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Is playing away the ultimate sin ?

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Ahh yes , the ever incongruous Hall Pass. For My Wife and I playing away ( her with Girls , me with Couples ) has been what has helped us both through feast and famine in a very long time together.
We are both by nature natural flirts and enjoy the pleasure of flirting with the another person.
Its worked for us and has sustained us and enabled us to make new and close friends. The rule has always been she doesnt want guys because girls on the side really are what turns her on. I dont want single girls unless they are looking to become close friends and lovers with us in the long term. Playing with couples is easier since im providing the added extra desired and theres no expectation to form new friendships ( most of the times ).
Id love to be able to pull out a signed stamped pass from my partner that shows we are talking and not hurting each other but really how would anyone know its real unless they got to know me and my partner.
That being said I have had some wonderful friends and experiences in the last 17 years so it does work and is possible. and now I am going to bed... ish
it might not be the ultimate sin...and i cant sum it up more other than by saying
cheating is not cool
to some it can be the ultimate betrayal and cause untold heart break.
it isnt a thing that id want to get caught up in either although im quite into the idea of the other half knowing about my involvement.... they can watch and join in too!!
I think murder is a bigger sin! confused :? :?
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I think murder is a bigger sin! confused :? :?

agreed, and sometimes one can lead to the other ....
i wouldn't meet someone who was playing away for the simple reason i wouldn't like it if my husband was having sex behind my back so i'm not willing to do it to someone else, treat people how you want to be treated yourself
its very simple for me.
If im Seeing someone then i have feelings for that person and 'playing away' is something i just wouldnt do.
I know the hate a person feels and its not nice.
If two people are attached and swing together as a couple then fine as long as it is just that.
i'm not seeing anyone at the moment but if i was to i'd tell her about my profile here.
And if she asked me not to come here whilst seeing her then me old fashioned but your partners happiness and trust is most important.
This is one of those questions that will never come to a conclusive answer because all things are different to all people.
However, IMHO, two of the foundational values of the swinging lifestyle are openess and honesty. If you don't embrace that then you're not a swinger. End of.
And to prove the point: our neighbour was not swinging - he was cheating on his wife. When she eventually found out it broke her heart and now she'll probably never trust another man again.
Not the 'ultimate sin' no as nola said but a ba*tard of a one at the least. Surely the idea that honesty between a couple is paramount good or bad. Hey, some even get into swinging by being honest, and c'mon that takes some honesty dont you think?
I can forgive almost anything but I think an affair would destroy us.
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And, REALLY is honesty the holy grail that we are all searching for ???

My answer is ...yes honesty is the holy grail end of.
Tell me Flower, in all honesty how would you feel if you had a tiny inclination that Mrs Flower was playing away and deceiving you?
For me I'd be gutted, humiliated that someone was doing that knowing I was trusting them. I'd be upset, angry and every bit of my being would find it hard to retrust that person...
so in answer to your question, my PERSONAL belief is honesty is the best policy otherwise get out of the relationship you are in, you are hurting people.
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So there may be loads of reasons for people to be "getting a bit on the side" and maybe we should think of the other persons point of view before condemning them out of hand.

:thumbup: totally agree.
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So there may be loads of reasons for people to be "getting a bit on the side" and maybe we should think of the other persons point of view before condemning them out of hand.

:thumbup: totally agree.
I agree 100%, I know of someone who is doing something like this and can totally understand their reasons.
For the record Flower, I wasn't condemning you I was just wondering your view on the subject from your own relationship. I could never/would never condemn anyone for doing what they want to do, anything I post is my opinion based on my personal beliefs - which of course everyone has a right to believe in smile
If my partner was having an affair and I never, ever found out, then I would be none the wiser. Given this the subject would then not be debateable. However, if on the otherhand my partner and I discussed the possibilities and one of us, or both decided that we could have sex outside of our relationship but keep it from the other person, I feel in that scenarion the event is not totally without knowledge or acceptance that it might happen. Does that make sense?
i detest the whole idea of someone on here cheating on there partner and thers no way we'd play knowingly of this