have this thread getting so hot and conticious,
It really does worry me when people have so little thought and humanity for each others, where will our society end up? now onder we have som any social problems. dunno :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: