I've noticed that some people seem to be cashing in on the swinging scene... We belong to a few swingers sites and have noticed some people organising private parties,generally in their own homes and they appear to be charging an entrance fee,to cover costs...so they if we were to hold our own party in our own home,we would never think of charging,well you wouldn't if it was a vanilla party so why should a swinging party be any different...this seems to be a worrying new trend of profiting off a particular lifestyle.
i have never seen anyone charging for a private house party and i wouldnt go to one if i was expected to pay the only times i have seen or heard of people charging is for a munch and even then its only for out of pocket expences i.e room hire dj buffet munch badges and printing costs etc. but normaly these are kept to as minimum a cost as possible. i dont think the aup allows for people to charge for other events but i could be wrong so my suggestion is to report someone for wanting to charge for a private function in their own home
And people charge for dogging, people charge single men extra in clubs, people charge for parties, it isn't a new thing sadly.
We got asked to a party in the Oxford area and told that we as a couple could go free as long as the fem was a 'player' and all drinks provided free and that single guys were going to be charged £75!!! a throw! that was a very short conversation let me tell you.
Thats one of only three times that cash has been mentioned though in the three years we'vw been swinging, other than nominal charges for socials etc.
I think the whole site is becomming more and more "commercialised" which is sad... but I am not sure whether people have gone out to find loopholes in the rules..
for example, the whole "socials in clubs" pheonoma that has sprung up..... could be considered to be fairly blantant promotions for clubs to get around paying the site....
I now know of at least 4 clubs who are now advertising nights that people from sh have organised on there own sites as party nights.... hey, again gets round the adveritising rules I suppose.....
I am not saying for people not to organise stuff... but at least be honest about it when advertising it and not shielding it in other language "people were saying that socials were socials" which is rubbish when you consider the derby ones compared to the chams ones (I only used those two as one is purly social...the other takes place in a club)
thats why i did ask for the socials in clubs to be called "club meets" rather than "socials".... at least it means people are far more aware of what they are signing up for.... and the intent of it being a commercial event
So a social is to socialise, what do we do at a munch? :twisted:
I'm so confused by the whole social/munch thing and then as Fabio says, we have the meets in clubs thrown into the mix too...
I still don't know the difference between a Social and a Munch other than at one Non SH members may attend, I think. Don't quote me on that.
As for charging for house meets. I am sorry but to me, if you are inviting people into your house for naughty purposes and charging them, then you are into the realm of prostitution. Sex for money is sex for money, however you want to dress it up and regardless of the gender and number of people playing.
The one reconciling factor of swinging was that it was free for all (within reason). Once you start charging, I am uncomfortable with it. I do not mind one bit paying for the hire of a room or a DJ for a Munch or Social, to me that is eminently fair. But to expect people to cough up simply because the promise of sex is on offer to those who do is a dangerous path I feel.
And do they declare it to the taxman? We should be informed...
Think closed shop for a Munch Res- a venue which on that night caters only to members. They can discuss Felching and only have to worry about being overheard by bemused bar staff.
A social could be a bunch of reprobates trying not to be overheard talking Felching in a corner of Weatherspoons on a Saturday night.
or
something like a camping social- a bunch of reprobates singing songs about Felching round a firepit in a field.
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:karaoke: you're more than a felcher in my little black book...:karaoke:
its very distasteful.
ther was a couple on here who used the chat room and did meet other swingers, seemed genuine at first then once they seemed establised started hosting parties but charging,this went into a full buissness, but were never upfront at first, had people talking about the parties,and guys would want to go, but told not to let site know they were charging.
some guys admitted they were paying, but said it was ok they were going to get to fuck *****.
then they buddied up with another couple and would tease guys on cam,then say hey were going to such and such party, the guys would pay £45 to get in as they thought they were on to a promice, but it was these couples who were raking in the cash, it was realy their buissness.
it soured the southwest scene,
they were and basically and still are prostitutes.
they still advertise on here, and get their mates to slate other clubs in the reviews.
its happening all over the net, making out house parties, but its money con.
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Its nowt new, we all know what sells. We date way back to a site many moons ago called Dirty Davids . We knew the fellas personally and he started the site originally to meet swinging girls and get laid, but as it grew popular he eventually sold out as has been the case with quite a large number of the sites started by amateurs and the parties they host. We had so much trouble at one point because we used to post pictures just to share with friends and fellow swingers and then some git would close the site and ask people for money to see them, without even asking. We even started our own personal site as a payback, with the intention of linking up with similar folk on the net. Then we found that real genuinely amateur exhibitionists are so rare that we couldnt be arsed.
When Mammon raises his head he is hard to resist, and yet he always fucks things up - I suppose thats why we reacted so dramatically at first when the new owners took over here. However we have been pleasantly surprised, and although they have obviously used some aspects of it to generate traffic and money they have largely been fair and not greedy and very importantly they have always strictly policed the rules on professional 'services' being advertised which is always the beginning of the end for an amateur site. On the whole though everything is subject to greedy folk, I reckon we are quite lucky here
so has anyone been invited to a house party...and been asked to pay up on the door?
first off we dont charge when we have a party...
to the point in question...as long as its made clear that charges are being made whether it be to cover costs or make a few quid or a fucking fortune i couldnt give a hoot... you dont have to attend.