Have to say we love the leathers looks and it be great for that extra layer of skin, but they take way to long to take off!! lol
Easy, constructive criticism and liking us to a used car in the same sentence your just to kind haha. After your comments about our advert and mentioning the negative elements with we can see what you mean.
Our to do list tonight now consists of trawling adverts in order to steal steal steal!
x
so how's about:
2 careful drivers seeking a not so old banger, for regular run arounds, must be able to go the distance, be econmonical, twin airbags a must, safety always.
Must apologies, we realised we could have all 3 chat servers open at once, had we seen you say hello then we defo would have said hello back!
We have realised we are a single chatroom kinda couple, we can't cope otherwise lol.
sorry
xx
Hmm, I've read this thread carefully several times and I've chosen my response carefully, not because of what happened on the first two pages, but what has happened since.
Firstly, welcome Fantasyfull! I hope you are starting to get what you wanted from the site.
However I can't let pass the criticism aimed at some posters on here, originally in response to the original post, by others who have accused them of generally being nasty and vile towards a new member.
The advice from the members who posted later on the thread, and were lauded by Fantsasyfull as being friendly and helpful, is actually no different to the advice given at the start of this thread and yet it is deemed praiseworthy, why?
The difference is those who posted later on ignored the comments regarding this site and in particular the membership, who, it was implicitly stated, were generally ill-mannered because they don't reply to messages. (Our advert is the same, we are the same, and yet on this site we get no response, why is that when on other sites we get plenty? What is the answer? The only possible answer is that it's our fault because we are, in varying degrees, ill-mannered, selfish miscreants obviously...) When people took issue against this (rightly or wrongly, but, as part of that community, they may well have felt aggrieved at being implicitly labelled as someone who is ill-mannered and thoughtless) the OP immediately became defensive, accusing people of not answering their initial question (which they had tried to) and stating the advice given was useless and no good to them for a variety of reasons that the people responding would not have known about at the time. Most bafflingly of all was the claim that the initial advice given was somehow highly critical of them when in actual fact, it wasn't. It merely pointed out a few facts, offered advice and highlighted the experiences of other members of the site, which one would assume was the response the OP wanted.
I can see why people got irked at this rejection of advice and accusation of being hostile and while I think some of the following comments, particularly on the second page, were a little harsh, I find it very difficult to condemn long-standing members of the site for their responses, whilst proclaiming the original poster the "poor victim" of the SH forum bullies.
Incidentally, I totally agree with many of Mr Powers comments, if his post was the worst this couple have ever received then they are in a very fortunate position. For him to be now hung out to dry by many esteemed members of the SH forum, who are too afraid to name him, quite frankly, stinks. He offered advice, friendly initially and when he was rebuffed several times and accused of being less than nice, he was more forthright and honest to the point of being brutal in his assessment of their advert. However only you can judge whether he did that to "get one back" at Fantasyfull, or whether he did it to let them know to get what they wanted, they needed to stand out more from the crowd, which is pretty much what they wanted from the OP. Many of the points he made were absolutely bang on the money. He may not have made them in the flowery, saccharin sweet, cup-cake of desire way many others have since, but they are just as accurate. And for that he is judged an "arse"?
No, I'm sorry. Not fair. Not fair at all. Whether Fantasyfull meant it or not, this thread started off less about them accepting advice from long-standing members, and started more in a vein of being a thread to criticise the membership of SH or to basically state that the SH membership was in some way, inferior to the membership of other sites the poster used. I fully contend that Fantasyfull may not have meant this, but that is how their OP and responses that followed turned the thread that way. If we are seeking to apportion any blame, then it goes two ways in my view. Yes some of the responses were a little brusque, but as many have pointed out. It is easy to understand why, when part of the community that they are part of is slated and misrepresented and the OP refuses to see your advice as anything other than a criticism of them. If you didn't want the advice, then why ask for it in the first place?
I really hope Fantasyfull get what they want from the site and realise that the membership here is not as "bad" as on other sites. It is a good place and I'm sure the more you post and chat the more you will realise this. The advice given by almost everyone is good advice in helping you achieve your aim and the more you do on here, the more you will become "known" and I think you will find it much easier to get what you want from the site. I really hope you don't see what I have written as another criticism of you for reasons I will explain below.
I hope sanity will prevail and that people will realise that this may well have just been a case of misunderstanding, nothing more, and that to hang someone out to dry for it, is far more worthy of scorn than the original "sin" committed. Especially when the person was, I believe, originally acting in good faith and trying to help a new member.
Resonance,
Thank you for your comments and we haven't taken them as criticism, as you has mentioned we must have been very fortunate not to have recieved bad comments (actually we must have be very lucky from all we have heard!!)
We are not ones to hold any grudges, we have actually re done our profile and ad (hopefully not a used car ad any more and maybe now (fingers crossed) just a little bit special lol) following the advice, constructive direction and feedback from SH members both on here and via pm.
We don't want to get barred we have only just started, the last thing we intended as "newbies" in the forums was to afford criticism to any member of SH!
Please can we all be friends now pretty please??? (hope we're not known as "the snappy trolls").
Mr Powers - are we "groooooovy baby" ???
xx
Out on a moderating limb here, but if I were Presdident (and why not!) then Resonance, Fantasyfull and Mr-Powers I'd have you all round for a virtual beer in my virtual rose garden!
What I'm saying is, I'm going to lock this now as I think it's all come to a very diplomatic end.
Peace and love y'all...
Nola :rose:
p.s. I think you're all brill!