Is there any need for it ?

15 Aug 2005

the point being that the first time i went into the pub I went in and had a look at the surroundings... which i am more and more sure that a lot of people don't do anymore... jump in with both feet and don't get a feel for the place.....like i have said before... first impressions count, I have never seen a nice and polite "hello i am new" post flamed!!!
I took my time and got accepted into the pub just like I took my time and got accepted here...and a lot of people don't want to do that, then complain when whatever they wanted to do doesn't come off....
I am still a great believer in that you get out of this place what you put in... i just find more and more people can't be bothered with the effort and expect it on a plate

15 Aug 2005

Quote by Dino.
And a small minority who as far as i can see,, trawl the forums for no other reason than to flame, be-little, humiliate, ridicule and rip the piss out of other posters.
IMHO.!

i hate to have to quote myself but my point was not to have a go at the light hearted piss taking type banter that goes on but more of what i put in my first post (see above), on a very regular basis.
Big difference me thinks ., but hey, if you guys think this is acceptable behaviour and is your idea of fun then all i can do is disagree, voice my feelings and carry on hoping your fun isnt spoilt too much by winging bleeders like me wink

15 Aug 2005

Quote by treasurechest
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

You couldn't be more wrong!......

15 Aug 2005

Quote by treasurechest
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

The socials arepurely voluntary - the point I was making is if you go to a social event you will make friends, but that does not mean to say that just staying on the forums you won't make friends, that is how you get recognised to go to a social. I am sorry you feel this way and have a negative view of it - I only hope you spend more time here, and see what it is really like.

15 Aug 2005

Quote by da69ve
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

You couldn't be more wrong!......
so if your a fit chick with a great avatar pic its all ok . i wonder if a single female posting a short who wants to fuck me now type post with out joining in on the "banter" and "getting to know people first" would get this response.
unlikely i guess a rather full private message inbox all with very nice flattering comments .

15 Aug 2005

Quote by guy4fun
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

You couldn't be more wrong!......
so if your a fit chick with a great avatar pic its all ok . i wonder if a single female posting a short who wants to fuck me now type post with out joining in on the "banter" and "getting to know people first" would get this response.
unlikely i guess a rather full private message inbox all with very nice flattering comments .
What has your comment got to do with the social events! dunno

15 Aug 2005

I have been reading this and so far have restrained from posting anything but what I cant understand is if Guy4fun and Treasurechest (sorry just to name you two, but you seem to be the most active posters) are so unhappy with the site, why are they still here? Its not meant as a 'sod off' post, but more of a genuine question?
If you went to a club or pub and didnt like the other people in there, you would leave immediately and find another place to have a drink. If this site is as bad as you are both saying, or should I say, a number of the 'regular'posters are as bad as you say, why are you still here, why not find another site to use?
Like I said, hope you take this in the spirit it is meant, and it is not meant to cause any offence, I am genuinly interested why you are still here.

15 Aug 2005

This topic recurrs on a regular basis (like a number of others) so must be one of the most debated subjects in the forum. dunno

:undecided:
How a person views the forum is entirely subjective and in my view says more about the person expressing their opinion than it does about the forum or, in a wider context, SH, which in my view remains healthy and vibrant precisely because there is such a wide range of opinion aired here.
Yeah, I get pissed off with some of it at times, and take a (relative) back seat for a while, but I can never keep away for long.
Oh, and for what it's worth (which is precisely zilch) I've never received any shit from anyone on this site. I never introduced myself just dipped a toe in the water and found it didn't hurt. It has matured me somewhat though I haven't been tamed yet! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

15 Aug 2005

Quote by guy4fun
if the ad bothers you , for a reason only you know , which it looks like it does and your are not interested in meeting up with the particular persons request just ignore it . quite simple really .

it doesn't bother me in the slightest as i never read them i only hunted for a ad to illustrate the point that was being made
Quite simple really

15 Aug 2005

Quote by guy4fun
so if your a fit chick with a great avatar pic its all ok . i wonder if a single female posting a short who wants to fuck me now type post with out joining in on the "banter" and "getting to know people first" would get this response.
unlikely i guess a rather full private message inbox all with very nice flattering comments .

yes you are probably correct they would get a response............from lots and lots and lots of single men which no doubt would include yourself although when the poster only asks for cock shots you can be probably be safe in the assumption that they are actually a man or some other thrillseeker with no intention in carrying out their advertised actions.
obviously there is the exeptions to the rule and they learn not to post such a message again due to the deluge of crap they have to wade through in the aftermath

15 Aug 2005

Blimey ! How did i miss all this going on????
As one of the piss-takers, or at least i hope to be considered a piss taker, i think it is one of the better things about this site.
People keep likening this forum to a pub, and a crowd of mates. Which it does seem to be, because half the time people are posting when they have had a couple of drinks, especially late at night.
Now if you were in the pub with your mates, and some brash gobshite walked in, who's never been seen before... introduced themselves to you and your "gang".. and said he had a big cock... what do you think the reaction would be? The absolute saving grace of The Cafe is that people DON'T get nasty or vicious with these people. On the whole it is quite tame piss taking... it would be worse IRL.
And to be brutally honest... i'd be surprised if anyone moaning about the piss taking of newbies could find more than half a dozen comments, from the last 6 months, where the piss taking wasn't justified and was nasty and vicious. 99.9% of the time it's mild, very mild ribbing...
So... that's my view. And if you take offence.... you're probably a great big girly.... with pig tails...

15 Aug 2005

A mild form of barracking takes place here as in all walks of society..... as long as it is taken in good part.... no-one is offended...
It almost seems to be a rite of passage that new members have to travel through... and when other members take the mickey out of you.... you know you're acccepted...
I do agree though, that all mickey taking should be in the 'friendly banter' style and not out and out complete piss taking....
equi-princess xxx

15 Aug 2005

Quote by treasurechest
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

So untrue! I've never been to a munch and I don't feel like an outsider. Admittedly, I don't have the rapport with the regulars in The Cafe like I do in the Dogging section because I don't have that much time to spend posting and like to read the threads in here. The downside of this is that I feel like I know regular members who post often (the Mods, Postie, DaveJ, Wishmaster, Vix, PoloLady, Venus, EagerSlut, Judy, Marms and loads more that I just recognise by avatar!)) much better than they know me.
But that's my fault, not theirs.....they all make me laugh, without even knowing it. Getting to know all of the regulars better requires time that I don't always have dunno

This is the first time I've seen your posts Treasurechest, but it feels like you have an awful lot to complain about for a month old member with 14 posts to their name.......you don't have to munch, but you do need to make some effort to talk to others. Hope it works out biggrin

15 Aug 2005

Quote by guy4fun
"Im looking to give a woman a good seeing tonight horny as fuck so come if your from south wales i want to meet now!!!! get in touch. Also willing to meet up with couples"
this is quote taken from a newbie first post which is quite typical naturally piss taking followed can you think why?

if the ad bothers you , for a reason only you know , which it looks like it does and your are not interested in meeting up with the particular persons request just ignore it . quite simple really. rolleyes

Mmmmmmmmmmmm! confused

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewpost/199264.html#199264

15 Aug 2005

Quote by Happy Cats
"Im looking to give a woman a good seeing tonight horny as fuck so come if your from south wales i want to meet now!!!! get in touch. Also willing to meet up with couples"
this is quote taken from a newbie first post which is quite typical naturally piss taking followed can you think why?

if the ad bothers you , for a reason only you know , which it looks like it does and your are not interested in meeting up with the particular persons request just ignore it . quite simple really. rolleyes

Mmmmmmmmmmmm! confused

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewpost/199264.html#199264
Hung by your own petard guy4fun !
Well spotted Happy Cats.... i actually shouted " get in there"" when i saw what the link was...

15 Aug 2005

Quote by equi-princess
A mild form of barracking takes place here as in all walks of society..... as long as it is taken in good part.... no-one is offended...
It almost seems to be a rite of passage that new members have to travel through... and when other members take the mickey out of you.... you know you're acccepted...
I do agree though, that all mickey taking should be in the 'friendly banter' style and not out and out complete piss taking....
equi-princess xxx

my point exactly wink

15 Aug 2005

hehe....
that's it just hehe
to happycats

15 Aug 2005

blimey im just glad ive still not read this post.........

15 Aug 2005

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewpost/512948.html#512948
what were you saying guy4fun i am confused were you just teasing me perhaps?

15 Aug 2005

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
@ Scooter and HC lol

:lol:
Jim, yes you were right with pronouns wink

15 Aug 2005

Quote by northwest-cpl
Surely the point is that the people having the piss ripped are very often not friends but people that the piss-takers have never spoken to before. I would be surprised if many of the piss-takers would do it IRL to a total stranger. I've seen you in the village Blue and you don't take the piss out of strangers but play within your own group. There is nothing wrong with mutual piss-taking, it's the one-sided thing that is not nice to view.
Sharing a joke on the forums is ok if you are doing it with people that want to be involved but why does it have to be a rite of passage for a newbie? Why is the ugliness and humiliation of some of the piss-taking not dealt out to more seasoned members? I see many parallels to a school playground rather than a local pub in the behaviour of some people on here.

I have read all the responses since this reply and I am going to repeat what others have said already, but I felt I needed to reply to northwest-cpl with a specific response.
When I'm in the Village, no of course I don't go up to total strangers and start taking the piss out of them. I'm far too polite for that wink

.. yes the piss taking is confined to my own group and to people that I know will respond in a positive, light hearted way. However, I WOULD take the piss out of a total stranger if they came over to the table I was sitting at with my friends and barged into the conversation with inappropriate comments, such as "Which one of you lovelies is going to help me empty my balls tonight....?" or some other crass and downright rude comment :shock: . I probably would tell them to fuck off, but if they persisted I would consider them a prime target for sarcasm... that is if Leprechaun as the Head of the Manchester Social Security Team hadn't picked them up by the bollocks and thrown them in the canal lol

.
Not many people would barge into someone's conversation in RL and make such crass comments and expect to get away with it.... yet, what astounds me is that people think it is OK to do exactly that online. Why? I just don't get it. Are these people as brash in RL or is it something about being behind a PC monitor that makes them look like utter arseholes who have the social skills of a limpet on steroids? The people (usually guys) that log on here and EXPECT people to shag them after a one-line shit post wind me up no end. Usually their posts just sink to 2nd page oblivion and no-one is any the wiser.... Some however stick around and either whinge about their lack of success, or they get shitty when people try to help. In my view, those are the people who DESERVE to have the piss ripped from them in the most painful way possible. They would get it in RL, so why not on here?

15 Aug 2005

Quote by treasurechest
I am geting the strong impression that if you dont go to thses socials your not wanted, shame because i have not intention of doing so, think i may be on the wrong site

Please let me reassure you that is not so. The regular munchgoers make up about one percent of the SH membership, so munches are definitely not the be all and end all. They get a lot of coverage because they are a shared experience that those who go to them want to talk about - I think that's only natural. But it doesn't mean that everyone else, i.e. the majority, is any less valued as members of this community.
Some of the most long-standing and well respected members of SH have never been to a munch. I think the founders themselves have only been to one, and I'd hardly call them "not wanted".
Admittedly, those of us who do like the munches do tend to yak on about them, and I can see how that could get tedious for those who aren't interested, but please, don't feel marginalised because I for one don't know of anyone who regards those who don't go as any less important than those who do.
Ice

15 Aug 2005

Quote by bluexxx

Surely the point is that the people having the piss ripped are very often not friends but people that the piss-takers have never spoken to before. I would be surprised if many of the piss-takers would do it IRL to a total stranger. I've seen you in the village Blue and you don't take the piss out of strangers but play within your own group. There is nothing wrong with mutual piss-taking, it's the one-sided thing that is not nice to view.
Sharing a joke on the forums is ok if you are doing it with people that want to be involved but why does it have to be a rite of passage for a newbie? Why is the ugliness and humiliation of some of the piss-taking not dealt out to more seasoned members? I see many parallels to a school playground rather than a local pub in the behaviour of some people on here.

I have read all the responses since this reply and I am going to repeat what others have said already, but I felt I needed to reply to northwest-cpl with a specific response.
When I'm in the Village, no of course I don't go up to total strangers and start taking the piss out of them. I'm far too polite for that wink

.. yes the piss taking is confined to my own group and to people that I know will respond in a positive, light hearted way. However, I WOULD take the piss out of a total stranger if they came over to the table I was sitting at with my friends and barged into the conversation with inappropriate comments, such as "Which one of you lovelies is going to help me empty my balls tonight....?" or some other crass and downright rude comment :shock: . I probably would tell them to fuck off, but if they persisted I would consider them a prime target for sarcasm... that is if Leprechaun as the Head of the Manchester Social Security Team hadn't picked them up by the bollocks and thrown them in the canal lol

.
Not many people would barge into someone's conversation in RL and make such crass comments and expect to get away with it.... yet, what astounds me is that people think it is OK to do exactly that online. Why? I just don't get it. Are these people as brash in RL or is it something about being behind a PC monitor that makes them look like utter arseholes who have the social skills of a limpet on steroids? The people (usually guys) that log on here and EXPECT people to shag them after a one-line shit post wind me up no end. Usually their posts just sink to 2nd page oblivion and no-one is any the wiser.... Some however stick around and either whinge about their lack of success, or they get shitty when people try to help. In my view, those are the people who DESERVE to have the piss ripped from them in the most painful way possible. They would get it in RL, so why not on here?
Bloody right Blue!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: kiss

:kiss: :kiss:

15 Aug 2005

Quote by Sgt Bilko

Surely the point is that the people having the piss ripped are very often not friends but people that the piss-takers have never spoken to before. I would be surprised if many of the piss-takers would do it IRL to a total stranger. I've seen you in the village Blue and you don't take the piss out of strangers but play within your own group. There is nothing wrong with mutual piss-taking, it's the one-sided thing that is not nice to view.
Sharing a joke on the forums is ok if you are doing it with people that want to be involved but why does it have to be a rite of passage for a newbie? Why is the ugliness and humiliation of some of the piss-taking not dealt out to more seasoned members? I see many parallels to a school playground rather than a local pub in the behaviour of some people on here.

I have read all the responses since this reply and I am going to repeat what others have said already, but I felt I needed to reply to northwest-cpl with a specific response.
When I'm in the Village, no of course I don't go up to total strangers and start taking the piss out of them. I'm far too polite for that wink

.. yes the piss taking is confined to my own group and to people that I know will respond in a positive, light hearted way. However, I WOULD take the piss out of a total stranger if they came over to the table I was sitting at with my friends and barged into the conversation with inappropriate comments, such as "Which one of you lovelies is going to help me empty my balls tonight....?" or some other crass and downright rude comment :shock: . I probably would tell them to fuck off, but if they persisted I would consider them a prime target for sarcasm... that is if Leprechaun as the Head of the Manchester Social Security Team hadn't picked them up by the bollocks and thrown them in the canal lol

.
Not many people would barge into someone's conversation in RL and make such crass comments and expect to get away with it.... yet, what astounds me is that people think it is OK to do exactly that online. Why? I just don't get it. Are these people as brash in RL or is it something about being behind a PC monitor that makes them look like utter arseholes who have the social skills of a limpet on steroids? The people (usually guys) that log on here and EXPECT people to shag them after a one-line shit post wind me up no end. Usually their posts just sink to 2nd page oblivion and no-one is any the wiser.... Some however stick around and either whinge about their lack of success, or they get shitty when people try to help. In my view, those are the people who DESERVE to have the piss ripped from them in the most painful way possible. They would get it in RL, so why not on here?
Bloody right Blue!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: kiss

:kiss: :kiss:
You're only saying that cos the other night when everyone ignored my serious posts on this thread that I got very upset and ended up jumping off the roof of SH Towers, only to be dragged from Swinging Hell kicking and screaming the day after :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

15 Aug 2005

Quote by bluexxx

Surely the point is that the people having the piss ripped are very often not friends but people that the piss-takers have never spoken to before. I would be surprised if many of the piss-takers would do it IRL to a total stranger. I've seen you in the village Blue and you don't take the piss out of strangers but play within your own group. There is nothing wrong with mutual piss-taking, it's the one-sided thing that is not nice to view.
Sharing a joke on the forums is ok if you are doing it with people that want to be involved but why does it have to be a rite of passage for a newbie? Why is the ugliness and humiliation of some of the piss-taking not dealt out to more seasoned members? I see many parallels to a school playground rather than a local pub in the behaviour of some people on here.

I have read all the responses since this reply and I am going to repeat what others have said already, but I felt I needed to reply to northwest-cpl with a specific response.
When I'm in the Village, no of course I don't go up to total strangers and start taking the piss out of them. I'm far too polite for that wink

.. yes the piss taking is confined to my own group and to people that I know will respond in a positive, light hearted way. However, I WOULD take the piss out of a total stranger if they came over to the table I was sitting at with my friends and barged into the conversation with inappropriate comments, such as "Which one of you lovelies is going to help me empty my balls tonight....?" or some other crass and downright rude comment :shock: . I probably would tell them to fuck off, but if they persisted I would consider them a prime target for sarcasm... that is if Leprechaun as the Head of the Manchester Social Security Team hadn't picked them up by the bollocks and thrown them in the canal lol

.
Not many people would barge into someone's conversation in RL and make such crass comments and expect to get away with it.... yet, what astounds me is that people think it is OK to do exactly that online. Why? I just don't get it. Are these people as brash in RL or is it something about being behind a PC monitor that makes them look like utter arseholes who have the social skills of a limpet on steroids? The people (usually guys) that log on here and EXPECT people to shag them after a one-line shit post wind me up no end. Usually their posts just sink to 2nd page oblivion and no-one is any the wiser.... Some however stick around and either whinge about their lack of success, or they get shitty when people try to help. In my view, those are the people who DESERVE to have the piss ripped from them in the most painful way possible. They would get it in RL, so why not on here?
Bloody right Blue!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: kiss

:kiss: :kiss:
You're only saying that cos the other night when everyone ignored my serious posts on this thread that I got very upset and ended up jumping off the roof of SH Towers, only to be dragged from Swinging Hell kicking and screaming the day after :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The stairs to the roof are over there!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :wink:

15 Aug 2005

looks like Sarge is ready to drag his couch up there again lol

:lol: :lol:

15 Aug 2005

Quote by bluexxx

Surely the point is that the people having the piss ripped are very often not friends but people that the piss-takers have never spoken to before. I would be surprised if many of the piss-takers would do it IRL to a total stranger. I've seen you in the village Blue and you don't take the piss out of strangers but play within your own group. There is nothing wrong with mutual piss-taking, it's the one-sided thing that is not nice to view.
Sharing a joke on the forums is ok if you are doing it with people that want to be involved but why does it have to be a rite of passage for a newbie? Why is the ugliness and humiliation of some of the piss-taking not dealt out to more seasoned members? I see many parallels to a school playground rather than a local pub in the behaviour of some people on here.

I have read all the responses since this reply and I am going to repeat what others have said already, but I felt I needed to reply to northwest-cpl with a specific response.
When I'm in the Village, no of course I don't go up to total strangers and start taking the piss out of them. I'm far too polite for that wink

.. yes the piss taking is confined to my own group and to people that I know will respond in a positive, light hearted way. However, I WOULD take the piss out of a total stranger if they came over to the table I was sitting at with my friends and barged into the conversation with inappropriate comments, such as "Which one of you lovelies is going to help me empty my balls tonight....?" or some other crass and downright rude comment :shock: . I probably would tell them to fuck off, but if they persisted I would consider them a prime target for sarcasm... that is if Leprechaun as the Head of the Manchester Social Security Team hadn't picked them up by the bollocks and thrown them in the canal lol

.
Not many people would barge into someone's conversation in RL and make such crass comments and expect to get away with it.... yet, what astounds me is that people think it is OK to do exactly that online. Why? I just don't get it. Are these people as brash in RL or is it something about being behind a PC monitor that makes them look like utter arseholes who have the social skills of a limpet on steroids? The people (usually guys) that log on here and EXPECT people to shag them after a one-line shit post wind me up no end. Usually their posts just sink to 2nd page oblivion and no-one is any the wiser.... Some however stick around and either whinge about their lack of success, or they get shitty when people try to help. In my view, those are the people who DESERVE to have the piss ripped from them in the most painful way possible. They would get it in RL, so why not on here?
Bloody right Blue!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: kiss

:kiss: :kiss:
You're only saying that cos the other night when everyone ignored my serious posts
Ooooooooooh! :shock: :shock: :shock:
That happens to me when I post seriously too! :huh:
:grin: :grin:

15 Aug 2005

NO!
I am NOT going to do any more bungee jumps :shock: lol

What I didn't tell you the other day is that dying and then being ressurected has granted me with eternal life.... I am to remain as young and beautiful :shock: as I am today - FOREVER......... I cannot die, I cannot age, I am here to STAY.........
............ while the self portrait in my attic changes to reflect all my vices and sins, I stay young and sexy in Swinging Heaven forever :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

15 Aug 2005

I'm sure that any pisstaking is meant in the nicest way possible.. I'm a newbie and as such. especially after reading through a few posts before i posted myself. was kind of expecting to have the piss taken for awhile, it's kinda natural to do so. One thing is for sure.. In my experince anyway. sex and all that surrounds it, is not a serious thing, the more you take things in your stride and have "fun" the more enjoyable anything is.. It's probably worth noting, that sargeant bilko(and others) certified me completely insane. and yet once he got where i was coming from, pulled me back from the abyss!! although I'm convinced the man has serious reservations.. who would blame him!!
If there is a point to this post, then i guess it's to say " lighten up" it's only a bit of fun and fuck it(or not as in the original posters point)
Any way I've yet to meet anyone from here,maybe i won't at all, but i quite enjoy the banter and welcome the pisstaking,and reckon in time all will be good.. given that i have internet access and a p.c by my bed!! I'l make do with a wank until that moment arrives!! which is what I'm going to do now!!
Buenos nochas hombres!! cool

15 Aug 2005

Blue, sorry I missed your ressurrection - I even found a cruiser for you that I thought would be perfect to help you avoid the "slings and arrows of outrageous fortune" in your new life.
But if you don't want this cruiser, then you won't get this cruiser....

Her name is HMS Belfast, she is a 6" Cruiser, but if you ask her nicely, she'll escort you!