is it time

14 Dec 2007

After spending time on news 24
And filling all my gunf on to have my say on the site for the futile waste of the british forces's in iraq..
I had a statement come up as a your views may not be aired if it is not part of the goverment beliefs or can we keep our licence for a few more years
less of my rant, as it was about squaddies getting dismissed by the amount of drugs they are all taking.
Now my question is why are we puting all these guys and girls lives at risk if they feel the need to take these drugs. To get out of the services?
As they feel that it is the only way as the popey fields of afgahnistan, has had the best harvest since the us/uk took control....
Would love to get a take on the forces side of the whole isssue and, all the same old answers rolleyes

Mr sweet 22

14 Dec 2007

Quote by Sweet22couple
After spending time on news 24
And filling all my gunf on to have my say on the site for the futile waste of the british forces's in iraq..
I had a statement come up as a your views may not be aired if it is not part of the goverment beliefs or can we keep our licence for a few more years
less of my rant, as it was about squaddies getting dismissed by the amount of drugs they are all taking.
Now my question is why are we puting all these guys and girls lives at risk if they feel the need to take these drugs. To get out of the services?
As they feel that it is the only way as the popey fields of afgahnistan, has had the best harvest since the us/uk took control....
Would love to get a take on the forces side of the whole isssue and, all the same old answers
Mr sweet 22

Who says they're taking drugs to get out? People take drugs if they aren't in the forces too. There's nothing to say that those squaddies wouldn't have taken drugs anyway even if they weren't squaddies. They know the risks when they sign up.

14 Dec 2007

I don't understand? do you mean your thread was not allowed because of the content? if so I think it's probably because it is such a controversial subject and could potentially get quite heated up in here... other than that if it's about the drugs, drugs shouldn't be allowed in the forces under any circumstances.

14 Dec 2007

A spokesperson on the news this morning says that only 0.7% of the armed forces have been found using illegal drugs whereas in civvy street it's 7% of joe public ... confused

Whatever the percentage it's high time it was legalised so that it could be monitored, controlled, treated, taxed, etc ... and removed from exploitation by criminals ... like tobacco and alcohol.

14 Dec 2007

Quote by de_sade

Whatever the percentage (of drug use) it's high time it was legalised so that it could be monitored, controlled, treated, taxed, etc ... and removed from exploitation by criminals ... like tobacco and alcohol.

Are you sure? Did you not see the last budget or what?
That was criminal and we are all still being exploited.
Why give the government something else they can milk us dry with..?
You're very anti-government at the minute aren't you? I can tell wink

... don't blame you mind - I'm studying Social Policy and I've had my eyes opened I can tell you!

14 Dec 2007

Quote by Sweet22couple
less of my rant, as it was about squaddies getting dismissed by the amount of drugs they are all taking.

Its not every soldier taking drugs.

Quote by Sweet22couple
Now my question is why are we puting all these guys and girls lives at risk if they feel the need to take these drugs. To get out of the services?
Mr sweet 22

Who says there taking drugs to get out of the services? Like lots of young people they go out let there hair down (what hair they have) & indulge in a so called recreational substance just like hundreds of youngsters every weekend .
Years ago when I served there was drug taking its always been there in those days it was more smoking dope.

14 Dec 2007

The question is would you want a man/woman high on drugs to be in charge of a loaded gun, tank, or missile system..

14 Dec 2007

Quote by AtomCom2001
The question is would you want a man/woman high on drugs to be in charge of a loaded gun, tank, or missile system..

No you would'nt thats why they are kicked out of the services.

14 Dec 2007

guns dont kill people..... people do

14 Dec 2007

Quote by X_fanny_x
guns dont kill people..... people do

No its the bullets.. lol

14 Dec 2007

When I was in, taking drugs was one way off getting out of the army. In those days it was a dishounrable discharge which is not a good thing to have on your record.

14 Dec 2007

Several squaddies of my acquaintance have received varying punishments for drug offences. They were neither front line troops, nor on duty at the time. Why should someone be sacked from thir job for smoking cannabis on leave two weeks previously?
Believe me, turning up drunk for duty is a far worse problem and a drinking culture is somewhat encouraged by the military.

14 Dec 2007

i think they whole bit about them doing it to get out of the forces was mentioned as it was what was said on the news. the ex service men had said that was why they took it/were caught with it, so they could get out. saved them having to pay or serve 12 months notice.
xx fem xx

14 Dec 2007

So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

14 Dec 2007

dunno,
maybe they thought it was a good carear with a good wage and wanted to be a part of a united team?
maybe they discovered the shitty living conditions the actual shit pay considering its 24/7 job and you do actually have to risk your life?
any job in civey st you tok and it turned ot it wasnt what you thought,youd hand in ya notice and be done with it, not so easy in the forces.
no im not in or ever been in the forces just my musings
xx fem xx

14 Dec 2007

Quote by fem_4_taboo
dunno,
maybe they thought it was a good carear with a good wage and wanted to be a part of a united team?
maybe they discovered the shitty living conditions the actual shit pay considering its 24/7 job and you do actually have to risk your life?
any job in civey st you tok and it turned ot it wasnt what you thought,youd hand in ya notice and be done with it, not so easy in the forces.
no im not in or ever been in the forces just my musings
xx fem xx

I have never been in the armed forces myself but I can imagine what it must be like... People must know what it is like before they join?
The people that want to leave because they do not want to go into battle.. Well that is what the armed forces are for !!!

14 Dec 2007

Quote by AtomCom2001
So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

i cant even begin to imagine what they see or go through and imo a job many could not do
if they are so desperate to leave maybewhat they joined for wasnt happening.. not explaining this very well am i
hypothetically take joe bloggs wanting to join the army to protect his country....... he joins and goes to war.... but during said war many thousands of innocent people get killed.... joe bloggs thinks to himself i did not join army to kill innocent people...... joe bloggs then wants to leave at any cost.

14 Dec 2007

Quote by X_fanny_x
So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

i cant even begin to imagine what they see or go through and imo a job many could not do
if they are so desperate to leave maybewhat they joined for wasnt happening.. not explaining this very well am i
hypothetically take joe bloggs wanting to join the army to protect his country....... he joins and goes to war.... but during said war many thousands of innocent people get killed.... joe bloggs thinks to himself i did not join army to kill innocent people...... joe bloggs then wants to leave at any cost.
War always, has always and will always have innocent people involved.... That is a known fact.

14 Dec 2007

Quote by AtomCom2001
So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

i cant even begin to imagine what they see or go through and imo a job many could not do
if they are so desperate to leave maybewhat they joined for wasnt happening.. not explaining this very well am i
hypothetically take joe bloggs wanting to join the army to protect his country....... he joins and goes to war.... but during said war many thousands of innocent people get killed.... joe bloggs thinks to himself i did not join army to kill innocent people...... joe bloggs then wants to leave at any cost.
War always, has always and will always have innocent people involved.... That is a known fact.
yes you are right but unless we have been there none of us can possibly imagine the things they see. ive seen the army change people to beyond recognition personally but i still come no where near to understanding what they must go through

14 Dec 2007

Quote by X_fanny_x
So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

i cant even begin to imagine what they see or go through and imo a job many could not do
if they are so desperate to leave maybewhat they joined for wasnt happening.. not explaining this very well am i
hypothetically take joe bloggs wanting to join the army to protect his country....... he joins and goes to war.... but during said war many thousands of innocent people get killed.... joe bloggs thinks to himself i did not join army to kill innocent people...... joe bloggs then wants to leave at any cost.
I think it may be the amount of time between tours of duty from 1 hotspot to another they might be serving in 1 place come back have a period of leave but once they have had that its time to do courses & cadres to get new skills , exercises & train for the next active tour .
The trouble is we have cut our armed forces down & put more pressure on them with more & more active tours of duty .

14 Dec 2007

Quote by sword-stileto
So if people are wanting to leave so badly, why are they joining in the first place?

i cant even begin to imagine what they see or go through and imo a job many could not do
if they are so desperate to leave maybewhat they joined for wasnt happening.. not explaining this very well am i
hypothetically take joe bloggs wanting to join the army to protect his country....... he joins and goes to war.... but during said war many thousands of innocent people get killed.... joe bloggs thinks to himself i did not join army to kill innocent people...... joe bloggs then wants to leave at any cost.
I think it may be the amount of time between tours of duty from 1 hotspot to another they might be serving in 1 place come back have a period of leave but once they have had that its time to do courses & cadres to get new skills , exercises & train for the next active tour .
The trouble is we have cut our armed forces down & put more pressure on them with more & more active tours of duty .
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